what will Bruce banner think of all this

[IamtheRock3]

when he eventully change back


Would he be even more disgusted with the Hulk. Would he hate the illumanties. Be more proactive in stopping the Hulk

How you think he react

[Ancient-Anubis]

when he eventully change back


Would he be even more disgusted with the Hulk. Would he hate the illumanties. Be more proactive in stopping the Hulk

How you think he react

have you not read WWH we know how he feels :p

[marty is ruling]

have you not read WWH we know how he feels :p

I must have missed that issue or over-looked the panel. All I can remember is Trauma taking the form of Banner.

What does Banner say? And what issue?

[Samuraixsithlord]

Dr. Strange visits the Hulk in his mindscape or whatever. and it appears that he's able to talk Bruce into stopping his war on the Illumanti. But it was all a ploy to get strange to drop his guard so the Hulk could attack


as far as i know. Bruce is backing the Hulk 100%. which makes the Hulk the most dangerous he's ever been because he doesn't have the mental turmoil of Bruce trying to stop his actions

[thronzeblast]

Bruce has appearently past his im so tortured pitty me im trapped in the body of a monster phase.It's a very very bad thing for who ever the hulk is fighting when he and bruce are of the same mind about something.

[Bryson the Red]

I don't think we really know how Banner feels about any of this. I would say we could draw conclusions towards him backing Hulk, but I also think thats mostly speculation. We saw Hulk turn into Banner in some kind of mind-scape when he was talking to Strange, but we do not even know if that was Banner. I think jury is still out on this, just like it is on who planted the bomb.

[marty is ruling]

Dr. Strange visits the Hulk in his mindscape or whatever. and it appears that he's able to talk Bruce into stopping his war on the Illumanti. But it was all a ploy to get strange to drop his guard so the Hulk could attack


as far as i know. Bruce is backing the Hulk 100%. which makes the Hulk the most dangerous he's ever been because he doesn't have the mental turmoil of Bruce trying to stop his actions

I'm not convinced that that was the Banner persona, rather it was the latest Hulk persona taking the form of Banner in order for Strange to make himself vulnerable to the Hulk.

I'm not saying either of you are wrong.

This might lead to another discussion about the Hulk.

The savage Hulk, Mr. Fix it....and all the rest are ultimately Banner. Bruce Banner has multiple personality disorder. Each personality serves a purpose...handles something Banner feels he cannot. So he takes on the personality traits of those he believes who can..thus giving birth to the different Hulk personas.

What if.....Banner/Hulk is growing more accepting of himself. Able to handle (psychologically) being just one personality. In other words....there is no longer various Hulk personalities and Banner as he has always been....there is only one....

I'd like this to be the case. It'd be interesting.

[wolfblade]

I dont realy think Banner is in control more than people think, by the look of things it seems that the hulk is attacking family and friends I see banners sense of loyalty closness with thease characters a contributing factor as to why no one has been killed as of yet.

[Samuraixsithlord]

Well in Planet Hulk it showed that Cierra accepting and loving both the Hulk and Banner, so when she and her unborn child died along with the rest of Sakaar it wasn't just the Hulk looking for revenge it was Bruce


I had this whole notion in my head that the last issue of WWH would have been Bruce to fighting the depowered illumanti in the arena to show that Bruce had come to terms with the Hulk and had finally accpeted what he was.

But i'll pretty WWH is just marvel cramming some more sentry down our throats

[thronzeblast]

I'm not convinced that that was the Banner persona, rather it was the latest Hulk persona taking the form of Banner in order for Strange to make himself vulnerable to the Hulk.

I'm not saying either of you are wrong.

This might lead to another discussion about the Hulk.

The savage Hulk, Mr. Fix it....and all the rest are ultimately Banner. Bruce Banner has multiple personality disorder. Each personality serves a purpose...handles something Banner feels he cannot. So he takes on the personality traits of those he believes who can..thus giving birth to the different Hulk personas.

What if.....Banner/Hulk is growing more accepting of himself. Able to handle (psychologically) being just one personality. In other words....there is no longer various Hulk personalities and Banner as he has always been....there is only one....

I'd like this to be the case. It'd be interesting.



I am also torn wether i believe it is banner or something the hulk manufactured to trick strange I know that hulk has become smart but not that smart it seem like hulk in conujunction with banner helping him that pulled that off.I seem pretty clear that banner is not in control but judging form what happened in WWH #3 he (SEEM'S)willing to help the hulk fight the illumanuti.Which lead's me to believe that he thinkS they did something wrong some of this is just guess work on my part we will have to wait to see what really is going on.

[we3ster]

I think Banner is sort of in control and I'll tell you why, Reed Richards plan of using the Sentry's glow was a good strategy, when he used it, for a split second I think it worked as you heard the Hulk say 'g.. golden man' which is a Hulk thing to say, not Banner, he also looked mesmerised, which is why Korg came rushing to aid him.

As far as I am aware, the glow would not affect Banner and I believe it was the Banner side that saw through Reed's plan and stopped it from working.

[Wally_West]

I think Banner is sort of in control and I'll tell you why, Reed Richards plan of using the Sentry's glow was a good strategy, when he used it, for a split second I think it worked as you heard the Hulk say 'g.. golden man' which is a Hulk thing to say, not Banner, he also looked mesmerised, which is why Korg came rushing to aid him.

As far as I am aware, the glow would not affect Banner and I believe it was the Banner side that saw through Reed's plan and stopped it from working.

...really? U mean u didnt notice the part where he broke the hand and shorted the glow? I think even an idiot hulk would realize he just "broke" Sentry's hand, and the light was going all crazy...

[ivesaidway2much]

I think Banner is sort of in control and I'll tell you why, Reed Richards plan of using the Sentry's glow was a good strategy, when he used it, for a split second I think it worked as you heard the Hulk say 'g.. golden man' which is a Hulk thing to say, not Banner, he also looked mesmerised, which is why Korg came rushing to aid him.

As far as I am aware, the glow would not affect Banner and I believe it was the Banner side that saw through Reed's plan and stopped it from working.Yeah, that's what I think happened, too.

...really? U mean u didnt notice the part where he broke the hand and shorted the glow? I think even an idiot hulk would realize he just "broke" Sentry's hand, and the light was going all crazy...He "broke" Sentry's hand at the exact same time he was sarcastically agreeing to Thing's claim that the fight was over. The Hulk was already in control of his senses when he destroyed Reed's machine.

[Mr Fixit]

I think Banner is behind the acts that will end up placing Hulk in some sort of exile or at least make him far more hated than he has ever been.
Personaly I think Banner is pulling the strings so well Hulk thinks he is in control of every action he is performing when he isn't.
When the Hulk finds time to regret Banner will be laughing in his face at what he made him do.

[wolfblade]

I think Banner is behind the acts that will end up placing Hulk in some sort of exile or at least make him far more hated than he has ever been.
Personaly I think Banner is pulling the strings so well Hulk thinks he is in control of every action he is performing when he isn't.
When the Hulk finds time to regret Banner will be laughing in his face at what he made him do.

I am not too sure of that. I dont see banner trying to discredit or frame the hulk, there would be no point in that.

[bulbasteve]

Personally I place more emphasis on the "Planet Banner" story where he practically begged Hulk to let him fix the ship and for them to go to the originally intended Planet. If he really IS on Hulk's side now, well Banner is a pretty disturbed individual afterall...if he is on his side he will sure regret it in the future.

[Funkdmonkey]

Although Banner likely agrees with the Hulk so far, I'm guessing he'll start to doubt his own motives when the Hulk *may* start going to far.

[Mr Fixit]

I am not too sure of that. I dont see banner trying to discredit or frame the hulk, there would be no point in that.

Well framing and discrediting Hulk would be the baby steps towards Banner trying to control all of Hulks power. I know that doesn't rest well with many Hulk fans but I would really love to see Banner take on Hulk with tactics you wouldn't asscociate him with.

[wolfblade]

Well framing and discrediting Hulk would be the baby steps towards Banner trying to control all of Hulks power. I know that doesn't rest well with many Hulk fans but I would really love to see Banner take on Hulk with tactics you wouldn't asscociate him with.

yes but wouldnt those devios methods go against his very character. I am a huge hulk fan but even still my favorit character has always been Banner himself. I just dont see him doing that to...well...himself thats like self inflicted pain.

[Mr Fixit]

yes but wouldnt those devios methods go against his very character. I am a huge hulk fan but even still my favorit character has always been Banner himself. I just dont see him doing that to...well...himself thats like self inflicted pain.

I agree it would go against a balanced Banner character but in my eyes Banner seems to have lost everything and he could conect all to The Hulk. It would be twisted but then that's how Banners mind would be working to achive such drive to deploy deeds he wouldn't usualy consider.

Banner has always been a man of peace only ever being violent when he is on the edge and all is life someone has called him weak for this. I would just like to see a Banner using his vast intelect by taking on his curse and the world on thier own corrupted terms.

[wolfblade]

I agree it would go against a balanced Banner character but in my eyes Banner seems to have lost everything and he could conect all to The Hulk. It would be twisted but then that's how Banners mind would be working to achive such drive to deploy deeds he wouldn't usualy consider.

Banner has always been a man of peace only ever being violent when he is on the edge and all is life someone has called him weak for this. I would just like to see a Banner using his vast intelect by taking on his curse and the world on thier own corrupted terms.

you do have a good point. I am some what swayed to your logic now. Banner happens to be one of the 5 smartest people on the planet even if the hulk was to change to Banner, if as you say he agrees with the hulk I think things might actualy be worse for the heros of earth, with Banners intelect he could do things the hulk just can't and that, for me anyways, would be awsome to witness.:D

[jackolover]

Personally I place more emphasis on the "Planet Banner" story where he practically begged Hulk to let him fix the ship and for them to go to the originally intended Planet. If he really IS on Hulk's side now, well Banner is a pretty disturbed individual afterall...if he is on his side he will sure regret it in the future.

I don't know Bulba. When Ceira asked Hulk to show her all of him, and Banner appeared, it was Banner who made love to Ceira, then reverted back to the Hulk again later. I think Banner was glad the Hulk stayed on Sakaar, and found happiness in the arms of his queen.

How will Banner regret it in the future? In the pain of loss on Sakaar? Or, in the knowledge that the Hulk and himself are the same being, so anything the Hulk does, it's always ever been Banner doing it, but Banner always blaming the Hulk?

[jackolover]

Banner has always been a man of peace only ever being violent when he is on the edge and all is life someone has called him weak for this. I would just like to see a Banner using his vast intelect by taking on his curse and the world on thier own corrupted terms.

In all this, Banner has never been considered, in the WWH conflict. Hulk has been the adversary, and no one has put the blame on Banner for the tactic to disrupt NY and kidnap all the heroes. Yet, what if it comes out that the Hulk is now Banner? All everyone sees is 'the strongest one there is'. Banner has never had the opportunity to have his side of the story told. (He wanted to kill himself to get rid of the Hulk). What if Banner, now gets the confidence to be the Green King, or, just the Hulk. Will Banner change his name, and never use 'the Hulk' again? I mean we had Mr. Fixit, but he was a violent, brutal man. What about a humane man, of Banners personality, but who is 'the strongest one there is'?

[jade_nova]

I think Bruce will hate the Illuminati. They make the descion to shoot the Hulk into space and they don't even ask for his opinon since he is being shot into space too. It would not surprise me if his anger over the situation is helping to fuel the Hulk's strength.

[Mr Fixit]

In all this, Banner has never been considered, in the WWH conflict. Hulk has been the adversary, and no one has put the blame on Banner for the tactic to disrupt NY and kidnap all the heroes. Yet, what if it comes out that the Hulk is now Banner? All everyone sees is 'the strongest one there is'. Banner has never had the opportunity to have his side of the story told. (He wanted to kill himself to get rid of the Hulk). What if Banner, now gets the confidence to be the Green King, or, just the Hulk. Will Banner change his name, and never use 'the Hulk' again? I mean we had Mr. Fixit, but he was a violent, brutal man. What about a humane man, of Banners personality, but who is 'the strongest one there is'?

You could look it as Banner has always seen Hulk and the many splinter personas of him as an unwanted but true extention of himself.
Banner could just recliam Hulk personas under his name because after all without Banner Hulk wouldn't be around at all.
Banner on the other hand was around before the Hulk persona was made flesh.

In a sick twist Banner could even show something of his fathers attitude towards Hulk by demanding obedance and then taking full control.

[ivesaidway2much]

In all this, Banner has never been considered, in the WWH conflict. Hulk has been the adversary, and no one has put the blame on Banner for the tactic to disrupt NY and kidnap all the heroes. Yet, what if it comes out that the Hulk is now Banner? All everyone sees is 'the strongest one there is'. Banner has never had the opportunity to have his side of the story told. (He wanted to kill himself to get rid of the Hulk). What if Banner, now gets the confidence to be the Green King, or, just the Hulk. Will Banner change his name, and never use 'the Hulk' again? I mean we had Mr. Fixit, but he was a violent, brutal man. What about a humane man, of Banners personality, but who is 'the strongest one there is'?Isn't that pretty much Bruce Jones' run on the Hulk?

[IamtheRock3]

I dont know this Hulk keeps saying THOSE ARE BANNER FRIENDS, not Hulks

So who knows

We havent seen banner in such a long time. While banner may be pissed at the illumantie, he might not be cool with Hulk destroying people homes in new york and being so rough with his cousin

[Mr Fixit]

Isn't that pretty much Bruce Jones' run on the Hulk?

I thought Bruce Jones still portrayed Banner as a passivly active guy trying to control the Hulk hence meditation enabling him to accses some of Hulks strength.