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SnowTrooper
09-08-2007, 06:48 PM
This thread is dedicated to movies you went to see in theaters, then regretted spending $8.50 on a ticket. Ill start it off.
Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause
Saw this with the family around christmas time and thought it would be a funny holiday movie. I was wrong. The first Santa Clause movie was actually really funny, the second was decent. The bloopers for SC3 were funnier to me than the whole movie.
Spider-Man 3
Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are two of my all-time favorite movies, but this one dissapointed me on a colossal level. I just think that Venom could have been done better and the movie felt really slow, then really rushed.
1WEBHEAD
09-08-2007, 06:58 PM
Shrek The Turd
Oh wait now sorry about that let me start over:
Shrek The Turd
What? OH! Sorry! I was extremely let down by this one. Yes I know it's meant for children but I thought Shrek and Shrek 2 were one of the greatest animated movies of all time. Sadly I found this threequel cliqued, unfunny, and uncreative.
Ang Lee's The Hulk
I thought I was going to see a great movie featuring the Hulk kicking @$$ and taking names, smashing buildings going on rampages, and beating up the army. Okay, yes all that stuff happened. BETWEEN the lame Bruce Banner moments. The movie had moss growing on rocks. Some people actually like this movie, but one man's horrible waste of film is another man's treasure.
Hopefuly next year will be different Hulk.
You deserved better.
Christopher Cross Is God
09-08-2007, 07:08 PM
Blair Witch Project
I was planning on spending an entire day watching movies, and chose this as my first......It was hyped to no end when it was released, and while sitting in the theater, every 5-10 minutes, I would contemplate walking out the door, but kept thinking to myself it probably gets better, otherwise people wouldn't have made such a big deal about the film.
At the end of the film, I had such a bad taste in my mouth I elected not to watch any other movies, and just went home.
Thorlief
09-08-2007, 07:12 PM
where do I start? There's a lot
Beverly Hills Cop 3
I should have seen it coming when the ticket girl smiled at me and my friend while giving us the tickets. I should have seen it coming when I realized there were five people in the theater (me and my friend included). I should have seen it coming when two of em started having sex five minutes after the credits. But when the other viewer, a old man, started staring shifty at me I finally saw it coming.
Spiderman 3
talk about a disappointment. Horrible movie for a lot of reasons: badly edited, rushed action scenes, inconsistent and ridiculous storyline, ugly dialogues, too much enemies, Venom sucked, Gwen Stacy sucked, the most uninspired Sam Raimi of all times and the flag scene. IT BURNS.
Cant remember the title, but it was with Tim Roth on a transatlantic
What the hell of a piece of stinky organic miasma, legendary crapola fest was that thing? That movie lasted like 15 hours and was about Tim Roth growing up into a ship and becoming the greatest pianist ever. I musta been crazy at that time, or maybe it was because of some chick. Can't remember.
Legato
09-08-2007, 07:19 PM
Shrek The Third
Whare to begin, well it had a good concept about Shrek finding another king but the guy that Shrek found turned out to be a complete p****. The gags in the movie arent even remotely funny. Shrek The Third makes me want to pretend that the third movie never did happen.
Spider-Man 3
I found Venom to be unecessary, the third movie should have been focused with Harry and The Sandman as Spider-Man's villains. To make matters worse Venom was treated as a secondary character in this flick.
Mary Jane cant get through a entire movie without her whining all the time and the execution of some of the fight scenes could have been better.
Tobias March
09-08-2007, 07:21 PM
Cant remember the title, but it was with Tim Roth on a transatlantic
What the hell of a piece of stinky organic miasma, legendary crapola fest was that thing? That movie lasted like 15 hours and was about Tim Roth growing up into a ship and becoming the greatest pianist ever. I musta been crazy at that time, or maybe it was because of some chick. Can't remember.
I think that's 1900 - though I've never seen it.
Kevin M.
09-08-2007, 08:28 PM
House of The Dead: Why you should never go to the movies after a night of drinking.
david r
09-08-2007, 08:30 PM
Godzilla 2000: I was the only person in the theatre. Not a positive sign.
Batman and Robin: What a horrible mess. God, just...Batman and ROTTEN!!
The Devil's Rejects: I'd like to see Rob Zombie tortured for two hours, and then see if he still finds cinematic torture "entertainment".
Hulk: I echo 1WebHead's thoughts. Instead of "Hulk Smash!", we get close-ups of Nick Nolte's aging face muttering gibberish. What a WASTE!!
Thorlief
09-08-2007, 08:30 PM
I think that's 1900 - though I've never seen it.
yep that's it, thanksalot. And I seem to remember his name was like "Billy Jimmy TD Lemon 1900 Benny Goodman Andy Crapp" or something. No, seriously, it was that long
The Devil's Rejects: I'd like to see Rob Zombie tortured for two hours, and then see if he still finds cinematic torture "entertainment".
The Devil's Rejects was one of the most interesting and just plain brilliant films that came out in 2006.
Zombie managed to take some of the most repulsive, hateful characters in the history of film and twist around the very nature of what was the traditional film protagonist and antagonist, and to totally play with the loyalty of the audience.
I was just amazed at how good a film it was.
Now Grindhouse on the other hand was just plain bad.
Don’t get me wrong, I appreciated just what exactly it was that Tarentino and Rodriguez were trying to accomplish. But when I compared their half-assed attempts at “B” pictures to some of the originals that they were emulating, their big budget, big star attempts just came across as weak and more then a little dull.
jesse_custer
09-08-2007, 10:50 PM
There have been only two films this year that I wished I would have avoided completely: Transformers and Fracture.
Scorpion13
09-08-2007, 10:55 PM
Godzilla 2000: I was the only person in the theatre. Not a positive sign.
So? I mean, of course people are going to think its corny. Besides that, how did you like it?
I myself lucked out and got to see it in a drive-in. Nice retro thing.
Then I had to see Hollow Man. :(
Johnny_Luck
09-08-2007, 11:39 PM
There have been only two films this year that I wished I would have avoided completely: Transformers and Fracture.
Why Transformers? Other than maybe noise from people in the theater. I myself thought it be utter crap and knerw how bad michael bay usually is not to mention it having Shia/Fox and all three of them proved me wrong and actually did amazing work. The movie was highly entertaing and much better than it had any right to be.
Plus with the way the movie was done its one people really should have seen in theaters.
Now Grindhouse on the other hand was just plain bad.
Don’t get me wrong, I appreciated just what exactly it was that Tarentino and Rodriguez were trying to accomplish. But when I compared their half-assed attempts at “B” pictures to some of the originals that they were emulating, their big budget, big star attempts just came across as weak and more then a little dull.
while I agree Deathproof blew chunks, Planet terror not only was awesome action, effect and B movie wise, but the crowd in my theater where more invovled in the movie than any other crowd I have ever seen to date and the entire crowd burst out in laughter(every single person) with the way the missing real was used.
Not to mention the trailers were awesome(mostly Thanksgiving trailer)
about half of the people walked out 5 minutes into the 30 minute chit chat shit in DP and it didn't get any better from there.
P.S. the fact that venom is hated by Sam and he was forced to use the crappy Venom character explains a lot, that and the group of storyline scenes with Gwen/Peter and the Eddie/William Baker(aka Sandman who doesn't become Flint Marco until years after being the sandman its his jail/robbery alias) being cut ruined bits and pieces of the movie though.
I still thought it was a lot better than people gave it credit for and I buy it right away on dvd, but it did have 1 or 2 issues.
that being Said are we talking regretable as in bad, or just ones that lead to stuff we didn't like.
For example I had been waiting almost 2 years to see Skinwalkers(due to the postponement in March to august 10th) and when I went to see it the people had to look up to the listings to see they had it showing, then had to search for it in the computer, then the bar picture above the theater door was rescue dawn crap rather than skinwalkers, then the trailers died mid way through and it took them 15 minutes of screwing around until they figured out that there was a problem.
Then the movie played and even though all that crappy, crap happened beforehand the movie had an old school kick butt awesomeness to it that made it very worthwhile.
Titan76
09-09-2007, 12:10 AM
Hulk for same reasons already posted.
V for Vendetta This is in my top three favorite comics of all time and the movie was completely horse shit. Pretty much nothing from the book made it onto the film.
Superman Returns I spent $14 on me and one of my friends to see this on the Imax screen in 3D. There were only four 3D scenes which were crap, no action scenes, and a plot that revolve around Superman lifting a big rock out of the ocean and throwing it into space. I wanted to slam my head on a brick wall after watching this.
The Matrix Reload I love the first movie and had high hopes for the next one. While it had great fighting scenes and of course great CGI, the plot was retard and really boring at times. Because of this I waited for the third movie to come out on DVD.
Scorpion13
09-09-2007, 12:13 AM
V for Vendetta This is in my top three favorite comics of all time and the movie was completely horse shit. Pretty much nothing from the book made it onto the film.
.
They SO did not get the point of the story, so we had the joyful experience of the Wachowski brothers crowbarring in as much Michael Moore brand political commentary as possible.
The Zapper
09-09-2007, 12:15 AM
Godzilla 2000: I was the only person in the theatre. Not a positive sign.
Godzilla 2000 was pretty rank, but it was made quickly to counter the even more rank American Zilla movie (I refuse to call it Godzilla). I'll throw X-Men 3. One of my favorite characters (Magneto) makes an army to go to war. Sounds awesome, until you see the crap that they tried to pass off as a movie.
EDIT: I went for free, and I still wanted my money back after watching X3.
Scorpion13
09-09-2007, 12:18 AM
Godzilla 2000 was pretty rank, but it was made quickly to counter the even more rank American Zilla movie (I refuse to call it Godzilla). I'll throw X-Men 3. One of my favorite characters (Magneto) makes an army to go to war. Sounds awesome, until you see the crap that they tried to pass off as a movie.
EDIT: I went for free, and I still wanted my money back after watching X3.
X-men 3 had 3 movies worth of plots shoved into 1 feature. Very disappointing.
Didnt have enough time for any of the characters.
SnowTrooper
09-09-2007, 12:18 AM
They SO did not get the point of the story, so we had the joyful experience of the Wachowski brothers crowbarring in as much Michael Moore brand political commentary as possible.
V for Vendetta surprised me. I never read the comics and I knew nothing about it going in and I thought it was just going to be a Vigilante action movie. I had no idea that it would be so political, it was still a decent movie but the lack of action caught me off gaurd.
Titan76
09-09-2007, 12:28 AM
They SO did not get the point of the story, so we had the joyful experience of the Wachowski brothers crowbarring in as much Michael Moore brand political commentary as possible.
I thought the same thing too at first but a friend of my did some research on the movie and he told me it turns out the Wachowski brothers actually wanted to stay faithful to the comic. The script they wanted to use was supposedly very faithful to Moore's book but of course the all knowing producer that is Joel Silver thought the audience wouldn't get the story and had them change it into the one-dimensional crap of a movie we got.
Even though they were made to change it I still want to beat the hell out both of them and now Joel Silver too.
Titan76
09-09-2007, 12:30 AM
EDIT: I went for free, and I still wanted my money back after watching X3.
I don't understand how people can say X3 suck yet go on and say X1 was good. Guess I will never understand.
SPAfreak
09-09-2007, 12:36 AM
I don't understand how people can say X3 suck yet go on and say X1 was good. Guess I will never understand.
That makes two of us. X1 was horrible. It suffered from having what, 23 writers? It's surprising that any two sentences actually followed each other coherently.
The Blade series I also don't get. Poorly acted, bland stories and awful direction. But people love them and I just don't understand why.
Christopher Cross Is God
09-09-2007, 12:37 AM
I don't understand how people can say X3 suck yet go on and say X1 was good. Guess I will never understand.
Same here......X1 was a pretty mediocre movie. Perhaps the technology just wasn't there yet, but the action scenes (Aside from Toad's) were abysmal, and the storyline was just average.
Christopher Cross Is God
09-09-2007, 12:37 AM
That makes two of us. X1 was horrible. It suffered from having what, 23 writers? It's surprising that any two sentences actually followed each other coherently.
The Blade series I also don't get. Poorly acted, bland stories and awful direction. But people love them and I just don't understand why.
Blade 2 was alright. It was a cheesecake type of film, but very fun to watch......Blade 1 & 3 (Especially 3) I just can't stomach watching.
The Zapper
09-09-2007, 12:46 AM
I don't understand how people can say X3 suck yet go on and say X1 was good. Guess I will never understand.
X1 I liked for Magneto and Toad mostly. It had good character interaction, also it was the first big super hero film in awhile, and didn't have a huge budget. X2 was kick ass all the way around. X3 sucked on almost every single level. Magneto moving Golden Gate bridge was awesome. That's it.
while I agree Deathproof blew chunks, Planet terror not only was awesome action, effect and B movie wise, but the crowd in my theater where more invovled in the movie than any other crowd I have ever seen to date and the entire crowd burst out in laughter(every single person) with the way the missing real was used.
Not to mention the trailers were awesome(mostly Thanksgiving trailer)
about half of the people walked out 5 minutes into the 30 minute chit chat shit in DP and it didn't get any better from there.
I wasn't nearly as bothered by Planet of Terror as I was by Deathproof, and I did like all of the trailers.
POT was more or less harmless, and while it was no Romero film, it did have a few good minutes.
I admit that most of my problems with the film are directly related to Deathproof.
Dull, dull, dull buildup followed by a car chase that would have been laughed at in its ineptness by the guys who shot the original, Gone in 60 Seconds or Vanishing Point.
I mean sure there were a few SUV’s spinning out, but mostly it was just two cars on some dirt roads.
Big whoop.
The Zapper
09-09-2007, 12:53 AM
I hated all of Grindehouse except for the trailers. Those were awesome.
Scorpion13
09-09-2007, 01:39 AM
I thought the same thing too at first but a friend of my did some research on the movie and he told me it turns out the Wachowski brothers actually wanted to stay faithful to the comic. The script they wanted to use was supposedly very faithful to Moore's book but of course the all knowing producer that is Joel Silver thought the audience wouldn't get the story and had them change it into the one-dimensional crap of a movie we got.
Even though they were made to change it I still want to beat the hell out both of them and now Joel Silver too.
Eh, I dunno. Seems like that after the Wachowskis came off a mega blockbuster trilogy like the Matrix, theyd have enough clout to stop a total script rewrite.
Doesnt seem likely to me.
Thorlief
09-09-2007, 06:34 AM
Kill Bill
I was never, never convinced about it but still had to go because all of my friends were Tarantino freaks. Guess I was right, the movie annoyed the hell outta me with its ridiculous cliches, bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboring action scenes and Tarantino's dangerously lack of creativity because he copied thirty years of italian, japanese and asian filmmaking and called it a "homage". Homage my arse, what a hack.
Thank god for Kung Fu Hustle. Now that was a great homage and a wonderfully fun action comedy
Titan76
09-09-2007, 06:48 AM
Eh, I dunno. Seems like that after the Wachowskis came off a mega blockbuster trilogy like the Matrix, theyd have enough clout to stop a total script rewrite.
Doesnt seem likely to me.
The Hulk movie was change a lot because of Nick Nolte. So I think its possible.
Someone else told me they say this in interview on the V for Vendetta DVD. I don't know if this is true since I refuse to even look a the DVD. Can someone who has seen the special feats. on the DVD tell us?
Scorpion13
09-09-2007, 12:02 PM
The Hulk movie was change a lot because of Nick Nolte. So I think its possible.
Someone else told me they say this in interview on the V for Vendetta DVD. I don't know if this is true since I refuse to even look a the DVD. Can someone who has seen the special feats. on the DVD tell us?
Which, again, sounds alot like scape goating to me.
metalhead_dave743
09-09-2007, 12:03 PM
Am I the only one here dumb enough to see "The Marine" in theaters?
metalhead_dave743
09-09-2007, 12:07 PM
Damn double post.
Linali616
09-09-2007, 12:10 PM
Perfume
This movie utterly confused and freaked me out! Most people I've talked to about it said the book was so much better than the movie.
1408
I don't exactly regret it but the trailer for it made it seem so much better, and it confused me a bit too.
I mean I go to cinema a lot, maybe even too much but I rarely come across a movie I regret seeing, I don't know what that says about my standards lol
ultramandingo
09-09-2007, 12:27 PM
.......i waited in line to see jaws 2
The Batman
09-09-2007, 12:29 PM
Batman and Robin.
Not just a terrible Batman film, but an outright terrible film period. I don't know why I stayed until the end.
1WEBHEAD
09-09-2007, 12:30 PM
3 pages and no sign of Electra and Catwoman. :)
3 pages and no sign of Electra and Catwoman. :)
Most of us sort of knew they would be really bad and skipped them in the first place.
Hence, no regrets. :)
The Zapper
09-09-2007, 01:08 PM
Most of us sort of knew they would be really bad and skipped them in the first place.
Hence, no regrets. :)
Yup. Superman Returns however, was one of the biggest let downs ever for me. It was boring as hell.
Johnny_Luck
09-09-2007, 01:13 PM
3 pages and no sign of Electra and Catwoman. :)
1st its Elektra, 2. that movie might not be theater worthy but it is not as bad as people say it is, not even close.
The Zapper
09-09-2007, 01:22 PM
Electra sucked pretty hard, but I agree that it's not as bad as some people would say...it still pretty awful though.
Scorpion13
09-09-2007, 01:22 PM
Plus, lets not forget that most of the people here had the good sense not to see either of those movies for any amount of money.
jesse_custer
09-09-2007, 01:24 PM
I agree that Elektra is not as bad as its reputation would suggest ...
... if you're comparing it to Gymkata.
Scorpion13
09-09-2007, 01:25 PM
I agree that Elektra is not as bad as its reputation would suggest ...
... if you're comparing it to Gymkata.
Thats like comparing things to the Holocaust. Its practically Godwin's law.
Legato
09-09-2007, 01:32 PM
Elektra is like X-Men: The Last Stand. If the script of the movie had been improved then the movie wouldn't have been that bad. Thare is also the fact that the special effects in Elektra made the movie look like it would be more suitable as a made for TV Movie instead of a theater movie.
Anyone who thought that Catwoman would have been a good movie should have known better.
Blade: Trinity pissed me off to no end. How Goyer screwed the Blade Franchise up is a mystery to me.
Howard Allan
09-09-2007, 01:33 PM
Smoking Aces was a smoking pile. Enough said.
The Zapper
09-09-2007, 01:34 PM
Smoking Aces was a smoking pile. Enough said.
I agree with this.
Legato
09-09-2007, 01:52 PM
Smoking Aces was a smoking pile. Enough said.
The premise wasn;t that bad. The plot twist was what ruined my enjoyment of the movie.
Thorlief
09-09-2007, 02:09 PM
Six days, seven nights
Ok, you don't need an explanation here
Kindergarten cop or however you spell it
don't look at me that way. It was Ahnuld's time, everything he crapped out needed to be watched
The Mask
cool effects and Carrey was fine. But man, the story/ scenario/ photography/ direction/ action scenes were totally tv movieish
Scoop and Small time crooks
it's official, Woody lost it after Manhattan Murder Mystery. These two were total snoozefests to say the least, and the second had some of the oldest, most unfunny gags ever
Legato
09-09-2007, 02:14 PM
Six days, seven nights
Ok, you don't need an explanation here
Kindergarten cop or however you spell it
don't look at me that way. It was Ahnuld's time, everything he crapped out needed to be watched
The Mask
cool effects and Carrey was fine. But man, the story/ scenario/ photography/ direction/ action scenes were totally tv movieish
Scoop and Small time crooks
it's official, Woody lost it after Manhattan Murder Mystery. These two were total snoozefests to say the least, and the second had some of the oldest, most unfunny gags ever
Dude Kindergarten Cop is like Last Action Hero. If you dont take it seriously then you could enjoy it.
Van Helsing
The opening movie whare it was in Black and White was one of the enjoyable moments in the film. The movie went on a downward spiral when it turned color.
Calling Van Helsing Gabriel was a pretty stupid move. Almost as bad as the forced romance between Van Helsing and Anna.
Deep_Sleeper
09-09-2007, 02:21 PM
There have been only two films this year that I wished I would have avoided completely: Transformers and Fracture.
I think Transformers, while it may not have been a great movie, is extremely enjoyable to watch as a theater experience. It's not gonna be as riveting on DVD or next-gen home video (unless you have a home theater set up) because it won't feel like the colossal experience you are supposed to see it as.
But that's just my opinion. As are the following:
Bourne Ultimatum
X3: The Last Stand
Miami Vice
Blade: Trinity
Punisher
Ghost Rider
The reason I name all those is because I knew they'd suck, but I went to see them in the theater anyways and my instincts were correct. They sucked.
Johnny_Luck
09-09-2007, 02:23 PM
Smoking Aces was a smoking pile. Enough said.
Not Really, I like you to explain.
The cuts in and out were perfect, helped tell the story well introducing all the characters, it had better acting from Affleck, Keys and Renolds than it had any right to, Ray Liotta was just awesome, the action scenes were intense, the dialoug was top notch, the twist lead to one of the most connected and emotional endings to a movie like that, that I have seen and overall everything about it was pretty excellent.
Though your probably one of those silly people who thinks the same about Lucky Number Slevin which was one of the best films in the last 10 years let alone of last year, smokin aces was basically just as great, but one of this years better movies.
Thorlief
09-09-2007, 02:24 PM
Dude Kindergarten Cop is like Last Action Hero. If you dont take it seriously then you could enjoy it.
LSA was a parody, and not a totally bad one while KC was a comedy. I took it as a comedy and received a big crap in exchange
Legato
09-09-2007, 02:28 PM
The problem with KC was that while it's intention was to be a comedy it also tried to take itself as a serious cop movie. Sometimes blending in serious and comedy can work but thare are times when it doesn't and Kindergarten Cop is one of those movies whare it didn't do too well in blending in serious and comedy.
Johnny_Luck
09-09-2007, 02:31 PM
Heres the thing, while KC might not be funny, its still entertaining IMHO at least as a cop movie.
That and true lies are the only two Arnold movies I ever really enjoyed, ever.
Don't think KC is a good movie, but its entertaining none the less.
True Lies however has Tia Carrere and Eliza Dushku to help Both the arnolds make it one of the best action movies made to date.
jesse_custer
09-09-2007, 02:35 PM
I think Transformers, while it may not have been a great movie, is extremely enjoyable to watch as a theater experience.
I don't share the opinion that good special effects or loads of fanboys in seats make for a good theater experience. A good theater experience is when everyone shuts the hell up and the movie is good. I would much rather watch another "Glengarry Glen Ross" than a so-called "theatrical experience" like "Transformers."
Michael P
09-09-2007, 02:43 PM
Lost in Space.
What the hell was I thinking?
Johnny_Luck
09-09-2007, 03:17 PM
Lost in Space.
What the hell was I thinking?
Lacy Chabert?
Erik Lehnsherr
09-09-2007, 03:26 PM
This thread is dedicated to movies you went to see in theaters, then regretted spending $8.50 on a ticket. Ill start it off.
Santa Clause 3: The Escape Clause
Saw this with the family around christmas time and thought it would be a funny holiday movie. I was wrong. The first Santa Clause movie was actually really funny, the second was decent. The bloopers for SC3 were funnier to me than the whole movie.
Spider-Man 3
Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are two of my all-time favorite movies, but this one dissapointed me on a colossal level. I just think that Venom could have been done better and the movie felt really slow, then really rushed.
There was nothing all too bad about Spider-Man 3 but why in the WORLD, no, the GALAXY would you go see Santa Clause 3 with your own hard earned money???
1WEBHEAD
09-09-2007, 03:41 PM
There was nothing all too bad about Spider-Man 3 but why in the WORLD, no, the GALAXY would you go see Santa Clause 3 with your own hard earned money???
Yeah, lately Tim Allen has been putting nothing out except horrible movies lately.
Legato
09-09-2007, 03:41 PM
Spider-Man 3 isn't as bad as, you can say, Batman & Robin or Catwoman despite what the Spider-Man fanboys claim.
While some aspects were disappointing I still enjoyed it
Erik Lehnsherr
09-09-2007, 03:42 PM
Yeah, lately Tim Allen has been putting nothing out except horrible movies lately.
I can't believe Hog Wild or whatever that movie was called went #1. I was laughing over that one.
Johnny_Luck
09-09-2007, 03:46 PM
I can't believe Hog Wild or whatever that movie was called went #1. I was laughing over that one.
Yeah and I am laughing at you for hating a movie(wild Hogs) which is extremely funny but you won't see due to stupid preconceived views.
William H macy, Travolta and Liota made the movie amazing
If you had actually seen it you would know why it did as well as it did and is liked as much as it is. It had me laughing so hard in the theater I had a hard time breathing through most of it.
Though I agree Allen has done jack good outside of that movie.
Spider-Man 3 isn't as bad as, you can say, Batman & Robin or Catwoman despite what the Spider-Man fanboys claim.
While some aspects were disappointing I still enjoyed it
I read spider-man since I was 5(so about 17 years now) and I highly enjoyed it the first time and still found it entertaining the second time. Sure it had some problems but a lot of the ones pointed out are silly ones that served a purpose anyways.
Michael P
09-09-2007, 03:50 PM
Lacy Chabert?
She was, like, 12, dude. If there was any ass in that movie to look at, it was Heather Graham.
Johnny_Luck
09-09-2007, 03:54 PM
She was, like, 12, dude. If there was any ass in that movie to look at, it was Heather Graham.
Heather graham is ugly as hell and way overrated
Plus it was 1998 which means I was 13(9 years ago) at the time. Not why I saw the movie I saw the movie because I grew up watching the black and white re-runs with some colors ones in there as well on tv.
Just didn't know how old you were, and if it could have been a reason.
Michael P
09-09-2007, 03:55 PM
Heather graham is ugly as hell and way overrated
Between this and your review of Wild Hogs, it's pretty clear we're not going to agree on much.
Legato
09-09-2007, 03:56 PM
I read spider-man since I was 5(so about 17 years now) and I highly enjoyed it the first time and still found it entertaining the second time. Sure it had some problems but a lot of the ones pointed out are silly ones that served a purpose anyways.
That is what I was trying to convince some of the people. It has it's faults and there were moments I felt that Venom shouldn't be needed at all but thare wasn't a single moment whare I didn't walk out of the movie feeling very pissed that I wasted money on it, like Blade: Trinity for example.
1WEBHEAD
09-09-2007, 03:57 PM
Yeah and I am laughing at you for hating a movie(wild Hogs) which is extremely funny but you won't see due to stupid preconceived views.
William H macy, Travolta and Liota made the movie amazing
If you had actually seen it you would know why it did as well as it did and is liked as much as it is. It had me laughing so hard in the theater I had a hard time breathing through most of it.
Though I agree Allen has done jack good outside of that movie.
I read spider-man since I was 5(so about 17 years now) and I highly enjoyed it the first time and still found it entertaining the second time. Sure it had some problems but a lot of the ones pointed out are silly ones that served a purpose anyways.
For the record, I saw Wild Hogs and thought it was horrible but hey, if it made you laugh, then good for you then! Who am I to take that away from you and say "WRONG".
I felt bad for the people who actually went outside their house, to a movie theater and spent money to go see Tim Allen's movie where he turns into a dog and stuff. I saw part of it on HBO Family with my little brother and I couldn't help but pity the fools.
Once upon a time in Mexico
I remember my aunt suggesting that we should see it but I thought it wasn't that great. I thought the gore was too "in your face" and didn't care much for the story or charcters. Hell, I don't even remember most of the movie. and for that I'm greatful.:)
Michael P
09-09-2007, 04:02 PM
For the record, I saw Wild Hogs and thought it was horrible but hey, if it made you laugh, then good for you then! Who am I to take that away from you and say "WRONG".
Someone with taste?
Legato
09-09-2007, 04:03 PM
Someone with taste?
Maybe someone who has a different opinion when it comes to what is bad and what isn't.
Thorlief
09-09-2007, 04:10 PM
That is what I was trying to convince some of the people. It has it's faults and there were moments I felt that Venom shouldn't be needed at all but thare wasn't a single moment whare I didn't walk out of the movie feeling very pissed that I wasted money on it, like Blade: Trinity for example.
I'm glad you and Johnny_Luck liked it, but to me it was the worst movie of the year. You don't grab a multimillion budget and ruin a franchise that way
Johnny_Luck
09-09-2007, 04:16 PM
I'm glad you and Johnny_Luck liked it, but to me it was the worst movie of the year. You don't grab a multimillion budget and ruin a franchise that way
If You Think its the worst movie of the year you clearly haven't seen stuff like Blades of Glory/Norbit/ Premonition/Music and Lyrics/Epic Movie yet have you as those are tens times of worse.
Thorlief
09-09-2007, 04:22 PM
well we're talking about movies we spent money on, so
Michael P
09-09-2007, 04:27 PM
Maybe someone who has a different opinion when it comes to what is bad and what isn't.
Not all opinions are equal.
Johnny_Luck
09-09-2007, 04:30 PM
Not all opinions are equal.
and usually those who have below average ones are the ones that attack others with what you said in quotes.
Jade_GL
09-09-2007, 04:38 PM
How can there be below average opinions? Everyone has them and they're all the same. No one's opinion is better, because it's not a contest. It's a thread about movies you regretted spending money on, and if I regret spending money to see Citizen Kane, then that's my opinion even if 1 out of every million people disagree with me.
Good God.
Anyway, I'd say Lost in Space.
I didn't spend money to see Catwoman (ticket was free) but that was a pile of crap movie. But still, I got more enjoyment out of Catwoman than I did at Lost in Space, which was an utter train wreck. I curse the group of friends that actually talked me into that one.
The Zapper
09-09-2007, 04:39 PM
I might get flak for this one, but "Saving Private Ryan" was a disapointment for me. The beginning was good, but is went to crap after that. Band of Brothers blows Saving Private Ryan in every way.
The Zapper
09-09-2007, 04:44 PM
Mortal Kombat 2 was one of the most rank movies I ever paid money to see. In fact, it's the only movie I've ever walked out on after having paid. Now, I hated Pearl Harbor the first time I saw it. The second time I saw it (10 minutes after the first time) I hated it even more. Of course this was for my job so I was actually getting paid to watch Pear Harbor, yet I still wanted my money back. that movie is crap upon crap.
Thorlief
09-09-2007, 05:00 PM
I might get flak for this one, but "Saving Private Ryan" was a disapointment for me. The beginning was good, but is went to crap after that. Band of Brothers blows Saving Private Ryan in every way.
No, I agree with you about SPR. Godawfully, overrated crapfest. BOB was really another story, although I might find some bits I dont really like even in there
The patriot
it doesn't get much worse than that. I still find it pretty weird that a German director realizes the crappiest comically patriotic borefests in Hollywood. It was the beginning of the end for Mel Gibson
and while we're talking about him..
The passion
this is, for me, the worst movie of the last decade. Everything is so horribly wrong, both morally and technically, I still have to slap myself in the face for the money I spent for this steaming pile of bull. Irritating beyond any possible imagination, this is what made me hate Mel Gibson- ok, this and his anti-semitic crap-
Black Atom
09-09-2007, 05:21 PM
The passion
this is, for me, the worst movie of the last decade. Everything is so horribly wrong, both morally and technically, I still have to slap myself in the face for the money I spent for this steaming pile of bull. Irritating beyond any possible imagination, this is what made me hate Mel Gibson- ok, this and his anti-semitic crap-
Whenever someone complains about "The Passion" I kinda have to ask "Well, what were you expecting?" With all the controversy surrounding the movie most of us knew exactly what to expect. Only the most Catholics and, well, Jesus himself would willingly submit to that sort of pain.
Anyway, as I always say when these threads pop up, Superman Returns is easily the most disappointing movie I've ever seen in the theater. God, what an oppressively un-fun movie.
Howard Allan
09-09-2007, 05:47 PM
Not Really, I like you to explain.
The cuts in and out were perfect, helped tell the story well introducing all the characters, it had better acting from Affleck, Keys and Renolds than it had any right to, Ray Liotta was just awesome, the action scenes were intense, the dialoug was top notch, the twist lead to one of the most connected and emotional endings to a movie like that, that I have seen and overall everything about it was pretty excellent.
Though your probably one of those silly people who thinks the same about Lucky Number Slevin which was one of the best films in the last 10 years let alone of last year, smokin aces was basically just as great, but one of this years better movies.
Dude. We were promised a whole shitload of action scenes in the trailers. We got diddled. And I've never watched Sleven and probably never will. No Interest.
Chase
09-09-2007, 06:06 PM
Spider-Man 3 was particularly infuriating, and a movie where at the end of viewing, I thought, "Man, what waste of my money."
And I'm neglecting to mention date movies, because those were viewed for other purposes, and not because I wanted to see them (majority-wise).
The final Matrix movie, Matrix Revolutions, had me saying out loud, "What the [frick] did I just observe?" What pretentious crap, and a terrible rip-off of Ghost in the Shell.
Superman Returns, as mentioned, was not only not fun, but must have been depressing for Superman fans who wanted to see a good movie. And what a waste of Kevin Spacey. Had he not been forced to hack it up as Hackman, he would have made for a nice, sinister Luthor. Frickin' Singer.
SnowTrooper
09-09-2007, 06:07 PM
Scary Movie 4
By far the most dissapointing movie I ever saw in theaters. I went with a couple of friends expecting it to be atleast as funny as the 3rd one and I laughed maybe twice during the whole movie. Horrible dissapointment.
Legato
09-09-2007, 06:26 PM
Whenever someone complains about "The Passion" I kinda have to ask "Well, what were you expecting?" With all the controversy surrounding the movie most of us knew exactly what to expect. Only the most Catholics and, well, Jesus himself would willingly submit to that sort of pain.
Anyway, as I always say when these threads pop up, Superman Returns is easily the most disappointing movie I've ever seen in the theater. God, what an oppressively un-fun movie.
Its the man who made The Passion, not the movie itself. If it's the actuall movie then Im with you on what the heck do they have to complain about.
Thorlief
09-09-2007, 07:22 PM
no, I'm not judging Mel Gibson for his nazi personality, I'm just saying the movie, as a movie, was a big turd.
It was ridiculous for many reasons: a Jesus with gold-coloured contact lenses;a demonic children and a androgynous Satan that have much more to do with films like The Cell than the scriptures; and a whole lot of scourging, flaying, beating and nailing. The amount of gratuitous violence was simply ridiculous, it was almost like Mel enjoyed what he was doing to Jesus. Oh, and why does he look like a sack of blood when on the cross, while the other two dudes seem to opo out from Life of Brian? Oh well.
I like violence in movies, it's funny sometimes, but this was simply disgusting. Was Mel supposed to show us how much Jesus suffered from the beating? But that was the daily routine in ancient world. Did we need to see every inch of skin dropping on the sand? Was Mel trying to teach us something? Buh.
I didnt know, for example, this movie needed so much adherence to historical fact, or else less pretension to authenticity, because I simply didnt realize it was based on a book written by a mentally changed woman. A little more soul to offset all the brutalised flesh woulda been appropriate and yes, enough already with the demonisation of the Jews. But I want to leave this last point as it is
a soulless , cold, sadistic movie
Sabrina_Fried
09-09-2007, 07:24 PM
Shrek The Third - Of course with this one, I think I just regret seeing it, period. Never mind that I paid $15 to see it in theatres. Sheesh, even the KIDS seated near me were begging their parents to leave because they didn't like the movie.
The second and third Matrix movies - As much as I love watching the special effects duke it out, I probably could have seen the entire story developments from both movies in a 10-minute clip on YouTube and been satisfied. Normally this is exactly the kind of movie I go to theatres to experience because of the whole big screen/big sound thing, but in this case I wish I would have waited for the DVDs because on a smaller screen it would have looked just *that* much less like a video game. Or like most movies where I decide to wait for the DVD, I would just have never gotten around to it.
Sabrina
Black Atom
09-09-2007, 08:20 PM
no, I'm not judging Mel Gibson for his nazi personality, I'm just saying the movie, as a movie, was a big turd.
It was ridiculous for many reasons: a Jesus with gold-coloured contact lenses;a demonic children and a androgynous Satan that have much more to do with films like The Cell than the scriptures; and a whole lot of scourging, flaying, beating and nailing. The amount of gratuitous violence was simply ridiculous, it was almost like Mel enjoyed what he was doing to Jesus. Oh, and why does he look like a sack of blood when on the cross, while the other two dudes seem to opo out from Life of Brian? Oh well.
I like violence in movies, it's funny sometimes, but this was simply disgusting. Was Mel supposed to show us how much Jesus suffered from the beating? But that was the daily routine in ancient world. Did we need to see every inch of skin dropping on the sand? Was Mel trying to teach us something? Buh.
I didnt know, for example, this movie needed so much adherence to historical fact, or else less pretension to authenticity, because I simply didnt realize it was based on a book written by a mentally changed woman. A little more soul to offset all the brutalised flesh woulda been appropriate and yes, enough already with the demonisation of the Jews. But I want to leave this last point as it is
a soulless , cold, sadistic movie
Prior to the release, people criticized Gibson for the extended, extreme violence of the movie and he defended it by saying the goal of the movie was pretty much to show precisely how much Christ suffered during the crucifixtion. We knew going in that the bulk of the story was going to be Jesus getting beaten--no walking on water or feeding thousands with bread, just Christ being flayed for about 50 minutes straight.
Funny thing is, my problem with Superman Returns is that it spends almost as much time battering it's titular character (either physically or emotionally) and reeks of the same pretentious religious overtones. At least with Passion I knew to expect it going in!
Thorlief
09-09-2007, 08:33 PM
SR was quite a disappointment for me as well. But I can't put it here because I was lucky enough to smell a fiasco and avoid it at warp speed
Scorpion13
09-09-2007, 08:34 PM
Prior to the release, people criticized Gibson for the extended, extreme violence of the movie and he defended it by saying the goal of the movie was pretty much to show precisely how much Christ suffered during the crucifixtion. We knew going in that the bulk of the story was going to be Jesus getting beaten--no walking on water or feeding thousands with bread, just Christ being flayed for about 50 minutes straight.
Funny thing is, my problem with Superman Returns is that it spends almost as much time battering it's titular character (either physically or emotionally) and reeks of the same pretentious religious overtones. At least with Passion I knew to expect it going in!
As Ive said before, my problem with the Passion (and this is coming from a real life catholic) is exactly that he left out the part with Jesus coming back to life.
To be honest, lots of prophets and holy men suffered and died like Jesus, the whole lynchpin of our damn religion is that he came back to life. That was the whole point of his ordeal, and Gibson reduced it to a tiny scene tacked on at the end.
He reduced one of the biggest stories of chirstianity into something like Hostel or Saw.
THATS my problem with it.
Thorlief
09-09-2007, 08:45 PM
what do you expect? No more slaughtering after the resurrection, Mel ran out of interest
Legato
09-09-2007, 09:06 PM
Prior to the release, people criticized Gibson for the extended, extreme violence of the movie and he defended it by saying the goal of the movie was pretty much to show precisely how much Christ suffered during the crucifixtion. We knew going in that the bulk of the story was going to be Jesus getting beaten--no walking on water or feeding thousands with bread, just Christ being flayed for about 50 minutes straight.
Funny thing is, my problem with Superman Returns is that it spends almost as much time battering it's titular character (either physically or emotionally) and reeks of the same pretentious religious overtones. At least with Passion I knew to expect it going in!
Same for me, which is why Im not too upset about it as most people are and Im a Baptist. From what I heard I was expecting it to be very graphic. It set out the wrong messege but hey I knew I would be seeing a diffrent version of the Jesus story.
Legato
09-09-2007, 09:08 PM
what do you expect? No more slaughtering after the resurrection, Mel ran out of interest
Ok the director isn't the problem yet his name keeps popping up whenever something negative about The Passion is mentioned?
Scorpion13
09-09-2007, 09:22 PM
Ok the director isn't the problem yet his name keeps popping up whenever something negative about The Passion is mentioned?
Well the whole thing was Mel's baby, so it kind of makes sense that complaints about the plot of the film should go to him.
Legato
09-09-2007, 09:30 PM
Well the whole thing was Mel's baby, so it kind of makes sense that complaints about the plot of the film should go to him.
Yet this brings me makes me wonder suppose it was a diffrent director that isn't known as a racist. Would people still complain about that movie based on it was made by a *racist*?
mattx110
09-09-2007, 09:55 PM
As Ive said before, my problem with the Passion (and this is coming from a real life catholic) is exactly that he left out the part with Jesus coming back to life.
To be honest, lots of prophets and holy men suffered and died like Jesus, the whole lynchpin of our damn religion is that he came back to life. That was the whole point of his ordeal, and Gibson reduced it to a tiny scene tacked on at the end.
He reduced one of the biggest stories of chirstianity into something like Hostel or Saw.
THATS my problem with it.
dude, the resurrection is so unrealistic, and takes suspension of disbelief just a bit too far...
mattx110
09-09-2007, 10:16 PM
Dude Kindergarten Cop is like Last Action Hero. If you dont take it seriously then you could enjoy it.
Van Helsing
The opening movie whare it was in Black and White was one of the enjoyable moments in the film. The movie went on a downward spiral when it turned color.
Calling Van Helsing Gabriel was a pretty stupid move. Almost as bad as the forced romance between Van Helsing and Anna.
what's wrong with gabriel? he had nothing in common with abraham so it's nice to separate the characters. it's just a name.
Scorpion13
09-09-2007, 10:19 PM
dude, the resurrection is so unrealistic, and takes suspension of disbelief just a bit too far...
Youre right.
Maybe a scene with Jesus going off a cliff in an old camaro? Like with Toonces?
Thorlief
09-10-2007, 05:05 AM
Ok the director isn't the problem yet his name keeps popping up whenever something negative about The Passion is mentioned?
I've already said why the movie sucks in my opinion, and thats certainly not entirely Mel's fault. Or it is? After all, it was his idea. He chose the book, he chose the cast, he directed it. It was "his" movie all around.
But i addressed other reasons. The movie is terrible because, in my opinion, it's a terrible movie, not because Mel directed it
but I'm not judging his skills with an eye on his personal beliefs, although one could say the anti-semitism in the movie fits pretty well with the Gibsons family.
Would people still complain about that movie based on it was made by a *racist*?
I have no prejudices towards Gibson. If he makes a good movie, I recognize it. If he makes a travesty, i recognize it. This is a travesty
Forefinger
09-10-2007, 06:07 AM
I have seen many chick flicks in theaters, thanks to my wife. I can't even count how many piece of crap films that I've watched in theaters. I guess that bad theater choices I made.......Superman Returns and Spider-Man 3, while I let other things that I really wanted to watch come out on DVD first.
Kristofer
09-10-2007, 06:45 AM
I was the only person in the theatre for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Johnny Depp version)
Mortal Kombat: Annihilation was a HUGE disappointment.
Jason X was just....umm....wtf ????
Michael P
09-10-2007, 07:44 PM
Yet this brings me makes me wonder suppose it was a diffrent director that isn't known as a racist. Would people still complain about that movie based on it was made by a *racist*?
A movie that disturbingly violent, that misses the point so broadly? Yeah, I figure they would.
Black Atom
09-10-2007, 08:03 PM
Yet this brings me makes me wonder suppose it was a diffrent director that isn't known as a racist. Would people still complain about that movie based on it was made by a *racist*?
There's a lot of legit reasons to dislike The Passion, really. And the movie came out a good time before Gibson's racist rant. The only thing you can really call him on is the depiction of the Jews, which wasn't wildly exaggerated beyond what anyone who'd read the New Testament already knew.
GrifterWC
09-10-2007, 10:25 PM
Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3 - I was unfortunate to be on a double date (doing my friend a favor and this is the movie the "girls" chose). Best thing to happen all night was that I slept through 3/4 of it.
X-Men 3 - Again, I went with my friend and the movie was as I thought it would be.
The Abyss - The only movie I have ever walked out on.
One I suffered all the way through Batman and Robin.
Worst ones that I can recall my wife dragged me too. City of Angels, Elizabethtown and Family Stone. Boring.
Thorlief
09-11-2007, 02:12 AM
The Grinch
man what a godawfully stinky movie. So flippen cheesy I wanted to walk out after the first 30 minutes, but I was with my small cousin so..
Police Academy 7
I wanted to kill myself..after killing everyone involved in this turd
American Soldiers
even if you support the war of terror, you'll suddenly feel ashamed for it after watching this Z- rated parade. I found it hilarious anyways
Scorpion13
09-11-2007, 02:15 AM
A movie that disturbingly violent, that misses the point so broadly? Yeah, I figure they would.
Yeah. Go figure, right?
StoneGold
09-11-2007, 02:30 AM
The Grinch
man what a godawfully stinky movie. So flippen cheesy I wanted to walk out after the first 30 minutes, but I was with my small cousin so..
Police Academy 7
I wanted to kill myself..after killing everyone involved in this turd
American Soldiers
even if you support the war of terror, you'll suddenly feel ashamed for it after watching this Z- rated parade. I found it hilarious anyways
I don't know what the third movie is, but really, the first two, you have no one to blame but yourself. Oh gee, maybe Police Academy 7 is the one where the series turns around.
Thorlief
09-11-2007, 02:37 AM
I know, I know. That does still make me feel bad about the money I spent on
Your Imaginary Pal
09-11-2007, 03:26 AM
Held up
A Jaime Foxx flick I saw with a date.
I haven't seen a Jaime Foxx movie since, not even Ray.
It was that bad, and I paid for both people and popcorn.
The 13th Floor
thank G_d I forgot what it was about. It was so bad my girlfriend withheld sex.
Ghosts Of Mars
If any else saw this they know what I mean.
Black Atom
09-11-2007, 10:30 AM
The New World with Colin Ferrel. Uuugh what an agonizing film.
mattx110
09-11-2007, 10:50 AM
The New World with Colin Ferrel. Uuugh what an agonizing film.
it was editting amazingly odd. it probably needed to be a 4 hour movie and they just had to cut it down or something. and well, 3 of those hours would have been talking.
but it has more akward segues than any film i've ever seen.
4thHorseman
09-11-2007, 10:59 AM
Alien vs Predator. My hopes were up for awesomeness, and let down by the time the film was through. Disappointing.
Rattlehead
09-11-2007, 11:00 AM
Rob Zombie's Halloween
Humanizing Micheal Myers was stupid beyond belief, I liked him more as a near anonymous shambling killing machine. I just kept thinking, I have the real movie at home on DVD.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning
The plot was completely ripped off from Texas Chainsaw 2, and it didn't even have the fun of a coked out, chainsaw wielding Dennis Hopper. Not even R. Lee Ermey could save that stinking pile of feces.
Batman Forever
I knew I was in trouble when they threw in a gratuitous butt-shot of Val Kilmer while he was suiting up. Naturally, it only got worse from there. And the neon, my eyes still hurt from all of the neon!
I would add Alexander, but I did get a nice hearty nap out of the deal.
GrifterWC
09-11-2007, 12:06 PM
One I suffered all the way through Batman and Robin.
Worst ones that I can recall my wife dragged me too. City of Angels, Elizabethtown and Family Stone. Boring.
I agree with Batman and Robin and City of Angels. Those I repressed until I saw it mentioned.
I'm also going to add Return of the Jedi while I'm still remembering some regrettable decisions.
The Zapper
09-12-2007, 09:53 PM
300. Again, didn't pay, but wanted my money back.
Cam63
09-13-2007, 01:38 AM
In no particular order...
" Batman and Robin " Bad, bad, BAD !
" Spawn " See above.
" Planet of the Apes " Boring and stupid.
" The Hulk " Except for the fight scenes with the tanks, it was a cure for insomnia and Nick Nolte was scarier as a drunk driver.
" The Matrix 3 " Weird and batshit boring.
Thorlief
09-13-2007, 03:31 AM
Predator 2
ugh, why, why me.
The Zapper
09-13-2007, 12:09 PM
The new Halloween. Rob Zombie can go f*ck himself.
Toku King
09-13-2007, 01:36 PM
"Doug: The Movie"
I drew the line with Disney after watching this flop.
Johnny_Luck
09-13-2007, 02:30 PM
Predator 2
ugh, why, why me.
Depends whats so bad, I thought it was pretty good compared the first film and I only seen the edited to hell tv version.
as for bad experiences Grindhouse which was amazing and the crowd around me were really into had my friend and his nagging about how much they thought it sucked, which ruined some of the feel to it.
jesse_custer
09-13-2007, 02:44 PM
I might get flak for this one, but "Saving Private Ryan" was a disapointment for me. The beginning was good, but is went to crap after that. Band of Brothers blows Saving Private Ryan in every way.
Ultimately, I don't think it matters who enjoyed "Saving Private Ryan" or not. To be honest, I can't enjoy the beginning as a great movie scene. I appreciate it as art. It's ugly, scary, and detailed. And the rest of the film has similar disturbing moments, like the doctor dying on his back while all the men put their hands on his bleeding gut wound, with the shot man crying for his mother before he goes.
Simply put, "Ryan" changed war movie fiction forever. The realism and intensity it displayed were later copied in "Band of Brothers" and "Blackhawk Down," and they will be borrowed again and again. Spielberg, if anything, should be commended for taking such artistic risks, only to watch others mimic them as if they're commodities.
The Zapper
09-13-2007, 02:47 PM
Call it art, call it whatever you like. It wont change my mind.
jesse_custer
09-13-2007, 02:48 PM
I realize that, but mentioning "Saving Private Ryan" in the same thread as "X3" is begging for a counter explanation.
The Zapper
09-13-2007, 02:49 PM
I realize that, but mentioning "Saving Private Ryan" in the same thread as "X3" is begging for a counter explanation.
Dude. I retract my statement. You have me dead to rights on that one.
jesse_custer
09-13-2007, 02:51 PM
Haha, no need to retract. I just thought it would tickle you to entertain another notion.
Shellhead
09-13-2007, 03:12 PM
I have very few movie theater regrets from the last 15 years, because as movies started getting expensive, I started getting cautious about what I bothered to go see. I would check out some spoiler-free reviews, ask friends what they thought, and if I still had doubts, I waited to rent the movie. And I am especially wary of comic book movies, which nearly always disappoint me. So, the last movie that I really regretted seeing in the theatre was Batman and Robin. My date actually liked it, and by coincidence, I stopped seeing her before we ever saw another movie.
Thorlief
09-13-2007, 03:58 PM
I have to catch my old SPR hate post and paste it here since the argument has been brought back
here you go
Saving Private Ryan
So the Omaha invasion was based on taking down two machine guns. Ok. This error is enough to crush even the only 15 good minutes in the movie
but theres more. Omaha beach is smaller than a swamp, Spielberg thinks
the Germans act as if they are a bunch of useless cannon fodder with no brain. They run, bomb, run, bomb, shout, run, shout, when it was a bit different in reality.
And a Panzer driving thru a pretty narrow street, asking for ambush.
the worst subtle patriotism I've ever seen. The cartoonish one in Pearl Harbour was reactionary in comparison. Spielberg ignores everything past WW2 about the Germans (Das Boot, for example) and sets the clock back to 1950. Notice this: no german soldier has a face, a word, a role. We just don't see em, theyre always from a distance.
At the end the flag waves for about what? 30 seconds? 25? 25 seconds too much.
bi-dimensional characters. See, its a movie not a documentary. You have to have someone to identify or at least sympathize with. In this one you have a bunch of paper soldiers you dont give a wild damn about.
the prisoner turning into a traitor. Holy moshe, thats totally unexpected. I been seeing similar things since that titanic-like Hitchcock movie, and its seriously painful to watch the ONLY one good german guy OBVIOUSLY becoming a traitor. Bad German bad! After our heroes free a German, Spielberg makes is very clear that he came back later to kill Tom Hanks. Spielberg is saying: they should've killed him the first time. The only good German is a dead one, apparently. Astonishing dishonesty and malice on the part of Spielberg. Not a trick was a spared to demonize every single one of them. The merciful americans let him go, of course, because they are merciful
the story is a COMPLETE JOKE. Marshall basically sends seven men to walk straight through 300 miles and the unstoppable German 7th Army, to find a guy named Ryan. Comic book nonsense.
it's a laughable pro-war propaganda movie. Spielberg failed big time
...but he redeemed himself with Band of Brothers. Now THAT'S something not painful to watch, but quite enjoyable instead. Sure, I still can find some issues but in general it was more accurate, with TRUE characters, good actors and less patriotism
there's also a bit of controversy when the American guy kills the prisoners! Wow.
and the germans aren't all beasts with no face. End of rant
Black Atom
09-13-2007, 04:19 PM
I'm not sure you're supposed to care about the Nazis. This movie isn't trying to convey the scope of the entire war. You're supposed to understand what it was like to have been a young man sent to fight in WWII. Maybe that's a narrow road to take in itself, but I think it served the story of this movie.
The Zapper
09-13-2007, 04:23 PM
I agree with pretty much everything you said Thorlief, but Jesee_Custer is right, It's a masterpiece compared to X3.
Jared H.
09-13-2007, 04:31 PM
Bug. Completely mis-advertised. Incredibly slow to start, then goes off the deep end during the latter 30 minutes.
Devil's Rejects. Hated it for the same reasons Rick enjoyed it: the attempted manipulation of the audience. I felt it was contrived and ill-done.
Night at the Roxbury. Walked out of this one. This is the movie that started me down the path of hating everything Chris Kattan has ever done(aside from dying in "House on Haunted Hill.")
If I had gone alone to Resident Evil: Nemesis, I would have hated it. As is, going late at night with a group f friends and ripped the hell out of it made for a great experience.
Black Atom
09-13-2007, 04:38 PM
I, too, walked out of Night at the Roxbury but I knew that one was going to suck. A friend was convinced it would be good and actually paid my way just to see it with him. Ten minutes in, I paid him back, left the theater and played in the arcade until he came out.
Thorlief
09-13-2007, 04:54 PM
I'm not sure you're supposed to care about the Nazis. This movie isn't trying to convey the scope of the entire war. You're supposed to understand what it was like to have been a young man sent to fight in WWII. Maybe that's a narrow road to take in itself, but I think it served the story of this movie.
it was supposed to be realistic and it ended up a joke, at least in my opinion. I for one don't give a damn about the Nazis and with good reason, but..no, just no. I found the movie disgusting for all the things I mentioned before
I agree with pretty much everything you said Thorlief, but Jesee_Custer is right, It's a masterpiece compared to X3.
I have no doubts about that either. Technically speaking SPR is a great movie
SnowTrooper
09-13-2007, 04:57 PM
Night at the Roxbury. Walked out of this one. This is the movie that started me down the path of hating everything Chris Kattan has ever done(aside from dying in "House on Haunted Hill.")
Oh man we are so opposite on this one. To this day Night at the Roxbury is in my top 3 favorite comedies of all time.
dupersuper
09-13-2007, 05:05 PM
Batman and Robin
Sgt. Bilko
Ghost Dad
Thorlief
09-13-2007, 05:08 PM
The peacemaker
eh, it had a lot of good premises, I felt asleep after 30 minutes and for the life of me can't remember a single thing about the plot
Black Atom
09-13-2007, 05:27 PM
Batman and Robin
Sgt. Bilko
Ghost Dad
The only other movie I walked out of.
Jared
09-13-2007, 05:38 PM
Saving Private Ryan
[QUOTE]So the Omaha invasion was based on taking down two machine guns. Ok. This error is enough to crush even the only 15 good minutes in the movie
but theres more. Omaha beach is smaller than a swamp, Spielberg thinks
the Germans act as if they are a bunch of useless cannon fodder with no brain. They run, bomb, run, bomb, shout, run, shout, when it was a bit different in reality.
So you're saying the battle was unrealistic because of too much running and shouting? And the whole sequence follows Hanks and his squad with hand-held cameras, you're not going to see the entire battle.
And a Panzer driving thru a pretty narrow street, asking for ambush.
Which I'm sure has never happened to any tank, ever. Not even has recently as the Russian invasion of Chechneya.
the worst subtle patriotism I've ever seen. The cartoonish one in Pearl Harbour was reactionary in comparison. Spielberg ignores everything past WW2 about the Germans (Das Boot, for example) and sets the clock back to 1950. Notice this: no german soldier has a face, a word, a role. We just don't see em, theyre always from a distance.
Umm...this is isn't even up for interpretation, it's flat out wrong. We do see some of their faces. They have no lines in English, but why would they? It's like complaining that Das Boot demonizes the allies.
the prisoner turning into a traitor. Holy moshe, thats totally unexpected.
Think about that for a moment. They captured a German, they had to let him go, he apparently rejoined with another German unit and kept fighting. There's nothing traitorous about that.
the story is a COMPLETE JOKE. Marshall basically sends seven men to walk straight through 300 miles and the unstoppable German 7th Army, to find a guy named Ryan. Comic book nonsense.
Though I doubt it was anywhere 300 miles, I can agree that the premise seems like a bit of a reach. Surely there must've been some unit closer to wear Ryan was thought to be that could have been tasked with finding him.
it's a laughable pro-war propaganda movie. Spielberg failed big time
A dark movie with the most graphic depictions of combat-violence ever made to that point, with a story all about questioning the sacrifices soldiers are asked to make for sometimes arbitrary means, is "pro war?" WTF? I mean, it's certainly not anti-war in the sense that the director is trying to suggest that the U.S. shouldn't have fought WWII. But it's not a "war is honor and glory" theme, by any means. I have no issue with you thinking it's a terrible movie, but you seem to think it's a terrible movie with messages completely the opposite of what is clearly being conveyed.
...but he redeemed himself with Band of Brothers. Now THAT'S something not painful to watch, but quite enjoyable instead. Sure, I still can find some issues but in general it was more accurate, with TRUE characters, good actors and less patriotism
Did Band of Brothers portray anything from the German side? Hell, there was an episode titled "Why We Fight" where Easy Company liberates a concentration camp. If anything, *that* was dishonestly patriotic, since stopping he holocaust is not why we were fighting the war.
The Batman
09-13-2007, 06:08 PM
Star Trek: Nemesis. That was a terrible movie.
Thorlief
09-13-2007, 06:46 PM
by Jared: So you're saying the battle was unrealistic because of too much running and shouting? And the whole sequence follows Hanks and his squad with hand-held cameras, you're not going to see the entire battle.
The battle was unrealistic for a lot of reasons. Besides the fact we see Miller and his men winning the beach almost all by themselves, the scope of the battle was simply ridiculous. I thought I was playing Medal of Honor. And thse german guns-MG42 I suppose- shoot way too slowly.
Oh, and every division sent before noon, in reality, was completely slaughtered
Which I'm sure has never happened to any tank, ever. Not even has recently as the Russian invasion of Chechneya.
Do you have an idea about how good were the Germans and their strategies? Had they used such a idiotic tactic, thrown in the movie just to show how idiots they were and how cool the good guys were, the war wouldve been over in one week. And what about the commander popping out the hatch? What a turd of a scene
Umm...this is isn't even up for interpretation, it's flat out wrong. We do see some of their faces. They have no lines in English, but why would they? It's like complaining that Das Boot demonizes the allies.
What faces? They're so fast edited you can catch an eye, a nose. The portrayal of the Germans encountered during the film is quite ludicrous. I certainly do not seek to defend the cause for which they fought, nor the moral integrity with which they often conducted themselves, but it cannot be denied by anyone with even the slightest knowledge of military history that they consistently out performed Allied units in the field time and again, despite being heavily outnumbered. They all appear to have been given convict haircuts, perhaps in a rather successful attempt to completely dehumanize them to the audience
Think about that for a moment. They captured a German, they had to let him go, he apparently rejoined with another German unit and kept fighting. There's nothing traitorous about that.
I admit I probably chose the wrong word. He was just a slimy, fake, soulless beast like all the other enemies in the movie
Though I doubt it was anywhere 300 miles, I can agree that the premise seems like a bit of a reach. Surely there must've been some unit closer to wear Ryan was thought to be that could have been tasked with finding him.
The premise sucks-. Marshal sending seven men to die to rescue one soldier just because..of what? After such strong prologue I couldve turned off the TV
A dark movie with the most graphic depictions of combat-violence ever made to that point, with a story all about questioning the sacrifices soldiers are asked to make for sometimes arbitrary means, is "pro war?" WTF? I mean, it's certainly not anti-war in the sense that the director is trying to suggest that the U.S. shouldn't have fought WWII. But it's not a "war is honor and glory" theme, by any means. I have no issue with you thinking it's a terrible movie, but you seem to think it's a terrible movie with messages completely the opposite of what is clearly being conveyed.
maybe, or maybe not. The sole fact Ryan stays there to fight instead of running back home to not give his mother another tragic pain, and to not make the men who saved him look like idiots, can already be enough
Did Band of Brothers portray anything from the German side? Hell, there was an episode titled "Why We Fight" where Easy Company liberates a concentration camp. If anything, *that* was dishonestly patriotic, since stopping he holocaust is not why we were fighting the war.
Yes, there was a episode portraying a surrending German general, and he also gave a superb speech to his troops. That's how you kind of balance things, and make a movie much more objective. Not portraying the enemy as beasts with no brain, not starting with Abe Lincoln and flowers and not following with flags, a idiotic Ryan who practically begs to fight instead of trying to not waste what seven men have done for him, Old Glory and "Earn it"
Jared
09-13-2007, 07:24 PM
The battle was unrealistic for a lot of reasons. Besides the fact we see Miller and his men winning the beach almost all by themselves, the scope of the battle was simply ridiculous.g
It was more like one section of one beach, which is even how they talked about it in the dialog. "Dog 1 is here, Dog 2 is over there!", etc...
I thought I was playing Medal of Honor.
Not the movie's fault that every WWII game since has done a take on its D-Day scene.
And thse german guns-MG42 I suppose- shoot way too slowly.
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Ok, now that's just nitpicking. Unless you were there, or you work with MG-42s for a living, I can't see how why that should bother you. It's still widely considered one of the most realistic battle depictions ever, and it certainly was the most realistic of WWII at the time of its release.
Oh, and every division sent before noon, in reality, was completely slaughtered
Well they can't possibly depict the whole battle in real-time. If you can't give them a pass on that, I can't imagine how you'd watch any war movie.
Which I'm sure has never happened to any tank, ever. Not even has recently as the Russian invasion of Chechneya.
Do you have an idea about how good were the Germans and their strategies? Had they used such a idiotic tactic, thrown in the movie just to show how idiots they were and how cool the good guys were, the war wouldve been over in one week. And what about the commander popping out the hatch? What a turd of a scene
And in every battle in every war, sometimes people make dumb mistakes. Hell, do you remember the American solider who takes his helmet off after a bullet pings off, then gets shot in the head? Things like that happen. In the Germans case, IIRC, they were rushing forces to secure that bridge ahead of the allied advance, no time to sweep the city for potential ambushes first.
What faces? They're so fast edited you can catch an eye, a nose. The portrayal of the Germans encountered during the film is quite ludicrous. I certainly do not seek to defend the cause for which they fought, nor the moral integrity with which they often conducted themselves, but it cannot be denied by anyone with even the slightest knowledge of military history that they consistently out performed Allied units in the field time and again, despite being heavily outnumbered. They all appear to have been given convict haircuts, perhaps in a rather successful attempt to completely dehumanize them to the audience
You already mentioned the prisoner, we definitely saw his face. We saw he was human, a terrified human, even.
Remember when Adam Goldber's character has to fight hand to hand? If you think that was a depiction of Man Against Monster, you truly were watching a totally different movie.
I admit I probably chose the wrong word. He was just a slimy, fake, soulless beast like all the other enemies in the movie
Again, why? Because he didn't get a monologue where he explained he was only doing it for his wife and kids back home?
The premise sucks-. Marshal sending seven men to die to rescue one soldier just because..of what? After such strong prologue I couldve turned off the TV
The reason was because Ryan was the last alive of four brothers in the service. If that part sounds far-fetched, bear in mind that it was inspired by the true story of five brothers who died aboard the same ship.
maybe, or maybe not. The sole fact Ryan stays there to fight instead of running back home to not give his mother another tragic pain, and to not make the men who saved him look like idiots, can already be enough
If Ryan had jumped at the chance to leave, you'd call him a coward and a traitor for abandoning his comrades before the battle.
Did Band of Brothers portray anything from the German side? Hell, there was an episode titled "Why We Fight" where Easy Company liberates a concentration camp. If anything, *that* was dishonestly patriotic, since stopping he holocaust is not why we were fighting the war.
Yes, there was a episode portraying a surrending German general, and he also gave a superb speech to his troops. That's how you kind of balance things, and make a movie much more objective.
One episode, out of what, 10? Does every war story have to give a speech to both sides? Is it so wrong to just tell a story about one small aspect of a larger picture: a single general, a single ship, or a single unit? Again I ask, where was the American captain giving his superb speech in Das Boot?
Not portraying the enemy as beasts with no brain, not starting with Abe Lincoln and flowers and not following with flags, a idiotic Ryan who practically begs to fight instead of trying to not waste what seven men have done for him, Old Glory and "Earn it"[/QUOTE]
"Earn this." :)
(personally, I think Hanks and co should have knocked him out and carried him but that wouldn't be much of an ending. )
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