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IamtheRock3
08-16-2007, 03:06 PM
after brave and the bold it got me wondering if they could come back


Want to see more over the top adventure

shrike
08-16-2007, 03:14 PM
with the right hook, artist and writer anything is possible.

Jack Zodiac
08-16-2007, 03:38 PM
Written and drawn by great talent, say Darwyn Cooke, it would be great. If that's what you mean by "work." If "will it work?" means "will it sell?," then no, it would not. There's no room for pure fun in mainstream comics. Which is why stuff like Countdown outsells stuff like The Spirit.

Infra-Man
08-16-2007, 08:09 PM
I'd say a 4-6 issue mini written/illustrated by Darwyn Cooke or written by Cooke and illustrated by Mike Allred -- that would be keen. Probably ain't going to happen

EDIT:
Other candidates for handling the series: Rick Remender, Frank Espinosa, Paul Grist, Guillermo del Toro.

IamtheRock3
08-16-2007, 08:40 PM
Written and drawn by great talent, say Darwyn Cooke, it would be great. If that's what you mean by "work." If "will it work?" means "will it sell?," then no, it would not. There's no room for pure fun in mainstream comics. Which is why stuff like Countdown outsells stuff like The Spirit.


Spirit sales OK

just cause your not no 1 doesnt mean your last, no matter what Ricky bobby says

Kid Kyoto
08-17-2007, 01:00 AM
No, no it cannot.

The Chals were a mildly popular team FORTY+ years ago.

Why would bringing them back be a good idea?

Can't writers make anything new?
Can't fans accept anything new?

Nintendite
08-17-2007, 09:30 AM
As a mini-series or possibly a back-up in a anthology, it could possibly work. But as a long, continuous series, I don't think it would work. Although I'd give the job to Darwyn Cooke, BTW, with either Darwyn Cooke drawing as well.

Zero Hunter
08-17-2007, 11:16 AM
No, no it cannot.

The Chals were a mildly popular team FORTY+ years ago.

Why would bringing them back be a good idea?

Can't writers make anything new?
Can't fans accept anything new?


What so everything old should just be forgotten and never used again? That is a stupid arguement. We would never had had stuff like the JSA or the Agents of Atlas books if someone had not decided to take old characters and dust them off and give them new life. Yeah writers can come up with somthing new, but if they have a good idea for an old character why not use them instead of making some new character who would proably just end up forgoteen latter on anyway.

CYOTI
08-17-2007, 03:54 PM
That is a stupid arguement. We would never had had stuff like the JSA or the Agents of Atlas books if someone had not decided to take old characters and dust them off and give them new life. JSA was a proven concept as shown by the numerous Roy Thomas helmed titles it spawned such as All Star Squadron, Young All-Stars and Infinity Inc. DC's reluctance in exploiting the concept was in part because of the fact that the concept wasn't popular with 90s DC editorial. As for Agents of Atlas, they were never given their proper due until now except one issue of What If? and a handoff of appearances in minis such as Avengers Forever and The Lost Generation.

In contrast however there has been by my count 3 failed attempts at doing the Challengers of the Unknown in the last two decades not to mention the failed 70s version, my favorite next to the Loeb-Sale one. If anything the Challengers of the Unknown are a financial blackhole that DC should just give to Vertigo.

Kid Kyoto
08-17-2007, 09:02 PM
What so everything old should just be forgotten and never used again? That is a stupid arguement. We would never had had stuff like the JSA or the Agents of Atlas books if someone had not decided to take old characters and dust them off and give them new life. Yeah writers can come up with somthing new, but if they have a good idea for an old character why not use them instead of making some new character who would proably just end up forgoteen latter on anyway.

I see no problem with reprinting something that was good, I have shelves of silver age reprints.

But I don't se ethe point of nostalgia for a series that was never all that good or all that popular to begin with. Why must every half-baked silver or golden age idea be trotted out again? The metal men are on their third or forth revival, so are the challengers, Lord knows who else...

Yeah, fifty years ago DC struck gold by reviving and modernizing the Flash and Green Lantern, thirty years ago Marvel struck gold with the 'all new all different X-man' but since them comics has been stuck in this cycle of mining the past and not moving forward.

Like you said new characters tend to be forgotten too, fans certainly deserve some blane for that. So let's get off the merry-go-round and decide the boycott warmed over silver age characters and support new ones.

jadehorde
08-18-2007, 12:59 AM
I see no problem with reprinting something that was good, I have shelves of silver age reprints.

But I don't se ethe point of nostalgia for a series that was never all that good or all that popular to begin with. Why must every half-baked silver or golden age idea be trotted out again? The metal men are on their third or forth revival, so are the challengers, Lord knows who else...

Yeah, fifty years ago DC struck gold by reviving and modernizing the Flash and Green Lantern, thirty years ago Marvel struck gold with the 'all new all different X-man' but since them comics has been stuck in this cycle of mining the past and not moving forward.

Like you said new characters tend to be forgotten too, fans certainly deserve some blane for that. So let's get off the merry-go-round and decide the boycott warmed over silver age characters and support new ones.

I don't know, the crew of Donna, Choi, and Todd...and Bob work for me.

I've been racking my brain trying to come up with a DC Exiles team considering how more closely tied DC alternate worlds are, and this strikes me as similar in concept but wholly unique to DC, which was where I had problems trying to come up with a good team.

Aaron King
08-18-2007, 01:02 AM
The Kaminski/Leon series was good, too. It just got stuck in the '90s glut.

Fatguy
08-18-2007, 01:51 AM
While I do believe older concepts/characters/teams shouldnt necessarily be forgotten:

Can't writers make anything new?

Often

Can't fans accept anything new?

Rarely, at best.

The comic industry, at least the big two, are by far more often than not punished for trying to find audiences for new characters.