Do Vertigo titles get more leeway in regards to low sales?

[spaz]

Just wondering if Vertigo titles are allowed more opportunities to continue being published than regular DC titles. What was the last Vertigo title to get cancelled? The Losers?

[Brian Cronin]

Vertigo titles tend to sell better in TPBs, so yeah, they're given a bit more leeway to see if they can find an audience in trades.

-Brian

[DWEarhart]

Testament is getting cancelled.

Most Vertigo books are signed on a five year basis it seems; they have an intended beginning middle and end. Most new DC-central character books are intended as ongoing unless stated otherwise. It seems cheaper to take a risk on a book with definitive plans as to one that is meant to keep going on and on and on and on, though DC seems to be going out of its way to keep Manhunter going (well deserved).

Plus Vertigo transcend very well into tpbs.

[spaz]

Is Testament a well-praised book? I remember Entertainment Weekly wrote a small positive blurb about it a long time ago. What is the last issue for Testament? And was The Losers cancelled I guess to low sales?

[DWEarhart]

The Losers was actually told as intended. Andy Diggle stated that the story he had in mind only took three years to tell. Testament has gained alot of praise, though you'll still find the regular amount of nay-sayers, but it just isn't selling. It was announced at SDCC; I think it's ending with 22 or 23, something like that.

[spaz]

Don't want to start another topic but do you know if any other regular DC title is getting cancelled?

[DWEarhart]

Aquaman: Swords of Atlantis, and Hawkgirl, which started off as Hawkman, has recently been cancelled.

[spaz]

Knew about Hawkgirl but didn't know about Aquaman. Again do you know the number for Aquaman?

[DWEarhart]

I believe it's 57.

There are always books in trouble. Blue Beetle and Checkmate are some others, which is one reason why Blue Beetle is being put in the Teen Titans. DC hopes for his solo book to gain some attention from that, while Checkmate is just one of the best reads month to month, and one of the best books period, but it doesn't sell. It and Manhunter are still the only DC-central books I collect.

From Vertigo, Loveless seems to be one, The Exterminators, and probably Army@Love. Exterminators and Army@Love are great. I've never read Loveless.

[henryfish]

That new Deadman thing has also been cancelled. There have been several other cancelled series recently, such as the most recent Swamp Thing.

[DonC]

Manhunter did well enough in trade sales to stave off cancellation (for now) so it isn't just a Vertigo thing. But, yeah, I think Vertigo books are given longer to build up an audience.

[MartinRedmond]

Deadman is being cancelled but the writing sucked. All of John Watkiss' or Peter Milligan's books get cancelled. Watkiss for the art being too hot and Milligan for the writing being too mind blowing I guess. Remember Trigger and The Minx?

[rick]

Deadman is being cancelled but the writing sucked. All of John Watkiss' or Peter Milligan's books get cancelled. Watkiss for the art being too hot and Milligan for the writing being too mind blowing I guess. Remember Trigger and The Minx?


Sorry to play visagoth and all, but it also might just be that Watkiss really isn't that good an artist and that Milligan hasn't written anything worth buying sine Shade was canceled.

Certainly that's how I would call it.

[MartinRedmond]

Blasphemy!!! >:(

[rick]

Blasphemy!!! >:(



It's what I do best. :)

[MartinRedmond]

Also, Seaguy didn't get it's sequel. I enjoyed that alot.

[DonC]

Also, Seaguy didn't get it's sequel. I enjoyed that alot.


Grant Morrison is working on that right now. It should be out in 2013.

[Ronald Bryan]

Grant Morrison is working on that right now. It should be out in 2013.
Damn, the year after the world ends.

[Karl H]

I'd heard rumours (I can't remember where from) the Crossing Midnight wasn't doing brilliantly and was considered in danger.

[Ryan Day]

I'd heard rumours (I can't remember where from) the Crossing Midnight wasn't doing brilliantly and was considered in danger.

The sales on the monthly are pretty poor - around the same level as Testament, which got the axe.

Whether it survives depends on how well the trades sell. Lately, Vertigo seems to be doing a pretty quick turnaround with trades and offering the first volumes at a lower price, so we'll have to see how that model works.

None of Vertigo's recent launches have been a real hit, on the level of Y or Fables, but Crossing Midnight and Scalped seem to be doing particularly poorly - disappointing, since I'm really enjoying both of them.

[Sean Walsh]

From Vertigo, Loveless seems to be one, The Exterminators, and probably Army@Love. Exterminators and Army@Love are great. I've never read Loveless.

Exterminators just seemed too.....cool, too smart. Great art (Tony Moore = awesome) but it was really out there... And yet even though I sold my issues, it wasn't a bad series and I'd pick it back up again if I had the chance. But just too weird for me, I guess. And that scares me 'cause I'm weird. :p

Loveless is just drivel. Read the first TPB, and almost threw it out instead of on eBay.

[spaz]

Is Loveless cancelled? I noticed there's no future issue beyond 19 on the DC comics website. Is it long delay or kaput?

[fever00]

i'm trying not to get too attached to army@love because fort whatever reason it seems doomed. exterminators is just too good to go anywhere. i will weep if it goes. how is american virgin doing? i like the book, but lthe current arc is a bit of a wank.