Reaper

[DonC]

I caught a special showing of the pilot for this at Dragon*Con. For those that don't know, it's about a guy, Sam, whose parent's sold his soul to the devil before he was born. On his 21st birthday, Satan comes to collect. He comes and tells Sam that he wants Sam to hunt escapees from Hell.

It was damn good. Very funny and some pretty good action, too. The pilot (directed by Kevin Smith) has Sam and his friend Sock chasing a pyromaniac torching the same buildings he did when he was alive. It had some really nice fire effects, too.

My only complaint was the way they were marketing the show at the convention: It was all Kevin Smith-this and Kevin Smith-that. The show was good. They didn't need to hang their hat on the guy who directed one episode.

[Arvandor]

Haven't seen this particular pilot, but it sounds identical to a series that was on ages ago - about a guy, sentenced to Hell for killing the man who murdered his wife, that was commanded by the Devil to hunt down other souls that had escaped Hell.

It only lasted a season, but it was damn good stuff. Dammit! What was it called?

[xnef1025]

Brimstone. Awesome awesome show.

[Nate Grey]

And John Glover was the devil. I always thought that performance kinda put him on the map.

But yeah, I was thinking the same thing, that this is basically Brimestone only with a younger cast and funny.

[The Xenos]

Well this show is more like if Brimstone was a comedy, Brimstone by way of Dogma.

Also, dammit, when is Brimstone coming to DVD?

[SPAfreak]

But yeah, I was thinking the same thing, that this is basically Brimestone only with a younger cast and funny.

It has a younger cast. Funny? Not so much.

I love the irony of Christine Willes being on a show called Reaper though.

[Sir Lord Harris Chesterton]

Damn, I though this was on Gary Whitta's 2008 film Reaper... Story sounds like it too...
http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0426558/

[Nate Grey]

Alright, I just saw it. I gotta admit...not bad. The one I saw didn't have Missy Peregrym in it. Bret Harrison was actually pretty good. He can convey emotion and strength when the script calls for it. Ray Wise is good, but as good as he is, he's no John Glover.

[The Xenos]

Yeah. On a side note, anyone else sick of these lame one word titles that seem to get less creative each passing year. Hell, even shows I like such as this one (so far) or Heroes or Lost have terriblly simple title. Dear crap. Are we getting such bad attention spans as a society that we can't have shows with titles longer than Friends, The OC, House, or ER? Hell, even movies are doing it. Crap, they even shorten titles on remakes. Invasion of the Body Snatchers becomes The Invasion and The Poseidon Adventure became just Poseidon.

I almost want to see something like the upcoming 'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford' just for its title bucking the trend.

Alright, I just saw it. I gotta admit...not bad. The one I saw didn't have Missy Peregrym in it. Bret Harrison was actually pretty good. He can convey emotion and strength when the script calls for it. Ray Wise is good, but as good as he is, he's no John Glover.

Then again, who is? Well, besides John Glover. Hell, John Glover is so sexy that he makes me wish I were gay so I could want to have sex with him. Yup I'm gar for him, almost wish I was gay. Well, you know, except for that whole making out with guys thing and gay sex thing. Though other than THAT, I guess I'd be up for the gay thing if the guy was as awesome as John Glover.

Wait.. John Glover is openly gay, right? Or was that just a rumor? Anyway, he was awesome in that show and was one of the saving graces of Smallville. Though Peter Horton who played the cop was also good. I guess that and Millennium were just too grim for audiences.

[Nate Grey]

Yeah. On a side note, anyone else sick of these lame one word titles that seem to get less creative each passing year. Hell, even shows I like such as this one (so far) or Heroes or Lost have terriblly simple title. Dear crap. Are we getting such bad attention spans as a society that we can't have shows with titles longer than Friends, The OC, House, or ER? Hell, even movies are doing it. Crap, they even shorten titles on remakes. Invasion of the Body Snatchers becomes The Invasion and The Poseidon Adventure became just Poseidon.

I almost want to see something like the upcoming 'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford' just for its title bucking the trend.



Then again, who is? Well, besides John Glover. Hell, John Glover is so sexy that he makes me wish I were gay so I could want to have sex with him. He's that sexy.

lol Um, I meant he made a better devil. :D They both have the same "idea": the devil's the one in control of this particular situation and are having fun with it, want you to be okay (okay enough to do your job) but will pull your card in an instant to keep you in line. All with a smile on their face the whole time.

John Glover only had a season with Brimstone, so in theory if Reaper lasts longer than two seasons Ray Wise could knock John Glover off his throne. In theory. IF its lasts longer than two seasons.

Wait.. John Glover is openly gay, right? Or was that just a rumor? Anyway, he was awesome in that show and was one of the saving graces of Smallville. Though Peter Horton who played the cop was also good. I guess that and Millennium were just too grim for audiences.

I couldn't tell you. I just know he played twins in a movie once, one was Lionel Luthor-esque only more exaggerated, the other was a nice openly gay man who was dying of something.

[OhMyGato]

I have been hearing great stuff about this show since Comic-Con, but haven't seen it yet. Sounds really funny and different. I am really looking forward to this one's premiere. So cool Kevin Smith directed the pilot.

[The Xenos]

Eh. I was mostly joking. Plus I tossed in some lines I IMed to my openly gay friend who's kinda an actor. I also was IMing andother friend who's a Smallville fan and the topic got diverged to Allison Mack, but I won't repost those. Both for content and being off topic.

[Karl J Barnes]

Ray Wise makes a fantastic "Devil". The show was pretty witty though I was hoping for more laugh out loud moments. Still, the show shows alot of promise with the core characters that aren't caricatures. Definitely sticking around for next week's show.

[Atom_basher]

The chemistry in this show between the characters is REALLY nice, its kinda the chmistry i wish chuck had. ill be here the whole season for this show

[Ryan K]

Ray Wise was fantastic. And I usually hate Bret Harrison and was pleasantly surprised by his performance. I really enjoyed the first episode so I'll come back for a couple more.

[LtMarvel]

Yeah. On a side note, anyone else sick of these lame one word titles that seem to get less creative each passing year. Hell, even shows I like such as this one (so far) or Heroes or Lost have terriblly simple title. Dear crap. Are we getting such bad attention spans as a society that we can't have shows with titles longer than Friends, The OC, House, or ER? Hell, even movies are doing it. Crap, they even shorten titles on remakes. Invasion of the Body Snatchers becomes The Invasion and The Poseidon Adventure became just Poseidon.



"My Parents Sold My Soul to the Devil and All I Got Was This Lousy TShirt"

[Justin D.]

I liked the directness of it. No playing around with finding out why he owes the devil. Just the dad straight up saying, "We sold your soul to the devil because I was sick. We didnt think we'd have kids, so it was ok. Then, your mom got pregnant because the devil made our doctor lie to us. Oops, sorry."

Ray Wise was one of the big highlights of the show. He was great at easily moving from charming to menacing, perfect for someone playing the devil. One minute, he's making a joke about his favorite hockey team, and the next, he's threatening to kill Sam's mom and take her soul if Sam doesn't do what the devil tells him to do.

There were a few bumpy parts, but nothing that can't be worked out as the show progresses.

[The Xenos]

"My Parents Sold My Soul to the Devil and All I Got Was This Lousy TShirt"

See. What did that take you? Twelve seconds of thinking? Then again, they'd likely run it by marketing who's reject it by the fact that it doesn't sell in Peoria and that it takes more than half a second to say.

Let's see what's on the schedules...

Chuck
Reaper
Life
Journeyman
Dirty Sexy Money (Three words, but damn that's a cheap attention grab)
Bionic Woman
CSI
CSI: Miami
CSI: New York
CSI: Peoria
NCIS
Forensic Files (Oh wait.. no one watches this because this is real forensics and isn't a bunch of letters.)
Bones
Law & Order
Law & Order: SVU
Shark
24
ER
Las Vegas
The Unit
Lost
Heroes
House
Numb3rs
Lost
The Office
Smallville
and
American Idol

Hell, they could have just called Chuck "The Best Buy Nerd Who Wore Tennis Shoes." Never mind they took out the 'the' from The Bionic Woman. If it wasn't for the attention saying 'woman' gets you, I bet they'd just call it 'Bionic'.

OH and House should be called "It's not Lupus!" :D

[Nate Grey]

CSI: Peoria

Dammit I thought this was real. :mad:

Well, there's still hope they'll do a CSI: South Dakota. *fingers crossed*

[LtMarvel]

I saw Bioinic Woman's pilot online. The removal of "The" is justified.

[DF2506]

Saw this last night (taped it Tuesday, but didn't have the chance to see it till last night).

It was really good. Some parts were funny, some silly, some were "stupid funny", I liked all the characters (yes, even the buddy character), it had the right amount of action, it was a fun episode, AND a good pilot/setup episode.

IF they keep this show up, its going to be a really fun show to watch! Here's hoping!

DF2506

[Angel of Sorrow]

I already love this show.
Sock of course is my favorite and every time I see him I think of the main character from Megas XLR. No idea why. Anyways, read the description for the next episode, so I wanted to add this for those wanting to know.

The next soul eater is a remote-control monster truck, apparently. So it'll be interesting to see what new object is every week.

[Karl J Barnes]

I already love this show.
Sock of course is my favorite and every time I see him I think of the main character from Megas XLR. No idea why. Anyways, read the description for the next episode, so I wanted to add this for those wanting to know.

The next soul eater is a remote-control monster truck, apparently. So it'll be interesting to see what new object is every week.


It might be because, Sock is loud,weird,has that Soul patch and unkempt hair and he's just freakin' funny.

[kalorama]

Sock is clearly Kevin Smith's doppelganger, the same way Woody Allen, once he finally realized (about 25 years too late) that he was too old to be doing romantic-comedy leads starting castin guys who could do his schtick as his film's leads.

Reaper was the big surprise for me so far. Admittedly, I had low expectations (in part because of my general disdain for Smith's work) but the show really won me over right out of the gate. The mom's line, "We're proud of him for trying, but college made him sleepy" got a belly laugh out of me, and that's rare from TV comeedy. The show took a premise that could have easily collapsed into overwrought noir melodrama and infused it with some humor, heart, and pathos.

It's smart, funny, and a bit hearrtwarming. And I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's cancelled before the midway point of the season.

[kalorama]

Yeah. On a side note, anyone else sick of these lame one word titles that seem to get less creative each passing year. Hell, even shows I like such as this one (so far) or Heroes or Lost have terriblly simple title. Dear crap. Are we getting such bad attention spans as a society that we can't have shows with titles longer than Friends, The OC, House, or ER? Hell, even movies are doing it. Crap, they even shorten titles on remakes. Invasion of the Body Snatchers becomes The Invasion and The Poseidon Adventure became just Poseidon.

I almost want to see something like the upcoming 'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford' just for its title bucking the trend.

Don't really see it as an issue or a problem, as long as the title matches the show. (What else would you call a show about a bunch of emergency room doctors other than E.R.?)

The title is a marketing tool, and one of the elements of marketing a product is to make your point to the consumer directly and succinctly. People are bombarded with information and media these days and if you take too long to make your point, they'll tune you out. Short titles are also easier to work into ads and promos.

Besides, most of the titles you're complaining about are attached to dramas (some fairly dark), which tend not to really lend themselves to pithy puns and turns off phrases as titles.

[StoneGold]

Sock is clearly Kevin Smith's doppelganger, the same way Woody Allen, once he finally realized (about 25 years too late) that he was too old to be doing romantic-comedy leads starting castin guys who could do his schtick as his film's leads.

And I'd agree with you, if Smith was doing anything more than directing one episode. Hell, he doesn't even have a producer credit.

Now that said, I'm sure the producers were looking for a sidekick who could basically be a smoosh of Jay and Silent Bob. Since they got Smith to direct, that's probably a direction they were looking to head anyways.

[SnowTrooper]

I caught a replay of the pilot last night and I thought it was hilarious. Sock and Sam were both really funny, Ray Wise is awesome as The Devil, and Missy Peregrym is totally hot.

I really didnt expect to see that guy get caught under the zombonie, good to see that a comedy with The Devil can still be a little dark.

[Enigmanaut]

Haven't seen this particular pilot, but it sounds identical to a series that was on ages ago - about a guy, sentenced to Hell for killing the man who murdered his wife, that was commanded by the Devil to hunt down other souls that had escaped Hell.

It only lasted a season, but it was damn good stuff. Dammit! What was it called?

It's also similar to the plot of this little comic book from 1972 called Ghost Rider. Maybe you've heard of it. ;)

[StoneGold]

It's also similar to the plot of this little comic book from 1972 called Ghost Rider. Maybe you've heard of it. ;)

Not really. It's similar to the movie, but it's nothing like the comic. There was no "Hell's bounty hunter" aspect to the original book. He was just fighting Satan, not working for him.

[Enigmanaut]

Not really. It's similar to the movie, but it's nothing like the comic. There was no "Hell's bounty hunter" aspect to the original book. He was just fighting Satan, not working for him.

From the 'Pedia of Wiki:

Blaze was unaware that Mephisto had bonded him with the demon Zarathos as an act of revenge for not being able to obtain Johnny's soul for himself. Johnny was transformed into a Ghost Rider, a leather-clad skeleton, his head cloaked in a sheath of flame, the night after Crash's death. While Johnny still had his soul, he was forced to punish the wicked and evil upon Mephisto's demands whenever needed.

Blaze became a bounty hunter for Mephisto. Whenever he was in the presence of evil he would transform into the Ghost Rider, to exact the devil's revenge, returning the evil to Hell. Blaze was not completely lost in the transformation however, and would also help the innocent when they were in danger.

[StoneGold]

From the 'Pedia of Wiki:

Yes, but that would be Wikipedia. And a pretty good example of Wikipedia being wrong. I've read the original issues. I have the Essential. There's no bounty hunting going on. That whole paragraph is wrong. The presence of evil thing didn't happen until much later in the book. Originally, he transformed into GR at night. And they were never entities who escaped from Hell. Occasionally, they were assassins sent from Hell specifically to stop GR, but they were there on Satan's orders.


Here, read the Marvel.com entry for GR. No mention of bounty hunting at all.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Ghost_Rider_(John_Blaze)

Seriously, being Hell's bounty hunter would go completely against the whole concept of the bearded "friend" being Jesus. The story just wouldn't work if Johnny had a mission that had some level of purity to it.

[StoneGold]

I just went to the Wiki page myself, I don't see a single reference to bounty hunters. Either you are a low-down dirty liar, or I just deleted the reference.

[Enigmanaut]

I just went to the Wiki page myself, I don't see a single reference to bounty hunters. Either you are a low-down dirty liar, or I just deleted the reference.

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider_%28Johnny_Blaze%29) is the page I went to. I copied the text above and pasted it verbatim. If it's different now, it's clearly been edited.

[StoneGold]

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Rider_%28Johnny_Blaze%29) is the page I went to. I copied the text above and pasted it verbatim. If it's different now, it's clearly been edited.

Yes. I clearly edited it. I said I did. Which makes you not a dirty liar. Seriously though, that wasn't the only thing that was wrong with the article. Johnny didn't turn into GR when evil was around until over a year after the character was created. He used to just turn into him when the sun went down. The marvel.com entry is far, far more detailed and accurate. And it doesn't mention anything about being Satan's bounty hunter, because the closest he came to that was in the Ennis miniseries, which was written to re-introduce the character before the movie.

[Stony]

Ray Wise > John Glover

Yeah, I said it.

[Karl J Barnes]

Ray Wise > John Glover

Yeah, I said it.

If I didn't love Ray Wise,I'd say that you are crazy. Well, you might be crazy...but I think that both are equal in their devilish ways.

[DonC]

"My Parents Sold My Soul to the Devil and All I Got Was This Lousy TShirt"

Did I mention there was a gift for everyone attending the preview screening?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Don3172/1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Don3172/2.jpg

[LtMarvel]

Did I mention there was a gift for everyone attending the preview screening?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Don3172/1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Don3172/2.jpg
bwahahahahahahahahaha

[StoneGold]

Second episode was still pretty good. I'm starting to wonder if the third friend, the one whose name I don't remember but has the funky hair, is going to get horribly maimed every week.

[Pauly T]

All I can think when I watch this show is, "If they got rid of the stupid devil stuff, this show would be pretty entertaining."

[Dreadstar]

All I can think when I watch this show is, "If they got rid of the stupid devil stuff, this show would be pretty entertaining."

If they got rid of the stupid devil stuff, it'd be Buffy the Vampire Slayer Lite.

[Justin D.]

All I can think when I watch this show is, "If they got rid of the stupid devil stuff, this show would be pretty entertaining."

That would mean getting rid of Ray Wise, and he's one of the best parts of the show.

I like that the Devil is trying to help out Sam, but he's still evil. My only complaint about the show right now is that the capture of the demons has been anti-climactic both episodes. That might be the point though. It's not about capturing the demon, but everything else that goes on in his life is affected by having to try.

[Justin D.]

If they got rid of the stupid devil stuff, it'd be Buffy the Vampire Slayer Lite.

I'm not even sure how it would be that. Without the devil stuff, it'd be a show about a guy's life living at home, trying to get with the girl he works with, work antics, and that's about it. The Devil stuff creates conflict and purpose for the character where he didn't have it before.

[Dreadstar]

I'm not even sure how it would be that. Without the devil stuff, it'd be a show about a guy's life living at home, trying to get with the girl he works with, work antics, and that's about it. The Devil stuff creates conflict and purpose for the character where he didn't have it before.

Nah, I just meant getting rid of the devil connection, but not the reaper bit. Separate the two as if they weren't inextricable.

"Son, it's your 21st birthday, and we're sorry to tell you that you have to carry on the family business."

[Pauly T]

More specifically, I'd keep the devil connection and lose the reaper bit. I enjoy Ray Wise as the devil, but I still find that whole aspect the least interesting thing about the show. I guess I'm just tired of every show having some stupid supernatural "hook". I just think the retail megastore is a great backdrop for a good workplace comedy, and without the unholy action connection Reaper would be on par with The Office or 30 Rock. It's smart, funny, and well-written, but the main premise of the show just seems like a huge distraction.

I guess I just miss The Loop.

[Dustin Griffin]

I caught the premiere and I thought it was pretty good. The jokes actually had me laughing at several points and I thought the plot was fairly entertaining. The true trial will be how the second episode fairs without Kevin Smith.

[StoneGold]

That would mean getting rid of Ray Wise, and he's one of the best parts of the show.

I like that the Devil is trying to help out Sam, but he's still evil. My only complaint about the show right now is that the capture of the demons has been anti-climactic both episodes. That might be the point though. It's not about capturing the demon, but everything else that goes on in his life is affected by having to try.

I think the problem is the escaped souls have been personality-less so far. They've just been random monsters.

Still, the show is essentially what if Xander were the Slayer, were surrounded by the Xander to Xander as sidekicks, meaning Xander squared, and if Giles was a magical Frank Sinatra.

[Loren]

I caught the second episode last night, because nothing else was on, and I rather enjoyed it. I think I'll tune in again.

I couldn't help but think 'Brimstone meets Wonderfalls' while watching it, though.

[Donald M.]

I think the problem is the escaped souls have been personality-less so far. They've just been random monsters.


Yes, definitely. If the escaped souls are nothing but "the gimmicky power of the week" every episode, the whole thing's going to get old pretty fast.

[Phil Clark]

Any bets on how long it is before they tap the "she is so hot she can't be an escapee from Hell, and dang she wants me" storyline?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I love this show. I saw the Priemere on Thursday as a repeat and saw episode #2 on Tuesday. Its a fun good show . I hope the CW stays with it.

[SPAfreak]

Despite being thoroughly unimpressed by the pilot I actually enjoyed the second episode. I hope the show continues on for a while.

[kalorama]

I caught the premiere and I thought it was pretty good. The jokes actually had me laughing at several points and I thought the plot was fairly entertaining. The true trial will be how the second episode fairs without Kevin Smith.

Actually, Smith was listed as a "consultant" in the credits of the second episode, so he apparently has more than a one-time role as director on the show.

[SPAfreak]

Actually, Smith was listed as a "consultant" in the credits of the second episode, so he apparently has more than a one-time role as director on the show.

His role could just be a paycheck for lending his name to the show. That'd be pretty cool for the guy.

Didn't he have a hand in creating the show?

[Mac Danny]

Wow, the CW isn't making it easy to watch this show online.

It's one of the shows NOT available to watch online and itunes doesn't carry it.

I would DVR it but it competes with other Tuesday night stuff.

What's a guy got tot do to catch an episode online? Come on WB! hook a guy up!

[Donald M.]

So, is the vessel going to get damaged every week now? That's not gonna get old . . .

[LtMarvel]

What Tuesday night stuff? This is the only show I watch in prime time on Tuesdays...

[Lord of Denial]

So, is the vessel going to get damaged every week now? That's not gonna get old . . .


That's the least of the shows problems.


It's the same damn show every week. The same things happen at the same time each episode.

1. Sam complains to the Devil about how he is not cut out for the job
2. The Devil gets annoyed and tell Sam he really has no choice
3. Sam pines away and flirts with Andi
4. Sam gets the vessel and he and his two friend wonder how it captures souls.
5. Sam and Sock visit City Hall and get records about the new villain of the week.
6. The vessel gets damaged
7. The manager remains Sam what a slacker he is
8. They repair the vessel
9. Sam tells his two friends he can do it alone
10. The two friends decide to help anyway and they outfit themselves with gear from The Work Bench.
11. Capture Soul Oh the Week
12. See DMV

You seen the first episode then just repeat twice.

[Spidey-kid1]

From the 'Pedia of Wiki:

I loved this show, but it also reminded my a lot of Ghost rider. Either way, this show is funny. I loved the main dudes friend. Funny as hell. He's cool too.:D

[Mac Danny]

What Tuesday night stuff? This is the only show I watch in prime time on Tuesdays...

It falls in the same time as House and The Unit. I enjoy both.

[LtMarvel]

House I can respect.

I was secretly hoping for "The Biggest Loser" so I could riff on you....:D

[hugh45]

That's the least of the shows problems.


It's the same damn show every week. The same things happen at the same time each episode.

1. Sam complains to the Devil about how he is not cut out for the job
2. The Devil gets annoyed and tell Sam he really has no choice
3. Sam pines away and flirts with Andi
4. Sam gets the vessel and he and his two friend wonder how it captures souls.
5. Sam and Sock visit City Hall and get records about the new villain of the week.
6. The vessel gets damaged
7. The manager remains Sam what a slacker he is
8. They repair the vessel
9. Sam tells his two friends he can do it alone
10. The two friends decide to help anyway and they outfit themselves with gear from The Work Bench.
11. Capture Soul Oh the Week
12. See DMV

You seen the first episode then just repeat twice.

It seems this show is getting real close in being like those lame sitcom shows when everything is tied up nicely in the end. The devil, is he a devil or angel??
:confused:

[Justin D.]

Last night's show was a good one because the villain wasn't as much of a background character as villains were in the other shows. Eventually, Sam's going to face an escapee from Hell that he likes and won't know what to do.

Setting up the love interest with Andi in the first episode was much too soon, but it seems like a standard for many TV shows to do that. The relationship could have been much more smoothly introduced if the only hint of a crush on Sam's part came from the conversation at the end of last night's episode. A budding relationship would seem more natural then. Maybe they'll lay off the relationship angle for a bit, or at least, let us see them as friends before seeing them as a potential couple.

[LtMarvel]

Did they describe how/why souls are escaping?

[Lord of Denial]

Did they describe how/why souls are escaping?


Well he seems in a lot of fictional universes Hell has a sign marked " Exit" one can just walk thru. You would think Satan would make it a one way trip and only he can travel both ways.

But it seems the Devil in a lot of universes is an absolute idiot.

[Justin D.]

Did they describe how/why souls are escaping?


Nope, because Sam hasn't asked yet. Given how the character has acted so far, that seems believable to me. We'll find out when Sam wants to know or when Satan chides Sam for not wanting to know.

I think Satan is anything but an idiot on this show, and I don't think there's any doubt about him being a devil or an angel. Yes, he managed to get Andi's classes canceled, but that means everyone else's classes were canceled as a result. It could be seen as Satan doing Andi a favor because she wasn't ready to go back to college yet, but I prefer to think of it another way. Satan is all about instant gratification. What's interesting is how Sam didn't catch on to that being a bad thing.

[Pixie_Solanas]

The pilot was exceedingly funny (thanks to Kevin Smith's script). Each subsequent ep has been less and less so.

[Justin D.]

The pilot was exceedingly funny (thanks to Kevin Smith's script). Each subsequent ep has been less and less so.

Kevin Smith didn't write the first episode. He directed it and is executive producer of the series.

[Ugoff]

Tried to edit my post but it wouldnt let me do it. I havent seen the first two episodes but I saw the third ep yesterday. I like this show but I didnt find it very funny. It felt very flat and kinda boring. I didnt enjoy the workplace stuff either cuz nobody seems to be working and they seem to come and go when they want. That doesnt bother me so much with Chuck cuz it's a much better show. I was really looking forward to this show cuz I like the concept and I enjoy the actor with the spiky hair. Speaking of which that guy has been on so many shows and usually they dont last very long no matter how good they are. I'm not saying it's his flaut cuz I do like him as an actor. Also the supernatural aspects of this show just arent entertaining or scary. The action is just flat, there but flat. A good show, I like it but I doubt I'll be a faithful viewer. Maybe catch a re run when nothing else good is on.

[Shellhead]

I caught an episode last night. It was amusing that they got Adrian Paul to play a sword-wielding demon.

Comparisons with Brimstone are inevitable, so I will make them. Brimstone was fairly serious, with a few humorous remarks. Reaper is humorous, but at least serious enough to go with a coherent plot. Otherwise, they are approximately the exact same show.

For me, it comes down to the Devil. Ray Wise was a great choice, because he definitely has a devilish cast to his features, and his acting is up to par, too. At times, I half-expected to see actual horns begin to sprout from his forehead, or steam come out of his ears. But that's a really obvious approach to the role, and I am wondering if maybe half the actors in Hollywood might be able to pull off a decent Satan. Jack Nicholson, Al Pacino, yes and yes. Danny Devito, sure, why not? Robin Williams? Well, that might fit my definition of Hell if he went all Mork from Ork.

John Glover took a more subtle approach to playing the Devil. At times familiar or haughty, sarcastic or serious, he was always proud and elegant. That really worked for me, because I could absolutely see him as a proud fallen angel turned to evil. Ray Wise doesn't seem to have that kind of range, or at least his role doesn't offer that kind of depth.

[StoneGold]

I caught an episode last night. It was amusing that they got Adrian Paul to play a sword-wielding demon.

Comparisons with Brimstone are inevitable, so I will make them. Brimstone was fairly serious, with a few humorous remarks. Reaper is humorous, but at least serious enough to go with a coherent plot. Otherwise, they are approximately the exact same show.

For me, it comes down to the Devil. Ray Wise was a great choice, because he definitely has a devilish cast to his features, and his acting is up to par, too. At times, I half-expected to see actual horns begin to sprout from his forehead, or steam come out of his ears. But that's a really obvious approach to the role, and I am wondering if maybe half the actors in Hollywood might be able to pull off a decent Satan. Jack Nicholson, Al Pacino, yes and yes. Danny Devito, sure, why not? Robin Williams? Well, that might fit my definition of Hell if he went all Mork from Ork.

John Glover took a more subtle approach to playing the Devil. At times familiar or haughty, sarcastic or serious, he was always proud and elegant. That really worked for me, because I could absolutely see him as a proud fallen angel turned to evil. Ray Wise doesn't seem to have that kind of range, or at least his role doesn't offer that kind of depth.

I think you might be overexamining Wise's acting in the show. It's Frank Sinatra as the Devil. Frankie doesn't leave much room for subtelty.





I will kill for the one of the escaped souls to be Kurtwood Smith. I'm still pissed that Peter Weller never guested on That 70s Show, or that Smith never showed up in that one season of 24 where every other Robocop cast member guested.

[kalorama]

The pilot was exceedingly funny (thanks to Kevin Smith's script). Each subsequent ep has been less and less so.

I agree the pilot was more laugh out loud funny than subsequent eps, but there's still plenty of humor in the show. It's just darker more retsrained humor. I actually think the show has gotten better since the pilot. Unlike Chuck, which rides the premise mercilessly and shoehorns everything else in around it, Reaper does a nice job of making the show about the characters and their relationships and working the premise in around that.

And I love watching Ray Wise, in part because he looks like he's having the time of his life playing the personification of evil. Gotta like a man who loves his work.

[Tobias March]

I watched the ep last night with the magician. It was pretty poor stuff. Seemed to lack any focus really. Various ingredients for the episode are displayed to us after the opening, much like Martha Stewart, but then everything goes wrong when it's time to put it in the oven.

Kinda like Martha there too actually.

[StoneGold]

I watched the ep last night with the magician. It was pretty poor stuff. Seemed to lack any focus really. Various ingredients for the episode are displayed to us after the opening, much like Martha Stewart, but then everything goes wrong when it's time to put it in the oven.

Kinda like Martha there too actually.

I'd have to disagree. I really can't say much more than that, I just had fun with last night's show. I get a kick though out of how his buddy that isn't Sock constantly gets maimed by the escaped souls. Good grief, it's a running joke!

[kalorama]

I really like this show. After Life, it's my favorite of the new season. I like the fact that it's not constantly hitting us over the head with the premise. For the most part, the "devil's bountuy hunter" stuff seems to serve. as a prop for the character-driven parts of the show. Although it was pretty clear from the ending of last night's ep that there's some subtler goings on behind the whole "parents sold my soul to the devil" premise than we've been led to believe.

[Pauly T]

Essentially, Reaper is a better version of Chuck.

[SPAfreak]

I think that I've seen every episode besides this week's and I've got a question: What happened to Sam's Telekinesis? Was it just something from the pilot that they got rid of?

[StoneGold]

I think that I've seen every episode besides this week's and I've got a question: What happened to Sam's Telekinesis? Was it just something from the pilot that they got rid of?

They didn't really sell the concept well in the pilot, but every week Sam gets different devil powers to help him out, in addition to the vessel. So it was telekinisis in the first one. One week it was everything he tried to eat turned to bugs. This week it was the tattoo clues. But the powers go away after the soul has been captured.

[SPAfreak]

They didn't really sell the concept well in the pilot, but every week Sam gets different devil powers to help him out, in addition to the vessel. So it was telekinisis in the first one. One week it was everything he tried to eat turned to bugs. This week it was the tattoo clues. But the powers go away after the soul has been captured.

Maybe I didn't get it but what did telekinesis have to do with the pyrokinetic? It was the only time I saw him with something useful. I mean slippery feet doesn't help in too many situations and I don't even recall a devil power in the episode with Mercedes McNab. Well, other than the devil telling Sam how to rev his date's engine.

[StoneGold]

Maybe I didn't get it but what did telekinesis have to do with the pyrokinetic? It was the only time I saw him with something useful. I mean slippery feet doesn't help in too many situations and I don't even recall a devil power in the episode with Mercedes McNab. Well, other than the devil telling Sam how to rev his date's engine.

Like I said, they didn't sell it well. The TK was too useful, compared to the rest of them, and made no sense, other than Carrie had them both. But I'm pretty sure the TK was supposed to be a temporary devil power.

[Atom_basher]

Essentially, Reaper is a better version of Chuck.

at the beginning of the season i would have totally agreed, but im starting to like chuck more now

[LtMarvel]

huh....I'm getting the opposite feeling. I loved "Had any good dreams lately?" moment.

[tangentman]

Sorry, but Chuck could never touch the Sock/Gladys clench! LOL I also think Sam sells the character type better. He's goofy but (to me) much more charming than Chuck. Sock is just pure genius, comically and conceptually superior to his Chuck analogue. Although, I admit that the love interest on Chuck easily trumps Andy.

Andy just seems..."bleh" to me. My roomie and I prefer to interpret the show as a budding Sam/Sock slash-fic. :evilsmile :D

[kalorama]

Essentially, Reaper is a better version of Chuck.

In a nutshell.

at the beginning of the season i would have totally agreed, but im starting to like chuck more now

After enjoying the pilot I almost wrote Chuck off after the letdown of the second episode. But after a few weeks it really started to improve. it's still nowhere near as good as Reaper, but it's gotten much better.

Sorry, but Chuck could never touch the Sock/Gladys clench! LOL I also think Sam sells the character type better. He's goofy but (to me) much more charming than Chuck. Sock is just pure genius, comically and conceptually superior to his Chuck analogue.

Agreed on all counts but the last one. I really like the dynamic of the Sam/Andy relationship. It's much more "real" than that "spy who pretends to love me but I'm really in love with" shtick on Chuck.

[tangentman]

Agreed on all counts but the last one. I really like the dynamic of the Sam/Andy relationship. It's much more "real" than that "spy who pretends to love me but I'm really in love with" shtick on Chuck.

I understand the writers' intention with Sam/Andy, but I find the Andy character boring. Typically, I can't wait until she's offscreen. Her story doesn't move me and for all the "reality", it just seems typical. The hot spy girl is a far-fetched cliche concept, but the actress seems more charismatic, imo.

[StoneGold]

I understand the writers' intention with Sam/Andy, but I find the Andy character boring. Typically, I can't wait until she's offscreen. Her story doesn't move me and for all the "reality", it just seems typical. The hot spy girl is a far-fetched cliche concept, but the actress seems more charismatic, imo.

Because she's Lois, in that she's too stupid to tell that it's Superman but with glasses, except minus all of the ballsy bitch factor that made Lois awesome.

[kalorama]

I understand the writers' intention with Sam/Andy, but I find the Andy character boring. Typically, I can't wait until she's offscreen. Her story doesn't move me and for all the "reality", it just seems typical.

That's pretty much the point (and why I like Reaper better than Chuck). It's supposed to be a typical young adult confused mating dance. The normalcy of the characters' relationships set against the backdrop of all the Satanic weirdness is part of the shows design and gives it an interesting push/pull contrast. As opposed to Chuck where even the little stuff seems distorted and tied into the implausibility of the premise, making it harder (for me at least) to buy into the more "real life" elements of family and romance, because they don't ring as true and thus don't engender as much emotion.

[tangentman]

kalorama, I'm NOT missing the point about Sam/Andy's relationship. I pretty much got it the first time I ever saw them interact. My complaint isn't with "The Dance", it's with Andy herself. The character bores me. I pray the writers find an out for her and bring in a genuinely interesting gal. Better yet, show some real balls, totally obliterate fan expectations in a true show of subversiveness, and hook up Sam with Sock. :D

[kalorama]

Well, if you're tuning in expecting hot man-on-man action then I kinda think you are missing the point.

[tangentman]

Well, if you're tuning in expecting hot man-on-man action then I kinda think you are missing the point.

It's not an expectation, more like a wish. Although I think THAT would show real creative balls, but I also know it'll never happen. Despite that frustration (said with tongue-in-cheek), I still hope Andy gets written out of the series.

[Nikita]

The more I watch this show, the more I enjoy it. It's quickly becoming one of my favorite new shows. And I'm pretty fickle when it comes to TV shows these days. Very charming and I love the "witty" humor in the show. Cracks me up.

[dupersuper]

The devils daughter kills flowers, pass it on.

[kalorama]

And fish.

I'm thinking she's not really his daughter, but that the Devil is causing the "death effect" around her in another attempt to screw with Sam's head and make his life miserable and unhappy, in part as payback for Sam's role in Mimi dumping him.

[KenK]

And fish.

I'm thinking she's not really his daughter, but that the Devil I causing the "death effect" around her in another attempt to screw with Sam's head and make his life miserable and unhappy, in part as payback for Sam's role in Mimi dumping him.

It's just the type of f***ed up thing the Devil would do.

[Lord of Denial]

I've missed the last few eps so I have a question.

Where did Sam's TK go?

Has he used it sense the first ep?

Did they just total forget about it and hope we would too?

[StoneGold]

I've missed the last few eps so I have a question.

Where did Sam's TK go?

Has he used it sense the first ep?

Did they just total forget about it and hope we would too?

Read back in the thread. It wasn't well said, but I think the TK was just supposed to be Sam's devil power for that week. Although he hasn't had a devil power in a while.

[Lord of Denial]

Read back in the thread. It wasn't well said, but I think the TK was just supposed to be Sam's devil power for that week. Although he hasn't had a devil power in a while.

What where some of the other ones?

[DonC]

What where some of the other ones?

In the magician episode, everything Sam tried to hold would disappear. That's the only one that comes to mind right away.

[Donald M.]

In the magician episode, everything Sam tried to hold would disappear. That's the only one that comes to mind right away.

Yeah, they aren't really powers. Mostly they're annoyances to remind him of what he's supposed to be doing.

The others I remember: In the episode with the energy company guy he kept suffering shocks from static electricity, in the episode with the bug lady insects kept appearing in inconvenient places, in the episode where devil set Sam up for murder tattoos kept appearing on him.

If these sorts of things have happened in other episodes, I can't recall. The Devil seems to be getting better about giving Sam more direct clues.

[Nikita]

Another good episode. (to me at least. But my standards aren't that high for this show since it's very "cheeky")

I'm not sure how this show is doing ratings wise though. I hope it doesn't get cancelled too soon. I'd miss Sock too much!

[Lord of Denial]

In the magician episode, everything Sam tried to hold would disappear. That's the only one that comes to mind right away.

That is not really a power per say just a clue on the nature of the soul he has to capture.

The TK was actually a power he could use offensively.

[Donald M.]

That is not really a power per say just a clue on the nature of the soul he has to capture.

The TK was actually a power he could use offensively.

Of course, it's entirely possible the TK was an element used in the pilot that they then decided not to use any further.

Entire characters have disappeared this way, their existence never to be acknowledged again.

[Lord of Denial]

Of course, it's entirely possible the TK was an element used in the pilot that they then decided not to use any further.

Entire characters have disappeared this way, their existence never to be acknowledged again.


Yeah Profiler was the king of this. Bring in African American character and see him go later in the season with not a line in the script telling why.

[Acecool]

Dude, I love the gay demons. What an fantastic addition to the show.

[Acecool]

That is not really a power per say just a clue on the nature of the soul he has to capture.

The TK was actually a power he could use offensively.


He is showing a bit more power now. In one episode he showed some super strength with he pushed sock. He thought it had something to do with the soul, but nothing really connected the soul to that occurrence. I think they are introducing powers slowly and making it evolve.

[Blueferret]

Dude, I love the gay demons. What an fantastic addition to the show.

I know Ian Black from Ed and various other things, but who's the other guy? He looks familiar but I can't place him.

[adamthered]

I know Ian Black from Ed and various other things, but who's the other guy? He looks familiar but I can't place him.


It's Ken Marino, who played Vinnie, Keith's rival P.I., on Veronica Mars.

[tangentman]

I know Ian Black from Ed and various other things, but who's the other guy? He looks familiar but I can't place him.

Unless I'm mistaken, Ian Black also played the snarky attorney from Wolfram & Hart in Angel's first season. Specifically, the one Faith beat within an inch of his life for condescension. :D

[Toku King]

Amazing show. I have episodes 1-12 on my iPod. Easily some of the best television in years.

[Toku King]

Read back in the thread. It wasn't well said, but I think the TK was just supposed to be Sam's devil power for that week. Although he hasn't had a devil power in a while.

I thought that too, but he used it again in the episode with the cannibal soul.
I just tend to skip over the telekinesis thing entirely.

[Toku King]

So far, what are your favorite episodes, and what are your favorite souls?

[Toku King]

Favorite episodes:
Pilot
Charged
All Mine
Leon
The Cop
Unseen

Favorite souls:
Fire Soul
Electric Soul
Magician Soul
Leon
Invisible Soul

[Toku King]

I'm watching episode 13 right now.
MY GOD! Andi finally admitted it! She finally told Sam she likes him! GO SAM!

[cap5]

I missed last thursdays show is there a way to see it online or on the website?

[Toku King]

I missed last thursdays show is there a way to see it online or on the website?

You can buy the episodes on iTunes.

[Toku King]

I just saw "Acid Queen". My goodness, that was amazing. Easily one of the best episodes of the series. I hated that they ended it on a cliffhanger, though!

[tangentman]

Meh, I was less than thrilled at Andi's latest show of "Chick Logic" and find it perfectly in character that she'd confess feelings for Sam when he's apparently dating another woman. Ugh. Sorry, she's my least favorite character on Reaper.

Far more compelling was the conversation at the end. I love the development with the gay demon neighbors! The conspiracy is actually an unexpected and nifty twist. Sam's relationship with the Devil certainly presented itself in a new light. I look forward to seeing that subplot explored.

C'mon late April--and THANK YOU, CW, for having the decency to move Reaper back to Tuesdays in time for Ugly Betty's return! :D

[Matt K]

I missed last thursdays show is there a way to see it online or on the website?

It'll show up on the CW web site in about 5 days.

[StoneGold]

I'm watching episode 13 right now.
MY GOD! Andi finally admitted it! She finally told Sam she likes him! GO SAM!

Yeah, and then he did the Peter Parker at the end of the first movie bit. Shot her down!


And for the record, Michael Ian Black and Ken Marino were on the sketch comedy show The State on MTV in the 90s.

[Toku King]

Meh, I was less than thrilled at Andi's latest show of "Chick Logic" and find it perfectly in character that she'd confess feelings for Sam when he's apparently dating another woman. Ugh. Sorry, she's my least favorite character on Reaper.

Far more compelling was the conversation at the end. I love the development with the gay demon neighbors! The conspiracy is actually an unexpected and nifty twist. Sam's relationship with the Devil certainly presented itself in a new light. I look forward to seeing that subplot explored.

C'mon late April--and THANK YOU, CW, for having the decency to move Reaper back to Tuesdays in time for Ugly Betty's return! :D

I love Andi! She's so sweet!
But yeah, it wasn't the best part of the episode(the Andi confession), but it was still a surprise to me. The best part could be soooo many things. The talk in the hospital, the 'Acid Queen' following Sam home, the conspiracy against the devil, the gay Demon(forgot his name) saving Sam's life, ect.

[Toku King]

Yeah, and then he did the Peter Parker at the end of the first movie bit. Shot her down!

That part was awesome, and completely explained to us Sam's thinking on situations. No matter how much it hurts him, others come first. He's like a low tier Spider-Man/Ghost Rider mix.

[Blueferret]

It's Ken Marino, who played Vinnie, Keith's rival P.I., on Veronica Mars.

Awesome!! You're right. Totally forgot that.

[SPAfreak]

Awesome!! You're right. Totally forgot that.

Stonegold nailed the more important point. Back in the 90's he was Louie on the State.

[DonC]

Breaking news on tvguide.com has Reaper being renewed for 13 episodes next season as a mid-season replacement.

[StoneGold]

Breaking news on tvguide.com has Reaper being renewed for 13 episodes next season as a mid-season replacement.

Yay! Better some than none! Although knowing it's 13 episodes for next season, it cushions the blow of it's inevitable cancellation!

[Lord of Denial]

Edited for stupidity.

[Toku King]

Gee they went with the clever and out of left field storyline of Sam being The Devil's son.

Maybe they want us to think that and will throw a curveball in the end.

Thanks for spoiling it.

[StoneGold]

Thanks for spoiling it.

It happened yesterday. That's not really a spoil.


For the most part, don't go into a thread about an entertainment event that happened the day before if you don't want to get spoiled.

[tangentman]

It happened yesterday. That's not really a spoil.


For the most part, don't go into a thread about an entertainment event that happened the day before if you don't want to get spoiled.

I disagree. Many folks DVR their shows because of evening jobs, school, and other things that keep them busy. Sometimes, that means waiting a day or two to catch up on a show. It's not unreasonable to ask posters to use *SPOILER* tags in the first 24 hours after an episode airs. It also doesn't require that much effort to use them.

[Pauly T]

Howsabout just staying out of the Reaper thread until you're up to date?

That's even easier than spoiler tags...

[Toku King]

It happened yesterday. That's not really a spoil.

And that means everyone saw it?

[Toku King]

Howsabout just staying out of the Reaper thread until you're up to date?

That's even easier than spoiler tags...

Because I like discussing the show?

[Pauly T]

See it first.

Then talk about it.

To think that those who saw the episode have to baby-proof their discussions of it until such a point when you decide to get yourself up to date is just a tad presumptuous, no?

[Toku King]

See it first.

Then talk about it.

To think that those who saw the episode have to baby-proof their discussions of it until such a point when you decide to get yourself up to date is just a tad presumptuous, no?

Maybe because, I dunno, I didn't know there were new episodes?

[cap5]

man this show gets better and better every week
I hope it gets picked up for a 2nd season

[bert]

man this show gets better and better every week
I hope it gets picked up for a 2nd season

already was. . as a mideseaon replacement.

but still, it was picked up.

[tangentman]

See it first.

Then talk about it.

To think that those who saw the episode have to baby-proof their discussions of it until such a point when you decide to get yourself up to date is just a tad presumptuous, no?

No, it's not "presumptuous", it's simply a matter of courtesy. What I find presumptuous is the way you cavalierly dismissed anyone from the thread who might be a day behind. Discussions aren't always exclusively limited to the episode of the week during the week it airs. Members often discuss ongoing points, ask questions, and keep dialogs going on different elements of a show. A person could see an update and come hoping that a particular conversation was being updated.

Expecting SPOILER tags four days from the airing would be unrealistic. Asking for them less than 24 hours after a new episode is not unreasonable, and I think we can extend the very minor effort of showing courtesy to people who are probably trying to catch up.

[Acecool]

I disagree. Many folks DVR their shows because of evening jobs, school, and other things that keep them busy. Sometimes, that means waiting a day or two to catch up on a show. It's not unreasonable to ask posters to use *SPOILER* tags in the first 24 hours after an episode airs. It also doesn't require that much effort to use them.

Yeah, but I remember weeks ago I was telling my Fiance that Sam is probably the Devil's son. This isn't exactly left field, there were tons of clues.

(non clues that only make sense now such as his parents always treating sam a bit better than they did his brother)

1st. Dad ripping out pages in the contract.

2nd. Weird things happening around Sam such as super powers and things dying. If it wasn't his chick, it might just be Sam.

3rd. The devil gave Sam a get out of Hell free card.

4th. The little favors the Devil does for Sam here and there, such as giving him a free shot at the guy who was trying to get Andi.

5th. The fact that the Devil didn't just zap Sam on the occasions that Sam interfered in getting a new soul, or when he betrayed The devil.

6th. The biggest one, that the Devil talks to Sam. The demons pointed out how out of the ordinary that was.

However that doesn't mean that he actually IS the devil's son. So far that is conjecture on the parts of the demons.

[tangentman]

Yes, but not everyone reaches such conclusions so early. Even if there's a community theory out there, individual fans might appreciate the chance to experience that revelation by watching the show--not reading a post blurb. The question takes me back to a spoiler at YABS about a crucial moment in Y: The Last Man. I wanted to kill the member who blabbed it, as I was catching up to the current story.

[Acecool]

Yes, but not everyone reaches such conclusions so early. Even if there's a community theory out there, individual fans might appreciate the chance to experience that revelation by watching the show--not reading a post blurb. The question takes me back to a spoiler at YABS about a crucial moment in Y: The Last Man. I wanted to kill the member who blabbed it, as I was catching up to the current story.

I can understand why you are a little upset about being spoiled on such a revelation. Still when Ironman came out and I had not seen it yet, I avoided threads about it like the plague. I didn't even bother to watch online videos about it because I didn't want to be spoiled. Non the less, I can understand what that is like.

You, though should understand that some people may get a bit over zealous when they post and perhaps a bit thought less. We've all been there. Ya just have to talk about this cool thing you just found out. The likelihood is that after an episode of a show like reaper, there are going to be people talking about it online.

note: I came up with that theory independent of any outside information or community.

[Toku King]

I can understand why you are a little upset about being spoiled on such a revelation. Still when Ironman came out and I had not seen it yet, I avoided threads about it like the plague. I didn't even bother to watch online videos about it because I didn't want to be spoiled. Non the less, I can understand what that is like.

You, though should understand that some people may get a bit over zealous when they post and perhaps a bit thought less. We've all been there. Ya just have to talk about this cool thing you just found out. The likelihood is that after an episode of a show like reaper, there are going to be people talking about it online.

note: I came up with that theory independent of any outside information or community.

I didn't know that there were new episodes, though. Not everyone has television. I only have iTunes.

[kalorama]

It's pretty much established protocol that people discuss what happened on the most recent episode after seeing it. If someone hasn't seen it yet, the onus is on them to avoid spoilers, because it's pretty unreasonable to expect everyone else to somehow be able to intuit whether every one of the millions of people watching the show has seen the latest episode yet, let alone know how long they should have to wait to discuss it until everyone has. It's like a book club. If you haven't read the book but come to the discussion anyway, you have to expect that people will talk about what happened on page 212. That's the whole point of the discussion.

[Lord of Denial]

I am sorry for those that did not see it. It was an totaly innocent mistake that I tried to correct as soon as it was pointed out.

But I do tend to agree that if the thread has not been posted on in awhile and then is revived after the latest scheduled airing it stands to reason that that episode is being discussed in some way.

In the future I will use spoiler tags if someone could remained me how.

Thanks.

[Toku King]

I am sorry for those that did not see it. It was an totaly innocent mistake that I tried to correct as soon as it was pointed out.

But I do tend to agree that if the thread has not been posted on in awhile and then is revived after the latest scheduled airing it stands to reason that that episode is being discussed in some way.

In the future I will use spoiler tags if someone could remained me how.

Thanks.

I didn't know that there were new episodes, though.

[Wild Card]

With Reaper being one of the few shows on the CW that don't plug their music. It's no wonder that it's renew is in question.

As for last night's ending Sam's Mom digging Dad out of the trap. I think that Sam's Dad is really an angle who was sent by GOD to mess with the devil. (or maybe he decided to do this on his own?)

[Legato]

With Reaper being one of the few shows on the CW that don't plug their music. It's no wonder that it's renew is in question.

As for last night's ending Sam's Mom digging Dad out of the trap. I think that Sam's Dad is really an angle who was sent by GOD to mess with the devil. (or maybe he decided to do this on his own?)

I had a vibe that Sam's dad is more than he seems. I dont really think that The Devil is Sam's actual father.

By going with the style of the show why follow on that cliche.


Now the twist on Sam's dad actually being a fallen angel would be something

[Shadowfax32]

With Reaper being one of the few shows on the CW that don't plug their music. It's no wonder that it's renew is in question.

As for last night's ending Sam's Mom digging Dad out of the trap. I think that Sam's Dad is really an angle who was sent by GOD to mess with the devil. (or maybe he decided to do this on his own?)

It's been picked up for a 2nd season. It starts up again in December.

[Toku King]

I saw the season finale, and wow. That was something else.
Personally, I would think that Sam would be more sad about his father's death, but still.

[Toku King]

What an amazing season. This is easily one of the best shows in years.
Ray Wise as the Devil may possibly be one of the greatest villains in television history.

[Tobias March]

What an amazing season. This is easily one of the best shows in years.
Ray Wise as the Devil may possibly be one of the greatest villains in television history.

You mean Leland Palmer is out of the running!? :wink:

[Toku King]

So, who were your favorite escaped souls this season?

[Jack]

The finale just aired here last night, and I'd say right now my guess would be that Sam's dad is an incubus who fell in love with a human and made a deal with Satan to be able to kiss her without draining her life. That fits the basic outline of the deal, in that there was something "wrong" with Sam's dad that the Devil fixed at the price of their first born son's soul. They also believed that they couldn't conceive children because they belonged to different species.

Sam is a demon, but with an innocent soul that wasn't tarnished in the Fall. The Devil is trying to corrupt Sam in order to prove God wrong, and based on Steve's appearance they may actually be competing over Sam's soul.

[Justin D.]

The finale just aired here last night, and I'd say right now my guess would be that Sam's dad is an incubus who fell in love with a human and made a deal with Satan to be able to kiss her without draining her life. That fits the basic outline of the deal, in that there was something "wrong" with Sam's dad that the Devil fixed at the price of their first born son's soul. They also believed that they couldn't conceive children because they belonged to different species.

Sam is a demon, but with an innocent soul that wasn't tarnished in the Fall. The Devil is trying to corrupt Sam in order to prove God wrong, and based on Steve's appearance they may actually be competing over Sam's soul.

That's a great theory.

Steve and Tony might be two of my favorite TV characters now.

Ray Wise is awesome as Satan, but apparently Anthony Stewart Head auditioned for the role. That could've been damn cool too. I love Wise's charming but menacing version though.

[Jack]

That's a great theory.

Steve and Tony might be two of my favorite TV characters now.

Ray Wise is awesome as Satan, but apparently Anthony Stewart Head auditioned for the role. That could've been damn cool too. I love Wise's charming but menacing version though.
I absolutely loved their reaction to Sam saying he didn't want to hang out with them because they're demons.

[Holacik]

I absolutely loved their reaction to Sam saying he didn't want to hang out with them because they're demons.Ha! That was Classic.