Black Canary: Dissed? (SPOILER)

[Ring Slinger]

With Zero Hour, the JLA's history was revised to have five starting members: Hal Jordan GL, Barry Allen Flash, Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, and Black Canary. With Infinite Crisis and those super retcon punches, the founding roster supposedly jumped to eight to include the trinity of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman-- I know that I wasn't the only one that thought Black Canary was being left in as a founding member, but with JLoA #12 that came out this week, Black Canary seems NOT to be a founding member. In fact, MM and Aquaman discuss that the original League was really more about themselves and GL and Flash while the trinity was "different." This still doesn't explain Black Canary's role as a founding member if she has one at all anymore! Is JLA: YEAR ONE completely in the trash bin now?

[DMike]

I doubt they'd make a new origin in 52 keeping Dinah as one of the founders just to take her back out a couple months later. Likely Meltzer or the artist simply forgot to include her in those pages.

[CBikle]

There were a lot of changes with Zero Hour that I didn't like and this was one of them, so I'm OK with this.

[Jack]

There were a lot of changes with Zero Hour that I didn't like and this was one of them, so I'm OK with this.
There were a lot of changes with Zero Hour that I did like, and this was one of them.

And anyway, it's just Meltzer doing his own thing. Like the way in a Meltzer comic, everyone knows everyone else's secret identity, and will constantly use civilian names in inappropriate situations.

[Joe Acro]

Likely Meltzer or the artist simply forgot to include her in those pages.I think the editor is more responsible than anyone else.

[jester1436]

Black Canary was established as a founding member in "Secret Origin" Post-COIE, not Post-Zero Hour, due to Wonder Woman's inability to be the founding female member.

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I honestly don't see why Canary shouldn't be considered a founder. This isn't Earth One and it's not the singular Earth of Post-COIE/Post-ZH, so why not have both Wonder Woman and the Black Canary as founders? I don't see how it lessons the mythology of the League or Wonder Woman.

[CBikle]

There were a lot of changes with Zero Hour that I did like, and this was one of them.

Like Alex Ross, Meltzer seems to be a "purist" when it comes to DC history; he's basically using the stories he read as a kid as his bible and doesn't really refer or acknowledge a lot of recent retcons/reboots. For the most part, I think this is a good thing.

Like the way in a Meltzer comic, everyone knows everyone else's secret identity, and will constantly use civilian names in inappropriate situations.

I've noticed this too. I think he does this to give his dialogue a more natural flow; I'm OK for giving him a pass on this one as chalking it up to "artistic license".

[Corrina]

I'm way more worried about how Winick will write her in the upcoming GA/BC book than I am about a retcon dissing her.

[Paul Dee]

Like Alex Ross, Meltzer seems to be a "purist" when it comes to DC history; he's basically using the stories he read as a kid as his bible and doesn't really refer or acknowledge a lot of recent retcons/reboots. For the most part, I think this is a good thing.


Depends if you're writing in Dc continuity or not. Alex Ross usually doesn't and so can do what he likes to a certain extent.

[Starwolf_o]

I'm VERY curious if the GA/BC series will be Dinah and Connor instead of Dinah and Ollie. (Connor has appeared on the preview covers of the first two issues, not Ollie.)

I know a lot of fans worry about Winick and his Degrassi style of social commentary. I wouldn't sweat it too much. I don't see it affecting Black Canary.

[Corrina]

No, I'm more worried about the fact that in the last few issues of GA, Winick's writing of Black Canary was not good at all.

And his take on Oliver Queen doesn't make me very interested, either.

[Raker616]

Like most of Brad's JLA run this was yet another reason why i'm glad that he's gone for the title, Waid's JLA origin says that Dinah is a founder and that's good enough for me.