MERGE: If you could bring Wendell back, how would you do it?

[wallred]

I thought it would be a good idea to focus the thoughts of us Quasar fans on just what we can do to get Wendell back as Quasar.
Essentially, a place to gather and plan a strategy (or strategies). Since there seems to be a lot of us here, here seemed like a good place.
As the webmaster of the Quantum Zone (http://www.quantumzone.org/), I'm willing to use it to help.
So, what are some of the ideas out there now?
Hand-written (typed) letters to Bill Roseman that remain positive, but let him and Marvel know that we have money that we'd like to give them, but they have to give us Wendell (sorry, no substitutes).
I've been toying with the idea of getting Quasar #13-25 hardbound at a print shop and sending a copy to Joey Q and Bill Roseman with a letter explaining that these were great comics that need to be collected.
As the 30th Anniversary of Quasar is coming up, I've decided to steal a page from those all-powerful ;) Nova fans and try to put together a Quantum Zone #1 fanzine (PDF) to be released in January.
So, what can we do? How do we get the word out?
Do we need a Save Quasar website? That's certainly doable.
Let's get organized and make our well-mannered and respectful (just like our hero) voices be heard.

[aniscape]

I am here...ready and willing! Use me as you see fit. I think the ideas presented are a great start that we can expand from.

Maybe having a "Bring back Wendell" section at the Quantum Zone were we could have material for other fans to use.

Examples would be:

A pre-written Letter expressing how the return of Wendell means to the fans
Desktops and other art for the Wendell fans
Avatars and Signatures to be used by the fans
And anything else we can come up with!


I am stoked about this and want to do what I can to ensure his return :)

[Mr. Bowflex]

As a Quasar fan who felt he was alone in a sea of Wolverine/Punisher fans, it's great to see the response here in the CBR forums and to know that I'm not alone.

I'm ready, willing, and able to do whatever to see his return.

It will be interesting to see the developments here and at Marvel in the future.

Right now, it just seems that Marvel is killing off a lot of its innocence for "realism". . .

[Mr. Bowflex]

This was mentioned in the "Ask Andy Schmidt" topic, but I think it deserves mentioning here.

Going up to the creators at all the various cons should make an impact as well. One of the things they're there for is fan interaction and to see what the public desires. I don't see anything wrong with respectfully talking about Quasar and hopefully, his return.

I myself plan on being at the San Diego Con this summer and already plan to do the above.

I don't think one person alone will make a difference, but a lot of people should make something click in some creator's head. . .

[Satyrquaze]

Sign me up!

I agree that the general voice to be heard from us (Wendell fans) should not be one of whining or bitching about how unfair it's been.

Sending issues #13-25 to Quesada is a fantastic idea! We need to remind him that Wendell does still have fans; we can be as vocal and loyal as 100 times our number of Wolverine fans.

I am interested to see what they do with Conquest and the Q-bands inparticular, but I want our Quasar back as well. We also may want to consider an old-fashioned signature collection, I would think there was a large enough reaction to Andy's thread asking if we wanted a Quasar book starring Wendell again.

Is there an email addy at Marvel in which we can offer feedback?

[Expletive Deleted]

There are plenty, but I've heard that actual, physical letters tend to carry more weight.

[danteipp]

This is great, sign me up too. If someone provides a proper address, versus just a general Marvel mailing address, I will be happy to write some letters too.

[aniscape]

I will make sure I attend the convention in Charlotte North Carolina.

Hey maybe we can design fliers that we can pass out to people and creators at these convetions about our interest to bring Wendell back and point them in the right direction if they want to help...

Like providing the MArvel address to send letters, Quatum zone website, Cool pictures of Wendell and great storylines that he has appeared. Something to spark conversation at the conventions and maybe find other Wendell fans that we did not know exixted.

I would be happy to put a flier together if you all shoot ideas and other things that should be on it.

Let me know...

[IMJ]

As the 30th Anniversary of Quasar is coming up, I've decided to steal a page from those all-powerful ;) Nova fans and try to put together a Quantum Zone #1 fanzine (PDF) to be released in January.

As you know Will, I've got some experience in the fanzine thing (A.I. is the longest running 'zine on the web, & arguably the most downloaded in PDF). That and the fact that I love the Quasar character, and I'm in for a zine if you need "stuff". I love writing "stuff"... heh...

[Mysterio's Helmet]

Aye. You can count on my steel!

(bonus points if you know what movie that's from.)

Hand written letters do work. I'll be sending mine at the end of the week.


And perhaps we can get the Cap fans on our side, too. Since he's (as far as I'm concerned) a Gruenwald character, too.

Hey Will, need help or an extra writer, shoot me a pm.

[Anthony]

Like I'd let you guys get this action without me.

:)

[aniscape]

I am speechless... first Wendell and now Cappy...

I think I am going to go cry... I'll catch up with you all later.. :(

[Enigmanaut]

I am speechless... first Wendell and now Cappy...

I think I am going to go cry... I'll catch up with you all later.. :(

Well, let's make certain Quasar comes back from the great beyond and brings Cap back with him.

Avengers Resurrected!

[danteipp]

I am speechless... first Wendell and now Cappy...

I think I am going to go cry... I'll catch up with you all later.. :(

Marvel is sending quite a message to its fans huh? Kill Captain America and Quasar, you never know what is going to happen to Hawkeye on a given day, clone Thor and make him a killer, blow up Scott Lang and blast a hole through Bill Foster. For the most part all of these hero's are the guys who don't kill or refrain from doing so if at all possible. I guess we should have seen it coming though when they allowed Wolverine into the Avengers.

[stingerman]

Sign me up too. Quasar was the first comic I ever bought. How about doing one of those online petitions? I think they're free.

[Raker Q.]

Count me in...I would be honored to stand with the rest of you in any attempt to bring back our boy Wendell.......hell it was because of all you guys that I registered on this board....I was suprised to find other Quasar fans out there and was glad I did........I dont post everytime I get on here but I'm always reading the threads and what you all have to say.....I'm interested in going to a convention too....how do you find out where they are being held?...I live in the New England area....will there be one close by?....well....lets keep this ball rolling.....I'm excited......this thread has put a smile on my face after it was wiped away earlier today when I found out about Gruenwalds other character :(

Raker ready and reporting for duty! :)

[wallred]

Wow!
Is everybody feeling the Wendell love, or what? ;)
So, looks like we need a letter, if you guys want to get started on it and get me the text, I'll PDF it and get it on the Quantum Zone ASAP. I can start work on a letter, but not until Sunday if nobody else wants to try it. How about we post some drafts here and let everybody eyeball them?
I have my Quasar avatar on the Quantum Zone, but haven't really made it available...do we want to collect Quasar avatars for me to make available on the ol' QZ? If so, just start sending them to me... I'm wallred@quantumzone.org
As to desktops, I can collect those at the QZ, as well. However, let it be known that as an artist, I make a good network administrator (in other words, I suck). I have got a few high-res images that I've scanned and cleaned up with Photoshop, so if anybody wants to make a desktop, I might be able to help out.
I'll look into the binding thing...we should probably have a letter included with them, as well, but that can be worked out later.
I'll also put something on the Quantum Zone front page and create a collection of things a Quasar fan can do page. Of course, we need to come up with these things. I wonder if sending copies of Quasar to Marvel would be effective...I honestly don't know...just thinking out loud.
As to the PDF fanzine thing, we've got 9 months, but it's never to early to start planning. What should be in this thing? I'm thinking it needs to be 60 pages since the series lasted 60 issues, but I'm not quite right. :) Here are some ideas that I have...


Mark Gruenwald tribute
Must include Gru's genesis of the series from #2
Everything there is to know about the Quantum-Bands...I was thinking of just PDFing the original typed pages.
Costumes of Quasar
The Many Deaths of Quasar
Interviews
include interviews from Quantum Zone, but also hit people like Peter Sanderson and Ron Marz (writers), Greg Capullo, Dave Hoover, and Rurik Tyler (pencillers), some of the editors(?). I also thought it might be neat to talk to Roy Thomas (Captain America #217), Don Glut (Captain America #218), Roger McKenzie (Captain America #'s 228-230), Roger Stern (Incredible Hulk #'s 232-234) and David Michelinie (Incredible Hulk #232)
Sketches (I was thinking of having a few of my Quasar sketches professionally colored for use in this)
Favorite covers

Other ideas? If so, let's take them off-board since we need to focus on the matter at hand, getting our boy back.

[aniscape]

Just a quick note before I go to bed...can you set up a board at Quantum Zone? That way we could all sign up and really get this opend up. Have new members join and really see what kinda of numbers we are dealing with...just a thought. I will work on a flyer ... kinda of a greatest moments in Wendell history ...point to the Quantum Zone... and anything else we can fit in it without it looking too busy.

[wallred]

Just a quick note before I go to bed...can you set up a board at Quantum Zone? That way we could all sign up and really get this opend up. Have new members join and really see what kinda of numbers we are dealing with...just a thought. I will work on a flyer ... kinda of a greatest moments in Wendell history ...point to the Quantum Zone... and anything else we can fit in it without it looking too busy.


Excellent idea!
Well, it was excellent until it took me 5 hours to set it up. ;)
However, it is indeed setup now, so all you Quasophiles, hit http://quantumzone.org/forum/ and sign-up. I haven't linked it off the main page yet, so kick the tires and let me know what needs to be added/fixed.

[nova64]

Excellent idea!
Well, it was excellent until it took me 5 hours to set it up. ;)
However, it is indeed setup now, so all you Quasophiles, hit http://quantumzone.org/forum/ and sign-up. I haven't linked it off the main page yet, so kick the tires and let me know what needs to be added/fixed.

Hey, Wil!

Okay, I'll jump on the Q-Bandswagon! To the forum I go.

Doug

[aniscape]

Great... I just signed up. I will see what I can do this weekend. Maybe you could list when all the conventions will be and where that way if any members that will be attending who live close buy we can coordinate activities.

[stingerman]

Excellent idea!
Well, it was excellent until it took me 5 hours to set it up. ;)
However, it is indeed setup now, so all you Quasophiles, hit http://quantumzone.org/forum/ and sign-up. I haven't linked it off the main page yet, so kick the tires and let me know what needs to be added/fixed.

I signed up but my password doesnt work. Am I supposed to get a confirmation e-mail or something? I havent...yet?

[wallred]

I signed up but my password doesnt work. Am I supposed to get a confirmation e-mail or something? I havent...yet?

Not sure what's going on...did you not receive any confirmation e-mail? E-Mail me directly at wallred@quantumzone.org, and we'll get you fixed up.

[Verminous]

:D The best chance you guys have is to kidnap Joe Q or Christos Gage and make him write Wendall back in. Honestly the only thing I think this kind of reaction does is reinforce the fact that you are interested in the cosmic Marvel U again and so the writers and promoters have done their job perfectly. Honestly there wasn't anywhere near this kind of clamouring for Wendall when he was in comics limbo.

I'm sure they would take notice of the fact that the Wendall fans have money to spend on the "real" Quasar when 40-50,000 of you promise to pay up front for the new Quasar series with him in it. Otherwise it's all lip service.

Sorry to piss on your chips but by all means give it a go, but face the reality that Marvel is a company and not a fan-boy project.

[wallred]

Not sure what's going on...did you not receive any confirmation e-mail? E-Mail me directly at wallred@quantumzone.org, and we'll get you fixed up.

Sorry guys, the forum admin is an idiot (yes, that's me).
Mail wasn't configured properly for the forum app, so it wasn't going out.
I just did a test and it seemed to work, so give it another try, and feel free to call me an idiot. :)

[danteipp]

:D The best chance you guys have is to kidnap Joe Q or Christos Gage and make him write Wendall back in. Honestly the only thing I think this kind of reaction does is reinforce the fact that you are interested in the cosmic Marvel U again and so the writers and promoters have done their job perfectly. Honestly there wasn't anywhere near this kind of clamouring for Wendall when he was in comics limbo.

I'm sure they would take notice of the fact that the Wendall fans have money to spend on the "real" Quasar when 40-50,000 of you promise to pay up front for the new Quasar series with him in it. Otherwise it's all lip service.

Sorry to piss on your chips but by all means give it a go, but face the reality that Marvel is a company and not a fan-boy project.

Thanks for your brilliant suggestion of kidnapping but I think we are going to go the non-felon route to start. If we need a mastermind to delve into a criminal endeavor, well then one of us will give you a call. Stay by your phone just in case.

You note "there wasn't anywhere near this kind of clamouring for Wendall when he was in comics limbo." maybe that is because for the last five years or so there hasn't been much of a cosmic Marvel universe to speak of. Most cosmic characters were in limbo, not just Quasar. But that has changed with Annihilation and the respective tie-ins so NOW is the time to strike.

Marvel is a company and they are looking to make money? Wow, and here I thought it was a charity organization I had been donating my money to all these years. I guess I better amend my taxes before the IRS hauls me off.

The first step is getting Wendell/Quasar back. The best way to do that is to remind Marvel that he has fans and hit them up with as much positive PR as possible. Then of course support the character as much as possible by buying his appearances, which we are all happy to do.

Wendell/Quasar may not have enough fans to support an ongoing monthly, but he does have enough die-hard fans to move a well-written and drawn cosmic mini-series and he can move additional books with an appearance in a regular series like Nova or as part of a team book like the Avengers. Knowing that there is interest in the character and that he can sell additional books based on his appearances may move Marvel to bring him back. Having Wendell return means more money for Marvel as fans will buy books he appears in that we would not buy normally.

[Quasar's Bands]

Aniscape,
Hey, first of all, I thought it was appropriate that they killed Cap. I mean, we all said that Wendell was the closest thing to Cap in space. The message is, for the next two years, there will be neither a Cap IN space or a Cap ON Earth. In other words, Marvel isn't a place for the most noble and true - TODAY.
But, you see, Ed Brubaker has reported that he already had a "two year storyline" in the planning before there ever was mention of Civil War. His contract runs through issue #50. Want to guess when Cap returns?
In the first issue of C.A. - the Red Skull was killed, and he was, kinda. Now he's in someone's head. Just like RS, Cap will be back. For the next two years, we will see Bucky and crew do their best, and then, when the time warrants - Cap will return like the hero he is.
In the meanwhile, we're to understand that Iron Man actually fears Shield and is trying to temper their power and abilities from within. Let's see where that gets the Marvel Universe in two years. About that time, Cap might be very, very much needed to bring hope back to the people.
So, then there is Wendell. Marvel is going to see how Phyla does sales-wise. I'm buying the first issue, unless the art stinks. Why? Because sales of first issues never tell Marvel anything. What is telling is if the second issue sales go down, then the third even more, then the forth even more, then the fifth. Now, it may be a good story - so I'm not going to say I'm NOT going to buy the series. But there are elements working against it after issue 1 - as we all know. I think EVERYONE should buy issue 1 to show Gage we like him as an author, and then if we want to send a message to Marvel, then everyone in their time should starting dropping from the series. At THAT point, the letters should be written in complaint. Otherwise, we all look we are prejudging a character before she's given a chance.
Which is the irony, right? They never gave our boy a chance. And now WE will be condemned for having an opinion on a character who we never gave a chance to, even though the tragedy is how badly Marvel treated our guy. (sigh).

[stingerman]

Aniscape,
But, you see, Ed Brubaker has reported that he already had a "two year storyline" in the planning before there ever was mention of Civil War. His contract runs through issue #50. Want to guess when Cap returns?


BINGO! Right in Time for the Captain America Movie in 2009!

[Verminous]

Thanks for your brilliant suggestion of kidnapping but I think we are going to go the non-felon route to start. If we need a mastermind to delve into a criminal endeavor, well then one of us will give you a call. Stay by your phone just in case.

Ok, have you got my number. This is exciting
You note "there wasn't anywhere near this kind of clamouring for Wendall when he was in comics limbo." maybe that is because for the last five years or so there hasn't been much of a cosmic Marvel universe to speak of. Most cosmic characters were in limbo, not just Quasar. But that has changed with Annihilation and the respective tie-ins so NOW is the time to strike.

So why didn't you clamour for this before Quasar wasn't always cosmic, the feeling I get is nobody cared until he was killed but now ya'll can do a lot of pissing and moaning cos' thats what some internet comic fans do best.

Marvel is a company and they are looking to make money? Wow, and here I thought it was a charity organization I had been donating my money to all these years. I guess I better amend my taxes before the IRS hauls me off.

Awww how naive of you, I'm full of helpful little nuggets of info like that.

The first step is getting Wendell/Quasar back. The best way to do that is to remind Marvel that he has fans and hit them up with as much positive PR as possible. Then of course support the character as much as possible by buying his appearances, which we are all happy to do.

Yep all of you aye, well Marvel may actually get mail from a few hundred people then, I'm sure that will sway 'em.

Wendell/Quasar may not have enough fans to support an ongoing monthly, but he does have enough die-hard fans to move a well-written and drawn cosmic mini-series and he can move additional books with an appearance in a regular series like Nova or as part of a team book like the Avengers. Knowing that there is interest in the character and that he can sell additional books based on his appearances may move Marvel to bring him back. Having Wendell return means more money for Marvel as fans will buy books he appears in that we would not buy normally.

Well all the best to you I hope you guys get what you want. Personally speaking I just love good stories and I'll read the new Quasar.

Just an idea if you maybe support the new Quasar mini Marvel will see the cosmic Marvel U has legs and then there's a great chance your Wendell will return.

[danteipp]

Ok, have you got my number. This is exciting

Don't get too excited, we have you marked down as the fall guy if things turn sour.

So why didn't you clamour for this before Quasar wasn't always cosmic, the feeling I get is nobody cared until he was killed but now ya'll can do a lot of pissing and moaning cos' thats what some internet comic fans do best.

Hey I always supported Quasar. I bought everything I could find involving Quasar, including lots of original art. In fact I think I went up against Wallred several times on eBay. Unfortunately I just found this forum right around Annihilation otherwise I would have spoken up sooner.

Also I think most Quasar fans got excited when Andy asked if we would be interested in a Quasar comic. Obviously there was overwhelming support for that so then killing him off may have perturbed a few fans.

Yep all of you aye, well Marvel may actually get mail from a few hundred people then, I'm sure that will sway 'em.

Well even a small, vocal movement is better than doing nothing now isn't it? You whined earlier that most comic fans just piss and moan, we are actually doing something. Personally I will feel better just knowing that I made an honest effort, even if it fails. That is better than just busting other people's stones.

Just an idea if you maybe support the new Quasar mini Marvel will see the cosmic Marvel U has legs and then there's a great chance your Wendell will return.

If you read my earlier post I already said I would pick up the Phyla series since I enjoy the Marvel cosmic U. And like I also said earlier, Wendell/Quasar may not be able to support an ongoing solo series but if Marvel knows there is sustained interest in the character they may just bring him back in some capacity.

After all he probably has more die-hard fans than other cosmic characters like Firelord, Stardust, Nebula, etc. So if there is a place for them in the Marvel U then there is a place for Wendell as Quasar, especially if they give him a Ronan-like makeover.

[Verminous]

doublepost

[Verminous]

Don't get too excited, we have you marked down as the fall guy if things turn sour. .

touche:D



Hey I always supported Quasar. I bought everything I could find involving Quasar, including lots of original art. In fact I think I went up against Wallred several times on eBay. Unfortunately I just found this forum right around Annihilation otherwise I would have spoken up sooner.

Also I think most Quasar fans got excited when Andy asked if we would be interested in a Quasar comic. Obviously there was overwhelming support for that so then killing him off may have perturbed a few fans.



Well even a small, vocal movement is better than doing nothing now isn't it? You whined earlier that most comic fans just piss and moan, we are actually doing something. Personally I will feel better just knowing that I made an honest effort, even if it fails. That is better than just busting other people's stones.



If you read my earlier post I already said I would pick up the Phyla series since I enjoy the Marvel cosmic U. And like I also said earlier, Wendell/Quasar may not be able to support an ongoing solo series but if Marvel knows there is sustained interest in the character they may just bring him back in some capacity.

After all he probably has more die-hard fans than other cosmic characters like Firelord, Stardust, Nebula, etc. So if there is a place for them in the Marvel U then there is a place for Wendell as Quasar, especially if they give him a Ronan-like makeover.

Well I tip my hat to you my friend I like the positivity, perhaps I was being a bit harsh because of all the anti-Phyla over-reaction in other threads. I hope you guys get what you want. All I wanna do is read great Marvel stories if those include Wendell then bring it on.

[danteipp]

Well I tip my hat to you my friend I like the positivity, perhaps I was being a bit harsh because of all the anti-Phyla over-reaction in other threads. I hope you guys get what you want. All I wanna do is read great Marvel stories if those include Wendell then bring it on.

I agree with you. The Marvel cosmic U has plenty of room out there for lots of well told stories, both Wendell and Phyla and even the two of them sharing the role of Quasar. I actually think it would be cool for them to be joined by the Quantum and Nega bands with one protecting the Negative Zone with the Nega bands while the other covers the positive matter universe with the Quantum bands - at least for a little while. This way you unite all of the back stories covering the Captain Marvel family and Quasar history.

[christosgage]

Hey guys,

Want to spend the better part of an hour haranguing me to bring back Wendell? And make poor Mike Perkins listen? Here's your chance! To benefit the Hero Initiative, there is an auction for lunch and a piece of original Union Jack art (by Mike, not me) on ebay right now. So if you're going to Wizard World LA (I'm looking at you, Mysterio's Helmet) bid now!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Win-Lunch-With-Mike-Perkins-and-Christos-Gage-at-WW-LA_W0QQitemZ300091058650QQcategoryZ64QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's for a good cause!

Thanks,

CNG

[TCJohnson]

I am giving you an A for your sense of humor.

I am giving you an F for bringing along Mike Perkin as a body guard against Quasar fans. Weak dude, weak. ;)

[StoneGold]

I'm trying to think, is it possible to spell HEAT with a Q?

[StoneGold]

Hey guys,

Want to spend the better part of an hour haranguing me to bring back Wendell? And make poor Mike Perkins listen? Here's your chance! To benefit the Hero Initiative, there is an auction for lunch and a piece of original Union Jack art (by Mike, not me) on ebay right now. So if you're going to Wizard World LA (I'm looking at you, Mysterio's Helmet) bid now!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Win-Lunch-With-Mike-Perkins-and-Christos-Gage-at-WW-LA_W0QQitemZ300091058650QQcategoryZ64QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's for a good cause!

Thanks,

CNG

I'm not sure I can bid. I'm volunteering for the HI on Saturday. In fact, if Janine took my suggestion, you'll be dining at the fabulous Original Pantry, a Los Angeles landmark since 1924!


But I can bug you about it before then. Because HEAT jokes aside, it makes me a sad panda. Which is odd, because I actually do think Wendell's character would have to be played around with a bit to be financially viable. It has to be difficult to work with a character whose defining personality trait is that he is passive enough that his weapons won't blow him up.

[wallred]

Don't get too excited, we have you marked down as the fall guy if things turn sour.

Hey I always supported Quasar. I bought everything I could find involving Quasar, including lots of original art. In fact I think I went up against Wallred several times on eBay. Unfortunately I just found this forum right around Annihilation otherwise I would have spoken up sooner.

Also I think most Quasar fans got excited when Andy asked if we would be interested in a Quasar comic. Obviously there was overwhelming support for that so then killing him off may have perturbed a few fans.

Well even a small, vocal movement is better than doing nothing now isn't it? You whined earlier that most comic fans just piss and moan, we are actually doing something. Personally I will feel better just knowing that I made an honest effort, even if it fails. That is better than just busting other people's stones.

If you read my earlier post I already said I would pick up the Phyla series since I enjoy the Marvel cosmic U. And like I also said earlier, Wendell/Quasar may not be able to support an ongoing solo series but if Marvel knows there is sustained interest in the character they may just bring him back in some capacity.

After all he probably has more die-hard fans than other cosmic characters like Firelord, Stardust, Nebula, etc. So if there is a place for them in the Marvel U then there is a place for Wendell as Quasar, especially if they give him a Ronan-like makeover.

Another Quasar art collector...woohoo!
I love looking at the original pages...do you have yours displayed anywhere on the web. If not, Comic Art Fans (http://comicartfans.com/) is a good free place to do it.
As for supporting Quasar, I'm with you. I've been buying any appearance, reprint or otherwise that he's appeared in since the cancellation of his series. Heck, I've even picked up the Quasar HeroClix. What I really want is a Bowen Mini-Bust and a Marvel Legends figure. Kind of disheartening to see what characters already have both, but still no Wendell.

[wallred]

Hey guys,

Want to spend the better part of an hour haranguing me to bring back Wendell? And make poor Mike Perkins listen? Here's your chance! To benefit the Hero Initiative, there is an auction for lunch and a piece of original Union Jack art (by Mike, not me) on ebay right now. So if you're going to Wizard World LA (I'm looking at you, Mysterio's Helmet) bid now!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Win-Lunch-With-Mike-Perkins-and-Christos-Gage-at-WW-LA_W0QQitemZ300091058650QQcategoryZ64QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's for a good cause!

Thanks,

CNG


If I were going to be anywhere near LA...sadly, Arkansas isn't exactly close to anything (except home, of course).
Seriously, sitting and talking comics and writing with you and Mike sounds like a great way to spend an hour.
Good luck to the bidders.
Oh, and whoever wins, bug Christos a little for us Quasar fans. ;)

[danteipp]

Another Quasar art collector...woohoo!
I love looking at the original pages...do you have yours displayed anywhere on the web. If not, Comic Art Fans (http://comicartfans.com/) is a good free place to do it.
As for supporting Quasar, I'm with you. I've been buying any appearance, reprint or otherwise that he's appeared in since the cancellation of his series. Heck, I've even picked up the Quasar HeroClix. What I really want is a Bowen Mini-Bust and a Marvel Legends figure. Kind of disheartening to see what characters already have both, but still no Wendell.

I don't have them displayed yet, perhaps down the line though, but I appreciate the information and link to do so. I agree with you that there are some very nice pages in that original run. In my collection the crown jewel is the cover to issue No. 39, which features Quasar battling Deathurge with Thanos grinning in the background.

[wallred]

I don't have them displayed yet, perhaps down the line though, but I appreciate the information and link to do so. I agree with you that there are some very nice pages in that original run. In my collection the crown jewel is the cover to issue No. 39, which features Quasar battling Deathurge with Thanos grinning in the background.

#39!?!
That's freakin' awesome!
.
.
.
Sorry about that.
That really is a beautiful cover.
I think it's stronger than the cover to #40 or #16 (Lightle's only other 2). Of course, I still love my cover to #40, but I think you snagged the best of Lightle's.
I wish I could find the cover to #32. That is, bar none, my absolute favorite cover of all time. Capullo and Candelario have Wendell facing down the Imperial Guard, and he doesn't look scared or intimidated. He just looks determined. He has a job to do, and he's going to do it.
Man, I wish they'd issue an essential Quasar and do color trades on Journey Into Mystery, Cosmos (+ 18, 26 and 27), and then 28-40. OK, basically I'd love to have some sturdy trades of Quasar #'s 13-40. The series just hit on all cylinders during those 28 issues. Of course, they might as well throw in a trade of the first 12...

[Mysterio's Helmet]

Hey guys,

Want to spend the better part of an hour haranguing me to bring back Wendell? And make poor Mike Perkins listen? Here's your chance! To benefit the Hero Initiative, there is an auction for lunch and a piece of original Union Jack art (by Mike, not me) on ebay right now. So if you're going to Wizard World LA (I'm looking at you, Mysterio's Helmet) bid now!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Win-Lunch-With-Mike-Perkins-and-Christos-Gage-at-WW-LA_W0QQitemZ300091058650QQcategoryZ64QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

It's for a good cause!

Thanks,

CNG
Dude. If I win, then I'll need a receipt. It's a tax write-off!!!!! :D

Otherwise, yeah I'll see you cats one way or another this weekend. Keep up the solid work.

[astronato]

I'm not ready to storm the palace gates or anything but I do think it was pretty tacky (DC like) to kill of Wendell only to turn around and have a new person go by his codename.

I'll be skipping the new Quasar mini for sure and perhaps skip all of Annihilation:Conquest as it doesn't appeal to me like the first one did. Letters are good, I am sure. But non support of the product would make Marvel take notice. The Wendell fans seemed like the loudest supporters of the Annihilation books the first go round. Maybe this time you should let someone else do the cheerleading. Or just do all your discussing of the event in this thread and no others so that Quasar Returns Headquarters remains at the top of the thread pile.

I could cut up some Quasar sigs if anyone likes.

Anyway, good luck.

[StoneGold]

I'm not ready to storm the palace gates or anything but I do think it was pretty tacky (DC like) to kill of Wendell only to turn around and have a new person go by his codename.

I'll be skipping the new Quasar mini for sure and perhaps skip all of Annihilation:Conquest as it doesn't appeal to me like the first one did. Letters are good, I am sure. But non support of the product would make Marvel take notice. The Wendell fans seemed like the loudest supporters of the Annihilation books the first go round. Maybe this time you should let someone else do the cheerleading. Or just do all your discussing of the event in this thread and no others so that Quasar Returns Headquarters remains at the top of the thread pile.

I could cut up some Quasar sigs if anyone likes.

Anyway, good luck.
The problem with the non-buying thing, all that does is show Marvel that cosmic doesn't sell, so why should they bother bringing Quase back to life, anyways? Just another character they aren't going to use.

[Quasar's Bands]

Wait for it....wait for it.....

EXACTLY. You buy NOTHING it says that you don't like the cosmic line. ON the other hand, you buy the first issue, and it says "there WAS an audience" but by the 3rd issue if you no longer buy it says "the people who would normally buy were displeased for some reason, hmmmmm, what could that be?" See - just not buying anything defeats the message.

[nova64]

I do think it was pretty tacky (DC like) to kill of Wendell only to turn around and have a new person go by his codename.

You mean like Marvel killing off Marvel Boy (Robert Grayson) and giving the quantum bands to a new Marvel Boy named Wendell?

The Wendell fans seemed like the loudest supporters of the Annihilation books the first go round. Maybe this time you should let someone else do the cheerleading.

I think the Nova fans shook their pom-poms just as high for Annihilation. I know I'll be giving Annihilation: Conquest (and the new Quasar) a try.

[astronato]

You mean like Marvel killing off Marvel Boy (Robert Grayson) and giving the quantum bands to a new Marvel Boy named Wendell?



I think the Nova fans shook their pom-poms just as high for Annihilation. I know I'll be giving Annihilation: Conquest (and the new Quasar) a try.


Yeah, you got me there :) I didn't think he used the Marvel Boy name. But a quick check of Wiki proves me wrong. Sorry.

But if they had replaced Nova would you be as into Annihilation this time around?

And I'll probablly be getting the rest of the series. But as for the need to show them that there is an audience for the cosmic stuff, I think fans already did that with the first Annihilation.

[nova64]

Yeah, you got me there :) I didn't think he used the Marvel Boy name. But a quick check of Wiki proves me wrong. Sorry.

But if they had replaced Nova would you be as into Annihilation this time around?

That's an extremely good question. I have to be completely honest and say I would be hesitant. But I wouldn't refuse to buy it simply because Rich wasn't Nova. Ultimately, it would depend on who replaced him. If it had been Peter Quill as the new Nova, I would have been very interested in it and would have been a cheerleader for Conquest if it were good. If it had been Cammi, my first instinct would be to set my pom-poms on fire and pee on the ashes.

But would I still pick it up? Yes because the concept of Nova, the WorldMind and the Nova Force are intriguing enough to me that I'd want to see what was done with it.

And I hope I haven't given the impression that I don't like Wendell! I like him a lot actually and I apologize if I seemed otherwise. A very good soul and a truly admirable hero. Besides, Rich Rider liked him. That's good enough for me! :)

Doug

[Enigmanaut]

Wendell's on the Cover of Avengers Classic (http://images.comicbookresources.com/cons/wizworldla2007/marvel/mondo/av-classic.jpg). Upper right corner.

[Satyrquaze]

I also note that Genis, who was never a part of any official Avengers line-up, is much more prominately displayed.

[wallred]

I also note that Genis, who was never a part of any official Avengers line-up, is much more prominately displayed.

I thought that was weird, too.
You'd think that Wendell would at least get featured as an Avenger on an Avenger only cover over a non-Avenger (of course, there shouldn't be any non-Avengers on the cover), but he's off in the background again.
The cover looks great, though.
I just that would have been Wendell right smack in the middle as opposed to Genis who isn't even an Avenger.

[Silver Nimbus]

I thought that was weird, too.
You'd think that Wendell would at least get featured as an Avenger on an Avenger only cover over a non-Avenger (of course, there shouldn't be any non-Avengers on the cover), but he's off in the background again.
The cover looks great, though.
I just that would have been Wendell right smack in the middle as opposed to Genis who isn't even an Avenger.

I think they're counting his role in Avengers Forever as his having been an "Avenger". Of course, by that token the Guardians of the Galaxy should be on there as well. It was a poor decision in my opinion.

[thorionthei]

I was a Quasar fan. :( I know it's a rip off of DC Green Lantern's but I wouldn't mind seeing a team with quantum bands. Wendell, Genis, Phyla, Mar-Vell, Robert Grayson, etc. Maybe a Skrull and Shair as well. Protectors of the Universe sound catchy. ;)

[Shonzi]

It's awesome to see as many people obsessed with Wendell as me. I always tell people that my favorite superhero is Quasar and they look at me strange.

I bought the Nova series just to see Quasar, as well as the FF:Storm Rising series. When I was in san diego last year for comic con i kept getting sketches of Quasar. I've got an awesome J. Califorie sketch of him in my office.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand. Going back to Christo's post, seriously, the best bet in getting wendell back is having a talanted writer who wants to bring him back and has a good idea for it. I think we really lucked out in getting Christos on the new series, just having him acknowledge the cause shows that there is an in.

As was mentioned earlier in the thread, I kind of like the idea of wendell and phyla having to share the bands. Maybe with Wendell in the quantam zone giving Phyla advice and trying to break back into reality. Anyway, if Wendell can come back from ultimate nullification he can come back from stupid annihulus doing some stupid crap that Wendell has handled before.

[Mr. Bowflex]

It's awesome to see as many people obsessed with Wendell as me. I always tell people that my favorite superhero is Quasar and they look at me strange.

I bought the Nova series just to see Quasar, as well as the FF:Storm Rising series. When I was in san diego last year for comic con i kept getting sketches of Quasar. I've got an awesome J. Califorie sketch of him in my office.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand. Going back to Christo's post, seriously, the best bet in getting wendell back is having a talanted writer who wants to bring him back and has a good idea for it. I think we really lucked out in getting Christos on the new series, just having him acknowledge the cause shows that there is an in.

As was mentioned earlier in the thread, I kind of like the idea of wendell and phyla having to share the bands. Maybe with Wendell in the quantam zone giving Phyla advice and trying to break back into reality. Anyway, if Wendell can come back from ultimate nullification he can come back from stupid annihulus doing some stupid crap that Wendell has handled before.

Welcome aboard!

If possible, could you please post some of the sketches? I'm sure other people (I know I would) would love to see other artist's renderings of our favorite hero!

[Mysterio's Helmet]

I want to know who's mailed off those letters!?


I have!

And I talked to Andy at WWLA for about oh 2 minutes. Good guy. Best intentions and honestly, he's not against Wendell being back. He wants Phylla around, too.

When it comes to brass tax: He wants us happy with great stories. And that means Wendell stories, too.

Now let's just hope that Rosemann does, too! ;)

And I'll try and add the George Perez Wendell (Quasar) headshot I have. It's absolutely fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mysterio's Helmet]

Wanted to post to check out FF #544. None other than Epoch is in it! PotU stuff involved. And yes, from a non-educated guess, it's going to be Gravity, back from the dead.

However, where does that leave Phylla and the Q-bands? That tidbit I find just a bit interesting.

[drwho]

For anyone interested Epoch appears in the comic Fantastic Four and she is a hell of a lot uglier than her father ever was. Her cuteness went out the window.

[DoctorDoom]

Freakiin sweet! Thanks FF!

[Enigmanaut]

If Eppy has the power to return Gravity to life for him to be the PotU, then why can't she return Wendell? Is it because Gravity has a body while Wenny vaporized? Seems strange to resurrect one dead Wisconsoner when another dead Wisconsoner already has a proven track record.

[Expletive Deleted]

The in-story reason is probably something like that, the condition of the body and so on.

The out-of-story reason is probably more along the lines of Marvel not wanting to torpedo the new Quasar before CONQUEST even gets going.

[Quasar's Bands]

You know, I'm happy about this particular decision. One man simply can't protect the whole universe. It's unrealistic. It looks like Nova is doing a pretty good job of going from planet to planet in his own series, and Phyla will certainly be helping the Kree, and if Gravity takes up this role - well, OK - let him face the same problems that Wendell did. Personally, I think this goes to show why there should be a group of folks out there, each "policing" sectors -the Green Lantern Corps idea makes sense. Inevitably, I believe Wendell will return. I hope that doesn't mean Phyla is gone, or Gravity, or Nova - I think it makes sense that all of these characters become a "de facto" universe-protecting group. If Wendell is IN CHARGE of that eventually, great. He has much more experience at the moment than Gravity. But for now - until Marvel sees the light, let Gravity have a brief moment in the spotlight.

In the meanwhile, check out the forum at Quantum Zone - it's a great place for Wendell fans to dream and collaberate.

[christosgage]

I want to know who's mailed off those letters!?


I have!

And I talked to Andy at WWLA for about oh 2 minutes. Good guy. Best intentions and honestly, he's not against Wendell being back. He wants Phylla around, too.

When it comes to brass tax: He wants us happy with great stories. And that means Wendell stories, too.

Now let's just hope that Rosemann does, too! ;)

Bill isn't one to spend a lot of time on the internets, but I met him in person for the first time at NYCC and there is no more enthusiastic fan of Marvel characters than him. He loves them all, Wendell included, and he and I have heard you. Several nice folks came up to me at WWLA and very politely said they want Wendell back, and I heard that too. What that means for Wendell remains to be seen. The best thing you can do is exactly what Dave says -- polite letters and conversations with the editors and creators, and above all, vote with your wallet to show there is a market for the cosmic books. Joe Q has frankly and honestly admitted he never was a fan of those characters as a reader, but as EIC he open-mindedly let Andy run with them, and it sold well, and he's enthusiastically pushing the continuation of that side of the Marvel U. As long as it continues to sell, anything is possible. What makes Marvel exciting right now is that the only status quo is change. So keep the faith, stay engaged and I hope you enjoy the ride!

I'm out...lots of work to do. Take care.

CNG

[TCJohnson]

Bill isn't one to spend a lot of time on the internets, but I met him in person for the first time at NYCC and there is no more enthusiastic fan of Marvel characters than him.

But I heard Andy Schmidt was the most enthusiastic fan.

I think they need to settle this with a knife fight.

[Verminous]

But I heard Andy Schmidt was the most enthusiastic fan.

I think they need to settle this with a knife fight.

A monkey knife fight!! *STAB*STAB* "not my capuchin"

[Cosmic Book Fan]

Ahh, the simple pleasure of a monkey knife fight.

[Verminous]

Ahh, the simple pleasure of a monkey knife fight.

....but the potty training is such a chore:o

[Enigmanaut]

A couple things.

1.) With Wendell in the land of the dead, and Phyla bogarting the name Quasar... can anyone tell me why Wendell is one of the 142 "registered" heroes on the cover of Avengers: The Initiative #1, and identified as Quasar on the official map of characters? S'up with that.

2.) Given what's going on with Eppy and Gravity in the pages of FF right now, I find it interesting that, looking back, Wendell appears in the final issue of the Gravity miniseries... just in the backround of a single panel on page 21, but it almost seems like Wendell and Greg are connected somehow. Even down to their being from fairly close home towns.

[Expletive Deleted]

1.) With Wendell in the land of the dead, and Phyla bogarting the name Quasar... can anyone tell me why Wendell is one of the 142 "registered" heroes on the cover of Avengers: The Initiative #1, and identified as Quasar on the official map of characters? S'up with that.He's listed as registered? Seriously?

I guess it could be because of his former Agent of Shield status and because the SHRA folks wouldn't know that he's dead, but that's still kind of silly.

[wallred]

A couple things.

1.) With Wendell in the land of the dead, and Phyla bogarting the name Quasar... can anyone tell me why Wendell is one of the 142 "registered" heroes on the cover of Avengers: The Initiative #1, and identified as Quasar on the official map of characters? S'up with that.

2.) Given what's going on with Eppy and Gravity in the pages of FF right now, I find it interesting that, looking back, Wendell appears in the final issue of the Gravity miniseries... just in the backround of a single panel on page 21, but it almost seems like Wendell and Greg are connected somehow. Even down to their being from fairly close home towns.

That is kind of strange, but it does kind of make sense. Wendell has traditionally only appeared recently when a writer or an artist needs bodies for a story.
Do you have a link to the official map of characters?
Looks like I need to add a couple of things to Quasar's Log on the Quantum Zone.
Was Gravity any good (just curios since I'll be picking it up for the Quasar appearance)?

[wallred]

Thought it might be a good idea to post the names and addresses of the people we need to send those letters to (according to Andy)...

Bill Rosemann (Editor)
c/o Marvel Entertainment, Inc.
417 5th. Avenue
New York, NY 10016

David Gabriel (VP of Sales)
c/o Marvel Entertainment, Inc.
417 5th. Avenue
New York, NY 10016

Joe Quesada (Editor-in-Chief)
c/o Marvel Entertainment, Inc.
417 5th. Avenue
New York, NY 10016

Dan Buckley (Publisher)
c/o Marvel Entertainment, Inc.
417 5th. Avenue
New York, NY 10016

Remember, keep the letters polite, positive, and upbeat.

[astronato]

Not to take traffic away from CBR but if someone wants to start a return Wendell thread over at Newsarama, I'll do my best to keep it going by asking lots of dumb questions. ;)

[Enigmanaut]

That is kind of strange, but it does kind of make sense. Wendell has traditionally only appeared recently when a writer or an artist needs bodies for a story.
Do you have a link to the official map of characters?
Looks like I need to add a couple of things to Quasar's Log on the Quantum Zone.
Was Gravity any good (just curios since I'll be picking it up for the Quasar appearance)?

Whoops... thought I included the link, but I've got a bad case of Imadoofus going on right now. It's cool, though. I'm on my meds.

Here's the link to the Initiative Map. (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.947) I have to say that he looks a little angry to be Wendell. Guess I'd be angry if I were killed and someone took my bands and my name and everyone thought that was cool just because she's hot.

Gravity was ok. It was really a youthfull book, though.

[wallred]

Whoops... thought I included the link, but I've got a bad case of Imadoofus going on right now. It's cool, though. I'm on my meds.

Here's the link to the Initiative Map. (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.947) I have to say that he looks a little angry to be Wendell. Guess I'd be angry if I were killed and someone took my bands and my name and everyone thought that was cool just because she's hot.

Gravity was ok. It was really a youthfull book, though.

Yeah, I'd probably be a little miffed, too.
Thanks for the Gravity info and the Initiative link.

[wallred]

We're slowly getting things going over on the Quantum Zone Forum (http://quantumzone.org/forum/) for our Quasar campaign.
It's not our intent to dictate story terms to Marvel.
We're not comic creators, but we do know what we'd like to purchase.
What we'd like to see is the original Quasar series reprinted. Quasar could easily fill 3 Essential volumes, and certain storylines (Journey Into Mystery and Cosmos In Collision, for instance) simply cry out to be collected into trade paperbacks.
It is our hope that once Marvel sees that there is a market for this character that they will strive to fill it with new adventures of Wendell.
This is end toward which we will be directing our energies.

Now, I've announced this over on the Quantum Zone Forum (http://quantumzone.org/forum/), but I figure I'll announce it here, too.

Marcus Sarzalejo has agreed to help us out in our campaign. For those of you who don't know who Marcus is, he's the man behind each and every one of those successful Save Spider-Girl campaigns. In my humble opinion, he is The MAN!

So, if you're a Quasar fan, come on over and join in the Quasar discussion.
Also, feel free to spread the word. Let's generate some buzz.

[christosgage]

A couple things.

1.) With Wendell in the land of the dead, and Phyla bogarting the name Quasar... can anyone tell me why Wendell is one of the 142 "registered" heroes on the cover of Avengers: The Initiative #1, and identified as Quasar on the official map of characters? S'up with that.


The registration rolls would probably include people who were already registered as agents of SHIELD, Project Pegasus, etc., like Wendell. It was pointed out somewhere during Civil War that an irony of Cap leading the resistance was the fact that he was already registered (before there was even a registration act). I doubt Earth's organizations know of Wendell's fate, since they don't even seem to know about the Annihilation War yet.

[Enigmanaut]

The registration rolls would probably include people who were already registered as agents of SHIELD, Project Pegasus, etc., like Wendell. It was pointed out somewhere during Civil War that an irony of Cap leading the resistance was the fact that he was already registered (before there was even a registration act). I doubt Earth's organizations know of Wendell's fate, since they don't even seem to know about the Annihilation War yet.

Yeah, I kind of figured it would be along those lines. There's no reason Tony would know of Wendell's fate I s'pose. I wonder if he'll know after Nova visits.

[Quasar's Bands]

Oh yeah, with regard to the Quasar Forum in Quantumzone.org, check out the fan fiction section! There's an ongoing story about Phyla and Moondragon on the hunt for Wendell. It tries to guess where Phyla and Moony are AFTER the miniseries, so that it doesn't conflict with the miniseries. Also, it brings in Epoch, the White Room, Galakander, and other things from the old series - but "tweaks" those ideas to move the plot forward.

[stingerman]

Yeah thats right. It was a SKRULL that died! So there. The Skrulls somehow managed to take the Q-Bands and they have Wendell holed up somewhere!

[wallred]

Yeah thats right. It was a SKRULL that died! So there. The Skrulls somehow managed to take the Q-Bands and they have Wendell holed up somewhere!

That would certainly explain how poorly he did against Annihilus.
Skrulls, not just for dodgy resurrections. Now for stupid deaths, too.
They also have scrubbing bubbles.
Actually, I think it was a Skrull impersonating the Space Phantom pretending to be the clone that replaced Wendell. ;)

[Kyle_Ion]

I think Wendell will come back and take back the quantum bands and the title protector of the universe and get his own ongoing series.

[DaeJi]

I think he comes back but gets a new set of powers and new mission (he may or may not take back the Quasar name); maybe something Kirby-like!

[firstnovaprime]

OK! I'm happy for the Wendell fans! But where does that leave him? Without the bands he has no powers! Marvel has give them and his name to Phylla, which I didn't mind, just get rid of Moondragon. Does this mean he gets new
powers and new name? Or just sits in limbo?

[Kyle_Ion]

I think he comes back but gets a new set of powers and new mission (he may or may not take back the Quasar name); maybe something Kirby-like!

Yeah he could come back as the Avatar of Infinity like he used to be for a short while in his own series. If not then I want him to get the quantum bands back along with the title of protector of the universe and take the name quasar back as well.

[K Von Doom]

The Starbrand will probably bring him back, if anyone remembers he still had a bit of it.

[DaeJi]

I thought the Starbrand died with Ereshkigal?

[Kyle_Ion]

The Starbrand will probably bring him back, if anyone remembers he still had a bit of it.


The starbrand, yeah now that I think about it he still has the starbrand. If I remember didn't it extend his life to several thousand years and made it where he doesn't need to eat or sleep. (Could someone who knows more about Wendell Vaughn correct this if its wrong).

[Expletive Deleted]

The Starbrand will probably bring him back, if anyone remembers he still had a bit of it.Does he?

If I recall correctly, he only retained a limited amount of Starbrand power after he transferred it to Kayla. And that remnant was exhausted just before he regained his Quantum Bands. The whole thing with Thunderstrike, Origin, and the ersatz Contemplator.

This isn't to say that the Starbrand couldn't be the gimmick that brings him back, just that it would have to be an implicit retcon.

EDIT: The Appendix (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/starbd.htm) backs me up on this.

[Kyle_Ion]

Well I suppose if he comes back, he can come back as the avatar of infinity and have his own powers.

[wallred]

Does he?

If I recall correctly, he only retained a limited amount of Starbrand power after he transferred it to Kayla. And that remnant was exhausted just before he regained his Quantum Bands. The whole thing with Thunderstrike, Origin, and the ersatz Contemplator.

This isn't to say that the Starbrand couldn't be the gimmick that brings him back, just that it would have to be an implicit retcon.

EDIT: The Appendix (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/starbd.htm) backs me up on this.

Sorry, but the appendix is wrong. In Quasar #58, The Living Tribunal says to Wendell...

"The portion left in you is so minute it would take a being with my perceptions to detect it"

So a tiny portion remains.
And tiny portion is enough to give us Wendell fans some hope.
As to Phylla, she doesn't need the Bands or the title. She has the Nega Bands and her natural powers.

[Expletive Deleted]

So a tiny portion remains.Okay. It's been a long time since I've read STARBLAST.

Still, wasn't he asphyxiating when the Starbrand ran down to said infinitesimal level, only to be saved by the Quantum Bands? If it can't save him from that . . .

EDIT: By the way, I should point out that I'm pro-retcon, here. Bringing Wendell back is going to require at least some degree of retroactive continuity, even if it is built on an existing plot point. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I tend to think it's preferable, even. It's cleaner and more accessible than going full-on arcane, continuity-wise.

[StoneGold]

Okay. It's been a long time since I've read STARBLAST.

Still, wasn't he asphyxiating when the Starbrand ran down to said infinitesimal level, only to be saved by the Quantum Bands? If it can't save him from that . . .

EDIT: By the way, I should point out that I'm pro-retcon, here. Bringing Wendell back is going to require at least some degree of retroactive continuity, even if it is built on an existing plot point. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I tend to think it's preferable, even. It's cleaner and more accessible than going full-on arcane, continuity-wise.
Not really. Quasar was converted into energy and absorbed, right? You telling me you can't think of a way to resurrect him from that? A guy who has come back from being Ultimately Nullified?

[Cthulhudrew]

The thing that I always found stupid about the Star Brand was that, from the Old Man's description, once you get rid of it, you still retain 10% of its power- 10% of infinity, is exactly how he describes it.

Which means that the user is still left with infinity, by my calculations. So you can never really get rid of it, frankly.

[wallred]

Okay. It's been a long time since I've read STARBLAST.

Still, wasn't he asphyxiating when the Starbrand ran down to said infinitesimal level, only to be saved by the Quantum Bands? If it can't save him from that . . .

EDIT: By the way, I should point out that I'm pro-retcon, here. Bringing Wendell back is going to require at least some degree of retroactive continuity, even if it is built on an existing plot point. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I tend to think it's preferable, even. It's cleaner and more accessible than going full-on arcane, continuity-wise.

You're right, the power of the Brand was flat-lining and couldn't keep him alive in a vacuum. I have a theory about that, though. In the Marvel Universe, the Star Brand worked differently. However, even if you got rid of it, it seemed to replinish itself. So who's to say that hasn't grown since Wendell hasn't been using it? Just a fan theory, but it seems to fit the various situations with the Brand.

[PatchMadripoor]

Yeah thats right. It was a SKRULL that died! So there. The Skrulls somehow managed to take the Q-Bands and they have Wendell holed up somewhere!

Uhm, for those of us not in the know, where is this information coming from?

[OzBat!]

Exactly. For my vote, that fragment has been rebuilding for quite some time and he'll be back.

[Kyle_Ion]

I sure hope that they bring Wendell back and return the title of protector of the universe and the quantum bands back to there former owner.

[Expletive Deleted]

Quasar was converted into energy and absorbed, right?It's an ambiguous panel, but he was flat-out disintegrated. I'm relatively sure Andy confirmed that.

It'd be very, very easy to have it go that way, though.

[aniscape]

It's an ambiguous panel, but he was flat-out disintegrated. I'm relatively sure Andy confirmed that.

It'd be very, very easy to have it go that way, though.

This is my favorite picture of Quasar...no seriously...gave me a clear impression of what Marvel thinks of this property!!!
:evilangry

http://uatu.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/quasar%20death.jpg

[DaeJi]

Wouldn't that picture be a clear impression of what Marvel thinks of Wendell, since the Quasar property is still going with Phyla?

[EnDwiGast]

Yeah he could come back as the Avatar of Infinity like he used to be for a short while in his own series. If not then I want him to get the quantum bands back along with the title of protector of the universe and take the name quasar back as well.


If Mar-Vell's stay in the current Marvel U is going to be temporary, then I'd like Wendell to become the new Captain marvel. (Gravity would be ok too) (or he can reclaim Quasar and have Phyla become the new X-23, Spider-Girl -- or better yet Legacy ***for various reasons :evilsmile )

[aniscape]

Wouldn't that picture be a clear impression of what Marvel thinks of Wendell, since the Quasar property is still going with Phyla?

That's only if you think that Phyla should truly be Quasar ;)

I thiink after Conquest Phyla should find her own place in the universe and celebrate that with a new name for herself. One combining both legacies and her own uniqueness.

Wendell will always be the hero known as Quasar to me. As I mentioned in another thread I don't think Phyla should give up her Quantum Bands. She just needs her own Identity. Of course this is up to Marvel and they can do what they wish of course I just hope they can find a way to have both Wendell and Phyla in the same universe. It is big enough for both :)

[Dagger]

I'd love to see Wendell come back as the Star Brand. It's an awesome concept, and I totally would love to see it fleshed out finally.

[wallred]

This is my favorite picture of Quasar...no seriously...gave me a clear impression of what Marvel thinks of this property!!!
:evilangry

http://uatu.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/quasar%20death.jpg

Harsh, but probably true.
Here's how I like to think of Quasar...

http://quantumzone.org/issues/quasar/covers/quasar32.gif

...facing down the entire Imperial Guard, not afraid, not grimacing, just doing his job, protecting life.

[aniscape]

I'd love to see Wendell come back as the Star Brand. It's an awesome concept, and I totally would love to see it fleshed out finally.

If all realities have a Starbrand counterpart the 616 has not gotten it's own. What it does have is a fragment brought over be Wendell. So if they plan on doing something with the Star-Brand (I don't think it should be Wendell) they should introduse the full Marvel 616 version of the Starbrand. If I am not mistaken the Star-Brand exists in all realities.

[aniscape]

Hehe lookie what I found!!

http://darksuperhero.com/archive/quasar_lantern_colors.jpg

[wallred]

Well, here's the latest news...

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/005299800.cfm

On page 2, it has this…

You mentioned the Captain Marvel legacy, and now she’s also got this Quasar legacy to carry on. How large does the legacy of Wendell Vaughn, the original Quasar, loom on this series?

It’s huge. It’s funny, he was a guy who hadn’t been seen in a while. Once in a while we’d see him off in this little space station.

Sure, whenever the Avengers went up into space.

He was a unique character in that he was a nice guy. Some people think that he was kind of boring, a boring blonde white-bread guy, but he was a nice guy during an era when it was cool to be grim and gritty. He was a really a kind of quiet character, but a strong character, and he has a lot of people who really like him. So just like she’s constantly thinking about the previous Captain Marvels, she’s now thinking about the previous Quasar. So she’s got this dual legacy that’s just a huge weight on her shoulders. Really that’s her story, to grapple with these legacies.

Now, I would be remiss if I didn’t ask as a side note: All of the surprising hate mail that Andy Schmidt got from Wendell Vaughn fans, did that leave Marvel with Andy or are you still seeing that?

I think that a lot of the initial outcry has calmed down. I think it’s not a huge number of people, but it’s a passionate group of people. I don’t know if they’re not reading the story and have gone away, but I also think that the more people read Phyla and give her a chance, the more some people are liking her. So depending on how the story goes there might be more outcry or less. We have to tell the best story that we can and we can’t try to make everyone happy. We can’t try and give everyone what they want or what they think that they want. Our goal is to tell a good story and to entertain. We’ll see how that relates to the legacy of Quasar.

Well, it looks like we're not thought of as a large number of people, so we need more letters. If you haven't written a letter to Marvel, please do so now (and remember, keep it positive and polite). Here's the post on the Quantum Zone Forum (http://quantumzone.org/forum/) with address information and the letter I sent in...

Addresses - http://quantumzone.org/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=112#112

Letter - http://quantumzone.org/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&m=145#145

Also, if you read the forum, join up and join the discussion.

[wallred]

Hehe lookie what I found!!


Very cool!
Nice find.

[Michael P]

Not really. Quasar was converted into energy and absorbed, right? You telling me you can't think of a way to resurrect him from that? A guy who has come back from being Ultimately Nullified?

You don't even need the Ultimate Nullifier precedent. The laws of thermodynamics work pretty well themselves.

[DaeJi]

Hehe.. Thanks for the addresses wallred ;).

[Expletive Deleted]

If all realities have a Starbrand counterpart the 616 has not gotten it's own. What it does have is a fragment brought over be Wendell. So if they plan on doing something with the Star-Brand (I don't think it should be Wendell) they should introduse the full Marvel 616 version of the Starbrand. If I am not mistaken the Star-Brand exists in all realities.If I may be permitted a small digression . . . I haaaaaaaate that the New Universe is now a numbered universe. I liked it better when it was completely separate, barring the occasional Gruenwaldian omniversal road trip. Back when the New Universe didn't have a Quantum Zone, the Marvel Universe didn't have a Starbrand, and all was right with the world.

[Dagger]

I vote that when he comes back, he gets a makeover! The mullet must go! And maybe a slight tweak of his costume would work as well!

[DaeJi]

He actually didn't look that bad in Annihilation- Nova. Good costume, nice hair, not a mullet in sight. I was his best look yet (Phyla still looks better).

[wallred]

If I may be permitted a small digression . . . I haaaaaaaate that the New Universe is now a numbered universe. I liked it better when it was completely separate, barring the occasional Gruenwaldian omniversal road trip. Back when the New Universe didn't have a Quantum Zone, the Marvel Universe didn't have a Starbrand, and all was right with the world.

You can say that again. In fact, in the spirit of retroactive continuity, I hereby ignore the retcon that put the New Universe in the multiverse.

[EnDwiGast]

You can say that again. In fact, in the spirit of retroactive continuity, I hereby ignore the retcon that put the New Universe in the multiverse.

Hasn't Newuniversal essentially accomplished this? :D

I know for a die hard fan it doesn't even come close to having a revived new universe that picks up continuity from where it left off -- but at least it helps create more distance from the blending of the universes.

[Expletive Deleted]

Hasn't Newuniversal essentially accomplished this?In the sense that it's effectively the Ultimate New U and has its own number . . . sort of, but not really.

[EnDwiGast]

In the sense that it's effectively the Ultimate New U and has its own number . . . sort of, but not really.

Yeah, i can understand that. :) Thats why in the second part of my post i said


I know for a die hard fan it doesn't even come close to having a revived new universe that picks up continuity from where it left off -- but at least it helps create more distance from the blending of the universes.

[Kyle_Ion]

He actually didn't look that bad in Annihilation- Nova. Good costume, nice hair, not a mullet in sight. I was his best look yet (Phyla still looks better).

I really liked Wendells outfit better than Phyla'vell's outfit, her outfit is nothing special. I do not want Wendell to come back as captain marvel, if anyone should be captain marvel it should be either "Mar'vell again" Genis'vell or Phyla'vell.

[DaeJi]

I really liked Wendells outfit better than Phyla'vell's outfit, her outfit is nothing special. I do not want Wendell to come back as captain marvel, if anyone should be captain marvel it should be either "Mar'vell again" Genis'vell or Phyla'vell.

To each his own (regarding the fashion sense of Phyla vs. Wendell). I don't want Wendell to end up as Captain Marvel either; I think Genis-Vell is the one best suited to the title, since Mar has to go back to the past soon and Phyla doesn't work that well as Captain Marvel.

[EnDwiGast]

Seeing Wendell become the new Captain Marvel was more of a compromise position for me.

I'd rather Wendell come back as Quasar.

[Raker Q.]

Hehe lookie what I found!!

http://darksuperhero.com/archive/quasar_lantern_colors.jpg
interesting pic....isnt the star symbol on his hands that of the Starbrand?.....and the star on his chest is Captain Marvels and he has no cape but otherwise....nice pic

[Kyle_Ion]

figures, it looks like to me they are ignoring us Wendell Vaughn Fans. Its like they expect us to like Phyla'vell as the new Quasar and quite frankly I like Phyla'vell but I don't like her as Quasar and I won't like this mini until they bring back Wendell as Quasar. Of course I will still read the mini, in the hopes that Wendell does come back in the end and retakes the Quantum Bands as the Protector of the Universe or they make it where he comes back with his own powers and a new name. Or they have him come back as the Avatar of Inifinity again like he was in his own series.

[EnDwiGast]

I'm going to have to skip the current mini. If Wendell had gotten the same quality creative team for a mini of his own I'd be really excited about it right now.

But I'm going to have to hold firm with a Quasar boycott until I hear through this board or somewhere else that Wendell Vaughn is back (and he gets his own limited or ongoing series).

[stingerman]

Uhm, for those of us not in the know, where is this information coming from?

Quasar issue #61

[stingerman]

That's only if you think that Phyla should truly be Quasar ;)

I thiink after Conquest Phyla should find her own place in the universe and celebrate that with a new name for herself. One combining both legacies and her own uniqueness.

Wendell will always be the hero known as Quasar to me. As I mentioned in another thread I don't think Phyla should give up her Quantum Bands. She just needs her own Identity. Of course this is up to Marvel and they can do what they wish of course I just hope they can find a way to have both Wendell and Phyla in the same universe. It is big enough for both :)


Yeah, I dont know why they gave Phyla Quasars name. Why didnt she just have her own series as Phyla.....then I would've bought it!

[K Von Doom]

Quasar issue #61

You win the interweb :)

[stingerman]

I'm going to have to skip the current mini. If Wendell had gotten the same quality creative team for a mini of his own I'd be really excited about it right now.

But I'm going to have to hold firm with a Quasar boycott until I hear through this board or somewhere else that Wendell Vaughn is back (and he gets his own limited or ongoing series).

Ditto. I'm not buying it either.

[K Von Doom]

I think the Death of Captain Marvel was handled well, it was a great read and showed respect to the character, so when Wendell stepped in to become Eon's new champion, there wasn't a negative word said about him. The new champion had his own identity and didn't step on the legacy of Captain Marvel.

Quasar's death was a novelty, at best, used as a stepping stone to show how powerful Annihilus had become, even though there was no explanation as to how he got so powerful. It seems the writers went "Hey, let's kill a powerful character to show how much power this new villain has". Creativity at it's best eh.

I'm passing on the book

[EnDwiGast]

Maybe I'm misquoting. If so, my apologies.

But as i remember it, Wendell Vaughn/Quasar fans (specifically) were led to believe they'd be happy about the (then) upcoming Annihilation event.

I can't think of any fans of a character who are happy with the needless death and replacement of the character they are a fan of.

My impression is that Joe Quesada liked the name "Quasar" and wanted to preserve that but attach it to a new personality. As if the personality were more to blame for the ending of his last series than what was, quite frankly at least in my opinion, substandard art. (Though I suppose the standard for art in that era was generally lower than it had been and definitely lower than what it is now)

[K Von Doom]

The art went downhill once Greg Capullo and Andy Smith left the book.

[stingerman]

Thought it might be a good idea to post the names and addresses of the people we need to send those letters to (according to Andy)...

.

Done. I'll post the body of my letter at your site.

[stingerman]

Done. I'll post the body of my letter at your site.

Body of letter: http://quantumzone.org/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=79

[wallred]

Body of letter: http://quantumzone.org/forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=79

Nice letter, and thanks for posting it.

[Mysterio's Helmet]

Nice letter Stingerman! I think all of us Quasar fans seem to find that Wendell was a true hero in the most noble of ways. Very rarely seen in other characters.

At any rate, good to hear from you.

AND PASS THE WORD!!!!! Wendell needs his own limited series, dangnabbitor!

[Blackcat]

That's exactly what I really hate about some fans. They don't like something, they start nagging big time, so they hope Marvel will change thing to the way they want them to be. There are a lot of fans who are very, very happy with Phylla. I really hope Marvel will not be infleueded by this.

A couple of years ago, they took 3 characters of the X-books out of the series because of nagging fans, while those characters had a lot of potential.

Marvel should not listen to fans crying about characters.

[Joe Rice]

I thought she was already back!

[Nobbel]

Phyla rocks big time, she is just awesome.

Yeah I agree, she is sooo cool!

[DaeJi]

That's exactly what I really hate about some fans. They don't like something, they start nagging big time, so they hope Marvel will change thing to the way they want them to be. There are a lot of fans who are very, very happy with Phylla. I really hope Marvel will not be infleueded by this.

A couple of years ago, they took 3 characters of the X-books out of the series because of nagging fans, while those characters had a lot of potential.

Marvel should not listen to fans crying about characters.

I thought she was already back!

Phyla rocks big time, she is just awesome.

Yeah I agree, she is sooo cool!

Hey now, let's not come in here and sore up the Wendell thread. I've asked the Wendell hardcore Phyla bashers to lay off the Phyla tread (and for the most part they) have, so it's only fair to return the favor.

[Satyrquaze]

It's not about hating/boycotting a character for most of us Quasar/Wendell-fans.

I like honestly Phyla, I think she shows a lot of promise. I will say that before Annihilation, when the teasers and such were being featured in various magazines and websites, we were offered a cosmic comic series where our favorite character would have a chance to shine. I was looking forward to a revitalization of the character, seeing him return to the forefront of cosmic events.

What we got was 2 issues where Quasar came off as pretty cool, he was giving inspiring advice to Nova that was ususally given by the likes of Captain America or Supes. He had finally graduated to veteran status; I was proud of him.

Then Quasar was brutally, yet questionably killed by Annihilus. Yeah, he was dead, but there was this ember of hope... especially since He'd come back so many times before.

Then finally in the last pages of Annihilation #6 Phyla claimed the Quantum-bands for herself... destroying any shred of hope of his return in those pages, Nothing against Phyla, but it was like the writers killed Quasar all over again.

So, you'll have to excuse us Quasar/Wendell fans if we seem a bit protective of our interests, but by and large other than a few bad apples, the Wendell fans haven't been overly rabid. Yes, we've made the odd emotional post, but this hasn't degraded to "Hal vs. Kyle" like posts.

Like I said, I like Phyla, I just don't think she needs to be part of Wendell's legacy in order for her to be an interesting character.

I will give Gage kudos in that at least post-humously Quasar gets some respect.

[aniscape]

nicely stated. We just want Wendell to shine is all...

[BooCoo]

Possibly. We could just be a bunch of cranks that won't let this bone go, too. :)

[XPac]

That's exactly what I really hate about some fans. They don't like something, they start nagging big time, so they hope Marvel will change thing to the way they want them to be. There are a lot of fans who are very, very happy with Phylla. I really hope Marvel will not be infleueded by this.

A couple of years ago, they took 3 characters of the X-books out of the series because of nagging fans, while those characters had a lot of potential.

Marvel should not listen to fans crying about characters.

I don't see the problem... if you don't like something, why NOT nag about it? I would think Marvel would LIKE to know how we feel about their product... what we like and what we don't.

Though Marvel shouldn't necessarily do everything any particular set of fans wants, there's no harm at all in voicing your opinon.

Of course, ultimately readers vote with their dollars.... sales will determine what does and does not last. Complaints on internet sites won't necessarily kill or save a book... but nonetheless I do think reader imput has value.

[EnDwiGast]

Hey now, let's not come in here and sore up the Wendell thread. I've asked the Wendell hardcore bashers to lay off the Phyla tread (and for the most part they), so it's only fair to return the favor.


I for one appreciate that.

I've steered clear of the Phyla thread because i believe fans of a particular character should have a place to go and just celebrate and appreciate a character they like. (Not that I've never violated this principle) I don't hate Phyla or wish her dead.

The unfortunate part of all this is that I believe a good number of anti-Phyla or seemingly anti-Phyla people would not have felt that way now and may very well have become enthusiastic supporters of her had she not come at the expense of Wendell Vaughn/Quasar

Now though, we have a complicated mess. Wendell fans who want to see Phyla eliminated so that he can return. Phyla fans who want to see wendell stay dead so that Phyla can live. Then in the more moderate debates - those looking for co-existence who still clash over who has more right to be Quasar and who needs to create a new identity.

If one good thing comes out of this mess, I hope that both Marvel and DC realize that messes like these can be avoided if they restrain themselves from dividing their fan bases by having newcomers take on the mantle of existing characters.

Newcomers can get off to a healthier start if they don't start off with a faction of readers hating them for having come at the expense of their own. Yes, the market has seemed to be unkind to new characters without recognizable names. But the market has become a much uglier place because of substitutions.

Wendell Vaughn/Quasar appeals to those who like the heroic principles of the Golden and Silver Ages. Who feel today's market has become over-saturated by anti-heroes or those with questionable morality.

[Raker Q.]

A couple of years ago, they took 3 characters of the X-books out of the series because of nagging fans, while those characters had a lot of potential.

Which 3 characters were that?.....sorry not big on the X-Books though I've been picking up Astonishing and Uncanny when Bru started.....and now I'm buying the Endagered Species.....so I missed out on who your taking about....

[stingerman]

That's exactly what I really hate about some fans. They don't like something, they start nagging big time, so they hope Marvel will change thing to the way they want them to be. There are a lot of fans who are very, very happy with Phylla. I really hope Marvel will not be infleueded by this.

A couple of years ago, they took 3 characters of the X-books out of the series because of nagging fans, while those characters had a lot of potential.

Marvel should not listen to fans crying about characters.

Marvel shouldnt listen to their fans? WTF!!? If it was your way we would still have the Spider Clone thing going on! Oh wait they're bringing it back....Doh!!

[EnDwiGast]

Which 3 characters were that?.....sorry not big on the X-Books though I've been picking up Astonishing and Uncanny when Bru started.....and now I'm buying the Endagered Species.....so I missed out on who your taking about....

I didn;t read X-Men during that era. but if i had to guess it would be characters like Cecilia Reyes, Maggot and Thunderbird (?)

As for not listening to the fans (Blackcat comment) .... is there any kind of business or successful anything that doesn't listen to its fans? If they don't then its all about profit. But if its all about profit who is going to buy it? If its not about profit then why sell it?

[Raker Q.]

Marvel shouldnt listen to their fans? WTF!!? If it was your way we would still have the Spider Clone thing going on! Oh wait they're bringing it back....Doh!!

you serious?...they are bringing back the clones?....I missed that news.....

[Raker Q.]

I didn;t read X-Men during that era. but if i had to guess it would be characters like Cecilia Reyes, Maggot and Thunderbird (?)


I didnt realize people hated them....I'm reading Thunderbird in the Endangered Species story and also read him in Bru's Fall and Rise of the Shiar....I like him and think hes cool.....dont really know the other two very well though

[EnDwiGast]

I didnt realize people hated them....I'm reading Thunderbird in the Endangered Species story and also read him in Bru's Fall and Rise of the Shiar....I like him and think hes cool.....dont really know the other two very well though

There was some Indian (South asian Indian) character in X-treme X-Men and going by the code name Thunderbird for a short time

EDIT: Found a wiki article on him: http://www.marveldatabase.com/Thunderbird_(Neal_Shaara)

[stingerman]

you serious?...they are bringing back the clones?....I missed that news.....


yeah I remember reading somewhere that they are bringing back ben riley or something. thats how they might go back to spiderman wearing the read and blue and fix his unmasking thing.

[Raker Q.]

There was some Indian (South asian Indian) character in X-treme X-Men and going by the code name Thunderbird for a short time

EDIT: Found a wiki article on him: http://www.marveldatabase.com/Thunderbird_(Neal_Shaara)

cool...thanks for the info...never knew about this guy

[Raker Q.]

yeah I remember reading somewhere that they are bringing back ben riley or something. thats how they might go back to spiderman wearing the read and blue and fix his unmasking thing.
:eek: ........words fail me......

[stingerman]

:eek: ........words fail me......


I'll see if I can find it. I'm not sure if it was online or in a wizard.

[stingerman]

yeah I remember reading somewhere that they are bringing back ben riley or something. thats how they might go back to spiderman wearing the read and blue and fix his unmasking thing.

Here's a link to a website that is trying to bring back Ben Reilly: http://www.freewebs.com/bringbackben/faq.htm

One part of it says: "Marvel Editorial had this in response:

"Thanks for the loyalty, Scott, and we're glad you dug the Ben Reilly reference. Marvel editorial is very aware of the Clone Saga and its fans; why else would there be an Ultimate Clone Saga? And keep your eyes on the regular Marvel U, because there may be more Clone goodness in your future."

[wallred]

Here's a link to a website that is trying to bring back Ben Reilly: http://www.freewebs.com/bringbackben/faq.htm

One part of it says: "Marvel Editorial had this in response:

"Thanks for the loyalty, Scott, and we're glad you dug the Ben Reilly reference. Marvel editorial is very aware of the Clone Saga and its fans; why else would there be an Ultimate Clone Saga? And keep your eyes on the regular Marvel U, because there may be more Clone goodness in your future."

Interesting.
Thanks for the link.

[wallred]

OK, I have a weird question here...did Quasar fight Thanos and the 4 previous Quantum-Band wielders, or not?
If I remember correctly, Nebula undid the everything that Thanos did with the Gauntlet. So, Wendell never fought Thanos, Thanos never created/recreated/whatever the previous wielders, right?
Well, then how do you explain the Marvel Boy clone thingy that shows up later in the series. If it never happened, then how does he exist? The timing on this just seems all wonky.
Anyway, this makes me wonder about the 3 additional pairs of Quantum-Bands that should still be floating around the Quantum Zone. Do they exist?
I'm leaning toward them existing since the Marvel Boy clone thing existed after the Infinity Gauntlet, but it's all kinda screwy.
Basically, this is an out so that us Wendell fans get our Quasar, and Phylla fans can have her with her Bands, and possibly a different name. Is it a valid out, though?

[DaeJi]

Basically, this is an out so that us Wendell fans get our Quasar, and Phylla fans can have her with her Bands, and possibly a different name. Is it a valid out, though?

If that's valid.. damn, that is a good out. Nice call on that.

[aniscape]

Going to go read that issue...be right back :)

[Expletive Deleted]

It's an out, sure. The details of the cosmic reset button in IG were (pardon the pun) extremely nebulous.

I don't think we really need to reach that far back for a workable plot device, though. How many times has the universe been reset, before and since? Any of 'em would do the trick. When it comes to this kind of deus ex machina, I tend to be a less is more kind of guy. The simplest scenario with the least amount of continuity is probably going to be the best option.

[DaeJi]

I don't think we really need to reach that far back for a workable plot device, though. How many times has the universe been reset, before and since? Any of 'em would do the trick.

True; every now and then this does happen: http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF032AD-Reset.jpg#100

Heck, Phyla is the result of a "Reset!" moment.

[wallred]

It's an out, sure. The details of the cosmic reset button in IG were (pardon the pun) extremely nebulous.

I don't think we really need to reach that far back for a workable plot device, though. How many times has the universe been reset, before and since? Any of 'em would do the trick. When it comes to this kind of deus ex machina, I tend to be a less is more kind of guy. The simplest scenario with the least amount of continuity is probably going to be the best option.

I agree...the KISS method is best (Keep It Simple Stupid), but it is a valid way to have 2 pair of Bands, and both Wendell and Phylla.
Personally, I don't want to see Phylla fade away. Comics need strong female characters. Having said that, if Phylla's rapid vaporization is the only way to get Wendell back, then I'm pushing the button myself. :)

[XPac]

If they were to return Wendel, I'm not sure why Phyla would need Quantom Bands when she already has nega bands.

But either way, I suppose there are outs so that both can have Quantom Bands if Marvel for whatever reason feels the need to have 2 characters with the exact same power sets.

[aniscape]

Issue number 27 for Quasar has got to be my favorite issue! Got it makes me miss him even more. When the other protectors blew up the bands could technically still exist in the Quantum Zone...or Blue Marvel still has his on in the white room...

You know what really needs to happen is Origin just needs to redo Phyla and bring back Wendell as Quasar.

After reading that book it just reaffirms why I want Wendell back as Quasar. That was the book that should have leaped him into prime time...and he was getting there but once Greg Capullo left the book Greunwald never got an artist that got Wendell like greg did. The closest would have to be Lightle.

I really miss his monthly mag :(

[aniscape]

If they were to return Wendel, I'm not sure why Phyla would need Quantom Bands when she already has nega bands.

But either way, I suppose there are outs so that both can have Quantom Bands if Marvel for whatever reason feels the need to have 2 characters with the exact same power sets.

I agree...The Quantum Bands are unique...They belong to Wendell...I know I have said as long as they bring back Wendell I wouldn't care what his power set would be but that is not true...Wendell is Quasar Protector of the Goddang Universe Appointed by the late Eon and charged with the protection of Epoch his cosmic Goddaughter!

[DaeJi]

I agree...The Quantum Bands are unique...They belong to Wendell...I know I have said as long as they bring back Wendell I wouldn't care what his power set would be but that is not true...Wendell is Quasar Protector of the Goddang Universe Appointed by the late Eon and charged with the protection of Epoch his cosmic Goddaughter!

Wouldn't dieing void that? Anyway, if there are more Q-Bands then Wendell could take one of those and everyone could be happy on that front.

A question though, do the other Q-Bands have the whole "fry if you lose your cool" thing the original had? Because if not then Phyla could give Wendell back the original pair and take one of the others. But if they do have that feature then I think Wendell should take one of the copies since the fact that the Q-Bands no longer fry you when you lose your cool is keeping Phyla alive.

[aniscape]

Wouldn't dieing void that? Anyway, if there are more Q-Bands then Wendell could take one of those and everyone could be happy on that front.

Quasar is not Green Lantern...I am sorry...as much as I want to say something to make everybody happy I can't. This affects me too personally...and I have explained it enough to go into it again...

the implacations of having multiple bands are just to enormous for me right now that I can't swallow it. Quasar is unique. The more characters out there with the same power set the more diluted things get. One pair of Quantum Bands one unique power set. I can't see it...maybe tomorrow I will but after reading some old Quasar books my emotions are a little high tonight.

[aniscape]

Wouldn't dieing void that? .

No cause Wendell is not dead...he has lost his bands before when he had the power of the starbrand and he got them back...he can do it again!

[DaeJi]

Quasar is not Green Lantern...I am sorry...as much as I want to say something to make everybody happy I can't. This affects me too personally...and I have explained it enough to go into it again...

the implacations of having multiple bands are just to enormous for me right now that I can't swallow it. Quasar is unique. The more characters out there with the same power set the more diluted things get. One pair of Quantum Bands one unique power set. I can't see it...maybe tomorrow I will but after reading some old Quasar books my emotions are a little high tonight.

That's cool mate. Everyone has their own ideas about what should happen; we just have to hope that Marvel can do something that will satisfy everyone.

No cause Wendell is not dead...he has lost his bands before when he had the power of the starbrand and he got them back...he can do it again!

Neat.

[Somebody]

OK, I have a weird question here...did Quasar fight Thanos and the 4 previous Quantum-Band wielders, or not?
If I remember correctly, Nebula undid the everything that Thanos did with the Gauntlet. So, Wendell never fought Thanos, Thanos never created/recreated/whatever the previous wielders, right?
Well, then how do you explain the Marvel Boy clone thingy that shows up later in the series. If it never happened, then how does he exist? The timing on this just seems all wonky.
Anyway, this makes me wonder about the 3 additional pairs of Quantum-Bands that should still be floating around the Quantum Zone. Do they exist?
I'm leaning toward them existing since the Marvel Boy clone thing existed after the Infinity Gauntlet, but it's all kinda screwy.
Basically, this is an out so that us Wendell fans get our Quasar, and Phylla fans can have her with her Bands, and possibly a different name. Is it a valid out, though?

Mentioned (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4475692&postcount=2477) this before (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4992333&postcount=120) :)

Yeah, loophole. Likelihood of them using it...

PS: Nebula didn't undo everything Thanos did with the Gauntlet. She rewound time - with certain exceptions - 24 hours. Thanos had the Gauntlet longer than a day :)

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Mentioned (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4475692&postcount=2477) this before (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=4992333&postcount=120) :)

Yeah, loophole. Likelihood of them using it...

PS: Nebula didn't undo everything Thanos did with the Gauntlet. She rewound time - with certain exceptions - 24 hours. Thanos had the Gauntlet longer than a day :)

That's what I was wondering.
So the fight with Quasar still happened.
Cool.
Quasar #27 is an absolutely beautiful book. Capullo and Williams knocked it out of the park with that one.

[agrich]

That's what I was wondering.
So the fight with Quasar still happened.
Cool.
Quasar #27 is an absolutely beautiful book. Capullo and Williams knocked it out of the park with that one.

Having not read the issue, when was it set?

If it was definitely set before Infinity Gauntlet