PDA

View Full Version : What books would you like to see Bendis write?


Mister Mets
09-02-2007, 11:12 AM
This is a companion to my "What books you like to see Ed Brubaker write?" thread, as Bendis may just be Marvel's most popular and prolific writer (New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, Halo, Spiderwoman, Avengers: Illuminati, Powers, Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate Origins, Ultimate Power #1-3)

So simple question. What books would you like to see Bendis do in the future?

At the moment I'm really looking forward to the Icon project he wants to do with Maleev, and the Jewish gangster story delayed for a few years by Judd Winick's Caper. If the Maleev project isn't the jewish gangster book, I can imagine John Romita Jr doing a kick-ass job as artist. I have high hopes for his Spiderwoman, given his love for the character.

As for superhero books he hasn't announced plans for, he would probably do an awesome Luke Cage. He has written the character well in Alias, The Pulse and New Avengers, and excelled in street level crime books in Daredevil, Powers and his pre-superhero books. And it would give him a good forum for Jessica Jones solo stories. I think he could make it a strong book that could survive another writer eventually taking over.

Rahul
09-02-2007, 11:23 AM
I'd like to ee him have a go at Amazing Spider-Man, if USM ever wraps up.


Failing that, Luke Cage or Moon Knight..

KirkWarren
09-02-2007, 11:31 AM
I want his Spider-Woman with Mack on art book thats been promised forever. A Luke Cage or Power Man and Iron Fist type book would be awesome as well.

DDM
09-02-2007, 11:32 AM
Millie the Model in collaboration with Shannen Doherty

Gloria
09-02-2007, 11:35 AM
I know he's working already in "Daredevil: End of Days", otherwise I'd say "a Daredevil mini-series" (I say a Mini, because I really like what Brubaker is doing in the regular series) ;)

Dark Soul # 7
09-02-2007, 11:45 AM
Anything that doesn't involve 616 Spider-man.
The one in New Avengers is obviously a skrull while the one in the spider-titles is the real deal.

EnDwiGast
09-02-2007, 11:48 AM
I would like to see Bendis writing solo titles (not teams) focusing on the characters he really enjoys while leaving the characters he doesn't -- totally out of it.

Dr. Chaos
09-02-2007, 12:18 PM
Iron-Man...dead serious.

If theres one person that could rekindle my childhood love for this character before Marvel turned him into the comic world's biggest asshole/narc, it would probably be Bendis.

Ullar
09-02-2007, 12:28 PM
None JMS, Slott, Kirkman, Brubaker are all better

sinjection
09-02-2007, 12:28 PM
As for superhero books he hasn't announced plans for, he would probably do an awesome Luke Cage. He has written the character well in Alias, The Pulse and New Avengers,....


I would much rather see Reginald Hudlin writing a new Luke Cage ongoing, SANS-Iron Fist.

Deus ex Chris
09-02-2007, 01:07 PM
Well, I'll take that Spider-Woman book ASAP. He'd also be good on a Dazzler relaunch, since revitalizing properties from the late 70's/early 80's seems to be a gift of his. Dazzle us, Bendy!!!

Toboe
09-02-2007, 01:34 PM
Iron-Man...dead serious.

If theres one person that could rekindle my childhood love for this character before Marvel turned him into the comic world's biggest asshole/narc, it would probably be Bendis.

Except for the fact that he, along with JMS, were the ones that turned him into the world's biggest asshole/narc...

I swear, you could almost hear Star Wars' imperial march whenever Iron Man appeared on New Avengers or Amazing Spider-Man during Civil War.

I'd say I would like him to do a Luke Cage solo, maybe even with Iron Fist. But his recent characterization in NA left me cold.

Cayman
09-02-2007, 01:45 PM
Spider-Woman
Iron Man
Luke Cage
Dazzler
Ms. Marvel
Maria Hill
Emma Frost

Dr. Chaos
09-02-2007, 01:47 PM
Except for the fact that he, along with JMS, were the ones that turned him into the world's biggest asshole/narc.
And?

That was the point, they had to make someone the fall guy, thats what they turned him into, that was Marvel's overall intention with the character for Civil War than it was just a deliberate attempt by any writer to ruin him.

In my opinion, theres nonthing stopping Bendis from writing a likable Iron Man if he wanted to or was hired to do so.

SUPERECWFAN1
09-02-2007, 01:50 PM
Luke Cage. He has really made that a good character in the last few years. I loved how he made him a concerned father and the best Cage story in recent years was the single issue story where he tells his wife that...its easy to run. That he could run to Canada. But he has to make a stand for his daughter so she can live in a free world and know her daddy never backed down.

I'd love to see Bendis do a Luke Cage series or a classic Powerman & Iron Fist teamup series. Where the 2 guys can be a funny team. :)

Omega Alpha
09-02-2007, 01:54 PM
Luke Cage and Spider-Woman solos.

sinjection
09-02-2007, 01:55 PM
I'd say I would like him to do a Luke Cage solo, maybe even with Iron Fist. But his recent characterization in NA left me cold.

So why inflict him on Luke Cage? I think Cage deserves his own ongoing without Iron Fist. I don't read Immortal Iron Fist. I read the first and during his musings, Rand's thought did turn briefly to "his friends", Cage, Misty Knight and Colleen Wing. Have they appeared in his book? If not, why is it okay for Fist to be without Cage, but Cage has to be encumbered with Fist?

SUPERECWFAN1
09-02-2007, 01:58 PM
So why inflict him on Luke Cage? I think Cage deserves his own ongoing without Iron Fist. I don't read Immortal Iron Fist. I read the first and during his musings, Rand's thought did turn briefly to "his friends", Cage, Misty Knight and Colleen Wing. Have they appeared in his book? If not, why is it okay for Fist to be without Cage, but Cage has to be encumbered with Fist?


If you had actually read the series Misty Knight, Luke Cage and Colleen Wing all have showed up to help Danny. In fact Cage and Danny had a fun moment where Luke saves his pal and is nursing him back to health.

The 2 muse about the old days and Luke tells Danny he's his best friend and wouldn't give up those old days they had. It was awesome and written by Ed Brubaker.

No one is saying that Luke can't be by himself. Its just that many fans have treasured memories of the classic Powerman & Iron Fist , heroes for hire series. Odds are we'd support a solo Luke Cage book just as well as a team one. (which is unlikely since Marvel has Cage/Rand in New Avengers)

Dusty.
09-02-2007, 02:02 PM
He's the guy that I wish would take over on Iron-Man to take it to the top of the sales before the film comes out. He's a fan of Dave and Bob's IM, and if I can't have them, I'd definitely give Bendis and a good artist (John Cassaday or david Finch!) my full support.

EnDwiGast
09-02-2007, 02:35 PM
I'd say I would like him to do a Luke Cage solo, maybe even with Iron Fist. But his recent characterization in NA left me cold.

Yeah. I don't know what happened there. Up to and during Civil War I was thinking Luke cage was being built up in a positive way.

Ever since, its almost like he's become a caricature/stock character.

Will.S
09-02-2007, 03:35 PM
He's the guy that I wish would take over on Iron-Man to take it to the top of the sales before the film comes out. He's a fan of Dave and Bob's IM, and if I can't have them, I'd definitely give Bendis and a good artist (John Cassaday or david Finch!) my full support.
Yeah I actually think an Iron Man book would suit Bendis perfectly given how well he wrote him in New Avengers.

Mister Mets
09-02-2007, 03:38 PM
None JMS, Slott, Kirkman, Brubaker are all better
I doubt they can write every Marvel title.

I'd like to see him have a go at Amazing Spider-Man, if USM ever wraps up.


Failing that, Luke Cage or Moon Knight..
I'll agree with you on Amazing Spider-Man (or Astonishing Spider-Man or any other regular MU Spider-Man title.)

I want his Spider-Woman with Mack on art book thats been promised forever. A Luke Cage or Power Man and Iron Fist type book would be awesome as well.
Spider-Woman is going to be with Maleev, not Mack.

So why inflict him on Luke Cage? I think Cage deserves his own ongoing without Iron Fist. I don't read Immortal Iron Fist. I read the first and during his musings, Rand's thought did turn briefly to "his friends", Cage, Misty Knight and Colleen Wing. Have they appeared in his book? If not, why is it okay for Fist to be without Cage, but Cage has to be encumbered with Fist?
1. The Iron Fist book is currently successful.

2. Luke Cage & Iron Fist are probably best friends, and more closely tied together than any two Marvel heroes.

Having Iron Fist appear often in a Cage book isn't going to hurt that book, given how the two are associated with one another.

Toboe
09-02-2007, 05:11 PM
Yeah. I don't know what happened there. Up to and during Civil War I was thinking Luke cage was being built up in a positive way.

Ever since, its almost like he's become a caricature/stock character.

I know, I was enjoying his Luke Cage a lot before Civil War and I was excited when it was announced that he would lead the post-Civil War New Avengers.

But then he goes all vagina-kicking with nonsense agressive paranoia...

With Iron Man, he's shown he can write the character well, but there was no need to vilify him so much during Civil War. Between the terrible Clor plot and his mischaracterization on NA and AMS...

Bendis did redeem him a little when he spoke at the NA on Strange's house recently, but still I wouldn't entrust him with the character's solo book.
Let's see first what he's up to in Mighty Avengers.

32Cage
09-02-2007, 06:06 PM
Luke Cage. He has really made that a good character in the last few years. I loved how he made him a concerned father and the best Cage story in recent years was the single issue story where he tells his wife that...its easy to run. That he could run to Canada. But he has to make a stand for his daughter so she can live in a free world and know her daddy never backed down.

I'd love to see Bendis do a Luke Cage series or a classic Powerman & Iron Fist teamup series. Where the 2 guys can be a funny team. :)


A revamped Power man & Iron Fist would be sweet.

Bob-el
09-02-2007, 07:00 PM
BAh! He writes no Annihilation titles. He is of no consequence on this forum. Have CBR give you a Bendis board if you want to talk about him. :evilsmile

sinjection
09-03-2007, 04:28 AM
1. The Iron Fist book is currently successful.


Good for Immortal Iron Fist. Good for the fans of the book. As for me, I have no interest in the book or in the character Iron Fist at this point.

2. Luke Cage & Iron Fist are probably best friends, and more closely tied together than any two Marvel heroes.

That they are "probably best friends" never made much sense to me. I vaguely remember their first meeting. For those who believe the Panther/Storm marriage seemed "forced", the fact that Cage and Iron Fist seemed to become friends and then trusted friends so shortly after Iron Fist was attempting to punch a hole through Cage and Cage - not liking that idea at all - was all for dismembering Iron Fist seemed to happen so suddenly that it had "forced" written all over it. As for being more closely tied together than any two Marvel heroes:

1) Cloak and Dagger are more closely bound together than any two Marvel heroes. If Cloak is separated from Dagger for too long a period, the lack of "light" drives him mad. If Dagger is separated from Cloak for too long a period, the build up of excess "light" in her system is a potentially dangerous condition. Their relationship developed naturally over time. Both are interesting characters. However, these characters are ignored. Whenever there is a suggestion of Cage getting a new ongoing title, many fans are quick to want to make sure Iron Fist is in the title as well. The same interest doesn't seem to be there for Cloak and Dagger who together, make a far more interesting team. That's not to say that I wouldn't like to see Cloak "liberated" from his need to have to be "fed" by Dagger, but I will admit the whole concept works far better and makes more sense than Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

2) Misty Knight is a hero, a Hero For Hire in fact. Jessica Jones was a hero and still possesses super powers if I'm not mistaken. I would suggest that Iron Fist should be more closely tied to Misty Knight seeing as the two are supposed to be a romantic coupling. Cage is married to Jones. A married man can have his best friends. A married couple will have offspring. Still, a husband is more closely bound to his wife and vice versa, than any two people on the planet. That's how it should be anyway.


Having Iron Fist appear often in a Cage book isn't going to hurt that book, given how the two are associated with one another.

Having Iron Fist NOT appear in a Cage ongoing would probably cause many "fans" to condemn the publication as illegitimate or something. That's a shame. Cage - like Blade - are characters who have withstood the test of time. Seeing as until Hudlin wrote him, Cage has been written extremely badly since his creation, I'm not sure how the character survived, but he did. Blade is an exciting, dynamic character in his own right. It makes no sense to me how that character is NEVER able to sustain a solo title.

But in my opinion, having Iron Fist with Luke Cage, Hannibal King with Blade, even having Tork with the Falcon during his mini series (and didn't he have a very short-lived solo ongoing?), seems to suggest Cage, Blade, Falcon or any black character could not make it unless they had a faithful white friend at their side. Hudlin's Black Panther doesn't have that type of character in his book although it was made clear that T'Challa always considered Steve Rogers to be as close to him as a brother.

Priest made the annoying Everett Ross into T'Challa's good friend. And that never made sense to me either. When did Priest's T'Challa consider Ross as his good friend? According to Priest's Panther, when they first met "at the airport". Why did Priest's Panther consider Ross worthy of being his close friend though they'd never met previously? Because his former lover Nikki Adams had seen enough in Ross to have fallen in love with him and because Priest's Panther had such a high regard for Nikki Adams, he thought her loving Ross made him "good friend material". Adams could have loved Ross because he was good in the sack and Ross could have been a total jerk otherwise. Wouldn't a character with T'Challa's heightened senses trust those senses before he'd trust the personal choices of a highly-regarded former lover?

Such things make little sense to me. The Luke Cage/Iron Fist friendship never made sense to me.

sinjection
09-03-2007, 04:40 AM
Cloak and Dagger are more closely bound together than any two Marvel heroes. If Cloak is separated from Dagger for too long a period, the lack of "light" drives him mad. If Dagger is separated from Cloak for too long a period, the build up of excess "light" in her system is a potentially dangerous condition. Their relationship developed naturally over time. Both are interesting characters. However, these characters are ignored. Whenever there is a suggestion of Cage getting a new ongoing title, many fans are quick to want to make sure Iron Fist is in the title as well. The same interest doesn't seem to be there for Cloak and Dagger who together, make a far more interesting team. That's not to say that I wouldn't like to see Cloak "liberated" from his need to have to be "fed" by Dagger, but I will admit the whole concept works far better and makes more sense than Luke Cage and Iron Fist.


And so in keeping with the topic of this thread, I'd rather see Bendis writing a new Cloak and Dagger - together or separated - before I'd see him writing Luke Cage again. He might be able to write Cloak and Dagger in a way I could personally appreciate and I believe those characters deserve another shot at an ongoing title.

overcomebyfumes
09-03-2007, 08:06 AM
Smaller titles where he can't do any real damage. Dazzler or Cloak and Dagger would be good examples. Or resurrect Alias and make it a Luke Cage / Jessica Jones book.

pax.

rogerio
09-03-2007, 09:07 AM
THE SPIDER WOMAN, please!!!:mad:

killerbass
09-03-2007, 11:49 AM
Deadpool.

I think Bendis would do a great job with Deadpool; making him a bigger player in the Marvel Universe because more people would pick up the book. And Bendis can certainly bring the funny...

(No disrepect to Fabian, as he's doing a great job over in CDP...)

--Tom

Kevinroc
09-03-2007, 01:00 PM
The answer is obvious: Namor The Sub-Mariner.

He will spend entire issues beating down his opponents physically and verbally. And it would be awesome.

SUPERECWFAN1
09-03-2007, 01:19 PM
Good for Immortal Iron Fist. Good for the fans of the book. As for me, I have no interest in the book or in the character Iron Fist at this point.

Yep...its awesome. Its written by a great pair of writers and lays a whole foundation out on the history of Iron Fist. Its a shame you won't read it since its a book that is gaining fans by telling good stories.

That they are "probably best friends" never made much sense to me. I vaguely remember their first meeting. For those who believe the Panther/Storm marriage seemed "forced", the fact that Cage and Iron Fist seemed to become friends and then trusted friends so shortly after Iron Fist was attempting to punch a hole through Cage and Cage - not liking that idea at all - was all for dismembering Iron Fist seemed to happen so suddenly that it had "forced" written all over it. As for being more closely tied together than any two Marvel heroes:

Cage was being blackmailed into doing something. I have the issues put up in storage . Iron Fist helped him. Their friendship and business had over 75 issues to grow (mature) and be a good team in their series. The reason people mock Storm/Black Panther was they had 6 issues to do a whole wedding build.

1) Cloak and Dagger are more closely bound together than any two Marvel heroes. If Cloak is separated from Dagger for too long a period, the lack of "light" drives him mad. If Dagger is separated from Cloak for too long a period, the build up of excess "light" in her system is a potentially dangerous condition. Their relationship developed naturally over time. Both are interesting characters. However, these characters are ignored.

Their profile in the Marvel Universe has been raised with Civil War. They have had many books and attempts. Its just well.... I think their boring as hell.

Whenever there is a suggestion of Cage getting a new ongoing title, many fans are quick to want to make sure Iron Fist is in the title as well. The same interest doesn't seem to be there for Cloak and Dagger who together, make a far more interesting team. That's not to say that I wouldn't like to see Cloak "liberated" from his need to have to be "fed" by Dagger, but I will admit the whole concept works far better and makes more sense than Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

This is pretty funny about your concept. Cloak and Dagger have barely been able to keep a regular series going since they had 2 attempts in the 1980's. Yet they seem more natural a team over the 2 men who have been partners , and had a teamup book that lasted 75 issues togethor ?

People want Iron Fist there since even with Immortal Iron Fist being his solo book.... people wanted Luke Cage to show up. The 2 are great pals and teamed togethor for a hell of a long time. Its no secret people want those characters to be in each others books. Or a teamup series featuring POWERMAN & IRON FIST since it was DA COOL back in the day.

2) Misty Knight is a hero, a Hero For Hire in fact. Jessica Jones was a hero and still possesses super powers if I'm not mistaken. I would suggest that Iron Fist should be more closely tied to Misty Knight seeing as the two are supposed to be a romantic coupling.

They haven't for a few years. By the end of the whole run of Powerman & Iron Fist the relationship they had was caput. She had fallen in love with another man.

Cage is married to Jones. A married man can have his best friends. A married couple will have offspring. Still, a husband is more closely bound to his wife and vice versa, than any two people on the planet. That's how it should be anyway.

If people want a teamup series , Jones can be a supporting character. If its a teamup book we can see Jones be a good character for Luke Cage in support and for Rand they can introduce someone.

In a solo book she'll get more panel time ect ect. With Rand dropping by to guest star from time to time for us fans who wanna see the old team at times.


Having Iron Fist NOT appear in a Cage ongoing would probably cause many "fans" to condemn the publication as illegitimate or something.

Where do you get this ? We all want a Luke Cage series. Its only a guest star shot at times. Its not like were gonna come online and demand the books cancellation if Danny Rand doesn't show up each issue. No one did that with Immortal Iron Fist.

That's a shame. Cage - like Blade - are characters who have withstood the test of time. Seeing as until Hudlin wrote him, Cage has been written extremely badly since his creation, I'm not sure how the character survived, but he did. Blade is an exciting, dynamic character in his own right. It makes no sense to me how that character is NEVER able to sustain a solo title.

So sayeth the man who never read any of Cage's teamup series or solo series from the 1970's/80's or anything else he's done. I like Bendis portrayal of Cage but I'd be awful stupid to proclaim it the best Luke Cage of all time and disrespect the writers like Busiek,Preist and Claremont who worked their asses off on that character in the 30+ years.

But in my opinion, having Iron Fist with Luke Cage, Hannibal King with Blade, even having Tork with the Falcon during his mini series (and didn't he have a very short-lived solo ongoing?), seems to suggest Cage, Blade, Falcon or any black character could not make it unless they had a faithful white friend at their side. Hudlin's Black Panther doesn't have that type of character in his book although it was made clear that T'Challa always considered Steve Rogers to be as close to him as a brother.

We live in a very intergrated society I believe. It shouldn't matter who is considered the characters best pal unless the book is good. Danny Rand is Luke Cage's. They ran a business togethor .

Priest made the annoying Everett Ross into T'Challa's good friend. And that never made sense to me either. When did Priest's T'Challa consider Ross as his good friend? According to Priest's Panther, when they first met "at the airport". Why did Priest's Panther consider Ross worthy of being his close friend though they'd never met previously? Because his former lover Nikki Adams had seen enough in Ross to have fallen in love with him and because Priest's Panther had such a high regard for Nikki Adams, he thought her loving Ross made him "good friend material". Adams could have loved Ross because he was good in the sack and Ross could have been a total jerk otherwise. Wouldn't a character with T'Challa's heightened senses trust those senses before he'd trust the personal choices of a highly-regarded former lover?

Such things make little sense to me. The Luke Cage/Iron Fist friendship never made sense to me.

Your knock on Everett Ross/T'Challa reads pretty funny. Perhaps Nikki Adams was so close to T'Challa and knows his sense of goodness that she could have T'Challa know what kind of man Ross is. Because he respects his former lover enough to know...she wouldn't lie to him. Or betray him .

Also its pretty funny since you won't read any old Powerman & Iron Fist books to see why the 2 became friends. In essance you wanna say the friendship of Luke Cage and Danny Rand makes no sense to me since I will not pick up any back issues and read why the 2 are regarded as good friends. Perhaps if you did you could stop questioning why a white man and a black man could be good friends in this day and age.

Affinity
09-03-2007, 01:33 PM
Spider-Woman
Iron Man
Luke Cage
Dazzler
Ms. Marvel
Maria Hill
Emma Frost

I love this list.

Especially Maria Hill and Emma Frost!
What about MARIA HILL/EMMA FROST?!

DDM
09-03-2007, 01:35 PM
The Adventures of Sprinkles A-Fru-Fru

Omega Alpha
09-03-2007, 01:35 PM
The answer is obvious: Namor The Sub-Mariner.

He will spend entire issues beating down his opponents physically and verbally. And it would be awesome.

How could i've forgot it?:( He would be PERFECT for Namor.

DDM
09-03-2007, 01:36 PM
The answer is obvious: Namor The Sub-Mariner.

He will spend entire issues beating down his opponents physically and verbally. And it would be awesome.

Given Bendis love for decompression & deus ex machinas, he certainly won't have room for character development & a story to going along with his skeletal ideas.

Omega Alpha
09-03-2007, 02:03 PM
Given Bendis love for decompression & deus ex machinas, he certainly won't have room for character development & a story to going along with his skeletal ideas.

He doesn't even need to develop Namor. He doesn't need to bring ideas. He just has to write him like he does in Illuminati and it will be a great book.

Alpha Male
09-03-2007, 02:33 PM
Good for Immortal Iron Fist. Good for the fans of the book. As for me, I have no interest in the book or in the character Iron Fist at this point.



That they are "probably best friends" never made much sense to me. I vaguely remember their first meeting. For those who believe the Panther/Storm marriage seemed "forced", the fact that Cage and Iron Fist seemed to become friends and then trusted friends so shortly after Iron Fist was attempting to punch a hole through Cage and Cage - not liking that idea at all - was all for dismembering Iron Fist seemed to happen so suddenly that it had "forced" written all over it. As for being more closely tied together than any two Marvel heroes:

1) Cloak and Dagger are more closely bound together than any two Marvel heroes. If Cloak is separated from Dagger for too long a period, the lack of "light" drives him mad. If Dagger is separated from Cloak for too long a period, the build up of excess "light" in her system is a potentially dangerous condition. Their relationship developed naturally over time. Both are interesting characters. However, these characters are ignored. Whenever there is a suggestion of Cage getting a new ongoing title, many fans are quick to want to make sure Iron Fist is in the title as well. The same interest doesn't seem to be there for Cloak and Dagger who together, make a far more interesting team. That's not to say that I wouldn't like to see Cloak "liberated" from his need to have to be "fed" by Dagger, but I will admit the whole concept works far better and makes more sense than Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

2) Misty Knight is a hero, a Hero For Hire in fact. Jessica Jones was a hero and still possesses super powers if I'm not mistaken. I would suggest that Iron Fist should be more closely tied to Misty Knight seeing as the two are supposed to be a romantic coupling. Cage is married to Jones. A married man can have his best friends. A married couple will have offspring. Still, a husband is more closely bound to his wife and vice versa, than any two people on the planet. That's how it should be anyway.




Having Iron Fist NOT appear in a Cage ongoing would probably cause many "fans" to condemn the publication as illegitimate or something. That's a shame. Cage - like Blade - are characters who have withstood the test of time. Seeing as until Hudlin wrote him, Cage has been written extremely badly since his creation, I'm not sure how the character survived, but he did. Blade is an exciting, dynamic character in his own right. It makes no sense to me how that character is NEVER able to sustain a solo title.

But in my opinion, having Iron Fist with Luke Cage, Hannibal King with Blade, even having Tork with the Falcon during his mini series (and didn't he have a very short-lived solo ongoing?), seems to suggest Cage, Blade, Falcon or any black character could not make it unless they had a faithful white friend at their side. Hudlin's Black Panther doesn't have that type of character in his book although it was made clear that T'Challa always considered Steve Rogers to be as close to him as a brother.

Priest made the annoying Everett Ross into T'Challa's good friend. And that never made sense to me either. When did Priest's T'Challa consider Ross as his good friend? According to Priest's Panther, when they first met "at the airport". Why did Priest's Panther consider Ross worthy of being his close friend though they'd never met previously? Because his former lover Nikki Adams had seen enough in Ross to have fallen in love with him and because Priest's Panther had such a high regard for Nikki Adams, he thought her loving Ross made him "good friend material". Adams could have loved Ross because he was good in the sack and Ross could have been a total jerk otherwise. Wouldn't a character with T'Challa's heightened senses trust those senses before he'd trust the personal choices of a highly-regarded former lover?

Such things make little sense to me. The Luke Cage/Iron Fist friendship never made sense to me.



The friendship between Cage and Fist made sense to me considering Danny with the assistance of Misty and Colleen helped clear Cage of the crime that landed him in Seagate Prison. Just because the two of them engaged in fisticuffs during the first meeting doesn't mean that they couldn't form a bond and become pals.

Plus issues #48-49 of Power Man were HOT!

Erik Lehnsherr
09-03-2007, 02:36 PM
It was funny how in House of M, he never really wrote Magneto with any dialogue. Him or Doom. Magneto had some lines in the first book and the last two issues. That's it. Doom? He didn't say nothing except for the FF: House of M series.

Mister Mets
09-03-2007, 03:43 PM
Good for Immortal Iron Fist. Good for the fans of the book. As for me, I have no interest in the book or in the character Iron Fist at this point.

That they are "probably best friends" never made much sense to me. I vaguely remember their first meeting. For those who believe the Panther/Storm marriage seemed "forced", the fact that Cage and Iron Fist seemed to become friends and then trusted friends so shortly after Iron Fist was attempting to punch a hole through Cage and Cage - not liking that idea at all - was all for dismembering Iron Fist seemed to happen so suddenly that it had "forced" written all over it. As for being more closely tied together than any two Marvel heroes:

1) Cloak and Dagger are more closely bound together than any two Marvel heroes. If Cloak is separated from Dagger for too long a period, the lack of "light" drives him mad. If Dagger is separated from Cloak for too long a period, the build up of excess "light" in her system is a potentially dangerous condition. Their relationship developed naturally over time. Both are interesting characters. However, these characters are ignored. Whenever there is a suggestion of Cage getting a new ongoing title, many fans are quick to want to make sure Iron Fist is in the title as well. The same interest doesn't seem to be there for Cloak and Dagger who together, make a far more interesting team. That's not to say that I wouldn't like to see Cloak "liberated" from his need to have to be "fed" by Dagger, but I will admit the whole concept works far better and makes more sense than Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

2) Misty Knight is a hero, a Hero For Hire in fact. Jessica Jones was a hero and still possesses super powers if I'm not mistaken. I would suggest that Iron Fist should be more closely tied to Misty Knight seeing as the two are supposed to be a romantic coupling. Cage is married to Jones. A married man can have his best friends. A married couple will have offspring. Still, a husband is more closely bound to his wife and vice versa, than any two people on the planet. That's how it should be anyway.




Having Iron Fist NOT appear in a Cage ongoing would probably cause many "fans" to condemn the publication as illegitimate or something. That's a shame. Cage - like Blade - are characters who have withstood the test of time. Seeing as until Hudlin wrote him, Cage has been written extremely badly since his creation, I'm not sure how the character survived, but he did. Blade is an exciting, dynamic character in his own right. It makes no sense to me how that character is NEVER able to sustain a solo title.

But in my opinion, having Iron Fist with Luke Cage, Hannibal King with Blade, even having Tork with the Falcon during his mini series (and didn't he have a very short-lived solo ongoing?), seems to suggest Cage, Blade, Falcon or any black character could not make it unless they had a faithful white friend at their side. Hudlin's Black Panther doesn't have that type of character in his book although it was made clear that T'Challa always considered Steve Rogers to be as close to him as a brother.

Priest made the annoying Everett Ross into T'Challa's good friend. And that never made sense to me either. When did Priest's T'Challa consider Ross as his good friend? According to Priest's Panther, when they first met "at the airport". Why did Priest's Panther consider Ross worthy of being his close friend though they'd never met previously? Because his former lover Nikki Adams had seen enough in Ross to have fallen in love with him and because Priest's Panther had such a high regard for Nikki Adams, he thought her loving Ross made him "good friend material". Adams could have loved Ross because he was good in the sack and Ross could have been a total jerk otherwise. Wouldn't a character with T'Challa's heightened senses trust those senses before he'd trust the personal choices of a highly-regarded former lover?

Such things make little sense to me. The Luke Cage/Iron Fist friendship never made sense to me.
Sinjection, I considered Cloak & Dagger to be an exception, as to the best of my knowledge, they have been together since their first appearance. The same is true of individuals associated with superhero teams/ sidekicks.

Luke Cage & Iron Fist are associated with one another. Both are decent characters. And I doubt Iron Fist having the sort of role in a Luke Cage book that Luke Cage has in the Iron Fist book will hurt the sales/ limit the writer.

Their first meeting may have been forced, but decades later, that's kind of irrelevant.

As for the Black Panther scene....
I read that story. Everett Ross was more of an everyman who brought his perspective to extraordinary events, and it may have been Priest's way of making a book about an African king accessible to the mostly white readership. I thought it was a good moment when T'challa revealed why he trusted Everett. I'm guessing T'challa knew Nikki Adams well enough that she wasn't just looking for someone good in bed.

Mister Mets
09-03-2007, 03:45 PM
Deadpool.

I think Bendis would do a great job with Deadpool; making him a bigger player in the Marvel Universe because more people would pick up the book. And Bendis can certainly bring the funny...

(No disrepect to Fabian, as he's doing a great job over in CDP...)

--Tom
That could be a great choice. Bendis also wrote great crime books, so it's an advantage he could have with Deadpool.

Given Bendis love for decompression & deus ex machinas, he certainly won't have room for character development & a story to going along with his skeletal ideas.
There be plenty of character development in Alias, Ultimate Spider-Man, Daredevil and Powers.

sinjection
09-03-2007, 04:33 PM
Sinjection, I considered Cloak & Dagger to be an exception, as to the best of my knowledge, they have been together since their first appearance.

The fact that Tyrone Johnson and Tandy Bowen happened to be drawn together by circumstances which led them both to NYC, that those circumstances eventually caused the two of them to be captured and experimented on, that the two characters experienced the manifestation of their power together and that those powers seem to be co-dependent makes Cloak and Dagger the two Marvel characters who are tied more closely to one another than any other tandem in the Marvel Universe. It doesn't matter when they got together or how long they've been together.

Cage's and Fist's association smells like a device that was used at that time to keep two marginal characters afloat. Their friendship is contrived in my opinion although even Hudlin did his part when writing Cage's appearance in the Black Panther to reinforce this friendship that exists between Cage and Fist.

Luke Cage & Iron Fist are associated with one another. Both are decent characters. And I doubt Iron Fist having the sort of role in a Luke Cage book that Luke Cage has in the Iron Fist book will hurt the sales/ limit the writer.

It's just that I can't see the reason why they ever needed to be friends in the first place.


Their first meeting may have been forced, but decades later, that's kind of irrelevant.

So what's fine for Cage and Fist isn't fine for T'Challa and Storm and their so-called, but very legitimate and successful marital union.

As for the Black Panther scene....
I read that story. Everett Ross was more of an everyman who brought his perspective to extraordinary events, and it may have been Priest's way of making a book about an African king accessible to the mostly white readership.

Exactly! Hudlin's Panther didn't use this device and because it was not used, this development was one of the reasons why white readers felt "slighted" and condemned the book as just a forum for Hudlin's so-called racist rants. It's disappointing how many white readers demand the Black Panther be written in a way that makes the character relevant to them, but complain bitterly when the Black Panther is written in a way that makes him relevant to the audience for which he was primarily created to attract in the first place.

I thought it was a good moment when T'challa revealed why he trusted Everett. I'm guessing T'challa knew Nikki Adams well enough that she wasn't just looking for someone good in bed

You thought it was a good moment. I thought it was beyond stupid, almost as stupid as T'Challa making Everett Ross Regent of Wakanda giving him the authority and power of rulership.

SUPERECWFAN1
09-03-2007, 04:50 PM
Their first meeting may have been forced, but decades later, that's kind of irrelevant.


Both characters books were dying. Marvel made the decision that a team book could help them. The pairing was pretty damn wild. But what happened was the book took off and fans liked it.

Its not like they were marrying the characters to each other had it not worked. They tried solo books without the classic Powerman & Iron Fist team for a lot of the last 2 decades. At least now the 2 are back working on New Avengers and Cage shows up in Immortal Iron Fist.

SUPERECWFAN1
09-03-2007, 04:57 PM
So what's fine for Cage and Fist isn't fine for T'Challa and Storm and their so-called, but very legitimate and successful marital union.

Because as you keep ignoring ...a valid point. Cage and Rand aren't a married couple. They helped Luke Cage and over 75 issues the 2 developed a good trusting friendship and business togethor. Unlike Storm who married Black Panther in 6 issues. I think thats what irks you... since fans have voiced the problems with the lack of backstory developed for this wedding.


Exactly! Hudlin's Panther didn't use this device and because it was not used, this development was one of the reasons why white readers felt "slighted" and condemned the book as just a forum for Hudlin's so-called racist rants. It's disappointing how many white readers demand the Black Panther be written in a way that makes the character relevant to them, but complain bitterly when the Black Panther is written in a way that makes him relevant to the audience for which he was primarily created to attract in the first place.

Actually I believe one story that many had a problem with was basically the Katrina arc. And again valid criticism of bad writing doesn't mean "WHITEY" is chasing down your book. Its really shocking how many of these white readers don't like Hudlin's Black Panther series which you keep claiming over and over again. When in fact its basically.... give comic fans good stories and they'll likely read the f-cking books. They are with the Event storylines with Civil War/Zombies/Wedding. If they stay thats a measure on if Hudlin is a good writer...not how many white readers are dropping it.

G. Boney
09-05-2007, 12:00 PM
He should stick to Powers. Maybe Moon Knight. He can't right people with powers well.

Mister Mets
09-05-2007, 02:18 PM
Bendis says on his board that he's got a big announcement coming this weekend..
http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=125683

He should stick to Powers. Maybe Moon Knight. He can't right people with powers well.
I can see it now.

Joe Quesada: Some guy on the internet says you can't write powers well. So we're kicking you off everything but Powers. You can have Moon Knight if you want.
Bendis: But I've made the Avengers into Marvel's top franchise with two books in the top ten. Ultimate Spider-Man just had its 112th issue, and it's still doing well in trades.
Joe Quesada: Some guy on the internet didn't like it, so you're off the books.
Bendis: What about Halo?
Joe Quesada: The guy on the internet only gave two options: Powers and Moon Knight.

In that scenario, how long would it take DC to offer Bendis a few A-list projects?

jade_nova
09-05-2007, 03:55 PM
I would like to see him on Exiles. He can have whatever characters he wants and write whatever stories he wants since the book deals with alternate realities.

G. Boney
09-05-2007, 04:46 PM
Bendis says on his board that he's got a big announcement coming this weekend..
http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=125683


I can see it now.

Joe Quesada: Some guy on the internet says you can't write powers well. So we're kicking you off everything but Powers. You can have Moon Knight if you want.
Bendis: But I've made the Avengers into Marvel's top franchise with two books in the top ten. Ultimate Spider-Man just had its 112th issue, and it's still doing well in trades.
Joe Quesada: Some guy on the internet didn't like it, so you're off the books.
Bendis: What about Halo?
Joe Quesada: The guy on the internet only gave two options: Powers and Moon Knight.



Hey, if I had that much power that would be the $hit!:D

will_butler
09-05-2007, 08:01 PM
I'm not really a Bendis fan. I've enjoyed some of his earlier Ultimate Spider-Man run, and Alias certainly had its moments, but his work (especially his ponderous slabs of dialogue) tends to leave me cold. I did just pick up the his last two Daredevil trades as a lead in for when I start reading Brubaker's run, though, so hopefully I'll find something to like there.

I gave this some thought, though, and I think he could write a fairly badass Doc Samson book. He could really play up the psychoanalysis, so there would actually be a reason for the characters to talk constantly.

Will

Spiffy
09-05-2007, 10:20 PM
Let him keep his Ultimate stuff. His weird, somewhat egotistical need to reinvent everything ALMOST works there.

But in the "616"? I've had enough of him. Sorry!

Akelexre
09-06-2007, 03:28 AM
I'd like to see Bendis be Ultimate exclusive. I think he's a perfect fit for the Ultimate Universe (in terms of the structure and tone of the UU and Bendis's storytelling ability meshing well together) and it'd be nice to see one talented, driven force behind the UU over the next few years.

Deep_Sleeper
09-06-2007, 07:13 AM
I naturally assumed he'd do a Luke Cage book. When I found out that he was doing Spider-Woman with Maleev, I was kinda bummed out.

Rahul
09-06-2007, 10:10 AM
Now, that I think of it, a Namor and Deadpool mini by Bendis would definitely be in the top 5 books of that month.....