Dragon Ball Z live-action movie

[Chase]

Do not want (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=5638&count=0).

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20th Century Fox is planning to bring the graphic novel/popular television show "Dragonball Z" to the big screen. Apparently the goal is to begin filming next year in Montreal, with the studio already budgeting over $100 million for the pic. "Dragonball Z" was originally created by Akira Toriyama as a Japanese graphic novel known as manga. His work was eventually turned into a Japanese anime series that went on to be picked up all over the world. The story revolves around an alien sent to destroy Earth, but has a change of heart and decides to join the humans in their fight against various aliens and bad guys.

Please, please, please no more Dragon Ball Z. Those years of watching Americans gulp it all down was more fanship of a terrible anime series than I'd like to see in a lifetime. And really, this live-action adaptation will not end pretty. Anime just doesn't translate well into live-action movies as anime is void of limitations present in movie making. And really, if Death Note couldn't translate well into a live-action movie, then Dragon Ball Z has no hope. Why you ask? Dragon Ball Z is a lot more science fiction based than Death Note, and those elements are seen much more often (whereas in Death Note it primary revolves around a realistic world). I just cannot see anyone pulling off a live-action Dragon Ball Z movie without making it look cheesy and awkward (poor Neon Genesis Evangelion, in that regard).

Just let it die already, plz.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

Do not want (http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=5638&count=0).

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Please, please, please no more Dragon Ball Z. Those years of watching Americans gulp it all down was more fanship of a terrible anime series than I'd like to see in a lifetime. And really, this live-action adaptation will not end pretty. Anime just doesn't translate well into live-action movies as anime is void of limitations present in movie making. And really, if Death Note couldn't translate well into a live-action movie, then Dragon Ball Z has no hope. Why you ask? Dragon Ball Z is a lot more science fiction based than Death Note, and those elements are seen much more often (whereas in Death Note it primary revolves around a realistic world). I just cannot see anyone pulling off a live-action Dragon Ball Z movie without making it look cheesy and awkward (poor Neon Genesis Evangelion, in that regard).

Just let it die already, plz.

I disagree. If the right company, right director (one who actually cared), the right script (written by Toriyama if needs be), and right cast are found, alot of animes could do well in Live Action (Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, Samurai Champloo, Rouroni Kenshin, ect....).


The thing to remember with a DBZ movie is to follow the manga more then the anime. Less sillyness, faster paced, ect.... If needs be, do the first Tournament Saga from way back in DragonBall to start thinsg off. That way, you need not bring in more complex things right out of the gate.



Also, casting casting casting! Let the main cast (Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Chichi at least) be portrayed by asians!


I don't want Keanu Reeves as Goku, thank you very much.

[Chase]

The day there is a good live-action adaptation of a manga/anime, is the day before Lucky the Lucky Charms leprauchaun gives each person on Earth a pot o' gold, and a pint of Guinness.

The only half-decent live-action anime movie has been GTO. Cutie Honey, Sailor Moon, Death Note, Lupin III, Crying Freeman, Transformers, and Fist of the North Star were pretty bad. I really hope the live-action Neon Genesis Evangelion movie does not suck, but I just don't think it will translate well.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

The day there is a good live-action adaptation of a manga/anime, is the day before Lucky the Lucky Charms leprauchaun gives each person on Earth a pot o' gold, and a pint of Guinness.

See, that's unfair.


If Comic Book movies can be so well done (Batman Begins, Spider-Man, ect...), I fail to see why some manga/anime would that that much harder to do.


Especially those like Samurai Champloo (easy enough to do), Cowboy Bebop (watch it, then watch Firefly/Serenity and tell me a Live Action Cowboy Bebop movie couldn't be made), Hellsing (it would be gory, but awesome) ect.....

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

You didn't like the recent live action Transformers movie?



I thought it was great.


But then, I know Michael Bay gets alot of hate, regardless, so.....

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

I'd also ask how many of those movies you listed were made by Big Name American companies like 20th Century Fox?



Because, lets face it, Japan seems to like those types of movies (Godzilla, I'm looking at you) despite them being low budget and the like.



I think, if a company like 2oth Century Fox honestly tries with something like DBZ, it will be able to pull it off.


Of course, I'm really really hoping the Live Action NGE and Battle Angel Alita (James Cameron is doing this one) don't flop.

[Chase]

When it's done near perfectly the first time, like Ghost in the Shell, or perfectly the first time, like Cowboy Bebop, I'd rather not give people the opportunity to perceive the entire series based on a possibly terrible adaptation.

You didn't like the recent live action Transformers movie?



I thought it was great.


But then, I know Michael Bay gets alot of hate, regardless, so.....

The dialogue, story, and acting were just really terrible in my eyes. Maybe I have high standards, but it just didn't meet the bar. And I liked The Island, so I don't exactly blindly dislike Michael Bay, if that's what you were getting at.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

When it's done near perfectly the first time, like Ghost in the Shell, or perfectly the first time, like Cowboy Bebop, I'd rather not give people the opportunity to perceive the entire series based on a possibly terrible adaptation.



The dialogue, story, and acting were just really terrible in my eyes. Maybe I have high standards, but it just didn't meet the bar. And I liked The Island, so I don't exactly blindly dislike Michael Bay, if that's what you were getting at.

I know what you mean.


After seeing Aeon Flux butchered, I'm terrified of seeing my two favorites, Neon Genesis Evangelion and Ghost in the Shell being turned into crap mockeries of themselves.


However, I'm willing to have faith in James Cameron and the like who are at least willing to take a chance on what are great stories, characters, and the like.

What honestly terrifies me the most about a live action Ghost in the Shell movie is them picking someone non-japanese to play the Major. That would suck beyond belief.


Same goes with them not using at least a few asians to fill out the DBZ cast.

[MaxofSteel]

I would've been more excited about this, had the production gone down at the height of DBZ's popularity here in the states. For the most part all the Dragonball hype has pretty much subsided (replaced by other things like Naruto and the like). I'm still fond of the series, I'm just not as amped about it as I used to be back in high school.

So production begins next year, and adding editing, CGI, and other factors into the mix... I'm guessing we can probably expect it to release in at least two to three years. Will it still sell well?

[SnowTrooper]

Dragonball Z is the only anime show I have ever liked. I've tried watching other anime shows but I can never get into them because they always come off as stupid to me. DBZ was always awesome, hell it hasnt been cool for a long time and I still watch it when I get a chance.

Do I think they can make it into a movie? No. The story is just so incredibly long.

How would they do it? Hell it would take a whole movie just to introduce all of the characters present in the Sayain Saga. Thats another thing, would it focus on the Sayain Saga or just rush into the Namek/Ginyu/Freiza Sagas?

Maybe if it was completely CGI/Animation it could work, but I highly doubt that live-action will look good.

Anyway this movie probably wont happen, there have been talks of a Dragonball Z movie since around 2001. I remember the leading canidate back then for Goku was Robin Shou and Tim Roth as Vegeta.

[The Xenos]

I call bullsh--.

One news article with no press release or news or anything from Fox itself. I think the news paper is taking an old rumor off the net and stupidly reporting it.

Also, why even link to Wikipedia when you already posted the source article?

And I swear to kami, the first person who mentions Jakie Chan, Jet Li, or Wesley Snipes gets a sock in the mouth.

[MaxofSteel]

And I swear to kami, the first person who mentions Jakie Chan, Jet Li, or Wesley Snipes gets a sock in the mouth.

LOL at the Jackie Chan rumors. I remember those. :p

I seems to recall some Tome Welling rumors too.

Tom Welling: "I'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FRIEZA!!!"

[Black Atom]

Some anime/manga would adapt to live action pretty well. But not this one. Plus, it seems they missed the height of DBZ popularity by a couple years.

[Preus]

Not really, there are hundreds if not thousands of DBZ forums with millions of DBZ fans who still want a movie. I'm one of them & I'm really glad we're getting a live action movie. Hopefully it'll be a really good movie.

[The Xenos]

Though I gotta admit, what's wrong with cartoons? Why does everything have to be live action? I don't get it.

[SnowTrooper]

Though I gotta admit, what's wrong with cartoons? Why does everything have to be live action? I don't get it.

I think it would be better animated. I doubt they could find actors that looked enough like the Z-Fighters.

[Kevin M.]

This will either be very good, or very very bad.

[Sanagi]

It is impossible to make a good live-action DBZ movie. DBZ itself is an example of how not to do things. That's kind of its charm.

[The Xenos]

Hey. Let's not forget this news all comes from ONE single source. There has been no confirmation by the studio. All we have is one article from the Montreal Gazette.

I think it would be better animated. I doubt they could find actors that looked enough like the Z-Fighters.

Dude. That guy playing Krillin sucks. Krillin isn't supposed to have a nose! :D

[BoosterBronze]

THis flick would be awesome, no matter the budget.

All you need is one dude in an orange jumpsuit front of a greenscreen for ninety minutes charging up his power. Then it says "TO BE CONTINUED"

[Shostie]

THis flick would be awesome, no matter the budget.

All you need is one dude in an orange jumpsuit front of a greenscreen for ninety minutes charging up his power. Then it says "TO BE CONTINUED"

So it would just be a 90 minute version of your typical DBZ episode?

Also, more ammunition as to why Hollywood remakes of Manga/Anime suck:

The Guyver starring Mark Hamill.

I understand that the Transformers movie was a pretty good popcorn flick, though.

[Gargus]

Didnt they try that already?

It seems to me I saw awhile back one night a live action movie I thought was supposed to be dragonball, only it wasnt anywhere near it. Some real low budget movie, kind of like the fantastic four movie that never got released (I got that dvd off ebay).

Or am I just imagining things? But Id swear I saw some cheesy movie one night that I thought was supposed to be DB.

Anyone have any idea what I might have seen?

[BoosterBronze]

The Guyver starring Mark Hamill.




I still havent seen the cartoon Guyver, but I thought the movie was a lot of fun.

[Mac Danny]

So a Dragonball Z film would be structured like this.

Act 1 Threat Arrives

Act 2 Wait for Goku

Act 3 Wait for Goku

Act 4 Goku arrives

Act 5 Goku powers up.

Act 6 Goku continues to power up.

Act 7 Pushed to the limit Goku reaches a new power level, defeats the villain and then has to go off and train with his new powers for at least 50% of the sequel.

[Mac Danny]

So it would just be a 90 minute version of your typical DBZ episode?

Also, more ammunition as to why Hollywood remakes of Manga/Anime suck:

The Guyver starring Mark Hamill.

I understand that the Transformers movie was a pretty good popcorn flick, though.

What you didn't like Fist of the North Star?

[The Shelf]

Didnt they try that already?

It seems to me I saw awhile back one night a live action movie I thought was supposed to be dragonball, only it wasnt anywhere near it. Some real low budget movie, kind of like the fantastic four movie that never got released (I got that dvd off ebay).

Or am I just imagining things? But Id swear I saw some cheesy movie one night that I thought was supposed to be DB.

Anyone have any idea what I might have seen?

I've never seen it, but I think there was a live action movie or miniseries in Japan. I remember reading an article about it in some game magazine back when DBZ was at its height, and it had a couple still images from it. Needless to say, it looked absolutely terrible.

Anyways, to all those who don't think a live action movie could work, just think about one thing: CG hair. Booyah.

[Black Atom]

As others have pointed out, I'm not sure what a live-action adaptation could do better than years of cartoons, comics and animated features haven't accomplished. Since it will be heavily CG anyway, it'll mostly end up being animated in one form or another anyhow.

[Jared]

I think it would be better animated. I doubt they could find actors that looked enough like the Z-Fighters.

They couldn't find an actor that looked enough like Wolverine, so they had to make do with Hugh Jackman.

Really though, DBZ is basically animated pro-wrestling with energy blasts and matches that take 30 episodes. The animated movies at least have battles that are over in a reasonable amount of time. If done as a relatively comedic action movie with a nine-figure budget, I see no reason it couldn't work. Spider-Man and Transformers once seemed unadaptable, after all.

Is there still any Dragonball stuff being produced? I think it's been a year or more since the last videogame.

[The Shelf]

Yeah, there's still stuff being made. I don't know about the show or toys or anything, but DBZ:BT2 came out last year and DBZ:BT3 comes out in November, I think. Apparently, it's going to have ~150 characters and online play on the Wii, I think.

[ChrisIII]

The manga/anime is also fairly unique in that the characters actually age-by the time of the "GT" series, if I recall, the main character Goku is actually a grandfather. I think that's probably part of the appeal of the show, it has the whole multi-generational 'saga' thing going for it. Not sure if that will translate well into film. The only other comparison is probably Star Wars, which takes place over a 40 year time period (Or more if you count the novels/comics).


I've always held that Dragonball Z owes a lot to the Superman mythos, with Goku being one of the last survivors of his planet, raised by a foster parent, being mostly pure of heart (although not afraid to use violence against bad guys). You even have a slight General Zod character in Vegeta (Although in his case, he turns into a good guy eventually).

[Chiasm]

Only one way would I possibly see this.

Jack Black must play Goku.

Verne Troyer (Mini Me) must play the bald headed dude who always looks constipated just as he does in the pic in the first post of this thread.

And the green looking lizard dude will recast as Angelina Jolie who will parade around topless all movie spouting bits of Latin dialogue about being a lesbian.


Ok seriously, nothing could make me see this movie. The cartoon annoys me so much that it makes me feel violent to the point of wanting to torture cute little puppies. I can only imagine what a live action version would do to me.

[JDogindy]

It'll work if the manga is followed. The anime didn't make much sense when you look at the two (especially how you can get over a half hour worth of action and talking in a 5 minute time frame).

[GrampaGen]

Jack Black must play Goku.


Man, now I wanna see Tenacious D in the Budokai.

"Bring the rage, Kage!"

[Preus]

Hugh Jackman should be Goku & Ray Park should be Vegeta.

[The Xenos]

And the dumb casting ideas continue. Well, at least no one said Jackie Chan or Wesley Snipes yet.. did they? Well I guess Jack Black can take that cake. Though if it stops any possibility of that idiotic idea of a Green Lantern film...

Really, it's all rather pointless without hearing the writers or directors or effects studios first.

Plus I just thought of something. I wonder how this would affect something like Invincible getting made. Nevermind we're now stuck with Superman and son for the Superman films. Did Supes really need a Gohan?

[StoneGold]

You know who would totally make this movie work? The cast of Seinfeld.

[Bouncing Boy]

The day there is a good live-action adaptation of a manga/anime, is the day before Lucky the Lucky Charms leprauchaun gives each person on Earth a pot o' gold, and a pint of Guinness.


I dunno, I'm looking forward to the Speed Racer movie.

[mgs]

I've always held that Dragonball Z owes a lot to the Superman mythos

Toryiama (sp) has admitted to this a long time ago. Using superman as his basis for the creation.
Edit: maybe not the basis, as much as the inspiration, for the cartoon.

I think the live action movie needs to be concerned with 3 things:
Hair
F/X
Storyline

;)

[SPAfreak]

You know who would totally make this movie work? The cast of Seinfeld.

Only if they fight the cast of Arrested Development.

[mattx110]

Toryiama (sp) has admitted to this a long time ago. Using superman as his basis for the creation.

I think the live action movie needs to be concerned with 3 things:
Hair
F/X
Storyline

;)

well, the cartoon had the hair subject pretty well covered. time for b and c.

[mgs]

well, the cartoon had the hair subject pretty well covered. time for b and c.

what I mean is, for a live action movie, how are they gonna handle the crazy anime/manga styleizations. they would look pretty stupid on real people, imo.

[mattx110]

what I mean is, for a live action movie, how are they gonna handle the crazy anime/manga styleizations. they would look pretty stupid on real people, imo.

yea, i'm with you there. yamcha and krillin had regular haircuts. trunks's hair is doable if a weird color. everyone else... kinda silly. at a certain point, the green guy is the most practical and requires the least suspension of disbelief. at least he looks like an alien so he can do crazy things.
CGI can definitely make the flying and fireballing look cool. though, i'm not sure how much of a budget a dragonball movie would be able to get.

and goku was probably influenced by a few things the writer enjoyed as a kid, or researched to make the books. i don't think there's enough of a connection to call him a ripoff. and the supporting cast creates a different set of relationships, which is just as important in defining who the character is. nobody should get sued here.

[The Xenos]

And Goku is based off of an old legend of the same name. He is somewhat similar to Superman but he was not based off of him.

Sorry if I was a bit harsh, but I'm just dumbfounded by people yelling out casting ideas. Really, with no creative talent or direction, how can you even speculate on cast? There are so many more important things first.

Plus, Goku was clearly based off Superman. Though certainly no more than other myths like the old Journey to the West (hence the name) and I think even Momotaro. (Though that last one might be a coincidence.) Also, Journey to the West was more in Dragon Ball, not DBZ. If i remember what my friend said, the Dragon Balls were like the Sutras of the original legend. Plus Dragon Ball was done as more of a comedy while DBZ became more action and drama.

Also, Toriyama himself has admit to being a Superman fan. Someone mentioned it earlier. I even remember seeing drawings from Dr Slump where he draws a direct Superman parody with cape and parody chest emblem. Though I would definitely NOT call Goku a Superman knock off. Also similar to DBZ is Kirkman's comic Invincible. It too has the whole Superman myth or a hero from another planet turned on its head and is quite original itself.

Plus I suggested that Superman Returns oddly seems reminiscent of DBZ. I think that having a son worked in DBZ but seems stupid in Superman or at least the way it was done in Superman returns.


Oh and for casting, they're going to have to find one hell of a dedicated actor to chop off his nose to play Krillin.

[The Shelf]

Krillin's nose would be pretty easy to CGI. The hair would be more difficult, but I think they could do it with CGI too. Even the punches and kicks would probably have to be CGI'd since they happen so quickly. The only things that could be live action in a DBZ film are the actors themselves and the sets. But even the sets would have to be greenscreened half the time since the characters fly and jump around so much.

[Preus]

Now that I think about it, it'd probably be best for Krillin to be CGI.

In my opinion the Namekians could be portrayed by real actors, it'd take a lot of money to make them all CGI.

[Sanagi]

Krillin's nose would be pretty easy to CGI. The hair would be more difficult, but I think they could do it with CGI too.
Nightmare fuel.

[Black Atom]

You know who would totally make this movie work? The cast of Seinfeld.

Goku: Guess who I ran into today?

Krillin: Who?

Goku: Vegeta.

Krillin: Vegeta? Isn't he the guy that's always charging up all the time?

Goku: Yes! And it's not just the charging. It's the groaning!

Krillin: Who needs it? The charging, the groaning! And the vibrating, too, don't forget that.

Goku: It's like he's constipated.

Bulma: Who're we talking about?

Krillin: Vegeta.

Bulma: Isn't he that guy that's always charging up all the time? It's like he's constipated.

Goku: That's what I said! What kind of name is "Vegeta" anyway? It's not like he has vegetable-related attacks. He's not even a vegetarian!

Bulma: You guys want to help me find the dragonballs? I have to wish back this guy I went to high school with.

Goku: Can't. I gotta fight some space aliens that're real good at Karate. Ask Piccolo, he'll go with you.

Piccolo: [bursting in door] Ask me what?


Wow, I suck.

[The Xenos]

For the love of f---. If you CGI Krillin or his nose or even the hair, why the f--- not finsih the job and make the full movie CGI.

Dammit. When are fans going to make a lick of sense. Either CGI everything or make all the characters live action unless they're really an animal or something. Though evne there you can do puppets. God forbid anyone try to keep that lost art alive. No, everything has to be f---ing CGI. Bah. Bullcrap.

[Kevin M.]

And the dumb casting ideas continue. Well, at least no one said Jackie Chan or Wesley Snipes yet.. did they? Well I guess Jack Black can take that cake. Though if it stops any possibility of that idiotic idea of a Green Lantern film...

Really, it's all rather pointless without hearing the writers or directors or effects studios first.

Plus I just thought of something. I wonder how this would affect something like Invincible getting made. Nevermind we're now stuck with Superman and son for the Superman films. Did Supes really need a Gohan?


You know were just having fun with the whole premise of the movie...what is wrong with that?

[Preus]

Ignore him, he's bitter.

Anyway, I could definitely see Paul Levesque/Triple H as Broly if Broly ever got his own movie.

[The Xenos]

I'd like to see a live action Justice League Based on Morrison's first arc. I'd like to see Kingdom Come and Dark Knight Returns made into movies. Maybe somehow film Kingdom Come to look like an Alex Ross painting. I'd like Ghostbusters 3 with a new generation. I'd like a Watchmen mini-series and not a movie. I'd like a neat Evangelion live action series because why the hell not remake the story again. I'd like a Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) or Nightwing tv series based on the early issues.

I'd like a lot of things on film, but I know they're never going to happen. Sure maybe the occasional fanfilm might turn out awesome or you might get 300, but that's the exception, not the rule.

I do wish a DBZ live action film well, but there's nothing reported to tell us how it will go either way.

Is it too much to ask for realistic ideas and predictions? I'm all for sepculation, but, really, CGI hair and noses? Jackie Chan and Wesley Snipes? I just don't get it. It's as bad as the fans saying Mark Hamill should be in the new Batman movie. It's just too out of touch with reality.

Meanwhile, I did make the joke about needing a dedicated actor to saw off their nose to play Krillin.

Then again, maybe the ideas are so mixed and outlandish, I just can't tell tje jokes from the aactual suggestions.

[Preus]

I can't tell if you're serious with that grammar. Anyway, I just tend to ignore you as you rarely, if ever, say something important.

Anyway, how do you all think the hair should be done? Personally, I'd make everyone's hair a bit shorter in their regular forms so that it'd look more realistic. As Super Saiyans the hair would probably look it's best if it were CGI.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

The person playing Krillin can keep the nose.


Making a Live Action DBZ would meen consessions have to be made (talking animals are out, Krillin having a nose is in, that sort of thing).


To play Krillin, however, someone on the shorter side like Ray Parks or Ernie Rayes, Jr. would work very well, I think.

[asloveislost]

super saiyan?
the movie won't get that far along will it?
its only the saiyans arriving to earth.

anyway the xenos is right, all this speculation is pretty stupid.
CGI hair and noses, ugh give me a break.

[Preus]

Why wouldn't there be a sequel? If the movie doesn't do good at the box office, we won't get a sequel but if it does do good we will get a sequel. Btw, speculation is not stupid & that's a contradiction as everyone speculates. Think before you type.

[asloveislost]

Why wouldn't there be a sequel? If the movie doesn't do good at the box office, we won't get a sequel but if it does do good we will get a sequel. Btw, speculation is not stupid & that's a contradiction as everyone speculates. Think before you type.

haha ok, but i think you should be thinking before you type.
i didn't say speculation in general is stupid, i said all this speculation about CGI this and that is stupid.
also I'm not talking about a sequel, why don't you wait before this potential embarrassment to a great anime/manga is made before you start talking about a sequel.

[Chase]

Eep!

http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12002

Of course, this is a movie adaptation, and bastard changes are inevitable, but, unlike Funimation's dub, this movie is not going to have the opportunity to be corrected if there is fan backlash. Not that I'm a huge fan of the series, but, as an anime fan, certain things must consistent in the adaptation. One thing being Piccolo being green. And if the "considered uncool and unpopular at school" part is true, then that's goes completely against Goku's personality. Goku is like his namesake: a monkey for brains character that doesn't care what other people think of him. Isn't there enough drama in the series without adjusting established traits? It's equivalent to turning Superman into a brooding loner: It would be like giving Superman the personality of Batman. And das nutt rite, yo.

[mattx110]

haha ok, but i think you should be thinking before you type.
i didn't say speculation in general is stupid, i said all this speculation about CGI this and that is stupid.
also I'm not talking about a sequel, why don't you wait before this potential embarrassment to a great anime/manga is made before you start talking about a sequel.

i think there's something to be said for having a sense of humor about these things.

computer generated spiky poofy 2 foot golden hair is pretty funny.

[The Xenos]

Yeah, too bad the show isn't a comedy. Spiky poofy 2 foot golden CGI hair that looks funny wouldn't work in an action film.

As for the director, I guess it's not bad. As for those casting and character bits, what's the source on that? I only vaugely know DBZ, but I know that didn't sound right. Are they trying to mix in the first DragonBall series? That's a huge mistake. They should just start with DBZ. They should trust people being able to jsut jump into the story.

[Chase]

Yeah, too bad the show isn't a comedy. Spiky poofy 2 foot golden CGI hair that looks funny wouldn't work in an action film.

As for the director, I guess it's not bad. As for those casting and character bits, what's the source on that? I only vaugely know DBZ, but I know that didn't sound right. Are they trying to mix in the first DragonBall series? That's a huge mistake. They should just start with DBZ. They should trust people being able to jsut jump into the story.

Yep, I totally concur with the last sentiment. This can't end up being worse than Street Fighter: The Movie, right? Right?! x_x

BTW, nice Killy avatar. ^_^

[The Xenos]

What are you talking about? Street Fighter was the greatest movie ever. Just see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N6Gv_4lPDA

[Jettison]

Heres my version of what I thought live action DBZ would look like.


http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s256/jettison81/l_ff360868d6e418c50c1b4e3de7316345.jpg

[nervmeister]

^^Not asian enough.^^

[StoneGold]

^^Not asian enough.^^

Yeah, he should look more like this.

http://www.japanprobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/mickey-rooney.jpg

[Jettison]

your mom's not asian enough.

Nah...I hear ya...I referenced some MMA dude.

[GRANT!]

I dunno, I'm looking forward to the Speed Racer movie.

That could be good.

[asloveislost]

Yeah, too bad the show isn't a comedy. Spiky poofy 2 foot golden CGI hair that looks funny wouldn't work in an action film.


i think this movie might be better if it was a comedy.
also now that i know that its probably a dragonball movie i'm not so interested.
never really got into dragonball.

[Black Atom]

Yeah, he should look more like this.

http://www.japanprobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/mickey-rooney.jpg

your mom's not asian enough.

This thread pwns.

[OverMaster]

^^Not asian enough.^^

Goku isn't even asian, he's an alien. ^^

Seriously, though, that drawing looks more like Kenshiro in Goku's clothes.

[BoosterBronze]

What are you talking about? Street Fighter was the greatest movie ever. Just see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N6Gv_4lPDA

Holy crap! Did SOMEONE ELSE just totally link to my youtube vid!??! Awesome! This is the best day ever!

[nervmeister]

Yeah, he should look more like this.

http://www.japanprobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/mickey-rooney.jpgAll he needs is a Goku wig and whalla! The genuine article!

[The Xenos]

Holy crap! Did SOMEONE ELSE just totally link to my youtube vid!??! Awesome! This is the best day ever!

Holy crap. It's you.

i think this movie might be better if it was a comedy.
also now that i know that its probably a dragonball movie i'm not so interested.
never really got into dragonball.

I find it funny you say you want DBZ to be a comedy yet say you didn't like Dragon Ball which was more of a comedy.

[Bulky Brent]

Live Action Dragonball? could be very interesting. Hope they don't mess it up with bad acting and bad special effects.

How this for Piccolo?

http://www.myfavoritegames.com/dragonball-z/Images/LiveActionMovie/Piccolo.gif


Pretty cool huh?

[Jettison]

'20th Century Fox has set Justin Chatwin (The Invisible, War of the Worlds) to play Goku and James Marsters ("Smallville," "Angel," "Buffy the Vampire Slayer") as the villain Piccolo in Dragon Ball Z.

In the big screen adaptation, Goku is a powerful warrior who protects the Earth from an endless stream of rogues bent on dominating the universe and controlling the mystical objects from which the film takes its name.

Actor/writer/director Stephen Chow (Kung Fu Hustle) is producing. Final Destination helmer James Wong will direct from a script he wrote. Ben Ramsey wrote an earlier draft.

The story is based on Akira Toriyama's popular manga that has spawned graphic novels, a long-running TV series and more than 25 video games. The Jump Comics division of Tokyo-based Shueisha published the "Dragon Ball" manga.

With shooting scheduled to begin later this month, Fox will bow the sci-fi/adventure worldwide Aug. 15. Chatwin has already begun training with 87Eleven, the stunt performance company behind the action sequences in The Matrix, The Bourne Supremacy,Mr. & Mrs. Smith and 300.'


GOKU-

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/b/b6/220px-Normal_mazur_28529.jpg

PICOLLO-

http://scifipedia.scifi.com/images/thumb/7/7c/Spike.jpg/300px-Spike.jpg

PICARD-

http://www.turboconnection.com/images/picard.jpg

[Darth Joker]

There's some things (and even some characters) that just don't translate well from an animated format to a live-action format. There's loads of things that looks cool in animated format but just too silly to take anything seriously in live-action format, and vice versa.

The problem is that DBZ is loaded with characters and things that simply don't translate well from animated format to live-action format.

Super-Saiyan hair is one such thing. Krillian's lack of a nose is another.

Then there's the whole power level issue here - I have serious doubts that Hollywood could pull off a cool large area chi-blast that doesn't look painfully crappy and/or unrealistic.

If a DBZ movie is made, it can only go one of two ways.

1) Very, very loyal to the anime/manga. In which case it'll be true to the source material but look silly as all heck. Nobody who isn't a hardcore (and I mean hardcore) DBZ fan is going to take Goku with his glowing lion's mane of a Bart Simpson hair-do seriously in live-action format. The same goes for Vegeta.

2) The movie will have the characters and settings looking so different from the source material that one wonders if it's even worth the effot. That pic of Goku with normal hair is one example of that. Is Goku still Goku if he has a normal hair cut, and looks like he does in that pic?

There are many animes that I think can translate reasonably well into live-action version. DBZ just isn't one of them.

[MaxofSteel]

'20th Century Fox has set Justin Chatwin (The Invisible, War of the Worlds) to play Goku and James Marsters ("Smallville," "Angel," "Buffy the Vampire Slayer") as the villain Piccolo in Dragon Ball Z.

In the big screen adaptation, Goku is a powerful warrior who protects the Earth from an endless stream of rogues bent on dominating the universe and controlling the mystical objects from which the film takes its name.

Actor/writer/director Stephen Chow (Kung Fu Hustle) is producing. Final Destination helmer James Wong will direct from a script he wrote. Ben Ramsey wrote an earlier draft.

The story is based on Akira Toriyama's popular manga that has spawned graphic novels, a long-running TV series and more than 25 video games. The Jump Comics division of Tokyo-based Shueisha published the "Dragon Ball" manga.

With shooting scheduled to begin later this month, Fox will bow the sci-fi/adventure worldwide Aug. 15. Chatwin has already begun training with 87Eleven, the stunt performance company behind the action sequences in The Matrix, The Bourne Supremacy,Mr. & Mrs. Smith and 300.'

... ;_; ________

[SnowTrooper]

James Marsters as Picollo just makes me want to see this movie 10x more. Justin Chatwin as Goku shocked me, I always thought they would have cast an asian.

Movies.com is making this movie look like its a Dragonball movie, not Dragonball Z, whats it gonna be?

[The Xenos]

Well... I guess it's a start.

As for an Asian as Goku... well, isn't that a stereotype? Now that I think of it, DBZ was never set in Japan was it? They never said it did they? Sure the world was very Japanese, but they never said it was Japan. Never mind that Goku is an alien.

What bodes well is that Steven Chow is working on it and he professes to be a fan. Also, the actor who plays Ando from Heroes saw the script and said he was pleased as a fan with it.

Yeah. It sounds like they're doing the end of Dragon Ball. I checked with my roommate who's a Dragon Ball and DBZ fan about the story. He had only showed me the start of DBZ. I guess they felt the Raditz / Vegita arc was a bit too sudden or something and want to save it for a sequel.

Plus, no matter how this comes out, you already have volumes of manga and anime right from that manga to watch.

[Silver Knight]

James Marsters as Picollo just makes me want to see this movie 10x more. Justin Chatwin as Goku shocked me, I always thought they would have cast an asian.

Movies.com is making this movie look like its a Dragonball movie, not Dragonball Z, whats it gonna be?

The move to make Piccallo the main baddie makes me think one of two things. Its set before the start of DBZ or 2, its after the series and Piccallo's bad side has taken over and his super namek state has skyrocketed.

Either way James Marsters will kick ass.

Im disappointed at the cast for Goku. I remember voting on people who should be in a DBZ movie 7-8 years ago on the DBZ offical site. People like Jet Li, Jackie Chan, Sammo hung, Real action stars. Not some nobody kid.

[SnowTrooper]

Im disappointed at the cast for Goku. I remember voting on people who should be in a DBZ movie 7-8 years ago on the DBZ offical site. People like Jet Li, Jackie Chan, Sammo hung, Real action stars. Not some nobody kid.

Yeah I remember a few years back when there was talk of Tim Roth being cast as Vegeta, which just confused the hell out of me.

I remember that there was talk of Robin Shou as Goku too.

[Jamal]

'20th Century Fox has set Justin Chatwin (The Invisible, War of the Worlds) to play Goku and James Marsters ("Smallville," "Angel," "Buffy the Vampire Slayer") as the villain Piccolo in Dragon Ball Z.

In the big screen adaptation, Goku is a powerful warrior who protects the Earth from an endless stream of rogues bent on dominating the universe and controlling the mystical objects from which the film takes its name.

Actor/writer/director Stephen Chow (Kung Fu Hustle) is producing. Final Destination helmer James Wong will direct from a script he wrote. Ben Ramsey wrote an earlier draft.

The story is based on Akira Toriyama's popular manga that has spawned graphic novels, a long-running TV series and more than 25 video games. The Jump Comics division of Tokyo-based Shueisha published the "Dragon Ball" manga.

With shooting scheduled to begin later this month, Fox will bow the sci-fi/adventure worldwide Aug. 15. Chatwin has already begun training with 87Eleven, the stunt performance company behind the action sequences in The Matrix, The Bourne Supremacy,Mr. & Mrs. Smith and 300.'


GOKU-

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/b/b6/220px-Normal_mazur_28529.jpg

PICOLLO-

http://scifipedia.scifi.com/images/thumb/7/7c/Spike.jpg/300px-Spike.jpg

PICARD-

http://www.turboconnection.com/images/picard.jpg

Bwahahahahah!!! That Picard Image sums it up perfectly.

All these morons had to do was get Kane Kosugi ( Son of Revenge of the Ninja star Sho Kosugi ) to play Goku, he would have been perfect. He a serious martial artist/actor who speaks english and just had a nice little role in Jet Li's "Rogue."

Hollywood:rolleyes:

[Jettison]

http://kungfu-asia.com/myPictures/TONY_JAA5.bmp.jpg

could be a good Goku....

[Jettison]

pardon the overt gayness of this post, but Chris Evans is shredded....he could pull off Goku better than that small kid...

http://www.webwombat.com.au/entertainment/movies/images/fantastic4-chris-evans-1.jpg

[Jettison]

http://www.nnanime.com/events/0104fanimepics/f28_dbz.jpg

this is probably my top pick though/..

[Jettison]

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7836/dbzmoviefriezateaserlivgb1.jpg

thats pretty cool lookin' !

[Jamal]

Kane Kosugi

http://www.hkmania.com/Dossiers/Images/kanekosugi_4.jpg

http://www.kanekosugi.com/profile_e/images/photo03_e.jpg

[The Xenos]

[IMG]
thats pretty cool lookin' !

That's pretty good looking fanart, you mean. Don't drag crap like that, no matter now nice it looks, into the discussion. They're not even getting into Freeza anytime soon.

Im disappointed at the cast for Goku. I remember voting on people who should be in a DBZ movie 7-8 years ago on the DBZ offical site. People like Jet Li, Jackie Chan, Sammo hung, Real action stars. Not some nobody kid.

Sammo Hung or Jackie Chan? Are you kidding. Hell, even Jet Li is too old now. You just had a bunch of white kids who like DBZ naming the few Asian martial arts stars they knew.

All these morons had to do was get Kane Kosugi ( Son of Revenge of the Ninja star Sho Kosugi ) to play Goku, he would have been perfect. He a serious martial artist/actor who speaks english and just had a nice little role in Jet Li's "Rogue."

Hollywood:rolleyes:

I guess that guy is a bit better, not the cliche crap that Jackie Chan should be Goku.

Still, with someone like Steven Chow, who seems to be a fan, behind production, I'll wait and see. Considering the risk and expectations around this franchise, I don't think they'd screw it up. Hmm. Though we did have Transformers this past summer. Ugh. Then again, we don't have an idiot like Bay at the wheel and I also think Speilberg is slipping or something lately. Meanwhile, Chow and Wong don't strike me as they'd screw it up.

[Young Avenger]

Kane Kosugi

http://www.hkmania.com/Dossiers/Images/kanekosugi_4.jpg

http://www.kanekosugi.com/profile_e/images/photo03_e.jpg

He's the guy who played Hayabusa in the DoA movie. I was very impress with him in that movie.

[Black Atom]

Note that description doesn't really say anything about martial arts or fighting so much.

In the big screen adaptation, Goku is a powerful warrior who protects the Earth from an endless stream of rogues bent on dominating the universe and controlling the mystical objects from which the film takes its name.

This could just as easily be a description for Superman or a number of other superhero movies, which is probably the way they'll go (the fact that they went with generic white dudes instead of "uber martial artists" seems to underscore that). The training/fighting/tournament aspect of DB will probably be downplayed completely.

[Toku King]

I thought Piccolo was a good guy.......

[StoneGold]

This could just as easily be a description for Superman or a number of other superhero movies, which is probably the way they'll go (the fact that they went with generic white dudes instead of "uber martial artists" seems to underscore that). The training/fighting/tournament aspect of DB will probably be downplayed completely.

How much martial arts do you need to know to have CGI blurs for fists? Because granted, I haven't watched much DBZ, but that and lasers seem to be the extent of martial arts.

[The Xenos]

Note that description doesn't really say anything about martial arts or fighting so much.

This could just as easily be a description for Superman or a number of other superhero movies, which is probably the way they'll go (the fact that they went with generic white dudes instead of "uber martial artists" seems to underscore that). The training/fighting/tournament aspect of DB will probably be downplayed completely.

Well, you know, if you totally ignore the part that Steven Chow is involved and that they got a stunt team working with the guy playing Goku and others.

"Chatwin is training under the stunt firm 87Eleven (The Matrix, The Bourne Supremacy, 300)." -source (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-11-14/dragonball-movie-to-film-this-year-for-2008-release)

Yeah. Just ignore that part of the report and your complaint it totally on the mark.

I also agree that the fighting you see in the anime isn't all humanly possibly, so effects are certainly needed.

[Black Atom]

Well, you know, if you totally ignore the part that Steven Chow is involved and that they got a stunt team working with the guy playing Goku and others.

"Chatwin is training under the stunt firm 87Eleven (The Matrix, The Bourne Supremacy, 300)." -source (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-11-14/dragonball-movie-to-film-this-year-for-2008-release)

Yeah. Just ignore that part of the report and your complaint it totally on the mark.

I also agree that the fighting you see in the anime isn't all humanly possibly, so effects are certainly needed.

Ehhh. What I was getting at was that they didn't hire someone like Jet Li or Jackie Chan because they're not focusing on the martial arts so much. I'm sure there will be fight scenes, but it'll be more of a straight sci-fi/superhero movie. It wasn't really a complaint, I was just pointing that out.

[Acecool]

I think James would be pretty good as Piccolo. The other kid guy they want to play goku I wasn't sure of. However if memory serve me correctly, Goku wasn't all buffed out in the tournament like he was later in the series. He does have goku's skinny nose and square jaw.

I wonder how they are going to do the hair and such without it looking silly. Are they going to tone it down like Wolverines, or are they just going to forget about it completely? I don't think they could get rid of the hair thing completely since that is sort of a sticking point for later movies when he goes super sayen.

I am not so much perturbed either about goku being white. I was ok with king pin being black in the dare devil movie. I suppose when you line up all the things that make up the character, what race he is doesn't matter except for the fact that he is a Sayen. Though i do understand the notion that the anime/manga was made in Japan and it feels like an american company is co-opting the character, Goku never looked asian in the comics or the anime.

[StoneGold]

I wonder how they are going to do the hair and such without it looking silly. Are they going to tone it down like Wolverines,

Tone it down? Sure, maybe compared to like when Sam Kieth would draw it, but otherwise, Jackman's hair was every bit as pointy as the comics.

[MaxofSteel]

How much martial arts do you need to know to have CGI blurs for fists? Because granted, I haven't watched much DBZ, but that and lasers seem to be the extent of martial arts.

I'd say the earlier Dragonball series was more based on actual martial arts combat compared to DBZ.

Energy attacks were basically "last resort" from my experience. In later DBZ episodes, they were just tossed around like nothing.

[Chase]

Oh sweet Whedon, I hope live-action Evangelion avoids such piles on its route to actuality.

At very least, it is good news that Mr. Marsters is still active. I expect nothing from this movie as, other than Old Boy, most live-action manga adaptations are terrible. Hell, even Death Note (one of the best examples of manga within the last five years) wasn't spared from vomit-inducing live-action movies. No one is immune. No one.

http://i9.tinypic.com/8ghoy0k.gif

[Black Atom]

I'd say the earlier Dragonball series was more based on actual martial arts combat compared to DBZ.

Energy attacks were basically "last resort" from my experience. In later DBZ episodes, they were just tossed around like nothing.

I guess I make the mistake of always thinking of the original Dragonball instead of DBZ. For one, I'd at least be half-interested of watching a movie based on Dragonball.

[Magneto_X]

Marsters' should be Vegeta, IMO.

His role as Spike is close enough that it be easy for him to accomplish.

[The Xenos]

Well, I announced this at my anime club. A number of the younger guys and freshman panned it outright. A couple pretty much turned their nose up at anything from Hollywood. I think one even said DBZ in general wasn't good. (Wow.) Meanwhile, some of them gave it some slack when I tried to defend it.

I wonder how they are going to do the hair and such without it looking silly. Are they going to tone it down like Wolverines, or are they just going to forget about it completely? I don't think they could get rid of the hair thing completely since that is sort of a sticking point for later movies when he goes super sayen.

I am not so much perturbed either about goku being white. I was ok with king pin being black in the dare devil movie. I suppose when you line up all the things that make up the character, what race he is doesn't matter except for the fact that he is a Sayen. Though i do understand the notion that the anime/manga was made in Japan and it feels like an american company is co-opting the character, Goku never looked asian in the comics or the anime.

My friend who defended the movie said that was one of his big questions. It's such a trademark of the series, yet so confounding how to do it live action.

As for Goku being white.. eh. I agree. Where did it say he was Japanese? It's Saiyen, an alien. At the same time, the society he landed in was very Japanese. Yet, weren't they on a tropical island? Or was Master Roshi just on a random island? Didn't they go to a lot of deserts? That's not Japanese. Or at least the setting didn't look like Japan. I think it's highly debatable. Meanwhile, something like Evangelion with Tokyo 3 or last names like Ikari are surely Japanese.

Plus, it sounds like they'll certainly have Asian actors in other roles.

Oh sweet Whedon, I hope live-action Evangelion avoids such piles on its route to actuality.

At very least, it is good news that Mr. Marsters is still active. I expect nothing from this movie as, other than Old Boy, most live-action manga adaptations are terrible. Hell, even Death Note (one of the best examples of manga within the last five years) wasn't spared from vomit-inducing live-action movies. No one is immune. No one.

What piles? What's so wrong so far? Sure, nothing is quite sure and it's not certain it's going to be good, but I don't see any bad signs yet.

Meanwhile, yeah, Death Note was a stinker and that was a Japanese film. It was almost bad like an American comic adaptation with all those changes.

Marsters' should be Vegeta, IMO.

His role as Spike is close enough that it be easy for him to accomplish.

He's more than just Spike. Plus I could really see Marsters as Piccalo. Now I admit I don't know what he was like at the end of Dragon Ball. It sounds like it's more like the little I heard about that. My friend who is a DBZ fan said he was old and then there was some weird splitting or egg laying and then the one in DBZ emerged.

[BoosterBronze]

As a man who's seen more Dragonball that I'd care to remember, I can't imagine for a second Jet Li or Jackie Chan as Goku, since Goku is a young guy, and for what it's worth, just as likely to be caucasian as Asian. Or he might be Jewish, a light skinned Indian, or perhaps a pale Arab.

And from what I recall from the anime, amazing martial arts skills aren't needed to spend 19 minutes charging up for an attack.

I don't like Chatwin for the role though, just because "The Invisibles" was crap and I wish he, and everyone involved in that film would never work again.

[asloveislost]

I find it funny you say you want DBZ to be a comedy yet say you didn't like Dragon Ball which was more of a comedy.

First, I was being sarcastic because I can't see this movie coming to life properly in a serious way.
Second, I never said I didn't like Dragonball I said I never got into it.
And thirdly I know that Dragonball was mostly a comedy.


Also is Picollo still going to be green? I can't see Spike being green. :confused:

[Black Atom]

My friend who defended the movie said that was one of his big questions. It's such a trademark of the series, yet so confounding how to do it live action.

As for Goku being white.. eh. I agree. Where did it say he was Japanese? It's Saiyen, an alien. At the same time, the society he landed in was very Japanese. Yet, weren't they on a tropical island? Or was Master Roshi just on a random island? Didn't they go to a lot of deserts? That's not Japanese. Or at least the setting didn't look like Japan. I think it's highly debatable. Meanwhile, something like Evangelion with Tokyo 3 or last names like Ikari are surely Japanese.


Well, if anything it'd be China, since that's where the majority of the influences for Dragonball comes from.

[Kage Kisaragi]

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Scoop-Dragonball-Z-Character-Details-6987.html

This is getting out of hand. I'm the third poster on that sites comment section, if they validated my comment that is.

Still im not expecting anyone else to be outraged by this but I am. They are using 2 caucasian male leads for the hero and villain role, yet want a female asian for the female lead, and a latino for a side kick role. What the hell? This is suppose to be DBZ and while the anmation style didn't heavily indicate any ethinic group the culture was unmistakably japanese.

This looks more like Hollywoods totally disregard and respect for other cultures and for the most part vanity. I mean this isn't like there other attempts at placating stereotypes with offerings like Rumble in the Bronx where the lead was indeed asian yet the over all move was still along the lines of blackcinema, same with most of all Jackie Chan's films and other Asians actors. I don't wanna look to deep into the race issue though is gonna be a painfully annoying one once production gets rolling and people see who was casted. Especially from the fans.

They are also ultimately killing the story, the part of which they seems to be starting on is nothing like the origina manga/anime and for the most part makes it soundsas hokey as alot of those generic martial arts films from the 70's and earily 80's. This is sounding like a total sham and will only be DBZ in name and not spirit.

[Verdugo]

They are using 2 caucasian male leads for the hero and villain role, yet want a female asian for the female lead, and a latino for a side kick role.


Sounds like my kind of movie.

[Pól Rua]

Nice use of block caps in the thread title.

OMGZ!!! HOW CAN THEY IMPUGN THE ESSENTIALLY INTEGRITY OF MY HALF-ARSED JOURNEY TO THE WEST KNOCK-OFF!!!???
GAH!

[The Mirrorball Man]

Hey, what happened to the old "I think I won't see it then" concept?

[Sanagi]

Sure, this is obviously a stupid idea and the movie was doomed long before casting began... But what difference will it make? It'll come out, it'll suck, DBZ fans will still have their old shows to watch, and people in general will still think DBZ fans are insane.

[Umbrax]

and people in general will still think DBZ fans are insane.

Truth!
But only in America.

[The Mirrorball Man]

Truth!
But only in America.

No actually I think that particular feeling is quite widespread.

[Umbrax]

No actually I think that particular feeling is quite widespread.

Is DBZ released in Switzerland by FUNimation?

[The Mirrorball Man]

Is DBZ released in Switzerland by FUNimation?

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[Pól Rua]

DBZ is a half-arsed comic and far from being the best work by Akira Toriyama.
Dakota Fanning and Eugene Levy in 'DR SLUMP: THE MOVIE'.
Now THAT's something I wanna see!

[The Xenos]

This looks more like Hollywoods totally disregard and respect for other cultures and for the most part vanity. I mean this isn't like there other attempts at placating stereotypes with offerings like Rumble in the Bronx where the lead was indeed asian yet the over all move was still along the lines of blackcinema, same with most of all Jackie Chan's films and other Asians actors. I don't wanna look to deep into the race issue though is gonna be a painfully annoying one once production gets rolling and people see who was casted. Especially from the fans.

Yes, Because Japan is the sterling example of considering race and having respect for other cultures.

What do you think Mr Popo?

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1158/mrpoposj2.jpg

He's speechless.

Also, I'm pretty damn sick of Jackie Chan this and Jackie Chan that. If you know anything about Asian politics and nationalities, you know that Japanese and Chinese cultures are very separate. China banned the US made 'Memoirs of a Geisha' because a Chinese actress played a Japanese Geisha. Never mind Japan looking down on all foreigners. Not that I agree with any of that. Certainly not all Japanese are like this and certainly I don't agree with it. Though I would argue that xenophobia is a problem prevalent in Japan. Let's not help feed it.

As for a multi-ethnic cast, bring it on. Akira Toriyama never said everyone was Japanese. Hell, just look at Mr Popo. Actually.. let's not look at him. (Lawdy lawdy lawdy! Yousa mean people gonna die?) Seriously. Take two damn seconds to think about this. Dragon Ball was loosely based on Journey to the West with some Superman thrown in. Toriyama is a huge Superman fan. Never mind Goku isn't even human, let alone Japanese.

They are also ultimately killing the story, the part of which they seems to be starting on is nothing like the origina manga/anime and for the most part makes it soundsas hokey as alot of those generic martial arts films from the 70's and earily 80's. This is sounding like a total sham and will only be DBZ in name and not spirit.

You do realize they're actually starting at the end of Dragon Ball, right? Also, in Japan, DBZ was just a continuation of Dragon Ball and there wasn't as big a distinction as there is in America.

I myself only saw the start of DBZ, the whole Vegita saga. Though friends who are huge DBZ fans told me what I described to them sounded like the end of Dragon Ball.

Also, let's not forget Steven Chow is producing. He is a huge DBZ fan, like many people in Japan, Koream China and Hong Kong (where he's from) and many Asians in America. So guess what, it's not all Hollywood. It has one of Hong Kong's biggest stars running the show. Also, as much as I liked Jackie Chan, he's old news. I love the guy's work, but he's far from the only Asian or Chinese or HK action star out there. He's just the one mainstream America has gotten to know the name of.

[jesse_custer]

Why should the show specifically say "Goku is Japanese!" when the character himself looks like a typical model for a Japanese character in anime? I also think the setting of the show has no bearing on whether a character is Japanese. Also, "Goku" is not a white man's name. Sorry.

Also, I found this from the wikipage on Goku:

He has also been depicted in Wizard magazine where he was matched up in a hypothetical battle against Superman; Goku defeated Superman by transforming into a Super Saiyan and overpowering him with the Kamehameha.

Two things are sad in regard to this. First, someone actually decided this was a good idea to think about. Second, Goku defeats Superman with ... something that would never defeat Superman.

[Pól Rua]

So a character in a comic created by a Japanese author influenced by a Chinese Mythological Monkey God and an American Superhero is DEFINITELY Japanese.

Oh yeah, I can see that.

Son Goku/Son Wukong is a MONKEY. A shape-changing monkey god.
Yeah.
Sure.

Definitely Japanese.

[The Xenos]

Another friend pointed something out. Who the hell is this Agundes character listed alongside ChiChi? Is this some translation error? A minor minor character in Dragon Ball?

Now THAT does have worried.

Though one thing to fall back on. Considering the manga was animated panel for panel in the anime, decades before Sin City, should we really care all that much about a live action movie?

[Spidey-kid1]

You didn't like the recent live action Transformers movie?



I thought it was great.


But then, I know Michael Bay gets alot of hate, regardless, so.....

Transformers was actually one of the best movies I've ever seen. If this DBZ live action movie ends up being even half the Transformers movie, it will be good. Though I have my doughts on this one.

Its not that anything anime turned live avtion would suck, but its just things like DBZ, One Piece, or Naruto. I cant quite put my finger on it, but a lot of the elements in the shows, would be hard to actually duplicate in a movie without a wtf level corn factor involved. The only way I can see this working is if they change a whole lot'a things (mostly personality wise) like the Transformers movie.

[jesse_custer]

So a character in a comic created by a Japanese author influenced by a Chinese Mythological Monkey God and an American Superhero is DEFINITELY Japanese.

Oh yeah, I can see that.

Son Goku/Son Wukong is a MONKEY. A shape-changing monkey god.
Yeah.
Sure.

Definitely Japanese.

Well, I haven't masturbated to this as often as you. However, my point was he's not white, and that his character design looks like a number of other Japanese characters in anime. That was all clearly stated in my post.

[Black Atom]

So a character in a comic created by a Japanese author influenced by a Chinese Mythological Monkey God and an American Superhero is DEFINITELY Japanese.

Oh yeah, I can see that.

Son Goku/Son Wukong is a MONKEY. A shape-changing monkey god.
Yeah.
Sure.

Definitely Japanese.

What you said. Most of the mythology that influenced Dragonball is Chinese. If you go by how they dress, most of the characters would look Chinese, if anything.

[OverMaster]

Well, I haven't masturbated to this as often as you. However, my point was he's not white, and that his character design looks like a number of other Japanese characters in anime. That was all clearly stated in my post.

Now you're just being rude for the sheer heck of it.

For Christ's sake, Goku is supposed to be ALIEN, from ANOTHER PLANET, not from Japan or continental Asia. You might have a point talking about ChiChi, or Yamcha, but Goku doesn't have to look Asian.

Does he look like a lot of Japanese characters from other anime? Sure. But the America-born Tina Foster from Ai Yori Aoshi is a lookalike of the Japan-born Excel from Excel Saga. Same thing here. Looks don't define the character's origin in most anime, where you have Japanese who are naturally blue, blond or pink-haired.

[jesse_custer]

So what you're saying is that he doesn't need to look like he does in the series for the movie because he's an alien?

[The Xenos]

Naw. I'd venture to say that even if he does look liken he did in the series, that doesn't make him Japanese. Most anime characters don't look Japanese at all. You have characters with blonde hair blue eyes or green hair green eyes or blue hair and red eyes and pale white skin. (I've seen figures and the drapes do match the curtains. Thank you, perverts at Gainax who license those figures.)

Though Evangelion did make sure the characters had Japanese names and origins. Still, stuff like One Piece of Dragon Ball? Not so much. They traveled all around the world and even to other planets.

That people insist that all the characters need to be Japanese or, even stupider, just Asian astounds me. So everyone from here to Namek in DBZ is Asian? Brilliant.

Actually, that reminds me. A friend of mine was in Japan for a year and told me about this freaky trend he saw. Japanese teens, I think mostly girls, having surgery to have larger eyes. Not sure if it was due to anime or looking western or both. He even said some of them only could afford one at a time, so they wore eye patches. That is messed up.

Really, how does Goku look Asian? Is there some look that all Asians have? Let's not even go there. Also, let's not go into the stupid controversy about mixed marriages in Japan or even the US. Again, Goku is an alien. Kinda puts the whole race issues as a moot point.

Anyway, what do you think Mr Popo?

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1158/mrpoposj2.jpg

I guess that means no comment.

[Jettison]

http://www.thedaoofdragonball.com/Pictures/VideoPage/krillin-2.jpg

dude, Krillin has gotta be asian...

[The Xenos]

Yeah, but where are you going to find an actor without a nose? :rolleyes:

[StoneGold]

Yeah, but where are you going to find an actor without a nose? :rolleyes:

Michael Jackson? Morgan Fairchild?

[SnowTrooper]

Im really curious about who they'll cast as Krillin.

(*waiting for the "Jason Alexander would be perfect" jokes)

[Jettison]

any young decent, asian actor with martial arts skills would work....preferably short and round, but just shave his head and your gold.

Wonder if Bulma will be in it? I just hope they make the landscapes fantastical with funky trees/canyons and pod-style houses and such in the Toriyama fashion...

Wonder if it will be all green screen like the Speed Racer movie?

I'm excited for this....its not what I would do, but I am really curious to see what they come up with.

[StoneGold]

any young decent, asian actor with martial arts skills would work.

Yes, because all Asians look alike.

[Jettison]

No...all asians don't look alike.

You are assuming that since I didn't name drop that I think 'any 'ol asian can be cast'....I said as long as he is a decent actor, and has martial arts skills....

If you shave his head, boom...you got Krillin...what do you expect, someone without white in there eyes and no nose?

Got any better ideas?

[StoneGold]

Got any better ideas?

Yes, like reporting you for not being able to converse without insulting people. However, the point is any Asian actor who is young and knows martial arts is still a pretty damn wide spread. Realizing this picture is kind of old, but here are three young Asians who know martial arts of varying shapes and sizes. Would all of them be good for the character?

http://www.sammohungkambo.com/3bro.jpg

[Jettison]

I said 'decent, asian actor'....he should have DECENT ACTING abilities...in my book thats enough for a character like Krillin....I'm not talking about Marlon Brando or Morgan Freeman skills.....

and no, those guys you posted are way too old to play Krillin.

Sorry if I offended you, but I don't like being made to seem as though I'm lumping all asian actors together just because of there ethnicity.

So, once again -

1. Asian
2. Decent acting skills (preferably with good comedic timing)
3. Martial Arts skills

Did I leave anything out?

[Jettison]

Maybe the guy who played Dirty Balls from Ong Bak

(on right)

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/o/images/ong-bak-7.jpg

but even he seems too old for the part.....I dunno, I guess it depends at what point in the story they are deciding to base the movie....shouldn't he be around the same age as Goku?

[StoneGold]

I said 'decent, asian actor'....he should have DECENT ACTING abilities...in my book thats enough for a character like Krillin....I'm not talking about Marlon Brando or Morgan Freeman skills.....

and no, those guys you posted are way too old to play Krillin.


They weren't then. I was asking if any of them then could have played the role. All arguable decent Asian actors. But if you want more modern...

Here is Lam Chi Chung. He's a great comic Chinese actor, and he knows martial arts, and he's relatively young.

http://movieimage.hanmail.net/images/peopledb/people_15800/peopledb_15897_L.gif


And here is Chinese action star Jacky Wu. Again, decent actor, relatively young, incredibly skilled at martial arts. Would both work?http://files.myopera.com/kieuanh/blog/1Jason2.jpg

[Jettison]

the latter would work....the other guy is huge dude from Shaolin Soccer, right? hes too big....

shave the other kids head, and he would do fine as Krillin looks wise for me.

[Jettison]

I read this chick is playing Bulma at a different forum...

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/837/837435/dragon-balls-bulma-cast-20071123055933704.jpg

[Jettison]

http://movies.ign.com/articles/837/837435p1.html

Dragon Ball's Bulma Cast?
Mexican star rumoured to have nabbed role.
by Orlando Parfitt, IGN UK


UK, November 23, 2007 - The role of Bulma in the new Dragon Ball live-action movie is currently being cast, with Mexican actress Camila Sodi rumoured to have nabbed the part.

The story originated from the Mexican press and was subsequently reported by games site Kotaku, although it hasn't yet been confrimed by Twentieth Century Fox.

Camila Sodi is a big star in her native Mexico - she had her own music show, has modelled for men's magazines and starred in Gabriel Garcia Bernal's directorial debut Deficit.

- Jeff Vespa/WireImage.com
Can you see Camila Sodi as Bulma?

Bulma - who appears in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z - is the nagging and temperamental daughter of Dr Briefs and is a gifted inventor.

Dragon Ball is set to hit screens on august 15th 2008.

[OverMaster]

Here is Lam Chi Chung. He's a great comic Chinese actor, and he knows martial arts, and he's relatively young.

http://movieimage.hanmail.net/images/peopledb/people_15800/peopledb_15897_L.gif


I reckon this guy would make a very good Yajirobe.

[The Xenos]

I just hope they make the landscapes fantastical with funky trees/canyons and pod-style houses and such in the Toriyama fashion...

Very interesting point. The landscapes had an interesting design to them. From islands to desert, they were on Earth, but still unique. Same with the architecture. I hope they keep some of those fantastic designs in.

Bulma - who appears in Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z - is the nagging and temperamental daughter of Dr Briefs and is a gifted inventor.

It's times like this I have to laugh at people like us in heated debate over a series that names characters after types of pants, vegetables and various odd things.

[Jettison]

Apparently this guy has done/is doing conceptual work for the film...

http://a.tuis.free.fr/index1.html

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1533722
'I have just achieved some work on Dragon Ball the movie.'

oh, and they are filming in Mexico.

[Jettison]

From CBR's front page -

According to the Hollywood Reporter, actress Jamie Chung has joined the cast as "Chi Chi," the love interest of a youthful Goku (played by Justin Chatwin).

[The Xenos]

Uuuh.. that's a photo of Kelly Hu, not this Jamie Chung.

[Jettison]

Oops....your right....

[Jettison]

http://www.heroesfanatic.com/images/gallery/james-kyson-lee_249x359.jpg

From heroesfanatic.com -

"During his November 11 panel at Pacific Media Expo in Los Angeles, actor James Kyson Lee (Heroes television series' Ando) said that he is trying out for the role of Yamcha in 20th Century Fox's live-action adaptation of Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball manga. He says that the movie is planned for a 2010 release and that he approved of the script so far. He also said that he was a childhood fan of manga such as Dragon Ball and Takehiko Inoue's Slam Dunk — the latter of which he had read the entire run."

[asloveislost]

does anyone remember the starting movie for the first Tenkaichi game?
i think they should do the whole movie in that style, it would probably look better.
hrmmm.

[Jettison]

Set Photos here

http://blogs.hoycinema.com/movieland/post/2007/12/15/aexclusiva-primeras-imagenes-dragon-ball-y-set-se

http://blogs.hoycinema.com/myfiles/movieland/dbzmex1.jpg

http://blogs.hoycinema.com/myfiles/movieland/dbzmex2.jpg

[saintsaucey]

I read this chick is playing Bulma at a different forum...

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/837/837435/dragon-balls-bulma-cast-20071123055933704.jpg

http://www.poster.net/rossum-emmy/rossum-emmy-photo-xl-emmy-rossum-6234429.jpg

nope this is her apparently whats the other chicks name?

[Angelus II]

This is old news to me. It was in a issue of Dragon Ball Z magazine, back in 2001. It say that the movie was coming out 2004 or 2005. Obviously that isn't true. It also say that the Rock might be playing Cell.


I read this chick is playing Bulma at a different forum...

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/837/837435/dragon-balls-bulma-cast-20071123055933704.jpg

They better give Bulma her blue eyes. They better not mess this up like on the Spider-Man movies, Peter got hazel eyes not blue. Man, if these people want to do the movie so bad then pay attention to the details.

[asloveislost]

Set Photos here

http://blogs.hoycinema.com/movieland/post/2007/12/15/aexclusiva-primeras-imagenes-dragon-ball-y-set-se

http://blogs.hoycinema.com/myfiles/movieland/dbzmex1.jpg

http://blogs.hoycinema.com/myfiles/movieland/dbzmex2.jpg

dont tell me thats goku.... this already looks horrible.

[Angelus II]

dont tell me thats goku.... this already looks horrible.
It Goku's son. Gohan, I believe him name was that.

[Jettison]

Nah, that Goku. Dissapointed by the hair....but I'm still waiting to see him in full costume.....and Master Roshi....it would be hard to screw him up....

[Nosgoth Phantom]

Here is the offficial cast so far

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117977810.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

Emmy Rossum will be the female lead, Justin Chatwin stars as Goku, and James Marsters will be Lord Piccolo as the villain.

[asloveislost]

It Goku's son. Gohan, I believe him name was that.

nah gohans not in this, this is dragonball.

[Angelus II]

nah gohans not in this, this is dragonball.

This isn't Dragon Ball Z. Man, Dragon Ball sucks. Also, wasn't Goku 10 years old in Dragon Ball. This movie going to suck before it even come out.

Well, James Marsters going to be in it, that's a plus.

[ChrisIII]

From what I remember, at the end of Dragonball, Goku is roughly close to the age he is when "Z" starts.


Also in the manga there's no distinction between the original and Z. Z was simply the title of the anime series that adapted the second half of the manga series.

[founder81]

Story is based on Akira Toriyama's manga that has spawned graphic novels

I can't take a source seriously that writes a line that makes no sense.

[Angelus II]

From what I remember, at the end of Dragonball, Goku is roughly close to the age he is when "Z" starts.


Also in the manga there's no distinction between the original and Z. Z was simply the title of the anime series that adapted the second half of the manga series.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dbcast.jpg


Goku started out as a little kid in Dragon Ball. At the end of Dragon Ball he was the Goku from Dragon Ball Z. But he was a little kid for most of Dragon Ball. This movie maybe will fill in some of the gap missing from the tv show.
Like Goku's teenage years.

[Jettison]

from Superherohype.com-

'
NEWS

Chow Yun-Fat Boards Dragonball
Source: The Hollywood Reporter December 19, 2007

Chow Yun-Fat will star in 20th Century Fox's live-action adaptation of Dragonball, says The Hollywood Reporter.

Chow will play Master Roshi. He rounds out a cast that includes Justin Chatwin, James Marsters, Emmy Rossum and Jamie Chung.

Dragonball is shooting in Mexico City and Los Angeles.

The film, directed by James Wong, follows Goku (Chatwin), a warrior alien who protects the Earth from an endless stream of rogues bent on dominating the universe and controlling mystical objects known as Dragon Balls. Stephen Chow is producing.

Master Roshi is Goku's mentor, helping him achieve the highest state of fighting and spiritual powers.'

[Jettison]

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs22/300W/i/2007/326/b/d/Dragon_Ball_The_movie_by_cazadorhotsex.jpg

fake, but still looks a little better.
http://cazadorhotsex.deviantart.com/

[mick_magpie]

ok well i herd that the movie starts hes training with his granfather and then he goes on to train with roshea and it ends he eventually fights vegeta......:confused: dont ask me how this is going to work but thats just what i heard.

does anyone actually think this movie will work? i do :)

[Gezora]

I just found out about this.

I looked up the IMDB spot on it. I saw the cast list.

James Marsters as Piccolo, it read.

........Sure not, thought I. Not that James Marsters.

I clicked the link. It brought up James Marsters. THAT James Marsters.

I stared at it for about twelve seconds, then I did something unexpected, something I thought would never happen given these circumstances.

I laughed. For about three straight minutes, I laughed the loudest and hardest that I can remember in my adult life. My stepfather came in from the next room to see what was wrong with me.

If nothing else, the very concept of what could be misconstrued as casting has brought a horrible laughing fit to my lungs. For this, I thank the creators behind this WMD of a film.

[Armless Penguin]

James Marsters is one of the better casting decisions in this travesty, in my opinion. He certainly has the facial structure.

[Jettison]

I'm anxious to hear more about this....I am really hoping it turns out to prove everybody wrong. It's obviously gonna be a reimagination of the cartoon/book....but I think there is still room for them to pull an ace outta the sleeve and surprise us.

[twilight]

Robert Smith from The Cure was the obvious choice to play Goku:

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/Pauliinawashere/The%20Cure/Robert%20Smith/RobertSmith-Lookdown.jpg

-Twi

[SnowTrooper]

James Marsters is one of the better casting decisions in this travesty, in my opinion. He certainly has the facial structure.

I agree with you 100%.

I was a huge fan of Dragonball when I was younger but if I go and see this movie, it will be because of James Marsters.

[Alex]

from Superherohype.com-

'
NEWS

Chow Yun-Fat Boards Dragonball
Source: The Hollywood Reporter December 19, 2007

Chow Yun-Fat will star in 20th Century Fox's live-action adaptation of Dragonball, says The Hollywood Reporter.

Chow will play Master Roshi. He rounds out a cast that includes Justin Chatwin, James Marsters, Emmy Rossum and Jamie Chung.

Dragonball is shooting in Mexico City and Los Angeles.

The film, directed by James Wong, follows Goku (Chatwin), a warrior alien who protects the Earth from an endless stream of rogues bent on dominating the universe and controlling mystical objects known as Dragon Balls. Stephen Chow is producing.

Master Roshi is Goku's mentor, helping him achieve the highest state of fighting and spiritual powers.'

I think it is possibly the stupidest cartoon ever created, and i blame it for the generation right under me listening to emo and anything else horrible they do.
BUT i will go see it because Chow Yun-Fat rules.

[Wenatchee the Hatchet]

After Pirates 3 and Anna & the King I'm afraid that even though I support Chow on principle I'm not sure I'll be seeing THIS movie. :( Him playing fourth fiddle to Knightley, Bloom, and Depp just pissed me off so much I'm annoyed that Hollywood has been given him stupid walk-on parts lately. I don't want him to starve or anything but I'm already not a Dragonball fan as it stands. I'm just bracing myself for this being like Gene Kelly in Xanadu (no offense meant to the people who actually like X personally intended).

[Angelus II]

I agree with you 100%.

I was a huge fan of Dragonball when I was younger but if I go and see this movie, it will be because of James Marsters.

James Marsters is amazing.

[Jettison]

Dragonball is amazing....monkey aliens pwning everything....oscar time!

[Jettison]

I cant wait to see something from the movie! With green screen effects and color correction....

[ChrisIII]

Some pictures have surfaced. Joblo took them down, but here's a link to a thread that contained them:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=50817


Anybody else think this looks like bad Cosplay?

[mattx110]

Some pictures have surfaced. Joblo took them down, but here's a link to a thread that contained them:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=50817


Anybody else think this looks like bad Cosplay?
No, cosplay has cuter asian chicks.:biggrin:

[Surtur]

I'm very leery of this film..it will either be excellent or horrible. Problem is, if it's horrible, it is going to be all new kinds of horrible..

[The Xenos]

I'm gonna wait until I see some kind of finished product. Stills from the film, press release photos, a trailer. There is going to have to be some major post production on this film.

As for the costumes. Well, just look at them. They're not that much.

Though one thing I wonder... Is Master Roshi still a total pervert? A bunch of friends were talking about the original Dragon Ball tonight and what hilarious and total pervert Roshi was.

[Mike Pothier]

I'm with Xenos. I'll wait for the first trailer before I make any sort of judgement.

Oh, and Roshi is a HUGE perv. I hope they keep that aspect in the film.

[The Xenos]

Plus Chow Yun Fat as a perv would be awesome.

I think it is possibly the stupidest cartoon ever created, and i blame it for the generation right under me listening to emo and anything else horrible they do.
BUT i will go see it because Chow Yun-Fat rules.

I really wouldn't blame Dragon Ball for emo. First of all, it's DBZ that became linked somehow to Linkin Park. Dragon Ball was more of a comedy than action or drama. Yet I think it was moreso Linkin Park was already popular. One guy made a DBZ video. (A friend had one of the first and said it wasn't bad.) Then someone copied him. Then someone copied him. Then it became a cliche to put Linkin Park to DBZ. Now it's more Linkin Park or [insert other 'emo' band here] to Naruto. Maybe now it's Bleach.

Though really, DBZ did not spawn emo music. I think some just happed to also listen to Linkin Park and the fad of making bad music videos to DBZ caught on.

Plus does anyone else remember when Weezer was emo? How the hell did Linkin Park become emo? Crap. I don't even know what emo means anymore. I thought it was Weezer, nerdy Buddy Holly looking guys pining over girls that left them. Now it's Linkin Park or whatever not-quite-goth not-quite-punk band is popular.

(Great. Now I got Weezer in my head. "If you want to destroy my sweater...")

[Jettison]

Dragonball spawned emo? WTF? I look at Dragonball as sort of the He-Man of anime....it's got basic good-bad thematic elements that are demonstrated through immense power struggles, and a cast of weird characters battling. The beauty of the series to me, is the sense of world building Akira Toryama put into his creation.....look at the old books, they look like an NES game come to life.....fun little PEANUTS style characters with a folk lore and martial arts foundation.....I fell in love with the story as a kid.....later DBZ turned it on it's head and it became this epic 'fist of the north star' style battle of the galaxy.....it matured....which I thought was so awesome....

I think theres this cheesy stigma associated with the series because of the mutation it (and other animes) went through when they were brought overseas to an american audience....the dubbing makes it sound stupid....editing the really violent stuff makes it less interesting....nerdy Linkin Park cosplay freaks wearing oversized polyesther hawaiian DBZ clubber shirts drive the nail into the coffin.....

If you really think about it, it's cool in a similar way that AVATAR: The Last Air Bender is.....I'm talking about the original series of Dragonball.....maybe in a few years, Avatar will mature with it's audience and start showing blood and death.....I could see it happening.....but the great part about Avatar is that its animated for American syndication. That, and its got a really large budget....

I'm excited to see what they do with the live action DB movie....but I think re-making the series with a higher budget, and american voice acting like AVATAR, would make most anti-DB people reconsider their dislike of the series.....because at it's core I firmly think its an awesome story and world.

[ChrisIII]

I think Gundam Wing is more associated with the whole 'emo' thing.

[The Xenos]

Okay. Yeah. Hiro was kinda.. 'emo'. Either Weezer Emo or Linkin Park Emo. Both work. Then again he was a teenager in the middle of a damn war. He was falling for a young princess in the middle of it. So, I think he has a right to be angsty. Actually, there's a better word. Angst. Emo is just angst corperately marketed and wrapped up in a sellable label.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Isnt this movie like 10 years too late?


If it ever comes out i might have to eat a bullet

Now a Sailor Moon movie....


thats got legs

[Jettison]

Anyone have any news on this? I'm really surprised we haven't seen anything.....I just want to see GOKU in costume...

[Toku King]

Some pictures have surfaced. Joblo took them down, but here's a link to a thread that contained them:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=50817


Anybody else think this looks like bad Cosplay?

Wait, that's not the actor cast as Goku. :confused:

[Jettison]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/dragonball/roadshow1.jpg

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/dragonball/roadshow2.jpg

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/dragonball/roadshow3.jpg

[Jettison]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/dragonball/roadshow4.jpg






Okay....heres what I found

[Jettison]

I like Bulma.....Goku looks weird, he may look better moving around on screen.....

I'm very dissapointed Master Roshi is not bald.....that would have made him Much better.

[SnowTrooper]

I'm still waiting for a picture of Piccolo before I get excited for this movie.

[Bulky Brent]

Why isn't Goku Japanese?

[Craig T. Nelson]

Because he's an alien, not a japanese person. LOL nah the studio needed a whiteguy for the movie thats what studios aiming for the general american audience do.

Movie looks like trash, btw.

[IronStarks]

any trailers yet?

[Guy1]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/dragonball/roadshow1.jpg

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/dragonball/roadshow2.jpg

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/dragonball/roadshow3.jpg

Yamcha looks okay I guess.

[Jared]

I really like Emmy Rossum. I think they could dye her hair blue and she'd still look good.

I wonder if they're going for a Speed Racer kind of vibe. Not neccessarily that same visual look, but the basic "cartoon brought to life" premise.

Piccallo as the villain, so they're saving Vegeta for the sequel? That seems risky, isn't he the most popular character?

Still, haven't they missed the boat on the DBZ craze by several years? I remember people talked about it high school. I'd see posters on dorm rooms in college, but nothing like that lately. Have there been any more animated movies lately?

[Guy1]

I really like Emmy Rossum. I think they could dye her hair blue and she'd still look good.

I wonder if they're going for a Speed Racer kind of vibe. Not neccessarily that same visual look, but the basic "cartoon brought to life" premise.

Piccallo as the villain, so they're saving Vegeta for the sequel? That seems risky, isn't he the most popular character?

Still, haven't they missed the boat on the DBZ craze by several years? I remember people talked about it high school. I'd see posters on dorm rooms in college, but nothing like that lately. Have there been any more animated movies lately?

I don't know about lately, last one I knew of was the Devilman movie, and that was made in 2004.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=3274

[The Xenos]

Not to mention Death Note, but i personally thought the live action (Japanese) films sucked compared to the manga and anime. There was also a live Cutey Honey movie that was like Kill Bill by way of Hello Kitty. Oh and it was directed by the nerd director who wrote Evangelion.

Why isn't Goku Japanese?

Um.. because he never was. As has been said before, he's an alien. Plus who ever said Dragon Ball took place in Japan. Do they have talking pigs in Japan? Do they have crazy Toriyama styled houses and flying cars?

[Jared]

I don't know about lately, last one I knew of was the Devilman movie, and that was made in 2004.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=3274

How is that DBZ related?

edit: Wait, I see. You thought I meant movies based on animated series, right? I was asking if they're still making Dragonball animated movies. I guess the videogames must sell fairly well, since they keep cranking out sequels.

[Guy1]

How is that DBZ related?

edit: Wait, I see. You thought I meant movies based on animated series, right? I was asking if they're still making Dragonball animated movies. I guess the videogames must sell fairly well, since they keep cranking out sequels.

Yeah, that's what I thought you meant.

And no, I don't believe they are, the last one was the GT Movie I think.

[Jettison]

You gotta wonder what the japanese fans think seeing that on the magazine rack in tokyo.....Wonder if they don't care that he's white?

I think either white or Japanese could be good...it's really a matter of whether they stay true to the style of the cartoon, but looking at these images, I have my doubts...

AND WTF!?!?! Wheres Krillin?!?!

[Jared]

Half the characters in anime don't look remotely Japanese anyway, so there's really nothing to complain about.

[BoosterBronze]

I have only a passing knowlege of the show, but from the images provided I will be avoiding this flick. The dude looks silly.