New Avengers #34 *Spoilers*

[drwho]

This is gonna sound totally crazy, but to me this issue read a 100 times better than any other New Avengers issue Brian Bendis has done recently. It feels like the dialogue flows and I don't get the start stop feeling that I have been getting. Also wow even the art seems to flow better in this issue. I dont know what changed, but for the most part this issue is a 100% improvement. The thing has some action and the plots are actually moving somewhere. Probably, the only complaint I had was once again they are doing the stupid who can we trust oh lets do a magic spell and it will tell us. BAAH. Another thing that happened which still seems odd is Peter is a lot more happier in this issue than he has been recently. He actually comes off as Spider-Man and he shows he has more leadership abilities than Cage in this issue. There was a nice scene between Dr. Strange and Night Nurse. I also enjoyed the fact that Jessica calls out Cage in front of everyone for calling her a Skrull. I felt like the character interactions in this issue were a lot better than previous ones. Anyway, the Hood escapes from Wolverines grasp and Wolverine goes an warns the team about the Hood's plans to have Deathlok attack the Avenger's tower. After having more skrull discussions the team heads out for a change to actually do something. On the way to stop Deathlok they run into the Symbiotes attacking on the final page. I really like the fact that someone in the team mentioned they do things because they are heroes and it doesn't matter who they do the things for. In this case help Tony out. I hope this book stays like this every month. IF it did I would be a happy camper.

[unkiedev]

you beat me to it! Here is my just finished review/recap:

GREAT ISSUE! Starts out with Wolvie fighting with the Hood. The Hood can turn invisible, though Wolvie’s super-sniffer susses him out right quick! Little Red Hiding Hood tells his goon friend to “Meet up with him later” and then he shoots Wolvie in the X-Junk and turns into some sort of Evil Technological Demon…or appears to. The Hood jumps out a window, Wolvie heals and drinks, hoping his little pal, ya’ know, “Cyclops,” will grow back bigger.

At Dr. Strange's we learn that the good doctor is continuing his love affair with the Night Nurse from “Dr. Strange: The Oath” (Why he couldn’t continue his relationship with the even COOLER Dead Girl from the latest X-Statics mini I can’t say.) Echo walks in on Clint “Hawkeye/Ronin” Barton taking a shower and seems impressed.

Danny Rand asks Dr. Strange if he can help Danny stop others from tapping into his Iron Fist powers. Doc says “No Can do,” and that someday both Iron Fist and Dr. Strange will be replaced by the new masters of their power bases. Both agree this will be teh suck :p .

The heroes gather, including Luke Cage and his family. Ms. Luke Cage bitches him out in front of all that he thinks she and the Baby are Skrulls. Dr. Strange says he has a magical spell that shows everybody’s true, pure inner self. The Results?

Inside Luke Cage is the ole’ school, yellow shirt wearing, afro sporting Power-Man. Jessica Jones still sees herself as her old Super-hero self, too. They rib each other on living in the past. Iron Fist sees an Idealized, mythical Iron Fist. Peter Parker still sees himself as a goofy kid, deciding that he must deep down wish he never got spider powers. Dr. Strange sees himself still as a Doctor. Clint sees himself as Captain America. Echo sees herself as a female Daredevil. Wolvie walks in and sees himself as a Samurai warrior.

Wolvie tells them all the Hood got away, and he thinks the Hood plans on sending Deathlock to attack Avengers Tower. Luke and Clint agree: The right thing to do is go help the other Avengers. They all set out only to find the Mighty Avengers knee deep in Venom Symbiotes….and SCENE!

-GREAT STUFF! I love Clint as Cap, though I’m sure he’ll never wear the suit (Again.) I wish Wolvie didn’t get punked by the Hood in order to make the Hood seem bigger. The Timeline is getting massively screwed up, as we have the two teams running into each other AGAIN at the end of this one, leading into the next Mighty Avengers arc…Peter is still dressed in black fer cryin’ out loud?!
Always a treat, I love New Avengers? Take it away, floks:

[SlapShot!]

did anyone else notice that spider-woman was with the mighty avengers?

[Monty_Cristo]

bored to tears. he basically stretched out the cover to comic length (+ a really dull x-story). no action whatsoever. and i still don't like any of these characters. thankfully, i left it on the shelf and picked up X-Factor instead. :thumbs up:

[Kusanagi]

Much better issue, the team works better when their upbeat makes the book flow better. Liked Cage and Jessica naming the baby Danielle, was a nice moment with Iron Fist, and the inner self thing was nice great banter with Luke and Jessica. Hopefully Bendis is done with team angst and can keep this mood going for upcoming issues.

[Jmacq1]

I too enjoyed this issue much more than the last few. Though I must admit my favorite moment was Maya walking in on Clint. Her shock compared to his relative nonchalance was rather amusing. I'd imagine I'm not the only one thinking the future relationship seeds are being planted. :p

[Sonicjuce]

I would say this was the best issue I had read in awhile. This book has gotten really old, but Bendis may just be turning it around.

Now they need a new artist, although Yu didn't look as awful as usual.

I didn't think the part with wolverine getting shot in the balls was really necessary, and I think cause of the art it took me a second to figure out what just happened.

[DaeJi]

The Hood took out Wolverine's junk. Never have I seen a man who wanted to die in as horriblely a way as possible as I've just seen here.

[KOSLOX]

This was a great issue and shows what I' ve been saying for months, none of the NA are skrulls. I'm really excited for this event to get rolling now.

[KirkWarren]

The Hood took out Wolverine's junk. Never have I seen a man who wanted to die in as horriblely a way as possible as I've just seen here.

"Maybe itll grow back bigger" made me laugh out loud.


Issue was great all around. Dont know how one poster thought there was absolutley no action as the first several pages consist of the fight between Hood and Wolverine.

Did I miss it or did the baby not have an inner self projected? Maybe too young to have a concept of self to project like that or just missed in the story. Wong wasnt ruled out either from what I could see.

I'm not too enthusiastic about the symbiote arc starting, but I have faith in Bendis. Hopefully it doesnt turn into generic fights like the ninja arc.

[Clea]

This was a great issue and shows what I' ve been saying for months, none of the NA are skrulls. I'm really excited for this event to get rolling now.

The fact that this issue proved that none of the NAs is a Skrull has now convinced me that at least one of them is a Skrull.

[Clea]

I liked this issue quite a lot. The writing and the art were both terrific. All of the characterizations seemed spot on to me.

[Will.S]

This was a fun issue all around!

Loved the nods to the stuff going on in Immortal Iron Fist with Orson, Night Nurse finally showing up, and the scuffle between Wolverine and the Hood. I'm also glad to see Dr. Strange and Danny getting more face time throughout this new arc, my only problem was with the spell at the end. Dr. Strange had previously used a similar spell so to use that plot device twice was redundant although it does give the cover a cool meaning when relating to the scene that happens in the book.

Count me in on also loving the potential Clint/Echo relationship, that made for a cool scene on Clint's behalf. Jessica Jones, Spider-Man, and Luke were all very fun throughout with all the banter. I couldn't help but glom onto what Spider-Man said about the sleeper skrull theory, that seems like an important clue to someone or something.

Anyway the cliffhanger was quite good so the whole Venom virus should be fun to see play out considering this type of team is lower powered (Dr. Strange will have to bust out some serious magic). Looks like the next issue is going to have Jigsaw and Tigra as well so the crossover between the titles seems to be just beginning.

Leinil Yu's art looked fantastic here outside of some stumpy looking figure work on Clint in his gear. Dave McCaig's colors again are perfect and enhance the art to truly good levels.

9/10

[MakeshiftHero]

I thought this issue was a good read. I liked how we got to see the Dr. Strange/Night Nurse relationship again. But mmmaaaaaaaannn is it just me or does she seem skrully? Maybe it's just the way that the characters are drawn and the colors used, but even after the magic I couldn't help but feel that at least one of them is a skrull.

But I think for now I'm going to just read read and try not to read between any lines and suspect. That way I can just enjoy the story more without always thinking "skrull?" in the back of my head

Clint's "in or out?" was great along with Logan's "Maybe it'll grow back bigger."

The other part of the story that I really enjoyed was the naming of the baby. It's nice to finaly see some kind of buddy buddy/family interaction between Danny and Luke.

I wouldn't say best book of the week or anything close to that, but it was a good read.

[MAK15]

bored to tears. he basically stretched out the cover to comic length (+ a really dull x-story). no action whatsoever. and i still don't like any of these characters. thankfully, i left it on the shelf and picked up X-Factor instead. :thumbs up:

you really need to stop coming to these threads, man.

The Hood took out Wolverine's junk. Never have I seen a man who wanted to die in as horriblely a way as possible as I've just seen here.

that's like the second time he's shot someone there on panel

[Omega Alpha]

The best NA issue except for the Luke Cage and Sentry CW tie-ins. Great moments for both Logan and the Hood (which now seems more of a treat due to his turning demon thing, which he didn't have on the mini). For those who whine about Bendis ignoring continuity, he did used it well with Strange and Iron Fist. The only bad thing is that now NA already moved on to other story while MA is still stuck and we got spoiled already.

[Alphaxman]

It was ok. I’m not a big fan of NA. I prefer MA and Bendis speech patterns are getting on my nerves a little though. If Luke said girl one more time…But it was good to see Clint flirting again.

Can someone tell me where this take place around Ironfist series?

[Will.S]

The only bad thing is that now NA already moved on to other story while MA is still stuck and we got spoiled already.
Yeah with all the exciting stuff going on in New Avengers and Avengers: The Initiative, consider my excitement and the momentum for Mighty Avengers fully killed.

Can someone tell me where this take place around Ironfist series?
Between Immortal Iron Fist #2 & 3. From what it looks like, he hadn't met Orson yet.

[KOSLOX]

Yeah with all the exciting stuff going on in New Avengers and Avengers: The Initiative, consider my excitement and the momentum for Mighty Avengers fully killed.


Between Immortal Iron Fist #2 & 3. From what it looks like, he hadn't met Orson yet.

I figured it's after the second arc (current story) since he already knows about the legacy when talking to strange.

[Arti]

Did no one else notice that a symbiote landed on Echo's arm in the last panel? And interesting that Spider-Woman was with the Mighty Avengers.

[MAK15]

Did no one else notice that a symbiote landed on Echo's arm in the last panel? And interesting that Spider-Woman was with the Mighty Avengers.

no, we noticed. we just wanted to talk about the other stuff.

[Pyro]

I enjoyed the issue quite a bit. The way the cover related to the inside story sort of surprised me. I just hadn't realized that the cover versions of the NA were their true selves.

Massive LOLs at Wolvie getting his balls blown off. The Hood is so cocky to think that he could really have killed the Wolverine. Wolvie ain't no skrull. He's the real deal.

I was very pleased to see Night Nurse. She and Doc were getting it on! :eek: It looks like she's not running her practice in Doc's home anymore, as she was when we last saw her in "The Oath."

Cute scene with the naming of the baby. Danielle is perfect. Too bad she may or may not be a skrull.

Hot scene with Clint in the shower.

I can't believe the team is about to face the symbiotes already. MA is so behind. And I'm not even going to try to fit WWH in there.

[worstblogever]

"Maybe itll grow back bigger" made me laugh out loud.

Did I miss it or did the baby not have an inner self projected? Maybe too young to have a concept of self to project like that or just missed in the story. Wong wasnt ruled out either from what I could see.


Was it just me, or did it seem like Wong was in the room, got the hell outta Dodge before Strange cast that spell... then only came back in after when Wolverine started trying to get them all out to stop the supposed Deathlok attack? It was a convenient trip to the can... or something. I don't remember him being present the first time Dr. Strange cast the "intent of deception" spell in the previous storyline to confirm it was really Hawkeye.

Wong's a Skrull. It would explain the "snooty" thing he's had... and his weird question about Jessica breast-feeding. That was pretty nosy for an ascetic house servant.

I know, everybody says every character is a Skrull lately. But Wong's my first, and only pick. The Skrulls would know that it would be the best way to keep an eye on Doc Strange, particularly after their mind-probes from the current Illuminati series #1. Whoever they fully REPLACED, though... that I have no clue, or even if they did.

[agirlyman]

The fact that this issue proved that none of the NAs is a Skrull has now convinced me that at least one of them is a Skrull.

Hah! Notice how Wolverine wasn't there for the spell...hmmmm he is the last person I would suspect to be a "Skrully Skrull".

[jackolover]

I gotta say, I'd like to see a team -up with Luke Cages Yellow shirt, and his wife Jess in the Pink jump suit. That would be so 70's. And if Cage is this hard 21st century bruiser, and Jess is all bad Jones-Agency, they would fit hand to glove as a team.

And what is with Hawkeye and wanting to be Cap? Sure he can aspire to be Cap, but really take over the mantle? I think Hawk has some real issues about losing Cap and not being there to do something about it, not that he wants the job. Either that, or he has some real image of himself as the Great American dream. I think Hawkeye needs to rein in the emotion some times. I would like to see an issue where this is addressed.

A female Daredevil? I'm sorry, but thinking about Matt Murdock with tits freaks me out. No,No.

[jackolover]

Hah! Notice how Wolverine wasn't there for the spell...hmmmm he is the last person I would suspect to be a "Skrully Skrull".

I'm not sure it disproves that they aren't skrulls at all. Maybe skrulls can aspire to be some hero they most admire, and it comes up just like the other people. What you might want to see is who doesn't like being who he is?

[Adriel]

Was it just me, or did it seem like Wong was in the room, got the hell outta Dodge before Strange cast that spell... then only came back in after when Wolverine started trying to get them all out to stop the supposed Deathlok attack? It was a convenient trip to the can... or something. I don't remember him being present the first time Dr. Strange cast the "intent of deception" spell in the previous storyline to confirm it was really Hawkeye.

Wong's a Skrull. It would explain the "snooty" thing he's had... and his weird question about Jessica breast-feeding. That was pretty nosy for an ascetic house servant.

I know, everybody says every character is a Skrull lately. But Wong's my first, and only pick. The Skrulls would know that it would be the best way to keep an eye on Doc Strange, particularly after their mind-probes from the current Illuminati series #1. Whoever they fully REPLACED, though... that I have no clue, or even if they did.

Brilliant!

[Chase_Stein]

Did no one else notice that a symbiote landed on Echo's arm in the last panel? And interesting that Spider-Woman was with the Mighty Avengers.

Yeah I did! It kinda sucks cause I hate Mighty Avengers (with the exception on Black Widow and Ares) and now, I have to follow the comic book just because Jess is now part of the team. :(

As for Echo being possessed again...well what's new? She can be possessed by Satan anytime and no one will notice. I just wish that she could be chracterized better.

As for the issue, great job Bendis except for both of the complaints above.

[trickster]

Cute scene with the naming of the baby. Danielle is perfect. Too bad she may or may not be a skrull.


How can she not be a skrull? What's with her glowing eyes then?

[Eumenide No 2]

bored to tears. he basically stretched out the cover to comic length (+ a really dull x-story). no action whatsoever. and i still don't like any of these characters. thankfully, i left it on the shelf and picked up X-Factor instead. :thumbs up:

Wow...you didn't like an issue of New Avengers?

But you always lov....oh wait...you never liked this book, you remind us only every other post, month after month.
Why you continue reading a book that you never liked, after 34 issues, is a mystery to me...

" Dont know how one poster thought there was absolutley no action as the first several pages consist of the fight between Hood and Wolverine.



Cuz that poster is Haunt/Monty Cristo, he would find imaginary reasons to criticize a Bendis book even if that book was about Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King, Ghandi and Princess Diana finding the cure for Cancer, and it won a Pulitzer Prize for Literature.
He's never liked the book after 34 issues, and he continues reading it, I guess he still hopes it somehow, magically becomes a book he enjoys.
Or maybe he just likes to bitch about Bendis' writing.

[MAK15]

How can she not be a skrull? What's with her glowing eyes then?

her mom's got limited shapeshifting powers.
listen to the bendis tapes summer edition.
I'm not sure what number it is, I know that its there.

[myslead]

Hah! Notice how Wolverine wasn't there for the spell...hmmmm he is the last person I would suspect to be a "Skrully Skrull".

?

he gets in at the last minute and sees himself as a samurai

[Jmacq1]

Here's a thought: If Wong is indeed a Skrull...maybe he's replaced Jess' formula with Skrull Milk. ;)

[Don Quixote]

Not happy with Jessica Drew being with the thought bubble gang. Seriously, why so many thought bubbles when not one of them is capable of an interesting idea?

And I'm of the opinion that the art is damaging this book more than anything else. It was Finch, more than anything, that attracted me to New Avengers in the first place. I don't know why Marvel want guys like Yu, Bachalo and Ramos working on their core books.

But I still think NA is far better than MA. I like that Clint sees himself as Captain America, even though he passed on the opportunity. Hopefully he'll step out of the shadows now, after spending most of the time since his return in a mask at the back of the room.

Nice to see Big Bad Wolverine get spanked by Little Red Riding Hood as well.

[agirlyman]

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he gets in at the last minute and sees himself as a samurai

Yeah, I was wrong on that, maybe worst is right, was "Wong" in the room, or did he Hightail it outta there?

[unkiedev]

I can't understand what anyone has to complain about on this issue: Good Character development, great fights and funny dialog. The story is firmly entrenched in continuity with nice nods to other storylines. Both writing and art are top notch.

Yu is a great artist. He isn't always the CLEAREST, or the most expressive but his gestures and poses are both dramatic and exciting. I'd rather someone with a little "razzle-dazzle" like Yu has then someone who can frame better but is a boring style...It would be a bigger issue if YU was completely lousy at framing, but as it is he's just not great.

-I gotta say, worstblogever, pretty clever. didn't notice that myself. we shall see, eh?

Still wish Dr. Strange was still dating Dead-Girl. 'Course, I'd love to see Dead Girl join the Avengers.

[LordKaos]

Step up from the past issues. The art still sucks though, I couldn't really recognize Night Nurse.

[Kefky]

I'm still thinking there's a decent chance of Doc Strange being a skrull. I mean, if he's a skrull, he could be just making all this magic sh*t up, and the rest of the NA wouldn't be able to tell. It'd explain his wonky power levels in this book, and his insanely stupid decision in WWH.

Although... Anyone find it odd that Jessica didn't recognize Peter as a high-school student? Yea, that could be something. It'd make sense for her to make up with Luke so fast if she was a skrull, not before throwing a trantum to make sure that he'll never suspect her again.

[unkiedev]

Step up from the past issues. The art still sucks though, I couldn't really recognize Night Nurse.

Recognize "Night Nurse?" She's a woman with long hair. She wears a nurses uniform...she could be any nurse, any woman. The reason heroes wear bright crazy costumes is so we know as readers who they are. Night Nurse dresses like a nurse.

You can get on Yu's butt on his action sequences not always being clear, but I challenge any current Marvel artists to draw Night Nurse in bed with Dr. Strange and have her be instantly recognizable.

[Kefky]

Recognize "Night Nurse?" She's a woman with long hair. She wears a nurses uniform...she could be any nurse, any woman. The reason heroes wear bright crazy costumes is so we know as readers who they are. Night Nurse dresses like a nurse.

Also, giant boobs.

[Shonuff]

I enjoyed this issue. The Hood shot wolverine in the balls, we finally learned baby Cage's name, Luke is still easing himself into the leadership role, I LOVED the little moment with how Hawkeye wishes he could be/how he sees himself....Next issue should have more action for those complaining about that.

[trickster]

I can't understand what anyone has to complain about on this issue: Good Character development, great fights and funny dialog. The story is firmly entrenched in continuity with nice nods to other storylines. Both writing and art are top notch.

Yu is a great artist. He isn't always the CLEAREST, or the most expressive but his gestures and poses are both dramatic and exciting. I'd rather someone with a little "razzle-dazzle" like Yu has then someone who can frame better but is a boring style...It would be a bigger issue if YU was completely lousy at framing, but as it is he's just not great.

-I gotta say, worstblogever, pretty clever. didn't notice that myself. we shall see, eh?

Still wish Dr. Strange was still dating Dead-Girl. 'Course, I'd love to see Dead Girl join the Avengers.
You know, I just realized one thing: can you honestly he is a good artist if he can't draw a pretty face? Ask him to draw a kid's face, a girl and a pretty woman and see if he can do it. Hid doodles aren't really faces, even though our mind makes them into faces, just like we see a smile when we see the yellow badge on the Watchmen cover, because our brain interprets it that way.

[Psyco panda]

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he gets in at the last minute and sees himself as a samurai

Ah, but was the because of the spell, or because he is a skrull who can shapeshift into a samurai at will?

Really, i'd like to know. I haven't read the book.

[Clea]

Not happy with Jessica Drew being with the thought bubble gang. Seriously, why so many thought bubbles when not one of them is capable of an interesting idea?

And I'm of the opinion that the art is damaging this book more than anything else. It was Finch, more than anything, that attracted me to New Avengers in the first place. I don't know why Marvel want guys like Yu, Bachalo and Ramos working on their core books.

But I still think NA is far better than MA. I like that Clint sees himself as Captain America, even though he passed on the opportunity. Hopefully he'll step out of the shadows now, after spending most of the time since his return in a mask at the back of the room.

Nice to see Big Bad Wolverine get spanked by Little Red Riding Hood as well.


My theory on all the thought bubbles in the Avengers books is that later on, there will be some sort of huge 'reveal' that we've never seen the thought bubbles for any of the Skrull impersonators. So now, everything we see someone's thoughts, that means they are still human.

[unkiedev]

You know, I just realized one thing: can you honestly he is a good artist if he can't draw a pretty face? Ask him to draw a kid's face, a girl and a pretty woman and see if he can do it. Hid doodles aren't really faces, even though our mind makes them into faces, just like we see a smile when we see the yellow badge on the Watchmen cover, because our brain interprets it that way.Yes yes and yes, and I have a BFA in Illustration.

1) To be a good "Artists" one does not need to be a good draftsman or illustrator. This is only in response to your question "Can he be a called a good artists if he can't draw." Yes, he can, however:

2) He's a good draftsman. NO, he isn't the best, but he is dynamic and exciting. He's not illustrating medical journals or package design, he's a comic book illustrator. He knows how to draw exciting and action packed slug-fests with brightly clad heroes. So his faces are wonky, so his characters aren't "Pretty." He gets the job done and looks cool doin' it. That's all that's called for. Jack Kirby was THE master of panel design, and all of his figures looked bold, iconic and exciting...but he was a pretty poor "Face-guy" himself.

3) You wrote: "Hid doodles aren't really faces, even though our mind makes them into faces." Have you read Scott Mcloud's "Understanding Comics?" He argues that all Comic books and Film for that matter work JUST how you described it. And he's right. Heck, go look at Magritte's famous painting "The treachery of Images," ya' know, the one of the painting of a pipe labled "This is not a Pipe." http://french.chass.utoronto.ca/fcs195/photos/Treachery%20of%20Images_thb.jpg

All art is representational and our brain does the rest. You might have meant he doesn't really draw GOOD faces...that's a different matter.

I like Yu. Give him a break. His stuff is fun and that's all I need.

[Magneto Rocks]

Perhaps Cage intends to actually start acting as a competent leader now after 8 issues of being an ass.

[Clea]

I'm still thinking there's a decent chance of Doc Strange being a skrull. I mean, if he's a skrull, he could be just making all this magic sh*t up, and the rest of the NA wouldn't be able to tell. It'd explain his wonky power levels in this book, and his insanely stupid decision in WWH.

Although... Anyone find it odd that Jessica didn't recognize Peter as a high-school student? Yea, that could be something. It'd make sense for her to make up with Luke so fast if she was a skrull, not before throwing a trantum to make sure that he'll never suspect her again.


Unfortunately, I fear that the explanation for Strange's diminishing powers and absolutely out of character, insane action in WWH is simply that Marvel (or at least Bendis) has decided to 'reconstruct' (break) the character so that he fits better into their superhero books. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.

I'm on the fence about Jessica. She could still be a Skrull. So could this version of Night Nurse (as opposed to the version from The Oath). I'm still quite suspicious of Clint Barton.

All in all, so far as the Skrull paranoia is concerned, I think that Bendis is doing a terrific job of keeping everyone guessing. I only wish that it would be resolved sooner than next summer, but ... whatever. All good things come to those who wait, I suppose, and in the meantime, I'm very much enjoying the Avengers titles -- except for the nonsense with Dr. Strange.

[Omega Alpha]

The fact that this issue proved that none of the NAs is a Skrull has now convinced me that at least one of them is a Skrull.

Or it proves that none of them is a Skrull;)

Anyway, i would like to see less surprise and more suspense: instead of having us wondering who is a Skrull and who's not on the Avengers teams, Bendis should have one of the characters being kidnapped on panel by a Skrull, and we'd wait until this member betrays the team. Is much better than reveal that the spell doesn't work or something like that.

[InfinityCorp]

- Wow, almost everyone really seemed to like this issue. I remember reading it and throwing it down with distain. Other than the first 4 pages I didn't find anything I really liked. Dr.Strange does his spell thing, again. He finds nothing, again. They push the Hawkeye=Cap., again. Then Wolvie tells em than Deathlok is going after the Mighty Avengers. Oooo. Not like Wonder Man, The Sentry, Ares, or Iron Man could take care of that...
- It just felt like an attempt to throw the skrull thing on the back burner, which is the pretty much the reason I chose to still read NA. Like the X-files there is a point when you need to give your audience answers, and just running around in circles killing time until you '08 Skrull event is, well, boring. Kind of a bummer read for me. Thankfully, Green Lantern washed away the bad comic after taste later that evening.

[shaxberd]

Was it just me, or did it seem like Wong was in the room, got the hell outta Dodge before Strange cast that spell... then only came back in after when Wolverine started trying to get them all out to stop the supposed Deathlok attack? It was a convenient trip to the can... or something. I don't remember him being present the first time Dr. Strange cast the "intent of deception" spell in the previous storyline to confirm it was really Hawkeye.

Wong's a Skrull. It would explain the "snooty" thing he's had... and his weird question about Jessica breast-feeding. That was pretty nosy for an ascetic house servant.

I know, everybody says every character is a Skrull lately. But Wong's my first, and only pick. The Skrulls would know that it would be the best way to keep an eye on Doc Strange, particularly after their mind-probes from the current Illuminati series #1. Whoever they fully REPLACED, though... that I have no clue, or even if they did.

I agree that Wong is seriously under suspicion. Of the others, the one I most seriously question is Dr. Strange. He wasn't exactly a nice guy back before he became the master of the mystic arts. Of course, this could just mean that he's still atoning for that part of his life in the way that Peter Parker might still be trying to atone for Uncle Ben's death. Hard to say.

[Dr. Chaos]

Loved all the lil character moments in this, reminds me of why I feel so detached to the Mighty Avengers and might not be following it for very long, the NAs wear their hearts on their sleeve, they might have had more page time but they're instantly more relatable. They are the "human" Avengers.

Wolvie heals and drinks, hoping his little pal, ya’ know, “Cyclops,” will grow back bigger.
I love how Bendis writes Wolverine in this book, he's the Clint Eastwood of Avengers. http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/sally/lol.gif

Maybe I'm just incredibly dense but..was Hawkeye propositioning Echo?

And once again, love Yu's style, can't compliment it enough even if the Night Nurse kind of looked suspiciously like Jessica Jones from last issue in some panels. It's going to be pretty depressing to see him leave though I'm sure fans who want a return to the old bland, average eveyday style will be happy (this is assuming Marvel isn't picking up a suitable replacement).

[agirlyman]

You know he was Chaos, he's like tony/steve put together, well before steve got dead because of tony.

[jackolover]

Although... Anyone find it odd that Jessica didn't recognize Peter as a high-school student? Yea, that could be something. It'd make sense for her to make up with Luke so fast if she was a skrull, not before throwing a tantrum to make sure that he'll never suspect her again.

Oh, no! My paranoia is high enough. Don't make those claims about Jess, when she just finished taking the heat off herself. But it is odd, because Jess had a crush on Peter when he looked like that at school. A double ploy that now makes Peter more a skrull, now that he doesn't see himself as a hero, and Jess can't recognise him.

[Will.S]

- It just felt like an attempt to throw the skrull thing on the back burner, which is the pretty much the reason I chose to still read NA. Like the X-files there is a point when you need to give your audience answers, and just running around in circles killing time until you '08 Skrull event is, well, boring.
You know, other stuff does go on in the MU that doesn't involve Skrulls.

Just sit tight and wait for the revelations in the Secret Invasion mini to come, the issues where you don't think anything is going on might actually have something hidden there that will be nicer to see in retrospect such as the possible Wong thing.

[shaxberd]

Oh, no! My paranoia is high enough. Don't make those claims about Jess, when she just finished taking the heat off herself. But it is odd, because Jess had a crush on Peter when he looked like that at school. A double ploy that now makes Peter more a skrull, now that he doesn't see himself as a hero, and Jess can't recognise him.

That might have been shock that the Peter Parker she had a crush on as a kid is the same Peter Parker that is Spider-Man. In all fairness, it's not a logical assumption that someone from your childhood is now a famous superhero, and Peter hasn't recognized Jessica either. Also, it might not be something she wants to admit to in front of Luke.

"Him? You had a crush on him? Before he had powers? Seriously? Baby, you moved up."

[Kefky]

Bendis even mentioned in the last podcast that he was gonna reference Jessica's high school crush on Peter soon... Maybe that was it.... But not on in the way we expected it. :)

[toolucky52384]

someone might have said this already, but newsarama said the other day that people are making the mistake of thinking about the skrull thing in a linear fasion, i.e. wast a skrull, skrull replaced them, then people figure out it is a skrull.

skrulls could be in and out on a regular basis. so long as the hero doesnt find out that he was somewhere he wasnt, there isnt any need for a complete replacement.

[GRANT!]

Wasn't really feeling this one. The Wolvie/Hood fight was fun and there was some great character moments for Doctor Strange, Night Nurse and Iron Fist but the whole "trust" spell thing seems a bit redudant.

Either way bendi and Yu are cranking this one out so it should pick up next month. I wish Mighty Avengers would get caught up quicker. We got two more issues until the Symbiote arc.

[Will.S]

Interesting art facts:

- Luke Cage and Wolverine do not show their pupils at any point during this issue.

- Night Nurse actually has black hair and blue eyes. Dave McCaig colored her hair and eyes brown.

[Kirk G]

:eek: Interesting art facts:

- Luke Cage and Wolverine do not show their pupils at any point during this issue.

- Night Nurse actually has black hair and blue eyes. Dave McCaig colored her hair and eyes brown.

Is SHE da skrull??????:eek:

[Kirk G]

Maybe I'm just incredibly dense but..was Hawkeye propositioning Echo?



Naw, propositioning is a bit too strong a word for it.
Remember, she doesn't hear, and so, didn't know that the water was running or that anyone was in there... So, she's caught off guard and surprised!

As far as his reaction, he's not upset, only annoyed by HER continued stammaring... hense his "In or Out" comment. BUT SHE CAN'T SEE OR HEAR IT, cause he's turned away!

I thought it was a nice little Hawkeye moment... a bit of cheezecake for the fans, but really means nothing except that Hawk is trying to relax and wash his stress out of his hair.

I like the fact that his hero is cap...and I wonder if this is going to become a plot point... that he's going to be destined for the cap uniform... or that he's going to vie with Bucky for it when he learns that the Winter Soldier is going for it!:cool:

[Monty_Cristo]

Naw, propositioning is a bit too strong a word for it.
Remember, she doesn't hear, and so, didn't know that the water was running or that anyone was in there... So, she's caught off guard and surprised!

As far as his reaction, he's not upset, only annoyed by HER continued stammaring... hense his "In or Out" comment. BUT SHE CAN'T SEE OR HEAR IT, cause he's turned away!

I thought it was a nice little Hawkeye moment... a bit of cheezecake for the fans,

or the beginning of their relationship. next will be them bonding over hearing loss or sparring.

[Pyro]

Interesting art facts:
...
- Night Nurse actually has black hair and blue eyes. Dave McCaig colored her hair and eyes brown.That actually kinda bugged me. Why is it so hard to keep up with her last appearance?

[myslead]

Ah, but was the because of the spell, or because he is a skrull who can shapeshift into a samurai at will?

Really, i'd like to know. I haven't read the book.

... He sees himself above his head as a Samurai.

unless there was a skrull floating above his head, i'm pretty sure it was the spell :p

[gunz]

gotta agree with what everyone is saying, this issue was a huge step forward from the crap bendis was giving us. This story actually had the team acting like heroes. And i gotta say, the whole thing between luke and iron fist, that was actually really touching. I mean, I can't remember a more touching moment in comics latley (cept when thor pwned iron man, but that's for another thread). Keep it up Bendis

p.s

gotta agree with what others said, why does echo get possesed every other issue?

[Shyft]

Naw, propositioning is a bit too strong a word for it.
Remember, she doesn't hear, and so, didn't know that the water was running or that anyone was in there... So, she's caught off guard and surprised!

As far as his reaction, he's not upset, only annoyed by HER continued stammaring... hense his "In or Out" comment. BUT SHE CAN'T SEE OR HEAR IT, cause he's turned away!

I thought it was a nice little Hawkeye moment... a bit of cheezecake for the fans, but really means nothing except that Hawk is trying to relax and wash his stress out of his hair.

I like the fact that his hero is cap...and I wonder if this is going to become a plot point... that he's going to be destined for the cap uniform... or that he's going to vie with Bucky for it when he learns that the Winter Soldier is going for it!:cool:

you know i got the general gist of this panel, but COMPLETELY forgot the fact that Echo is deaf, and wouldnt have heard the shower/what he said, etc etc! Makes the scene even cooler, thanks for poitning it out.

[Shyft]

Interesting art facts:

- Luke Cage and Wolverine do not show their pupils at any point during this issue.

- Night Nurse actually has black hair and blue eyes. Dave McCaig colored her hair and eyes brown.

i wouldn't read too much into the first one. All the signs indicate that those two are two of the least likely to be Skrulls. As with all these sort of annoying conspiracy stories those signs (talking specifically about Luke Cages view of the world and the conspiracy, the fact that Wolverine almost enjoys it considering his past with Skrull swapping, etc) COULD be red herrings by Marvel, but i'd like to think not.

[StoneGold]

i wouldn't read too much into the first one. All the signs indicate that those two are two of the least likely to be Skrulls. As with all these sort of annoying conspiracy stories those signs (talking specifically about Luke Cages view of the world and the conspiracy, the fact that Wolverine almost enjoys it considering his past with Skrull swapping, etc) COULD be red herrings by Marvel, but i'd like to think not.

If Wolvie was a Skrull, it wouldn't have taken him that long to regrow his wang.

[1WEBHEAD]

Yes! Bendis got his A-game back and totally did a great job with this issue.

I loved how Bendis brought back Night Nurse from BKV's and gave Danny more panel time. I enjoyed the Iron Fist and Dr. Strange moment.

I'm a little dissappointed in where Echo has been doing. All she's done lately is walk around in her underoos. Though, I admit, I did laugh when she walked in on Clint.

I thought we would see more of the Hood and his crew but oh well, there's always next issue.

Overall, I enjoyed this issue and the story pacing was satisfying.

4/5

PS: When the NA were running off to go face the symbiotes and they saw the Mighty Avengers, who is The Sentry carrying? Lenil just scribbled that guy in, I can't make who he/she is.

[Shyft]

Yes! Bendis got his A-game back and totally did a great job with this issue.

I loved how Bendis brought back Night Nurse from BKV's and gave Danny more panel time. I enjoyed the Iron Fist and Dr. Strange moment.

I'm a little dissappointed in where Echo has been doing. All she's done lately is walk around in her underoos. Though, I admit, I did laugh when she walked in on Clint.

I thought we would see more of the Hood and his crew but oh well, there's always next issue.

Overall, I enjoyed this issue and the story pacing was satisfying.

4/5

PS: When the NA were running off to go face the symbiotes and they saw the Mighty Avengers, who is The Sentry carrying? Lenil just scribbled that guy in, I can't make who he/she is.

i think i can see black with a red head, so im ASSUMING Black Widow. Could be wrong though, because as you said they are just sketched.

[Nate Palm]

or the beginning of their relationship. next will be them bonding over hearing loss or sparring.

On a tangent: Is Clint still partially deaf? In the back of my mind I seem to remember him being cured as part of the whole coming back to life thing.

[StoneGold]

On a tangent: Is Clint still partially deaf? In the back of my mind I seem to remember him being cured as part of the whole coming back to life thing.

Not since Heroes Return. Franklin cured him.

[Will.S]

That actually kinda bugged me. Why is it so hard to keep up with her last appearance?
I dunno, I'll see if I can give Dave McCaig the reference over at his website/mssg board.

i wouldn't read too much into the first one. All the signs indicate that those two are two of the least likely to be Skrulls. As with all these sort of annoying conspiracy stories those signs (talking specifically about Luke Cages view of the world and the conspiracy, the fact that Wolverine almost enjoys it considering his past with Skrull swapping, etc) COULD be red herrings by Marvel, but i'd like to think not.
Heh, nah I wasn't saying that they were skrulls.

Just that I found that interesting (and maybe slightly annoying) from an artistic standpoint.

[40yearoldnovafan]

This was a great issue and shows what I' ve been saying for months, none of the NA are skrulls. I'm really excited for this event to get rolling now.

When the good doctor did his mojo, the Night Nurse (Linda Carter[Wonder Woman]) was not present. Neither was Danielle. I hope the Night Nurse is not a Skrull. But I have a sneaky suspicion she is. By the way, she looks much better here than she did in The Oath.

Jimmy

[Fatguy]

I liked this issue a lot, which is awesome because its been awhile since I have like NA a lot. Its been in a bit of a lull, imho. This issue totally clicked with me though, finally liking Dr. Strange on the team, finally liking Clint as Ronin (though, it may be I just love Clint...), and glad to finally see at least one good Luke/Danny moment. The only person I am still not feeling is Echo. I did like her in Daredevil though, so I'm sure its only because she has spent so little time being herself and she hasnt had many interactions with the rest of the team.

Awesome issue, glad to see the ball get rolling again. Still not a big Yu fan, but I dont dislike it so much that it takes me out of the story. Overall, my 3rd favorite book of the week (Thor and Green Lantern were freaking spectacular this week).

[Toboe]

Good issue. The endless stupid skrull discussion issue after issue had annoyed me almost as much as Elektra being an alien...

Doctor Strange's spell was redundant as he had donde it before, but was an interesting scene. Although I don't know what to think of Echo viewing herself as a female Daredevil. Surely there must be more to her than that. Besides, it made for a very distubing image...
I liked her moment with Clint, I wish she'd get more development, maybe show some of her relationship with Wolverine in the past.

I'm glad it ties in with Mighty Avengers, if only the damn were in time.

[Bulky Brent]

She will get more character development the more the book progresses remember she has just recently been added to the team.After all her origin is from Daredevil and she did sort of replace Elektra so it's does make sense that she has such an admiration for him and would want to emulate him.

It's good too see that everything with Luke and Jessica is all hunky dory hopefully now he will start acting like a leader now that this Skrull thing has been cleared up.I'm glad were going to see some New/Mighty Avengers tie in action.

[Clea]

Good issue. The endless stupid skrull discussion issue after issue had annoyed me almost as much as Elektra being an alien...

Doctor Strange's spell was redundant as he had donde it before, but was an interesting scene.
<snip>


I would not be at all surprised if what Strange's spell revealed turns out to be a clue for future events, as in, somebody's 'inner self' is not exactly what it appeared to be on the surface. My bet is on Clint Barton.

[Omega Alpha]

I would not be at all surprised if what Strange's spell revealed turns out to be a clue for future events, as in, somebody's 'inner self' is not exactly what it appeared to be on the surface. My bet is on Clint Barton.

Hum? His is as true as any other, if not more. Cap. America was his best friend and main inspiration.

[MAK15]

oops.
wrong thread.

um...good issue!
Hood Demon! YAY!

...leave me alone.

[Ult. Fireboy]

Good issue. I am looking forward to this symbiote battle upcoming.

[tjarvis]

Nice to see Big Bad Wolverine get spanked by Little Red Riding Hood as well.

While I have to give The Hood credit for shooting Wolverine in the wang, it was the Hood who ran away from the fight after being hurt, so I'd give the nod to Wolverine on this actually.

[Omega Alpha]

While I have to give The Hood credit for shooting Wolverine in the wang, it was the Hood who ran away from the fight after being hurt, so I'd give the nod to Wolverine on this actually.

Yep, it was more of a tie, really.

[Clea]

Hum? His is as true as any other, if not more. Cap. America was his best friend and main inspiration.

I know. It's just that I've always thought the way that Barton just showed up again out of the blue was odd, so I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be a Skrull.

[tony ingram]

I know. It's just that I've always thought the way that Barton just showed up again out of the blue was odd, so I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be a Skrull.
He didn't really turn up out of the blue. I'd been expecting it since his costume was seen at the end of House of M.

[Dusty.]

This issue reminded me of why Bendis is so over-rated as a writer. Too many VERY average comics. This was just another in what seems to be an endless stream of forgetable and mediocre comics from him that I spent 3 bucks for. I'm glad it hasn't happened with Mighty Avengers yet.

Is Jessica Jones the most annoyingly BORING character in the history of comics, or what? Seriously, is anybody except Bendis (and his butt kissing fans) really interesting in her to the point that she needs to be a part of this series?

Every time I try to get into this book...Boooom...

5/10

[XPac]

This issue reminded me of why Bendis is so over-rated as a writer. Too many VERY average comics. This was just another in what seems to be an endless stream of forgetable and mediocre comics from him that I spent 3 bucks for. I'm glad it hasn't happened with Mighty Avengers yet.

Is Jessica Jones the most annoyingly BORING character in the history of comics, or what? Seriously, is anybody except Bendis (and his butt kissing fans) really interesting in her to the point that she needs to be a part of this series?

Every time I try to get into this book...Boooom...

5/10

He hasn't done a whole lot lately given how little screen time she's actually been given. But I would argue Jessica Jones is actually a very interesting character. I think Bendis work on her in Alias is one of the best things he's even written in Marvel.

Seriously though, if you're not a fan of the book save your money and just wait for the trades (his stuff often comes out better in that format anyways). No point in spending 3 bucks a month on a book you find average when there's a lot of good stuff out there these days (though I consider NA in the good stuff category... but that's me).

Also, the butt kisser line... not cool.

[Rahul]

Is Jessica Jones the most annoyingly BORING character in the history of comics, or what? Seriously, is anybody except Bendis (and his butt kissing fans) really interesting in her to the point that she needs to be a part of this series?



Dude, its all right you don't like the character or the story or anything in NA...


But please, dont label other people who enjoy the series butt kissers. It's a rather rude elitist thing to say...

[drwho]

New Avengers has been better than Mighty Avengers since it started in my opinion. That title had one good issue out of I think 4 and in New Avengers the issues have been better than Mighty. Not great, but better.

[Dusty.]

He hasn't done a whole lot lately given how little screen time she's actually been given. But I would argue Jessica Jones is actually a very interesting character. I think Bendis work on her in Alias is one of the best things he's even written in Marvel.

Seriously though, if you're not a fan of the book save your money and just wait for the trades (his stuff often comes out better in that format anyways). No point in spending 3 bucks a month on a book you find average when there's a lot of good stuff out there these days (though I consider NA in the good stuff category... but that's me).

Also, the butt kisser line... not cool.

Well, I only buy trades that I deem worthy, I don't just buy them, and very little of what comes out today has made it to my exclusive collection. I own nothing from Bendis in TPB because the endings usually don't hold up, and show him to be an uneven writer, and frankly, I'm not a really big fan of decompression or "Bendis speak". I do plan on rereading my issues since Yu came aboard, and my nephew has the first two trades that I plan to reread, but I don't see me blind buying any of this stuff, because it's just not impressive enough stuff. I hope that this upcoming Skrull mini series is as good as it sounds, though, because that's my kind of story, there.

For some odd reason, I collect a lot more of Bendis's stuff since he started hating me. (totally my fault) I collect New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, The Illuminati, and picked up the last 3 issues of Ultimate Spider-Man. He's got some strange power that I can't explain to be able to get me to do that. I'm just a puppet that dances to his tune.

I absolutely loved the first 4 issues of Mighty Avengers, and I'm hoping that he comes up with a strong ending. His beginnings are usually really good, and then the ending sours the whole thing, and I definitely don't want to have that happen. With New Avengers, it's never been my bag, because I don't think Spider-Man and Wolverine should be in the book. They are wasted. I have yet to see any justification for these out of character placements within the books themselves. The book manages to be just good enough sometimes for me to give it another chance. It's the central Marvel Universe title, so it's almost like required reading. I hope Fantastic Four takes over that spot, though I dread the thought of Mark " I pee on the American flag for kicks" Millar having that kind of power anymore after the CW debacle.

The butt kissers line was not directed at anybody (unless they know they kiss Brian's butt), but was a comment made to stress how I think the character is so dulllllllll... that only a dyed in the wool ass smoocher of the writer would consider her otherwise. You know, like as in "he has a face that only a mother could love". (comic readers really need to stop being overly sensitive to EVERYTHING. Seriously, no offense.) She adds absolutely nothing. She's a glorified Joy Mercado.

( http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/mercadojoy.htm )

I always liked Joy, but I wouldn't want her having screentime in an Avengers book instead of Hawkeye (who doesn't seem like Hawkeye at all), Spider-Woman, or one of the other underdeveloped heroes. Who REALLY wants to read about Jessica Jones in a book where the sky is the limit? I just can't see why anybody would seriously want her in the book. "Because she's married to Luke Cage" isn't a good reason, because the Avengers survived just fine all these years without Jane Foster, Sharon Carter, Diamondback, or the plethora of women in Tony Stark's life.

The issues leading up to this last one were very strong, but then this issue was just kinda blah. I'll let you know my thoughts after I reread them all.

[XPac]

Well, I only buy trades that I deem worthy, I don't just buy them, and very little of what comes out today has made it to my exclusive collection. I own nothing from Bendis in TPB because the endings usually don't hold up, and show him to be an uneven writer, and frankly, I'm not a really big fan of decompression or "Bendis speak". I do plan on rereading my issues since Yu came aboard, and my nephew has the first two trades that I plan to reread, but I don't see me blind buying any of this stuff, because it's just not impressive enough stuff. I hope that this upcoming Skrull mini series is as good as it sounds, though, because that's my kind of story, there.

For some odd reason, I collect a lot more of Bendis's stuff since he started hating me. (totally my fault) I collect New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, The Illuminati, and picked up the last 3 issues of Ultimate Spider-Man. He's got some strange power that I can't explain to be able to get me to do that. I'm just a puppet that dances to his tune.

I absolutely loved the first 4 issues of Mighty Avengers, and I'm hoping that he comes up with a strong ending. His beginnings are usually really good, and then the ending sours the whole thing, and I definitely don't want to have that happen. With New Avengers, it's never been my bag, because I don't think Spider-Man and Wolverine should be in the book. They are wasted. I have yet to see any justification for these out of character placements within the books themselves. The book manages to be just good enough sometimes for me to give it another chance. It's the central Marvel Universe title, so it's almost like required reading. I hope Fantastic Four takes over that spot, though I dread the thought of Mark " I pee on the American flag for kicks" Millar having that kind of power anymore after the CW debacle.

The butt kissers line was not directed at anybody (unless they know they kiss Brian's butt), but was a comment made to stress how I think the character is so dulllllllll... that only a dyed in the wool ass smoocher of the writer would consider her otherwise. You know, like as in "he has a face that only a mother could love". (comic readers really need to stop being overly sensitive to EVERYTHING. Seriously, no offense.) She adds absolutely nothing. She's a glorified Joy Mercado.

( http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/mercadojoy.htm )

I always liked Joy, but I wouldn't want her having screentime in an Avengers book instead of Hawkeye (who doesn't seem like Hawkeye at all), Spider-Woman, or one of the other underdeveloped heroes. Who REALLY wants to read about Jessica Jones in a book where the sky is the limit? I just can't see why anybody would seriously want her in the book. "Because she's married to Luke Cage" isn't a good reason, because the Avengers survived just fine all these years without Jane Foster, Sharon Carter, Diamondback, or the plethora of women in Tony Stark's life.

The issues leading up to this last one were very strong, but then this issue was just kinda blah. I'll let you know my thoughts after I reread them all.

Well, maybe you consider using the same high standards for buying your singles as you do trades. If you don't deem it worthy of your cash, take a walk. Or buy it... it's your money, and I don't wanna presume to tell you how to spend it. But in the eyes of marvel, if you're spending your cash on something, they're gonna presume you like it and give you more of the same. But like I said... it's your money, so se la vi.

But as for Jessica Jones... you can justify giving Luke Cages (or Dr. Stranges) supporting cast a bit more Avengers screen time because they don't have their own books like Thor, Cap, or Iron Man. Or Wolverine and Spidey for that matter. She does live with the Avengers kind of, so it does make sense to show her standing around in the background when they're at their base.

[StoneGold]

The butt kissers line was not directed at anybody (unless they know they kiss Brian's butt), but was a comment made to stress how I think the character is so dulllllllll... that only a dyed in the wool ass smoocher of the writer would consider her otherwise.

That's wonderful. But let's watch you go all ape-poopy when someone applies the same phrase to John Byrne.

[Dusty.]

That's wonderful. But let's watch you go all ape-poopy when someone applies the same phrase to John Byrne.

If I spent my time defending or standing up for John Byrne whenever he was bashed by some sheepish internet basher who doesn't even know why they are bashing, only repeating the same tired old bashes... I'd never have time to read my Bendis books!

[StoneGold]

If I spent my time defending or standing up for John Byrne whenever he was bashed by some sheepish internet basher who doesn't even know why they are bashing, only repeating the same tired old bashes... I'd never have time to read my Bendis books!

So you're right and everyone else is wrong. Got it.

[Don Quixote]

I'm by no means a 'Bendis butt kisser', I like New Avengers, but think Mighty Avengers is a pile of crap.But I have nothing against Jessica Jones. And I really don't have a problem with her appearing in New Avengers. So her presence means there might be a few more speech bubbles to read, each issue, that's not too difficult to cope with, is it?

I thought her appearances in Young Avengers were ok as well. Didn't read more than a couple of issues of Alias, so I can't really comment on what she was like in that.

[Dusty.]

So you're right and everyone else is wrong. Got it.

That's a given.

[Lombardo!]

The fact that this issue proved that none of the NAs is a Skrull has now convinced me that at least one of them is a Skrull.

*edit*
I'll say it now.

Doctor Strange. = fake projections. powers fizzling during plane crash. is a Skrull.

who's to say the magic voodoo he's spraying out the last few issues have been truthful and not simply illusions?
yeah, you can say the magic's working properly, with the whole 'invisible to Mighty Avengers' ticket.
but that could be some Super Skrull - Invisible Powers whammy, or, OR, Brother Voodoo could be in on the Skrull scene too!

Doc coulda been switched after The Oath - During Civil War Hiatus. Which would also add to the Wong's A Skrull rumour too.

But the biggest part of this theory is - if Doc Strange is a Skrull, and simply projected fake images over their heads, because he'd know who ELSE was a Skrull, this means that there could be other Skrulls on the team. Jessica included. Clint, too (the Cap thing was vague...especially after the Fallen Son one-shot).

plus when it comes to SECRET INVASION. there's gonna have to be a big "ohhh WOW a big Illuminati MoFo is a Skrull?!" moment, and seeing as it WONT be Iron Man, or Mr. Fantastic, or Namor, or the Professor, (possible Blackbolt), Doc Strange fits the bill.

just spitballin'. but, i love the guy. so here's hoping if he IS a skrull, that the original returns

[Karl H]

*edit*
I'll say it now.

Doctor Strange. = fake projections. powers fizzling during plane crash. is a Skrull.

who's to say the magic voodoo he's spraying out the last few issues have been truthful and not simply illusions?
yeah, you can say the magic's working properly, with the whole 'invisible to Mighty Avengers' ticket.
but that could be some Super Skrull - Invisible Powers whammy, or, OR, Brother Voodoo could be in on the Skrull scene too!

Doc coulda been switched after The Oath - During Civil War Hiatus. Which would also add to the Wong's A Skrull rumour too.

But the biggest part of this theory is - if Doc Strange is a Skrull, and simply projected fake images over their heads, because he'd know who ELSE was a Skrull, this means that there could be other Skrulls on the team. Jessica included. Clint, too (the Cap thing was vague...especially after the Fallen Son one-shot).

plus when it comes to SECRET INVASION. there's gonna have to be a big "ohhh WOW a big Illuminati MoFo is a Skrull?!" moment, and seeing as it WONT be Iron Man, or Mr. Fantastic, or Namor, or the Professor, (possible Blackbolt), Doc Strange fits the bill.

just spitballin'. but, i love the guy. so here's hoping if he IS a skrull, that the original returns

Yeah. Agreed. I think there's one on each team (Mighty and New). I'm going for Strange and Carol.

[worstblogever]

As this thread's first subscriber to the Wong=Skrull theory... I can't disagree with you about Strange somehow being possible. Who ever said the Skrulls don't have a Sorcerer in their whole empire?

I stand by the Wong theory, but still will say one, if not both of he and Strange are Skrulls. It's just got to be.

Besides, if it's Wong, and one other New Avenger, maybe he's sabotaging Strange's magic by bringing him altered tomes of magic to help cover for his fellow Skrull infiltrator? Kind of like if you have a smoke detector, but the arsonist went in ahead of time and pulled the battery out.

Now that's some paranoia, right there.

[Don Quixote]

As this thread's first subscriber to the Wong=Skrull theory... I can't disagree with you about Strange somehow being possible. Who ever said the Skrulls don't have a Sorcerer in their whole empire?

I stand by the Wong theory, but still will say one, if not both of he and Strange are Skrulls. It's just got to be.


But would Doctor Skrull have been good enough to pull the wool over Brother Voodoo's eyes like he did? Voodoo emphasised that, as good as he is with magic stuff, Strange is better.

Wong is the best bet, I think. Simply because none of the NA would think to suspect him. Even with all this paranoia, no one has said, "what about the shifty looking little bald guy?"

If it turns out that Jessica Drew is a Skrull, then I think that means that the Mighty Avengers were clean. She went over to their side because that's where the power is, and that's where a Skrull spy would be more useful. That's the only reason I can think of for a skrull to take the skrull corpse to Tony, because we know he's not a Skrull.

I don't know which I'd like least, Spider-Woman being a Skrull, or her joining the Mighty Avengers for real.

[shaxberd]

But would Doctor Skrull have been good enough to pull the wool over Brother Voodoo's eyes like he did? Voodoo emphasised that, as good as he is with magic stuff, Strange is better.

Wong is the best bet, I think. Simply because none of the NA would think to suspect him. Even with all this paranoia, no one has said, "what about the shifty looking little bald guy?"

If it turns out that Jessica Drew is a Skrull, then I think that means that the Mighty Avengers were clean. She went over to their side because that's where the power is, and that's where a Skrull spy would be more useful. That's the only reason I can think of for a skrull to take the skrull corpse to Tony, because we know he's not a Skrull.

I don't know which I'd like least, Spider-Woman being a Skrull, or her joining the Mighty Avengers for real.

Another weird thing is that the baby was in the room when the spell was cast, but no image formed above her (Luke is holding her). Wolverine sort of walked in unexpectedly, and yet he still got that Japanese daimyo image. What does that mean?

As for Jessica, I expect she's joining the Mighty Avengers under orders from Nick Fury, for whom she's probably still working.

[Don Quixote]

I don't know whether it means anything. A baby doesn't have any sense of self, really. Not until it's more developed, and this one's still very young. So would any image appear? Or it could be significant of something more skrully.

it'd be a lot creepier if the baby wasn't a skrull baby, but actually a skrull pretending to be a baby.

[worstblogever]

Double post...shiznit.

[worstblogever]

I don't know whether it means anything. A baby doesn't have any sense of self, really. Not until it's more developed, and this one's still very young. So would any image appear? Or it could be significant of something more skrully.

it'd be a lot creepier if the baby wasn't a skrull baby, but actually a skrull pretending to be a baby.
Even creepier would be if it was Luke and Jessica's baby, but Skrull Wong ended up pulling out a teat to give it some Skrull milk to turn it into one. That would be the most evil lactation scene ever. Even more so than the one from the Hand that Rocks the Cradle, or the cinematic classic Me, Myself and Irene. :)

[XPac]

I don't know whether it means anything. A baby doesn't have any sense of self, really. Not until it's more developed, and this one's still very young. So would any image appear? Or it could be significant of something more skrully.

it'd be a lot creepier if the baby wasn't a skrull baby, but actually a skrull pretending to be a baby.

Yeah... I'm not sure if I would have been MORE suspicious if the baby had enough sense of self to create some sort of image.

I suppose as far as clues go, it could go either way. The baby is either a clue or a red herring.

[Lombardo!]

Yeah... I'm not sure if I would have been MORE suspicious if the baby had enough sense of self to create some sort of image.

I suppose as far as clues go, it could go either way. The baby is either a clue or a red herring.

Another interesting addition to my Doc Strange Is A Skrull thought...

...HE and WONG were the ones who DELIVERED the CAGE BABY.

:eek:

because of THIS, it's possible the baby's a skrull, but the parents aint. possibly an Omen-type switcheroo-at-birth.

ooooh the possibilities!

[worstblogever]

Another interesting addition to my Doc Strange Is A Skrull thought...

...HE and WONG were the ones who DELIVERED the CAGE BABY.

:eek:

because of THIS, it's possible the baby's a skrull, but the parents aint. possibly an Omen-type switcheroo-at-birth.

ooooh the possibilities!

One of the best shocking tricks of the horror genre is to exploit the innocence of small children, and/or babies. Bendis has to jump all over this one. If not, he totally is missing the creepiest thing in years.

Shame though, that it's not like an official twist, since we're all sitting here coming up with the most terrible ways to turn Danielle Cage into a Skrull, or victim of one.

[shaunyc56]

Favorite lines, "We do good guy $*#&." "And you guys have matching booties." "In or out?" "I have a cape that levitates"

Oh yeah, and "Maybe they'll grow back bigger"

This issue was a lot of fun. Spiderman being happier was a nice change, especially lateley. And seeing my man Luke having an issue, and getting over it was also nice. Glad to see he dosen't change into "Broody McBroodenstien".

I would like to see a uniform for cage, NO TIARA, but a yellow muscle shirt w/ like a PM or LC on it, and some Blue Cargo style military pants w/ Construction style Timberland boots would be a good modernized look to Luke. And lets get Jess out into the action in that jumpsuit. I kind of like couple crime fighting teams.

[Mikl C]

I didn't enjoy this issue at all really.

[Monty_Cristo]

New Avengers has been better than Mighty Avengers since it started in my opinion. That title had one good issue out of I think 4 and in New Avengers the issues have been better than Mighty. Not great, but better.

i find Thunderbolts more fun than either. actually i find X-Factor, The Initiative, and Iron Fist more fun as well. has anyone caught on that they've been talking about the same skrull plot for each of these issues Bendis has cranked out? in 3 issues, he hasn't really done anything to get people talking besides float this theory that someone's a skrull. the Hood's debut was lame as hell. Deadpool should make a stab at running the villain empire. he could have teleported out of nowhere and blasted some lame bird-themed villain. heck, i think he's shot Wolverine in the balls before. i'm quite ashamed at what impresses my fellow comic readers sometimes. 10 bucks someone copy and pastes "if you don't like the book, you should just not read it."

[Dusty.]

Well, Strange could be a Skrull who learned the ways of the good doctor, much like somebody in Star Wars would learn the ways of the force.

How are they getting past Wolverine's scent detector and Spidey's spider sense, those are the questions that need to be answered. Whoever the imposter Skrulls are, a credible explanation of how they got away with it for so long has to hold the whole thing up.

I'd say it's a good bet that Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and the baby, are going to play a LARGE roll in this story. May even be central to the whole thing. That's not far fetched, as we all know how Bendis considers them the most precious of his pet characters.

[Dr. Chaos]

Even creepier would be if it was Luke and Jessica's baby, but Skrull Wong ended up pulling out a teat to give it some Skrull milk to turn it into one.
Can Skrulls do that?

I mean, I know we're talking comic books here and everything but that sounds pretty retarded.

[Bulky Brent]

i find Thunderbolts more fun than either. actually i find X-Factor, The Initiative, and Iron Fist more fun as well. has anyone caught on that they've been talking about the same skrull plot for each of these issues Bendis has cranked out? in 3 issues, he hasn't really done anything to get people talking besides float this theory that someone's a skrull. the Hood's debut was lame as hell. Deadpool should make a stab at running the villain empire. he could have teleported out of nowhere and blasted some lame bird-themed villain. heck, i think he's shot Wolverine in the balls before. i'm quite ashamed at what impresses my fellow comic readers sometimes. 10 bucks someone copy and pastes "if you don't like the book, you should just not read it."

Since the upcoming Avengers crossover is based on this Skrull invasion plot it's makes sense to put plenty of speculation in the Avengers books.as for I this entire whos a Skrull thing? I think is adds drama I especially like when Luke Cage was being taken in by own anxiety and it resulted in Spider-Woman switching sides again.Don't forget Echo Elektra killing and Elektra turning out to be s Skrull that was a huge revelation IMO. If that isn't exciting enough then I don't know what is.

As for The Hoods debut appearance in the Avengers book I think he made a pretty good impact due to the fact that the hood is a low class villain.

All these turn of events are going to turn into one big Huge event which very well maybe the crossover event of 2008 evens though Bendis is developing the story slowly.

[Monty_Cristo]

Since the upcoming Avengers crossover is based on this Skrull invasion plot it's makes sense to put plenty of speculation in the Avengers books.as for I this entire whos a Skrull thing? I think is adds drama I especially like when Luke Cage was being taken in by own anxiety and it resulted in Spider-Woman switching sides again.Don't forget Echo Elektra killing and Elektra turning out to be s Skrull that was a huge revelation IMO. If that isn't exciting enough then I don't know what is.

Thor's fight with Iron Man was exciting. Doctor Strange casting his umpteenth "i'm not the traitor" spell + another joke about booties...not so much.

[Will.S]

Deadpool should make a stab at running the villain empire. he could have teleported out of nowhere and blasted some lame bird-themed villain. heck, i think he's shot Wolverine in the balls before.i'm quite ashamed at what impresses my fellow comic readers sometimes.
Deadpool wouldn't work in that role.

But it's nice to know that you've found new ways to take shots at people who enjoy the book.

[Monty_Cristo]

Deadpool wouldn't work in that role.

But it's nice to know that you've found new ways to take shots at people who enjoy the book.

the Hood enjoys this book?

[MAK15]

the Hood enjoys this book?

Im sure he does.

(note current avataar)

[Monty_Cristo]

Im sure he does.

(note current avataar)

yeah, but your avatar is from when he was cool and well-written.

[MAK15]

yeah, but your avatar is from when he was cool and well-written.

youre only saying that cuz ya dont like Bendis.
Im just hopin the next few ish's give Parker some more screen time. although #37 sounds promising.

[Shyft]

yeah, but your avatar is from when he was cool and well-written.

your right, his 6 pages of appearance and 4 lines of dialogue so far have just been whack.


Doctor Strange casting his umpteenth "i'm not the traitor" spell + another joke about booties...not so much

Umpteenth...or second. You know, what ever sounds more sensational.


10 bucks someone copy and pastes "if you don't like the book, you should just not read it."

Ill take that 10. why DO you read it? you KNOW where the story line is going, and what it entails. You KNOW which characters are in it, and what form they are going to take. You KNOW that alot of people like the book, the way its going, and the story-line so far,so you know its not going to change, and yet week on week you INSIST on coming onto pretty much EVERY New Avengers thread and MOANING like a child who isnt getting what they want. You dont even give constructive reasons why you dont like things."The Hoods introduction sucked". great, thanks for the input. Maybe we should sticky it to save everyone time

THINGS MONTY CHRISTO DOESNT LIKE:

Bendis
Skrulls
Bendis
Clint as Ronin
Bendis
Maya Lopez
Bendis
The Hood (despite only appearing in 6 pages across two issues)
Bendis


There, ive just saved you about 3 months worth of posting.

[Monty_Cristo]

your right, his 6 pages of appearance and 4 lines of dialogue so far have just been whack.

well it certainly wasn't impressive.


Umpteenth...or second. You know, what ever sounds more sensational.

the padding must have confused you. we're very early in to New Avengers. he shouldn't already be reusing jokes.

Ill take that 10. why DO you read it?

i read everything. helps me stay current with marvel continuity. also makes my opinion more than speculation.

you KNOW where the story line is going, and what it entails.

unfortunately. i much prefer to be surprised. thank goodness for writers like PAD and Brubaker.

You KNOW that alot of people like the book, the way its going, and the story-line so far,so you know its not going to change,

i blame my christian upbringing. it's all about faith.

and yet week on week you INSIST on coming onto pretty much EVERY New Avengers thread and MOANING like a child who isnt getting what they want.

yet he doesn't give me what i want.

You dont even give constructive reasons why you dont like things.

is that a requirement? you don't give constructive reasons for why i'm wrong, afterall.


THINGS MONTY CHRISTO DOESNT LIKE:

Bendis
Skrulls
Bendis
Clint as Ronin
Bendis
Maya Lopez
Bendis
The Hood (despite only appearing in 6 pages across two issues)
Bendis

that's libel. i love skrulls. and the Hood MAX series was great.

There, ive just saved you about 3 months worth of posting.

you just wasted a post.

[MAK15]

i read everything. helps me stay current with marvel continuity. also makes my opinion more than speculation.



.

seriously?
dude, just go to Wizarduniverse.com every thursday for their water cooler stuff. They spoil everything so you dont have to spend 3 bucks on a comic you dont like.

[Monty_Cristo]

seriously?
dude, just go to Wizarduniverse.com every thursday for their water cooler stuff. They spoil everything so you dont have to spend 3 bucks on a comic you dont like.

i didn't pay a dime. and i do read wizard universe's site. they didn't seem all that impressed either.

[worstblogever]

Can Skrulls do that?

I mean, I know we're talking comic books here and everything but that sounds pretty retarded.
Skrulls have kind of been able to do that. See, after their first appearance, Reed Richards decided the way to get rid of the shape-shifting aliens was to brainwash them into thinking they were ordinary human cows. Then in a Fantastic Four annual, this whole town started acting xenophobic, militaristic, and had begun developing shapeshifting powers similar to the Skrulls after drinking milk that came from the Skrull cows Reed left behind. Here's a link with the full skinny:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/kingscrossingskrull.htm

Notice, the second half of this talks about the Skrull Kill Krew, who also had a weird reaction to eating the "beef" that came from the Skrull cows. Now, in theory, if Skrulls can pose as men or women... why can't one shift into a woman, breast-feed another race's child, and try to slowly change its DNA to turn it into one of its own?

I admit, this is a reach... but so was Reed Richards thinking his cow solution would make the problem go away.

[unkiedev]

Notice, the second half of this talks about the Skrull Kill Krew, who also had a weird reaction to eating the "beef" that came from the Skrull cows. Now, in theory, if Skrulls can pose as men or women... why can't one shift into a woman, breast-feed another race's child, and try to slowly change its DNA to turn it into one of its own?

I admit, this is a reach... but so was Reed Richards thinking his cow solution would make the problem go away.YEAH! Skrull Kill Krew! I wanted that book to be great, but something about the art turned me off, only bought the one issue. Great damn concept, though.

Anyone remember the Mark Waid era Captain America storyline about key government officials being Skrulls? Whateverhappened there? Did Cap weed out the skrullys before passing?

[worstblogever]

Anyone remember the Mark Waid era Captain America storyline about key government officials being Skrulls? Whateverhappened there? Did Cap weed out the skrullys before passing?

I own that issue, and really, upon review Mark Waid just kind of had Cap stop the Skrull impersonating him and he went... "There. That foiled their plan."

And by their plan, Cap seemed to assume that was the WHOLE plan. The wider implications seem to be coming to light now. I miss Cap, and I stated how much of a boob Reed was for the cow idea... does anyone on Earth think straight when they deal with Skrulls? It's no wonder they feel entitled to take our planet. We're practically gift-wrapping it for them.

[Syzygy]

Don't recall if this has been mentioned before, but there was a big scene with Luke Cage buying some milk for his baby from a mini-mart in #28....

[Don Quixote]

Don't recall if this has been mentioned before, but there was a big scene with Luke Cage buying some milk for his baby from a mini-mart in #28....

Was it soy milk? Because that's what Jessica was looking for in the store in Canada when she heard about Cap and Falcon rescuing Luke in NA #22. We know she's not breastfeeding the baby, is there some reason for it to be soy milk, or is it nothing more than personal preference?

[Syzygy]

Was it soy milk? Because that's what Jessica was looking for in the store in Canada when she heard about Cap and Falcon rescuing Luke in NA #22. We know she's not breastfeeding the baby, is there some reason for it to be soy milk, or is it nothing more than personal preference?

Forgive me for not specifying!

I was hypothesizing that Skrull milk could be widely available on the open market!

That would mean that the Skrulls are not merely infiltrating with their own, but actively transmuting large swaths of the public into neo-Skrulls.:eek:

[Shyft]

Maybe Skrull shapeshifting abilities don't allow them to synthesize human milk, what with it being produced by pregnancy hormones, etc.

[Don Quixote]

Forgive me for not specifying!

I was hypothesizing that Skrull milk could be widely available on the open market!

That would mean that the Skrulls are not merely infiltrating with their own, but actively transmuting large swaths of the public into neo-Skrulls.:eek:

Which was why I asked the question. If it was soy milk, the second reference to it, could it perhaps be that it's the vegans who are unknowingly drinking Skrull juice?

[Syzygy]

Which was why I asked the question. If it was soy milk, the second reference to it, could it perhaps be that it's the vegans who are unknowingly drinking Skrull juice?

Okay....

When Cage goes into the minimart (#28) he asks the clerk, "Is vitamin D milk the same as skim milk?" So I'd say he's not talking about soy.

[Sean Whitmore]

The butt kissers line was not directed at anybody (unless they know they kiss Brian's butt), but was a comment made to stress how I think the character is so dulllllllll... that only a dyed in the wool ass smoocher of the writer would consider her otherwise.

That's wonderful. But let's watch you go all ape-poopy when someone applies the same phrase to John Byrne.

If I spent my time defending or standing up for John Byrne whenever he was bashed by some sheepish internet basher who doesn't even know why they are bashing, only repeating the same tired old bashes... I'd never have time to read my Bendis books!

Dusty owes Stonegold a Coke.


SEAN

[Don Quixote]

Okay....

When Cage goes into the minimart (#28) he asks the clerk, "Is vitamin D milk the same as skim milk?" So I'd say he's not talking about soy.

Hmm. Oh well, I kind of liked the idea of vegans gulping down big glasses of Skrull juice.

There's something with the milk, though. I agree it's got to be more than just a 'domestic scene' to remind us that Cage and Jess are parents. Unless Bendis is being paid by the Milk Board, or whoever it is you have over there who comes up with all those 'Got Milk' adverts.

All we ever got here was some Scouse kid not wanting to play for Accrington Stanley. That's the extent of milk advertising.

[shaxberd]

Hmm. Oh well, I kind of liked the idea of vegans gulping down big glasses of Skrull juice.

There's something with the milk, though. I agree it's got to be more than just a 'domestic scene' to remind us that Cage and Jess are parents. Unless Bendis is being paid by the Milk Board, or whoever it is you have over there who comes up with all those 'Got Milk' adverts.

All we ever got here was some Scouse kid not wanting to play for Accrington Stanley. That's the extent of milk advertising.

Newborns drink formula or breast feed, not regular milk. Not that this necessarily means anything.

[orotheoro]

man

jessica sure does curse a lot

[Syzygy]

Newborns drink formula or breast feed, not regular milk. Not that this necessarily means anything.

Agree with your comment. Cage does say he's buying the milk for his baby though. Maybe he should hire you as the kid's man-nanny!

You'd have to clean up poopy diapers and stuff, yeah, but you'd also get to hang out with Strange, Spidey, and the gang.

Worth changing poopy diapers for, I'd say.:D

[HOLD DAT]

good issue.'m new to the NA and doctor strange as a whole...but shouldnt he and wolverine be able to detect a skrull from the get?

and lol @ wolverine in a trench coat with his costume and getting shot in the balls. i see he's still getting his but kicked

[Sean Whitmore]

good issue.'m new to the NA and doctor strange as a whole...but shouldnt he and wolverine be able to detect a skrull from the get?


Under normal circumstances. But the Skrulls have shown in the past to be able to hide more than their appearance when they need to.


SEAN

[Omega Alpha]

good issue.'m new to the NA and doctor strange as a whole...but shouldnt he and wolverine be able to detect a skrull from the get?


Normally, yes, but that's one of the plot points: how the f... did the Skrulls were able to hide from Wolverine and specially Strange? I think Bendis will explain it in the last issue of Illuminati.

[SnakeEater]

What is going on with Mighty avengers. this whole giant story between two books is really cool but its ticking me off that i dont know what book comes out when

[Lanowar]

Normally, yes, but that's one of the plot points: how the f... did the Skrulls were able to hide from Wolverine and specially Strange? I think Bendis will explain it in the last issue of Illuminati.

I suspect it's the idea there using the DNA of the Illuminati to enhance Skrulls. Wolverine idenifies via scent. He knows what Skrulls smell like but if there got the DNA of the person they've replaced then I suspect there using it to fool Wolverine's nose among various other detection methods.

Remember the Skrulls have there own magic users too I suspect in the Marvel Universe it's not terribly hard to combine magic and Strange's DNA to enhance magic defences.

[Lombardo!]

man

jessica sure does curse a lot

lmao

pick up the Alias Omnibus. you'll see why this is truly the understatement of the millenium.

great collection, bendis at his best

[XPac]

Remember the Skrulls have there own magic users too I suspect in the Marvel Universe it's not terribly hard to combine magic and Strange's DNA to enhance magic defences.

That one to me is a bit hard to swallow. I can guy the Skrulls coming up with a way to escape detection magically if Strange isn't specifically trying to find them (like the first spell of intent).

But if Strange is now actively trying to find a way to detect Skrulls, I would think he'd be able to find a way to detect them. Even if Skrulls have sorcerers too, Strange is the sorcerer supreme. He should presumably be better at this than any magical Skrull.

Unless of course, Strange himself is a Skrull.

[Will.S]

lmao

pick up the Alias Omnibus. you'll see why this is truly the understatement of the millenium.

great collection, bendis at his best
If only the Alias Omnibus wasn't in such limited supply.

:(

I seriously hate the limited print runs on certain Omnibuses.

[Clea]

That one to me is a bit hard to swallow. I can guy the Skrulls coming up with a way to escape detection magically if Strange isn't specifically trying to find them (like the first spell of intent).

But if Strange is now actively trying to find a way to detect Skrulls, I would think he'd be able to find a way to detect them. Even if Skrulls have sorcerers too, Strange is the sorcerer supreme. He should presumably be better at this than any magical Skrull.

Unless of course, Strange himself is a Skrull.

I still suspect that the Skrulls stole the real Eye of Agamotto from Strange and replaced it with a fake, back in Illuminati #1. It's the only possible reason that I can think of to explain why he hasn't used it to determine who is/isn't a Skrull. Well... other than the fact fact that Bendis may simply be choosing to ignore that particular item because it would mess up his storyline. This may be why Strange keeps resorting to different spells to reveal the 'truth' about people instead of just using the Eye. And if the Skrulls do have the real Eye, perhaps their priest/sorcerers have found a way to mess around with it so that it now helps them magically shield themselves from Strange.

[Capt USA]

This issue reminded me of why Bendis is so over-rated as a writer. Too many VERY average comics. This was just another in what seems to be an endless stream of forgetable and mediocre comics from him that I spent 3 bucks for. I'm glad it hasn't happened with Mighty Avengers yet.

Is Jessica Jones the most annoyingly BORING character in the history of comics, or what? Seriously, is anybody except Bendis (and his butt kissing fans) really interesting in her to the point that she needs to be a part of this series?

Every time I try to get into this book...Boooom...

5/10


I would argue that spiderwoman, deadpool, cyclops, all surpass her for boringness.

[MAK15]

I would argue that spiderwoman, deadpool, cyclops, all surpass her for boringness.

its all a matter of perspective.

[Shyft]

I would argue that spiderwoman, deadpool, cyclops, all surpass her for boringness.

Deadpool? Dont think you will find many people who will agree with you on that one.

[Capt USA]

Deadpool? Dont think you will find many people who will agree with you on that one.

I actually got the newest issue and it was pretty good, but I don't really even consider it to be canon or anything else. I got Deadpools first appearance and originally liked him, but the writer of the book is such a fanboy that he makes the character about as serious to take as squirrel girl, he's not even funny (most of the time) I just don't like guys writing characters beating characters that they don't belong in the same room, and for deadpool to beat taskmaster twice, (not to mention a crippled moon knight beating him) makes me 100% positive that taskmaster is a skrull.

Deadpool is a joke of a character, who's entire existence is for the writer to thumb his nose at fans of other comic book and characters.

[Sean Whitmore]

Deadpool is a joke of a character, who's entire existence is for the writer to thumb his nose at fans of other comic book and characters.

Do you also wear a tinfoil hat so the government men can't monitor your thoughts?


SEAN

[Capt USA]

Do you also wear a tinfoil hat so the government men can't monitor your thoughts?


SEAN

sorry despise deadpool as written right now. Taskmaster mastering a martial arts has Zero to do with deadpool being unpredictable, a proper stance negates pretty much any predictability issues.

[Sean Whitmore]

sorry despise deadpool as written right now. Taskmaster mastering a martial arts has Zero to do with deadpool being unpredictable, a proper stance negates pretty much any predictability issues.

I can understand not liking Deadpool, I was replying more to the motives you ascribe to the writer.


SEAN

[Capt USA]

I can understand not liking Deadpool, I was replying more to the motives you ascribe to the writer.


SEAN

about the only thing that could explain a writer that goes out of his way to make his main character look better than he really is.

[HotRod_Tim]

After the drudgingly slow pace of the last couple issues, this one seemed to pick up for me. It flowed a little easier and I loved the action sequences between the Hood and Wolvie. I'm hoping that Bendis can keep the ball rolling here. As for Lenil Yu's art...I'm still 50/50 bout it. He has some really good scenes and then he'll completely drop the ball IMO. Clint and Danny look soooo funky mask-less, plus, the awkward super-skinny character panels don't help much either. I'd rather have this book in black-and-white cuz that's where Yu's art is unbelievable, colorless.