Farewell: Cable and Deadpool

[Brian M.]

We knew it was coming. We saw the signs. Yet we didn't wanna believe. Seeing it in print is different then suspecting it'll come, it hurts a little more.

NRAMA: So does this replace Cable & Deadpool on the schedule?

AA: Yes.

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/cable-deadpool/7-1.jpg

I put this cover up becuase no one wants to see the Liefeld covers for the first arc...no one. Zircher was the definitive Cable and Deadpool artist, so he deserves the cover in the memorial thread.

Fabian Nicieza brought us some great stories. The "buddy cop" gimmick with Deadpool seemed destined to fail, but he made it work. He made fans of Cable like Deadpool, he made fans of Deadpool like Cable. We all loved Burnt Offering, fell in love w/ Anaconda and the other obscue characters that would cross paths with these two. The Cat, Black Box, Irene, Six Pack...so many. We had the Captain America issue which gave us some of the best Cable dialogue and purpose for him in years.

This series was the little engine that could, hopefully Fabian will be able to go out with a bang and not a wimper.

Share your favorite CnD moments, scans, lines, recap pages with everyone. This is a sad day for fans of this book. Hopefully Zircher can come back and do the last issue. That'd be fitting.

[Volk1]

Well, it's just goes to show that we Deadpool fans always get the shaft.

And Fabian Nicieza SEEMS to always get snubbed as well. :(


Deadpool isn't a character you can just throw away, so the positive thing for me is that he'll be back somehow.

If Marvel doesn't realize by now that Deadpool has a fanbase, then maybe they're not as smart as I think they are. I


know they won't go bankrupt without a DP book, but if they want to keep some fans happy....then...

[Shonuff]

They had a good run, and gave us some funny exciting stories....But the book was inconsistent.....I'll miss it.

[spidervenom]

This sucks. I still think they should have a antman and deadpool though it be so awesome.

[Don Quixote]

Deadpool for the New Avengers! As long as Nicieza writes it.

Seriously, they must have something planned for him.

[Omega Alpha]

That's a shame. This series made me like Cable, something i never thought possible. The Burnt Offering is one of the greatest stories in any X-book in any time, and #25 one of the best issues of the decade.

[killerbass]

First off, thanks Fabian, Patrick, Reilly, Lan, and the others! It was a hell of a run! (Finish strong!)

I hope Fabian gets some other book at Marvel.

I dunno what else to say, well except that we need Deadpool somewhere...

That is all.

--Tom

:mad:

[frog]

I naturally liked the issue where Deadpool thinks he's joined the X-Men, hurls from the shock, and then sports his hairy legs (while accusing Icemen of ogling them) in Marvel Girl's old uniform.

[1WEBHEAD]

Great, first I lose Ant-Man and now this! :mad:

Why Marvel! :(

Why

[steve2275]

This sucks. I still think they should have a antman and deadpool though it be so awesome.i will agree

[Jase Q]

Great, first I lose Ant-Man and now this! :mad:

Why Marvel! :(

Why

Well considering that he was going to get trampled to death by Hulk (Ant-Man that is)...I think cancellation isnt all that bad :p.

[Nyssane]

As long as I get an Agency X book written by Fabian, I'll be happy.

[Beast]

This sucks for those who are fans of the title.

While I never cared much for it, I feel for those who enjoyed it.

Just hold the warm feeling in your heart that Cable & Deadpool will end with #50.

No small feat for a title that has never sold like gangbusters. It will be missed.

[Fatguy]

Sad news indeed, though glad to see Cable back and in an ongoing. Hopefully we'll be seeing Deadpool again somewhere, and soon.

[KittyPryde]

My sympathies for the fans. It certainly stinks when your fave gets the axe.

This particular book never did much for me (and I did give it a good solid try with about 50% or so of the issues in hand). So while I won't personally miss it much, my sincere condolences to those that loved it. :(

But you just know that Deadpool (and Cable) will be back not too far down the road in some manner (even if separately). Marvel would be crazy to not try to leverage his good popularity somewhere.

[Murrocko]

Give Me Another Deadpool Solo Series Or Agency X Or Give Me Death!!!

[Beast]

Sad news indeed, though glad to see Cable back and in an ongoing. Hopefully we'll be seeing Deadpool again somewhere, and soon.
Jim@Marvel on Bendis' board already confirmed you will...
A few things:

1) these are just 2 of the almost DOZEN changes to come from MESSIAH COMPLEX

2) this is not the end of Deadpool in the Marvel U

3) no, ,I can't answer where Fabian's going next, sorry.

Ok, back to all sorts of mutant meyham...
Plus we've been told that Deadpool will feature in Marvel Comics Presents in the near future.

[Arilou]

Me sad panda :(

[Karl H]

That's a shame. This series made me like Cable, something i never thought possible. The Burnt Offering is one of the greatest stories in any X-book in any time, and #25 one of the best issues of the decade.I never thought I'd agree with you on anything Omega Alpha but in the above quote you've never been more right!

I read the 'death' issue the other day (I trade wait for my C&D) and I did well up. Awesome awesome issue.

Give Me Another Deadpool Solo Series Or Agency X Or Give Me Death!!!

I wanna Bob: Agent of Hydra mini!

[Lanowar]

The X-Force thing looks so damn bizzare...it's annoying C&D was canceled for it then again if C&D is going the way it is then it's really just Deadpool for the last couple of issues.

To be honest I want to see Deadpool guest starring in titles I know he's due to appear in Wolverine Origins but he needs to get a bigger part in the MU.

[asief]

So they cancel a book that made me believe that Nathan Summers is the coolest thing since sliced bread, but they keep Wolverine: Origins?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?:mad:

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Yeah it's sad for Deadpool fans but I have no idea why the continually push Cable like he's a big deal. Didn't get it back in the 90s and sure as hell don't get it now.

[asief]

I didn't think much of Cable until this book came along. I saw him as a robotic Wolverine who later evolved into Wolverine with super-cool powers which he never used. The whole messiah thing just really blew me away. Nate and Wade are from two different worlds yet the somehow relate to each other, it brought a new perspective to the way they saw things. So although I'm sad to see it go, I thank Marvel for using the book as a platform for evolving two great characters

[The Sword Is Drawn]

A shame to see it go, but to be honest Cable has been drifting away from this for a long time. And of course it has consistently been the lowest selling X-Title. A shame. I hope they can find a new home for Deadpool.

[rwsmith]

Surely I can't be the only one who is excited to have the old butt-kicking Cable back!?

Sorry, Brian, but I'm overjoyed by this news. Hopefully Deadpool will get his own series and Fabian can write that. As for Cable, I'm really hoping for someone like Millar or Ellis as the writer. If not someone that high profile, how about an up-and-comer like Christos Gage or Marc Guggenheim?

[Karl H]

I didn't think much of Cable until this book came along. I saw him as a robotic Wolverine who later evolved into Wolverine with super-cool powers which he never used. The whole messiah thing just really blew me away. Nate and Wade are from two different worlds yet the somehow relate to each other, it brought a new perspective to the way they saw things. So although I'm sad to see it go, I thank Marvel for using the book as a platform for evolving two great characters

Are you Kirkman in disguise? And was that the motivation behind Ultimate Cable :p

[The Cool Thatguy]

Cable and Deadpool might not have lit the sales charts on fire, but it was a fine read. It deserved to go out with a bang, not a whimper at the hands of a mandated crossover. It's crap like this that tempts me to leave comics. If Marvel won't show any heart or spirit, why should I keep buying?

[asief]

Are you Kirkman in disguise? And was that the motivation behind Ultimate Cable :p

I don't understand the reference:o

[Brian M.]

I don't understand the reference:o

Over in Ultimate X-Men Robert Kirkman introduced Cable to the series. Cable came from the future and talked about how evil Xavier was and that he must die. Turned out Cable was actually Wolverine, from the future.

[asief]

Oh I get it now. Well 616 Messiah Cable was never crazy, he was a genius. And the things he'd do with his powers made me grateful that whining brat X-Man wasn't around and that Cable could prove that he was just as powerful, just cooler:cool:

[Brian M.]

Oh I get it now. Well 616 Messiah Cable was never crazy, he was a genius. And the things he'd do with his powers made me grateful that whining brat X-Man wasn't around and that Cable could prove that he was just as powerful, just cooler:cool:

Yea Providence was a great idea and I really wish more of the MU could have played a role in it.

[asief]

TOTALLY AGREE!!! This was something on a global scale but it was only mentioned in their own book and once Cable joined Rogue's squad. Some powerful people really feared Cable but you wouldn't know that unless you read this book. Such a pity, imagine what they could've done with Providence next year with Secret Invasion considering how Fury and Cable parted, Fury may have had to go to Nathan begging for help

[Brian M.]

TOTALLY AGREE!!! This was something on a global scale but it was only mentioned in their own book and once Cable joined Rogue's squad. Some powerful people really feared Cable but you wouldn't know that unless you read this book. Such a pity, imagine what they could've done with Providence next year with Secret Invasion considering how Fury and Cable parted, Fury may have had to go to Nathan begging for help

Oh yea, if Cap hadn't died, his connection to Providence could be brought up. Coulda been his sanctuary for unregistered heros.

[Keith_Martineau]

I LOVE Cable/Deadpool, but I've been buying it in TPB. Like most, I thought Burnt Offering was completely awesome. I didn't even view C&D as an X-book. Burnt Offering wasn't just an awesome x-story, it was an awesome MU story.

So I'm sorry to see it go, but the title had one hell of a run. It's gone longer than anything Chris Claremont has been able to do lately, as far as single book runs go. So it was fun while it lasted.

[asief]

Oh yea, if Cap hadn't died, his connection to Providence could be brought up. Coulda been his sanctuary for unregistered heros.

...or Wade and Bea Arthur's lovenest:p

(I still don't know who or what Bea Arthur is but knowing Deadpool, it''s gotta be gross)

[rwsmith]

TOTALLY AGREE!!! This was something on a global scale but it was only mentioned in their own book and once Cable joined Rogue's squad. Some powerful people really feared Cable but you wouldn't know that unless you read this book. Such a pity, imagine what they could've done with Providence next year with Secret Invasion considering how Fury and Cable parted, Fury may have had to go to Nathan begging for help

I could still see Fury going to him and begging for help with the Skrulls. Especially since Alonso seems to want to push the character to the forefront of the X-men Universe. It only makes sense that he'll be higher profile in the next big Marvel Universe crossover as well.

Personally I hope he ends up leading one of the other two X-men teams too (Astonishing or Uncanny), provided they're still around after Messiah Complex, that is.

I do have to wonder about Axel's comments regarding which version of Cable this is: past, present or future. Not sure what he means by that, but I do like that this book is going to be "required reading" for X-fans (or whatever he said along those lines). That at least lets me know that the book won't be set in some alternate future where no one will care what happens (a la Bishop's last solo series).

Looking forward to learning more about Axel's plans for Cable.

[DarkCrisis]

I'd rather have a Deadpool book. Cable is boring.

And the new X-Force lookslike a dumb team. Guns and blades for everyone!

[Brian M.]

I'd rather have a Deadpool book. Cable is boring.

And the new X-Force lookslike a dumb team. Guns and blades for everyone!

This isn't a thread about what'd you like to have you halfwit, it's about talking the book that just cancelled, if you didn't like the damn thing stay the hell out and don't ruin it w/ your god damn negativity about one of the title characters.

[DarkCrisis]

This isn't a thread about what'd you like to have you halfwit, it's about talking the book that just cancelled, if you didn't like the damn thing stay the hell out and don't ruin it w/ your god damn negativity about one of the title characters.

I liked C/D cause Deadpool carried it. It was hilarious. Cable was a dead weight though and is the symbol of everything that was wrong with 90's comics.

PS Bite me.

[asief]

Can't we all just be friends :(

(the sad emoticon doesn't look for grief-inspiring to me:evilangry )

[DaeJi]

Gahh!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo!

Damn you Marvel, damn you and your black heart!

:( Why can't we have fun anymore T_T

[Beast]

Gahh!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo!

Damn you Marvel, damn you and your black heart!

:( Why can't we have fun anymore T_T
You can. There's always X-Men: First Class and the Marvel Adventures titles.

[Brian M.]

I liked C/D cause Deadpool carried it. It was hilarious. Cable was a dead weight though and is the symbol of everything that was wrong with 90's comics.

PS Bite me.

That's nice. Still, get out.

[Bic]

When C&D was first announced it seemed like a concept that made no sense and a comic that had no reason to exist. But over the course of its run Nicieza and company managed to make it into a fun story about the growth of an unlikely friendship. It was great while it lasted and I will miss the comic once it is gone.

[Nyssane]

Oh, and just so you know, BRIAN... I loved Anaconda far before her appearances in Cable & Deadpool!!!1

[Brian M.]

Oh, and just so you know, BRIAN... I loved Anaconda far before her appearances in Cable & Deadpool!!!1

I know, but it made other folks love her too. I didn't know who she was until the Six Pack came to Providence. She was one of the more entertaining members.

[rwsmith]

I'd rather have a Deadpool book. Cable is boring.

And the new X-Force lookslike a dumb team. Guns and blades for everyone!

Yeah, guns and knives are teh gay. Why would anyone want to use a weapon that people use in real life when they can defeat people with the sum totality of their psychic powers?:rolleyes:

Sorry, but I don't mind the weapons. Perhaps Cable doesn't have his powers anymore so he needs them? And if I had heightened strength and speed like Warpath I'd probably carry a weapon too, just in case I go up against someone stronger. After all, people in the real world use weapons to give them an edge, so why not mutants? Makes sense to me.

[pariah-1972]

Tis a sad day in hell:(
i would like to hope that they are only canceling it cause Cable is supposedly dead.( tho of course we still have a Captain America ongoing)
this book reminded me of why i got into comics in the first place.:mad:
I hope they do something new and totally awesome with Deadpool and Fabian was the only person who actually made me like Cable.
(please dont throw stones at me Cable fans i just never cared that much for him):o

[Nyssane]

I know, but it made other folks love her too. I didn't know who she was until the Six Pack came to Providence. She was one of the more entertaining members.

Awww, you love Anaconda! You actually like one of those C-Listers you're always complaining about. :D

[Don Quixote]

After all, people in the real world use weapons to give them an edge, so why not mutants? Makes sense to me.

One of the main reasons people fear mutants is because they are weapons. Warpath shouldn't need those toothpicks to do his job.

If you want knives and guns, isn't The Punisher the logical place for them?

Anyway, I was just getting into Cable & Deadpool. I avoided it for a long time because of the charisma vacuum that is Cable, but found that he actually wasn't as annoying as I'd feared, and Deadpool more than made up for it.

I don't really think much of the idea of Deadpool in a team book. He's at his best when he's self-aware and talking to the reader. That wouldn't work so well on a book where he's not the title character, I don't think.

[rwsmith]

But what's wrong with him using them? Warpath certainly isn't a weapon in the same sense that Cyclops or Havok are. He's just a lot faster and stronger than a normal guy. Why shouldn't he carry some blades in case he needs them?

[Don Quixote]

But what's wrong with him using them? Warpath certainly isn't a weapon in the same sense that Cyclops or Havok are. He's just a lot faster and stronger than a normal guy. Why shouldn't he carry some blades in case he needs them?

Which is another issue I have with this book. One of the things I alway liked about the mutants was that their powers were so varied. It was so different from the Avengers and all their superstrength/flight/giants, with little difference between them.

That's what this book looks like. A group of people with little to distinguish them from each other. It's barely an X-book at all.

I think an example of what I mean was in Civil War #1, where they're all searching for survivors in Stamford. Ms Marvel, She-Hulk, Goliath, Pym and others are all lugging rocks about, trying to clear it, and Marvel Girl just shifts a massive pile of rubble with nothing more than a flick of her mind. I don't know, I just like that type of power more than the physical, Avengers type powers.

Anyway, none of that was about my favourite psychotic mercenary. So I'll say he's one of the few characters who didn't bore me with his kung-fu, knives and guns stuff. And I hope he will continue to not bore me whenever he turns up next.

[Steven F.]

As long as I get an Agency X book written by Fabian, I'll be happy.

Edited....

[Nyssane]

Sooo not gonna happen. Sorry to say for the fans.

Well, if I don't get Agency X OR Mike Carey on a good book with characters I like, it seems as though I won't be reading comics regularly once again. :( I'll have to wait for any of my gals or guyz to appear again...

[Steven F.]

Well, if I don't get Agency X OR Mike Carey on a good book with characters I like, it seems as though I won't be reading comics regularly once again. :( I'll have to wait for any of my gals or guyz to appear again...

Edited....

[Nyssane]

First one isn't happening, second will depend on what you consider a good book with characters you like. :(

Well, if Anaconda gets her own mini, I might be persuaded to read more comics.

[Sentinel K]

What's really annoying is Alonso's short, sharp answer.

"Yes".

I think as a fan of the series who has bought every issue since the beginning, i deserve a bit more than that.

What a c***.

[Brian M.]

What's really annoying is Alonso's short, sharp answer.

"Yes".

I think as a fan of the series who has bought every issue since the beginning, i deserve a bit more than that.

What a c***.

I agree. Not a damn word from him on this book, no one at Marvel really seems to give a shit about it. I know I sound like a whiny fanboy but hell, Ant-Man, She-Hulk all get atleast a mention when they end, Spider-Girl...but Cable and Deadpool...notta.

[Frodo-X]

This blows.

[Jake V]

I'd rather have a Deadpool book. Cable is boring.

And the new X-Force lookslike a dumb team. Guns and blades for everyone!

There were guns in the promo images?

Musta missed them.

wait, I didn't. Because they weren't there.

[Jake V]

I agree. Not a damn word from him on this book, no one at Marvel really seems to give a shit about it. I know I sound like a whiny fanboy but hell, Ant-Man, She-Hulk all get atleast a mention when they end, Spider-Girl...but Cable and Deadpool...notta.

Clearly, your only option at this point is to write a letter to marvel where you pretend to be a little girl saying how sad you are that Deadpool isn't getting his own book anymore.

[Brian M.]

Clearly, your only option at this point is to write a letter to marvel where you pretend to be a little girl saying how sad you are that Deadpool isn't getting his own book anymore.

No, b/c I refuse to sound anymore like a whiny little girl. Deadpool is going over to MCP, Cable's getting a solo again. Nothing I can do.

[Sentinel K]

I agree. Not a damn word from him on this book, no one at Marvel really seems to give a shit about it. I know I sound like a whiny fanboy but hell, Ant-Man, She-Hulk all get atleast a mention when they end, Spider-Girl...but Cable and Deadpool...notta.

It seems that Alonso hated this book from the start. It never got any press or promotion, even though it had a dedicated fanbase and was selling consistant numbers.

It seems that marvel will promote the hell out of stuff that is guaranteed to sell anyway (anything by Bendis or JMS) but for the stuff that actually NEEDS promoting they can't be bothered and then cancel it when its sales aren't good enough (ant-man I'm looking at YOU!).

Marvel's advertising department needs a kick up the arse.

[1WEBHEAD]

This and The Irredeemable Ant-Man were my "Dan Slott's Thing" and "X-men First class"

Why is Marvel so afraid of loving me?:(

[Brian M.]

This and The Irredeemable Ant-Man were my "Dan Slott's Thing" and "X-men First class"

Why is Marvel so afraid of loving me?:(

Now you can pick up First Class.

[Beast]

Now you can pick up First Class.
Exactly. When the Marvel Gods close a door, they open a window. :D

[Frodo-X]

It seems that Alonso hated this book from the start. It never got any press or promotion, even though it had a dedicated fanbase and was selling consistant numbers.

It seems that marvel will promote the hell out of stuff that is guaranteed to sell anyway (anything by Bendis or JMS) but for the stuff that actually NEEDS promoting they can't be bothered and then cancel it when its sales aren't good enough (ant-man I'm looking at YOU!).

Marvel's advertising department needs a kick up the arse.
This became painfully obvious when it had a fairly important crossover with X-men that was promoted...absolutely nowhere.

[Frodo-X]

Exactly. When the Marvel Gods close a door, they open a window. :D
But...I was already using the door and the window.

Now all I can do is look out the window while I walk into the brick wall where my door used to be.

[1WEBHEAD]

Now you can pick up First Class.

I picked up the original mini and while it was pretty good, I thought I could've spent my money more wisely with other Marvel books that tickle my fancy.

It's a bit too "happy endingish" Almost every last page of the original mini ended with everybody showing off their pearly whites.

[Chiasm]

:(

Neither character did much for me back when they were first introduced. Lets just say Liefeld and leave it at that.

So I didn't buy this book when it first came out. Then Civil War came along and since it was part of the crossover I picked up the issue where Deadpool fought the GLA and laughed my ass off. And thoroughly enjoyed the book. There are so few comics on the market that I thoroughly enjoy - I think I'm like many fans that just keep buying certain books out of habit.

C&D instantly hooked me and it soon became my favorite book each and every month. And to be honest its Deadpool that I care most about since the book has been Cable lite ever since Civil War. If Marvel was dropping this in favor of an ongoing Deadpool series by Fabian I'd be happy. As is though I'm quite sad.

[Crimson]

I agree. Not a damn word from him on this book, no one at Marvel really seems to give a shit about it. I know I sound like a whiny fanboy but hell, Ant-Man, She-Hulk all get atleast a mention when they end, Spider-Girl...but Cable and Deadpool...notta.

Of course it's been announced one day... and everything is still under wraps. For all we know we could be getting a Deadpool ongoing.

And I think you're forgetting that they just stoped soliciting Spider-Girl last time, maybe Antman too and it was only mentioned when the fans brought it up.

[Steven F.]

Marvel has a new direction in mind for the characters. Cable and Deadpool have a stable, 20+ thousand fan base, but....in all honestly, have become joke characters. I imagine Marvel wants to push them up to viable characters again, and it can't happen in the Cable and Deadpool book.

[Sam T.]

Can't wait to see where Deadpool ends up next!

[riftt]

Picked up the first trade, didn't like it. Waay too slapstick and obvious humor that fell flat. Looking forward to a more serious ongoing cable title.

[Murrocko]

Sooo not gonna happen. Sorry to say for the fans.

How do you know this for sure?

[DaeJi]

Marvel has a new direction in mind for the characters. Cable and Deadpool have a stable, 20+ thousand fan base, but....in all honestly, have become joke characters. I imagine Marvel wants to push them up to viable characters again, and it can't happen in the Cable and Deadpool book.

Why can't we have joke character? What is so bad with having characters around who are just fun and thankfully missing all the angst and depression and whatnot of the more "serious" characters. Just because a character is more fun than serious doesn't mean anything is wrong with them; do we really need another Penance?

[slugzilla]

Maybe Deadpool will end up in X-Factor... Finally get the chance to mess up that Madrox guy for screwin' around with Theresa...

[DaeJi]

Maybe Deadpool will end up in X-Factor... Finally get the chance to mess up that Madrox guy for screwin' around with Theresa...

Maybe dreams really will come true... I just hope X-Factor is still around after Messiah CompleX, as it looks like Wolfbane will be in X-Force (I really hope I'm wrong on that front :(; why must they mess with perfection?)

[Siddon]

Well Cable and Deadpool is over, I am happy to see it go out at 50, honestly I felt the book dragged on at points, it got its mojo back but that was at the cost of Civil War, Cable's death, Deadpool's contiunity. Really this is a move to launch MCP, I have full confidence that Deadpool will get a new series very soon.

[Deadpooligan]

Deadpool and Fabes are both MIA after this, and Cable gets an ongoing?

After all that [co-]carrying Deadpool did on their book? After the scaled difference in fanbase?

I say boycott! BOYCOTT CABLE! BOYCOTT IT UNTIL DEADPOOL [OR AGENCY X] GETS AN ONGOING!

It's rightly fair! Then, buy both.

[Dirkner]

No deadpool makes me very very sad inside.

Why, oh why!

[MikeVic]

Man, I started reading somewhere around issue 30 and really enjoyed it. One of my favs right now, and Deadpool has become a fav character.

Does anyone know where I can buy miscellaneous Deadpool merchandise? Like a keychain or something? I tried ebay and marvel.com, but couldn't find anything.

[_Jayme_]

Sucks cause I just started picking it up, but I'm glad Cable will be getting a new book. Better do him justice.

[Blade X]

Deadpool and Fabes are both MIA after this, and Cable gets an ongoing?

After all that [co-]carrying Deadpool did on their book? After the scaled difference in fanbase?

I say boycott! BOYCOTT CABLE! BOYCOTT IT UNTIL DEADPOOL [OR AGENCY X] GETS AN ONGOING!

It's rightly fair! Then, buy both.

Trust me, you don't have to ask people to boycott this new CABLE series. It will be canceled by issue 12.

[Pach!]

Trust me, you don't have to ask people to boycott this new CABLE series. It will be canceled by issue 12.

Not a chance.

[Fatguy]

Maybe dreams really will come true... I just hope X-Factor is still around after Messiah CompleX, as it looks like Wolfbane will be in X-Force (I really hope I'm wrong on that front :(; why must they mess with perfection?)


I agree, I'm a little worried that X-Factor wont be around after the whole...thing.

If it IS still around, Deadpool being on the team is a fantastic idea! Peter David doing DP would be great, as would his interactions with Guido and Madrox.

[Brian M.]

Trust me, you don't have to ask people to boycott this new CABLE series. It will be canceled by issue 12.

Just like Cable and Deadpool was too...ironic.

[rwsmith]

Trust me, you don't have to ask people to boycott this new CABLE series. It will be canceled by issue 12.

I'd be willing to bet that it debuts somewhere between 80-100K and stabilizes in the mid 60K range like Wolverine Origins has.

[Omega Alpha]

I'd be willing to bet that it debuts somewhere between 80-100K and stabilizes in the mid 60K range like Wolverine Origins has.

I think it will sell well, but your hopes are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too high.

[jamartwork]

I know it worked for Spider Girl like a million times. I would love to lead the charge if people were interested and there has to be a way to contact Fabian to get him involved somehow. He created and loves Wade and has to be able to help save the the character somehow.

[Fatguy]

I know it worked for Spider Girl like a million times. I would love to lead the charge if people were interested and there has to be a way to contact Fabian to get him involved somehow. He created and loves Wade and has to be able to help save the the character somehow.


Problem is, with so much revamping going on, how does anybody know he needs to be "saved"?

At this point, who knows what's going to happen with the character.

[Karl H]

Here's my theory behind the cancellation:

The one word answer - movies.

The longer explaination:

I think they're building up Deadpool with a view to a 'comedic' action movie being launched in the next few years. Ryan Reynolds has already expressed an interest and Marvel appear to have been farming their character base pretty extensively in recent years.

Cable, given his backstory is never going to make a movie on his own.

Therefore, split the two to allow a Deadpool push?

Thoughts, ideas, etc are all welcome.

[DasPoppen]

I'd be willing to bet that it debuts somewhere between 80-100K and stabilizes in the mid 60K range like Wolverine Origins has.

I think you seriously overestimate the appeal of the character and the strength of its fan base. I would predict initial sales of around 60k and stabilised sales of max 35k. Putting an A-list writer on the book might raise the numbers, though.

And yes, sad to see Deadpool disappearing in limbo. At least Fabian is giving him a good farewell with an extended Tour de Marvel and loads of A-list guest stars

[rwsmith]

Not sure who the writer will end up being, but I doubt it's a superstar. Probably more of an up-and-comer like Gage, Guggenheim or Fraction. I do think that a return to Cable's former grittiness plus some beautiful Olivetti artwork will be enough to sustain sales in the 60K range, though. Especially if what Axel says is true about this title being "required reading" for X-fans or something like that. Sounds like he plans to make Cable very important to the X-Universe, which will certainly help sales on the book IMO.

And if Thor can be the #1 book the month his new title debuted, then I'd say the same could certainly happen for Cable.

[Rollo_Tomasi]

I think its too early to start a "Save Deadpool" campaign...we don't even know for sure what Marvel is going to do with him after C&D is over.

I will say that Axel Alonso also has a huge interest in Wade, so that might mean an ongoing.

[Brian M.]

A Cable movie wouldn't be that hard to do. While the credits roll in the beginning show Scott giving up Nathan to Askani in order to save him. Then show him being raised in a montage type thing, show him being trained to fight, show him becoming a soldier, much like they did in 300. Make it known that b/c of the times this is how it has to be. Then show him leading a squad against Apoc. If you want to make it in present day, have him follow someone back in time, be it Apoc himself or some other threat. Movie.

[Omega Alpha]

And if Thor can be the #1 book the month his new title debuted, then I'd say the same could certainly happen for Cable.

It became #1 after more than one year of hype, with JMS writing, and with everyone wanting to know his reaction to CW, Clor, etc. Plus, Thor is just more popular.

[Lanowar]

I assume the series has up to issue 50 before it becomes X-Force?

He's got a story in Marvel Comics Presents and a guest apperance in Wolverine Origins.

Deadpool despite people saying his stuff never last has been in comics in some form since The Circle Chase.

Circle Chase
Sins Of The Past
Solo Series
Agent X
Identity Disc
Cable & Deadpool

There might have been a month or two between them but he's not actually been Limbo like say... The Taskmaster was for a bit.

[Beast]

It's not becoming X-Force. It's being cancelled. But yeah, it should end at #50.

November - Cable & Deadpool #47
December - Cable & Deadpool #48
January - Cable & Deadpool #49
Febuary - Cable & Deadpool #50

I have a feeling they may double ship an issue in December or January.

That way they can end Cable & Deadpool with a special #50 issue.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Its a damn shame Marvel's short changing the fans of Deadpool yet again. I admit I never really bought the series but I love the character and enjoyed the Joe Kelly series.

It sucks they are ending a series that will hit #50 soon. But thats Marvel. If they could rush ass backwards to what came before they would. I feel so sad by this....no monthly Deadpool book for anyone.

[Nyssane]

A Cable movie wouldn't be that hard to do. While the credits roll in the beginning show Scott giving up Nathan to Askani in order to save him. Then show him being raised in a montage type thing, show him being trained to fight, show him becoming a soldier, much like they did in 300. Make it known that b/c of the times this is how it has to be. Then show him leading a squad against Apoc. If you want to make it in present day, have him follow someone back in time, be it Apoc himself or some other threat. Movie.

Blah, IMO the futuristic storylines have no place in the movies.

[Pro]

While the credits roll in the beginning show Scott giving up Nathan to Askani in order to save him.

How would Scott give up Nathan when his girlfriend died after killing him?

If they'd want a Cable movie within current x-men movie continuity it would definitely have to be done differently, most likely being preceded by a 4th x-men movie in which Phoenix turns out to be Jean's clone and Scott having been saved by Sinister from the Jean clone who escaped his clutches after he created her.

It would make some sense that phoenix was not Jean Grey herself given that suddenly her mental blocks were missing. But if Phoenix was a clone then it would make sense she lacked the artificial mental blocks Xavier placed in Jean's mind. X-men 3 left it wide open as to why Jean survived exactly and where she was during the time she was gone and also left it wide open what happened to Scott.

At the end of x-men 4 they could show Sinister working on combining Jean and Scott's DNA to create Cable. They then could show Sinister's reasons for creating a mutant superweapon as they reveal Apocalypse in X-men 5 and possibly bring in a timetraveling Summers kid, the grown up result of Sinister's machinations. :)

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k318/nightowlarts/x-menapocalypse1.jpg

Even then i'd prefer to see Rachel rather than Cable. I like both characters but Rachel was the original timetraveling Summers.

[Brian M.]

The movie could be set before the X-Men, it doesn't really have to require much explanation.

[Beast]

Its a damn shame Marvel's short changing the fans of Deadpool yet again. I admit I never really bought the series but I love the character and enjoyed the Joe Kelly series.

It sucks they are ending a series that will hit #50 soon. But thats Marvel. If they could rush ass backwards to what came before they would. I feel so sad by this....no monthly Deadpool book for anyone.
Unless you're ignoring the info, there are plans for Deadpool in the MU.

First he'll be featured in Marvel Comics Presents.

And there have been rumors of a solo for the character for a while.

[Pro]

The movie could be set before the X-Men, it doesn't really have to require much explanation.

I suppose so but i wouldn't really like it if they went that way. Seems kinda cheap and way too easy. Granted Cable has a complex past that doesn't really fit in the framework of a movie but setting up his origin as a prequel event just doesn't tickle my fancy.

Alternatively I could see them using Cable as a distant future relative rather than a direct descendant of Jean and Scott.

Anyway, i doubt we'll ever see a Cable movie since x-franchise movie writers are not likely to use timetraveling as a plot element.

[Nyssane]

I hope Anaconda makes a cameo before the series ends. :(

[Doom Hammer]

Even though I was quite soured on it recently, it was still a fantastic book that deserves a lot more respect than it was given. (Axel's response really did piss me off. This book's been running for, what, like four years? And he blows off the dedicated fanbase with a one-word cancellation? No congrats to Fabian and crew for making this book last for about ten times longer than anyone thought it would? Fuck that.)

I'm still hopeful this will lead to a Deadpool solo, and they can do it the right way, from the beginning. No fugly Liefeld covers kicking off the series, some promotion, a high-profile (or how about just steady?) artist, that kind of stuff. I hear Ed McGuinness is doing Marvel work...;)

Anyway, I have zero interest in Cable's X-Force or his shoulder pad. I barely have any attachment to the X-books anymore. All this event stuff is really alienating to someone who follows the books casually.

[Sentinel K]

I know dude. I found that it majorly rude and dismissive of all the hard work that the creative team put into the title for FIFTY DAMN ISSUES!

That's a pretty awesome achievement in todays cancellation climate.

F*** Alonso. Way to be an asshole.

[Brian M.]

I know dude. I found that it majorly rude and dismissive of all the hard work that the creative team put into the title for FIFTY DAMN ISSUES!

That's a pretty awesome achievement in todays cancellation climate.

F*** Alonso. Way to be an asshole.

I really hope he does an X-Position here soon, if he does, you can damn well bet the questions I'll be asking.

[ClanAskani]

Even though I was quite soured on it recently, it was still a fantastic book that deserves a lot more respect than it was given. (Axel's response really did piss me off. This book's been running for, what, like four years? And he blows off the dedicated fanbase with a one-word cancellation? No congrats to Fabian and crew for making this book last for about ten times longer than anyone thought it would? Fuck that.)

Totally. I can't believe how poorly Fabe and C/DP have been treated in all of this. It's been clear that Axel Alonso doesn't like C/DP, but it's like it's being unceremonious dumped in the trash. This gives me absolutely no confidence in the new Cable title and little hope that it might be good.

[Matthew K.]

Goodbye C+DP

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NmEIeh4Fv2M

[gravling]

wasn't this kind of an inevitability?

[Brian M.]

wasn't this kind of an inevitability?

Yea...doesn't mean we can't be sad about it.

[Carencey]

While I'm kinda glad Cable is finally getting the spotlight, I have to admit Cable and Deadpool has been completely shafted and I feel bad for the fans and Fabian.


Blah, IMO the futuristic storylines have no place in the movies.

Cable would work in a movie. Time traveling is used all the time in movies.
He worked fine in the cartoon, even though that wasn't exactly accurate to the comic.

[MikeVic]

I have almost cut all main Marvel books out of my reading list... I hate when stuff happens in another comic that affects the one I'm reading.

So no one knows of a place I can get Deadpool merchandise? Keychains, etc...?

[Tazirai]

Man sad to see it go. Was a pretty fun read for awhile.

[Craig T. Nelson]

So no one knows of a place I can get Deadpool merchandise? Keychains, etc...?
I'm pretty certain Marvel doesn't make any Deadpool merchandise.

This is sad, this comic got me back into comics. Oh well, leave it up to another comic ten years from now to do the same.

[Dr. Chaos]

As a huge Deadpool fanboy and tool, I gotta be honest with you guys, this scares the living hell out of me.

I sure as hell know I'll fall over dead before I follow a solo Cable book...no offense to buddy cop Cable from C&DP of course but without the duo dynamic, I have no interest in him.

[Blade X]

I know dude. I found that it majorly rude and dismissive of all the hard work that the creative team put into the title for FIFTY DAMN ISSUES!

That's a pretty awesome achievement in todays cancellation climate.

F*** Alonso. Way to be an asshole.

I agree.

I said it before, and I'll say it again. There's a double standard when it comes to how certain writers are treated at BOTH Marvel and DC these days. The cancellation of C&D and him being kicked off of T-bolts is proof of that. For example, C&D and T-bolts, while not huge sellers, sold CONSISTENTLY better then books writen by creators who were either popular and/or critically acclaimed. And yet, Marvel rewards Fabian by either canceling his book or taking him off of a book.

[Matthew K.]

As a huge Deadpool fanboy and tool, I gotta be honest with you guys, this scares the living hell out of me.

I sure as hell know I'll fall over dead before I follow a solo Cable book...no offense to buddy cop Cable from C&DP of course but without the duo dynamic, I have no interest in him.

Seems kinda beat that he's getting a solo book after the fall.

With that & X-Force coming out (again relaunched) it's reminscent of the 90's when there were "too many X-Books."

[Agent_Torpor]

Am I the only one here who wont miss C&DP in the least?

[Brian M.]

Am I the only one here who wont miss C&DP in the least?

If you don't read it, why the fuck do you care if it's cancelled? Some folks liked that book. You didn't obviously, that's cool, your choice. But what a stupid question to ask in a thread like this.

[Omega Alpha]

I agree.

I said it before, and I'll say it again. There's a double standard when it comes to how certain writers are treated at BOTH Marvel and DC these days. The cancellation of C&D and him being kicked off of T-bolts is proof of that. For example, C&D and T-bolts, while not huge sellers, sold CONSISTENTLY better then books writen by creators who were either popular and/or critically acclaimed. And yet, Marvel rewards Fabian by either canceling his book or taking him off of a book.

No, they weren't. Cable & Deadpool was now the book that sold less set in the 616 continuity. And Thunderbolts was selling more or less the same thing when Ellis took over. I love C&D, but yes, it was selling poorly, which is a shame, but i can understand why Marvel is cancelling it.

[kate-pryde]

It's not like Marvel tried to help increase Cable & Deadpool's sales.

Everyone remember this from Publisher's Weekly:


This is a two-part crossover with X-MEN, not that you’d know it from Marvel’s promotion. I can’t understand what they were thinking here; if they’d told people what was actually in the book, they’d have sold thousands more copies. It’s not like Marvel to throw away money like this.

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/07/19/marvel-month-to-month-sales-june-2007/



So, why did Marvel throw away money? Because they wanted a reason to cancel Cable & Deadpool?

If Marvel wanted Cable & Deadpool to sell well, it could. But it was a forgone conclusion that it was being canceled, so Marvel was determined for the sales figures to support that conclusion.

It's the same thing that Robert Weinberg complained Marvel did to justify firing him after Joe Quesada and Bill Jemas decided they wanted Cable to go in a completely different direction despite the fact Cable was selling very well and Weinberg was developing a cult-like following. No promotion, sales decrease, creative team fired.

[Omega Alpha]

It's not like Marvel tried to help increase Cable & Deadpool's sales.

Everyone remember this from Publisher's Weekly:



So, why did Marvel throw away money? Because they wanted a reason to cancel Cable & Deadpool?

If Marvel wanted Cable & Deadpool to sell well, it could. But it was a forgone conclusion that it was being canceled, so Marvel was determined for the sales figures to support that conclusion.

It's the same thing that Robert Weinberg complained Marvel did to justify firing him after Joe Quesada and Bill Jemas decided he wanted Cable to go in a completely different direction despite the fact Cable was selling very well. No promotion, sales decrease, creative team fired.

Oh, i agree that Marvel could have promoted it more, specially the crossover. However, it was in fact selling poorly.

[kate-pryde]

Oh, i agree that Marvel could have promoted it more, specially the crossover. However, it was in fact selling poorly.

Not during Civil War. And who knows how much more it would have sold had they promoted the X-crossover with Cable's "death".


These are the sales figures for the past year:

07/06 Cable & Deadpool #30 - 59,333 (+133.9%)
08/06 Cable & Deadpool #31 - 59,804 ( +0.8%)
09/06 Cable & Deadpool #32 - 60,177 ( +0.6%)
10/06 Cable & Deadpool #33 - 30,741 ( -48.9%)
11/06 Cable & Deadpool #34 - 29,144 ( -5.2%)
12/06 Cable & Deadpool #35 - 27,785 ( -4.7%)
01/07 Cable & Deadpool #36 - 26,803 ( -3.5%)
02/07 Cable & Deadpool #37 - 26,588 ( -0.8%)
03/07 Cable & Deadpool #38 - 26,258 ( -1.2%)
04/07 Cable & Deadpool #39 - 26,110 ( -0.6%)
05/07 Cable & Deadpool #40 - 26,120 ( +0.0%)
06/07 Cable & Deadpool #41 - 27,431 ( +5.0%)
06/07 Cable & Deadpool #42 - 27,203 ( -0.8%)
07/07 Cable & Deadpool #43 - 26,341 ( -3.2%)
6 mnth ( -1.7%)
1 year ( -55.6%)
2 year ( -23.4%)
3 year ( -19.2%)

Marvel did nothing to build on the increased readership from Civil War. Cable was gone for long periods. And then the X-crossover was no promoted at all. There weren't even previews released for some issues.

Last fall when Alonso took over as X-Group editor he said his goal was a Cable solo title, and Cable & Deadpool's cancellation might as well have been announced then.

It the situation with Weinberg all over again.

[Lombardo!]

well i know where DP's next stop will be

the GLI's hangout. you dont get 'reserve status' and not flaunt it.

hopefully Ant-Man and Black Fox will join up too

[The Cool Thatguy]

Oh, i agree that Marvel could have promoted it more, specially the crossover. However, it was in fact selling poorly.

I suspect that the crossover was meant to help kill the book, hence why it wasn't heavily promoted (if at all).

I can understand killing the book, but it really irks me how they wouldn't let Fabe settle his plots. Some random alien destroys the island (that had been, up until that moment the title's biggest running subplot), Gambit and Sunfire come out of nowhere to kill Cable and then Deadpool limps along to cancelled land. Meanwhile, Cable didn't even stay 'dead' until the crossover that killed him was over!

[Nyssane]

well i know where DP's next stop will be

the GLI's hangout. you dont get 'reserve status' and not flaunt it.

hopefully Ant-Man and Black Fox will join up too

I wanna see Deadpool and Agency X vs. the Great Lakes Avengers! :D That battle would be HILAIR.

[Blade X]

No, they weren't. Cable & Deadpool was now the book that sold less set in the 616 continuity. And Thunderbolts was selling more or less the same thing when Ellis took over. I love C&D, but yes, it was selling poorly, which is a shame, but i can understand why Marvel is cancelling it.

C&D and T-bolts (when Fabe was writing it) sold better then RUNAWAYS (before Wheedon came onto the book),SHE-HULK (before the relaunch),and NEXTWAVE (which is canceled, and yes, I know it's supposed to be out of continuity). And while the cancelation of NEXTWAVE may disprove my point, it should be noted that Marvel has gone on record as saying that they would LOVE to see Ellis return to writing a NEXTWAVE book again and that he can do so whenever he wants.

[madrox1977]

Sadly can see our favorite merc being relegated to minor appearances for the time being, know he has an appearance in MCP soon but really marvel need to give him his own series not Cable.

[pariah-1972]

Theres something wrong when Marvel cant sell a traditional old school super hero buddy book when they both have large fan followings and strong ties to the x-men universe that has very consistent art and writing.
how long did Power man and Iron fist last?
weren't they mostly gimmick characters that were used to exploit popular trends?
did anyone even know who they were before there own team up book?

although to be honest im surprised at how long it lasted considering they were once mortal enemies and had very little in common at first.

[cable guy]

did anyone even know who they were before there own team up book?


Yes.

People did know who they were, before this book.

[cable guy]

It's not like Marvel tried to help increase Cable & Deadpool's sales.

Everyone remember this from Publisher's Weekly:



So, why did Marvel throw away money? Because they wanted a reason to cancel Cable & Deadpool?

If Marvel wanted Cable & Deadpool to sell well, it could. But it was a forgone conclusion that it was being canceled, so Marvel was determined for the sales figures to support that conclusion.

It's the same thing that Robert Weinberg complained Marvel did to justify firing him after Joe Quesada and Bill Jemas decided they wanted Cable to go in a completely different direction despite the fact Cable was selling very well and Weinberg was developing a cult-like following. No promotion, sales decrease, creative team fired.


I don't remember that from Publisher's Weekly.

But I'm not surprised.

It seemed like they never cared about promoting this series, success, at all. They almost wanted it to fall so far in sales, in order for it to be cancelled.

I will give Marvel credit for having the title around that long.

[Sentinel K]

Yes.

People did know who they were, before this book.

I think he was referring to Iron Fist and power man.

[cable guy]

I think he was referring to Iron Fist and power man.

Oops. LOL....

[Crimson]

I agree.

I said it before, and I'll say it again. There's a double standard when it comes to how certain writers are treated at BOTH Marvel and DC these days. The cancellation of C&D and him being kicked off of T-bolts is proof of that. For example, C&D and T-bolts, while not huge sellers, sold CONSISTENTLY better then books writen by creators who were either popular and/or critically acclaimed. And yet, Marvel rewards Fabian by either canceling his book or taking him off of a book.

I don't agree with that.

I think fans get attached to certain writers so that when they leave a book or it's cancelled fans cry foul... where with others they go "oh" and move on to the next writer.

Fabian is one of those writers with a cult following. You think the in-jokes and winks to the fans in his work don't serve a purpose?

It's the same as Kirkman and to a lesser extent Slott (who seems to be leaving the cult following somewhat).

I don't remember that from Publisher's Weekly.

But I'm not surprised.

It seemed like they never cared about promoting this series, success, at all. They almost wanted it to fall so far in sales, in order for it to be cancelled.

I will give Marvel credit for having the title around that long.

If Marvel wanted to cancel the book they would do it regardless of sales... they wouldn't attempt to sabotage it.

[Matthew K.]

So bye-bye miss american pie...

[CmX]

Oh well it's a great title but at least it made #50 issues! Marvel really let this title go on for a long time. (at least I think it'll be probably cancelled at #50)

[Affinity]

Do you guys think Cable's new book will have some Deadpool in it? I'd love to see Deadpool by Ariel Olivetti (that's the artist, right?).

[rwsmith]

I'm sure Deadpool will have to make an appearance or two at some point.

[Sentinel K]

I very much doubt it.

I think C & D will be mostly ignored.

Maybe the occasional reference to Providence.

[Brian M.]

I very much doubt it.

I think C & D will be mostly ignored.

Maybe the occasional reference to Providence.

What'd Zircher say to you?

[Sentinel K]

What'd Zircher say to you?

See X-cress fool.

[Brian M.]

See X-cress fool.

Balls.

I want Zircher to draw the last issue of CnD.

[Nyssane]

I would LOVE it if Zircher drew the last issue.

[cable guy]

I very much doubt it.

I think C & D will be mostly ignored.


That would suck.

[Sentinel K]

That would suck.

There's Marvel for ya.

[Blade X]

I think fans get attached to certain writers so that when they leave a book or it's cancelled fans cry foul... where with others they go "oh" and move on to the next writer.

If Marvel wanted to cancel the book they would do it regardless of sales... they wouldn't attempt to sabotage it.

I definitely agree with you that fans sometimes get very attached to certain writers (and the series they write) and cry "foul" when said writer leaves the book or said book is canceled. That being said, I still think that if Fabian was either a critically acclaimed,popular,and/or big name celebrity writer, he would still be writing C&D and the book would have been relaunched with a new #1 and more promotion.

I think a company only sabotages a book when they want it canceled, but can't find a justifiable reason to do so without looking bad or like idiots. That being said, you are right that if a company really wants to cancel a book, they will do it regardless of sales.

[cable guy]

I guess, saying like it seemed like they wanted it to fail, was a too stong an accusation.

A total lack of effort is more like it. Or not giving a crap.

[ClanAskani]

I definitely agree with you that fans sometimes get very attached to certain writers (and the series they write) and cry "foul" when said writer leaves the book or said book is canceled. That being said, I still think that if Fabian was either a critically acclaimed,popular,and/or big name celebrity writer, he would still be writing C&D and the book would have been relaunched with a new #1 and more promotion.

I think a company only sabotages a book when they want it canceled, but can't find a justifiable reason to do so without looking bad or like idiots. That being said, you are right that if a company really wants to cancel a book, they will do it regardless of sales.

It's a lot like cancelled tv shows I guess. Shows with potential and beloved by fans are always cancelled by networks who fans and sometimes creators accuse of lack of promotion or preventing the show from succeeding in some way.

When Axel Alonso took over, Cable was definitely a character he wanted to use differently. We'll understand more that reasoning once Messiah Complex and the new Cable solo title starts why he wanted to do that, why Cable and Deadpool couldn't be used to accomplish the same thing.

I really hope Fabian is writing the new Cable title, or continues to write at Marvel. He's done so well with CDP. And it's sad to see creators like him, and Claremont and Lobdell getting shown the door after everything they've done for Marvel and X-books.