First Person Shooters

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I need to expand my first person shooter library.

There is Doom 3, Farcry and Half Life 2.
Games that rocked the world as I know it.

But that was what, 3 years ago?

What PC Shot´em ups appeared in the meantime that rivalled those and why am I not playing them?

Share the wealth, guys, I have some serious catching up to do.

[Thorlief]

nothing rivals those, sadly.
you like online? Get BF2

[Serik]

For online: Battlefield 1942 (enough servers out there) and Team Fortress Classic. The later is my favorite, especially the Dustbowl attack/defend map.

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Wait for Bioshock, Crysis, maybe Hellgate London, Jericho, and maybe Axeley (or whatever it's called).

Okay, just Bioshock and Crysis (IMO).

[DaeJi]

Get Doom. It's old and dated and the graphics suck and there's better out there, but really, get Doom. It's easy to find, cheap, and it the game that put FPS on the map as while as a classic in itself.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I´m not really into online gaming, I prefer the single player experience (don´t kick me!!).

I´m not picky abou graphics either, I mean I still play Return to Castle Wolfenstein from time to time but Doom... that´s really old.

What does BF2 mean?

[Kid Kamikaze10]

I´m not really into online gaming, I prefer the single player experience (don´t kick me!!).

I´m not picky abou graphics either, I mean I still play Return to Castle Wolfenstein from time to time but Doom... that´s really old.

What does BF2 mean?

Battlefield 2, I believe.

[KrymynalChylde]

If you don't like online gaming then the Battlefield series isn't for you. That said however, if ANY game is going to get you into online gaming it will be that particular series. Try it it kicks ass!

And definetly myself waiting on Crysis (not that Im going to be able to afford a NASA level comp to play it) and Bioshock. Given, I'm currently replaying Starcraft so my FPS knowledge of late isn't all the great.

[Young Avenger]

Play F.E.A.R. Preferly the PC version.

[Serik]

The Call of Duty games have fun singleplayer campaigns. Highly recommended for non-stop, highly-scripted, mindless action and Nazi killing.

[StreetFighterRyu]

The Battlefield series, and F.E.A.R.

[Draconomicon]

Hitman - blood money.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I played the first Hitman on the PC.

Controls were hideous, have they improved since?

[Agent Helix]

I'd definitely recommend F.E.A.R., though it's a bit on the short side. There's an expansion out that I haven't tried yet, though. I heard good things about Dark Messiah of Might and Magic from a lot of people, but I haven't given that one a go. Bioshock, released next week, looks like the Next Big Thing™ as far as PC/Console FPS are concerned, and it's got a hell of a pedigree.

[DaeJi]

Aliens vs. Predator 2 is a fun game too, especially playing as the Alien or Predator.

[StreetFighterRyu]

I played the first Hitman on the PC.

Controls were hideous, have they improved since?

Hitman is TPS though.


Aliens vs. Predator 2 is a fun game too, especially playing as the Alien or Predator.

Yeah. I've seen my friend playing it and it looked awsome. I was hoping that they remake it for the PS2 at least because I hate playing FPS in computer.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Hitman is TPS though.

Yeah, I remember.

Did some research in F.E.A.R. and it looks good.

Creepy too, which is definitely a plus.

I just ordered Quake 4 from Amazon, will I regret this day?

[StreetFighterRyu]

Yeah, I remember.

Did some research in F.E.A.R. and it looks good.

Creepy too, which is definitely a plus.

I just ordered Quake 4 from Amazon, will I regret this day?

Well, I didn't like Quake much. I kindof liked it, but not really my choice. It's kinda like Unreal.

[Thorlief]

yes, you will. Quake 4 sucks, at least IMO

[Young Avenger]

I haven't played Quake 4. Stuff I heard about it wasn't very good.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Well, it was a spur of the moment decision, Quake 2 was my very first FPS. :p

F.E.A.R. is next in line but what I am really looking for is just some mindles fun action like Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

I´d like some good visuals but I´m not a graphics whore, anything that doesn´t look like it was programmed in 1998 will do fine.

I checked gametrailers.com and Call of Duty (all of them) seems pretty sweet.

Although... reviewer did say that CoD3 has some collision detection issues (hiding behind obstacles won´t save you from bullets) which is the ultimate no-no for me.

[Thorlief]

COD2 is great, COD 3 funny but like they said, its got some bugs. Fun game anyway

RTCW..man, you shouldnta missed it when it was in its prime (about five years ago). You couldnt have believed how great the single player was, and how INCREDIBLE the online games were
I was a long time user, five years of unstopped online matches because that game was the god of online FPSes

[Draconomicon]

Yeah, I remember.

Did some research in F.E.A.R. and it looks good.

Creepy too, which is definitely a plus.

I just ordered Quake 4 from Amazon, will I regret this day?

Yes, the controls have improved a -lot-.
Also, the missions are fun and there is a storyline that runs through the whole game. You also have a lot more ways to knock people off.

Oh, and yes, you will regret having ordered Quake.
It has some odd 30 or 32 missions, and at mission 21 I was so bored and disappointed with the game that I cheated to the end and just watched the extro... which sucked too.
PREY would have been a better choice, imho

[StreetFighterRyu]

F.E.A.R. is next in line but what I am really looking for is just some mindles fun action like Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

Well, there are the Doom series which was inspired by the game Wolfenstein. Doom 2 has a secret level that takes you to one of their levels actually. It was pretty awsome. But anyway, the Doom series is a good for "mindless fun". lol

[Draconomicon]

Oh, recommendation:

Chronicles of Riddick: Return to Butcher Bay.
This is one of the most impressive and fun FPS games Ive played in the last years. For most of the game you will use stealth and stealth kills, but it offers so much in tactical choices that you wont have much of a problem with that. For example, you can see in the darkness after around 10/15% of the game done, and places are usually light up. NPCs 'cannot' see in the darkness, so you can either shoot the lights out, or find a switch, then sneak up and break their necks/stab them, etc.

Also, Weapons actually -do feel- like weapons. Despite there having been a very small collection of guns (I think 3) they actually feel really powerful, and its awesome to use em.

Stay clear of Doom 3 and Quake 4, imho. Like you Ive started with Wolvenstein 3d, then Doom, Doom 2, quake and quake 2, but both Doom 3 and Quake 4 bored me to tears. Doom 3 tries to be a weak SystemShock like Doom shooter, and fails, imho.

[StreetFighterRyu]

Doom 3 tries to be a weak SystemShock like Doom shooter, and fails, imho.

The pistol was supposed to more powerful. In the other games, it takes only 2 shots to kill a zombie. Here it takes nearly half a clip. It pisses me off. What kind of gun was it anyway? I was half expect it to be a stronger pistol than a PCS. (means piece of s*** btw) I get that they were trying to be more realistic, but they have to almost kill everything. Plus I miss the spikey imps. lol

[zuludelta]

You should try the Rainbow Six games (the PC games, and not the watered-down console versions)... they're not like your typical FPS. Very tactical and very challenging (there's no in-game save, and even with the thickest body armour, you can probably take 3 hits maximum before you're killed), but completing a mission is very satisfying, because you'll have to rely not just on your reflexes, but stealth and pattern observation as well. The game is basically divided into two parts... the first part is mission planning (where you set waypoints on the map for your teams to follow, and set their commands and actions), while the second part is where you play the mission itself (you control one guy, but you can switch characters between teams at any time).

[chromethefetalmirage]

RTCW..man, you shouldnta missed it when it was in its prime (about five years ago). You couldnt have believed how great the single player was, and how INCREDIBLE the online games were
I was a long time user, five years of unstopped online matches because that game was the god of online FPSes

Agreed. I was addicted to online RTCW. Every now and then I'll play. Though it's just not the same.

Not really a fan of single player games so multiplayer wise I would recommend either Counterstrike or Counterstrike Source (I couldn't pick a fav.) and Battlefield 1942 as well as any of its associated mods. And recently I started slowly warming up to Natural Selection.

[Serik]

Natural Selection is great, especially combat mode (though long-time fans insist it ruined the community by bringing in the Counter-Strike "newbs.")

Natural Selection 2 will be even more amazing if the few previews are any indication.

[StreetFighterRyu]

You should try the Rainbow Six games (the PC games, and not the watered-down console versionse)

What's wrong with playing Vegas in the 360? I see it easier than playing it on the PC. I see playing FPS games easier in controllers, than a mouse and keyboard.

[Deep_Sleeper]

I loved the first AvP. My favourite First Person Shooter of all time would HAVE to be the original Unreal Tournament.

When I'm playing FPS...I'm not remotely interested in a story. I just wanna shoot things. Yeah, I suck playing online...but I still have a great time trying to shoot other people.

[P-Man]

What's wrong with playing Vegas in the 360? I see it easier than playing it on the PC. I see playing FPS games easier in controllers, than a mouse and keyboard.

Really? 99% of my game playing is on consoles but I think a controller is nothing compared to the presision of a mouse.

[DaeJi]

Really? 99% of my game playing is on consoles but I think a controller is nothing compared to the presision of a mouse.

Wii Remote rules all. Metroid is looking to a.... blast.... to play :D

[StreetFighterRyu]

Really? 99% of my game playing is on consoles but I think a controller is nothing compared to the presision of a mouse.

Yeah, except with the mouse you'd have to move your mouse a few times to turn around, and sometimes if the mouse is a bit dirty, your aim will be a little off.

[zuludelta]

What's wrong with playing Vegas in the 360? I see it easier than playing it on the PC. I see playing FPS games easier in controllers, than a mouse and keyboard.

My beef about the console Rainbow Six games is that they've pretty much taken out the "tactical-sim" elements of the game and made it more like other FPses. The aiming is more forgiving and they've taken out the whole aspect of commanding multiple squads whilst being immersed in the FPS action. In that sense, the PC Rainbow Six games were unique, it was almost like playing two games at once, on the one hand, you were controlling an individual soldier and the other, you were coordinating the movements and actions of up to 9 other operatives. Rainbow Six Vegas is a very distant relative of the original PC games in terms of gameplay, so much so that I don't think you can reasonably compare them to each other (and Vegas was designed specifically for the next-gen consoles, they never released it for the PC).

[StreetFighterRyu]

I guess that makes sense. Considering I play SWAT 3 for PC and enjoyed it alot.

[asloveislost]

i thought natural selection was pretty damn fun.
hmm for non online game, i dunno Deus Ex, either of them gave me some entertainment.
now im just an online junkie.
:(

[StreetFighterRyu]

i thought natural selection was pretty damn fun.
hmm for non online game, i dunno Deus Ex, either of them gave me some entertainment.
now im just an online junkie.
:(

I guess there's nothing wrong being an online junkie. Playing with human players are alot more fun than playing with computers. Though humans cheat sometimes but even CPU can be cheap.

[Serik]

Yeah, except with the mouse you'd have to move your mouse a few times to turn around, and sometimes if the mouse is a bit dirty, your aim will be a little off.

Ya, if you're using a 1997 track ball mouse that's been submersed in a bucket of grease. If you use a ~$40 laser mouse, you should never have problems when it comes to precision. If you set sensitivity high enough, you'll barely have to move the mouse around the pad.

[zuludelta]

You guys should try out XIII (on PC, PS2, and XBox)... it's based on the Belgian spy thriller comic of the same name. Not very innovative gameplay-wise, but the visuals are a hoot, they look exactly like the comic (http://www.gamershell.com/pc/xiii/screenshots.html).

[StreetFighterRyu]

Ya, if you're using a 1997 track ball mouse that's been submersed in a bucket of grease. If you use a ~$40 laser mouse, you should never have problems when it comes to precision. If you set sensitivity high enough, you'll barely have to move the mouse around the pad.

Yeah, I really need to get the laser mouse. The ball is annoying. My only problem would be the battery. But it's not that big a deal really.


You guys should try out XIII (on PC, PS2, and XBox)... it's based on the Belgian spy thriller comic of the same name. Not very innovative gameplay-wise, but the visuals are a hoot, they look exactly like the comic (http://www.gamershell.com/pc/xiii/screenshots.html).

Seen the trailor, didn't want to try it.

[Serik]

Most gaming mice are corded so battery life isn't as issue. Don't even get me started on how wireless mice suck :D

[StreetFighterRyu]

Most gaming mice are corded so battery life isn't as issue. Don't even get me started on how wireless mice suck :D

Don't need to. My grandpa and friend have one. So I know.:p

[asloveislost]

I guess there's nothing wrong being an online junkie. Playing with human players are alot more fun than playing with computers. Though humans cheat sometimes but even CPU can be cheap.

thats true, thats why i like playing online, except right now im capped and i really wanna play bf2142 but its so laggy so i gotta wait till the end of the month lol.
the only downfall for me. :D

[shawnh]

Some great ones, if you like a little thinking with your blasting, are Deus Ex, Deus Ex:Invisible War, System Shock 2 and, just recently, Bioshock. All of them have RPG elements and give you a lot of freedom in how you approach situations, plus some moral choices in the Deus Ex games. In Invisible War, for example, I was able to clear the whole game without killing a single person, only using nonlethal attacks. Bioshock has incredible graphics, story and setting and is a must own.

I thought Prey was pretty good, too. It has a really unique setting and some new takes on the genre like unlimited lives, but it kinda gets repetitive and it is very on rails as far as the path you are forced down. FEAR is no classic, but it's a fun way to pass the time.

For more traditional games, Red Faction is good, but skip Red Faction II. I have a soft spot, for some reason, for Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force. I don't even like Voyager, and the graphics and gameplay are dated, but I liked it because it was a straightahead sci-fi shooter. Oh, and Jedi Knight II: Outcast has a lot of light-saber combat, but it's still one of the best designed shooter-type games I've played, very satisfying. Snowblind takes place in sort of a Deus Ex type setting, but it's probably best as a rental.

Oop, I'm going back pretty far. I'd better stop before I start suggesting Rise of the Triad and Blake Stone: Aliens of Gold.