WWC: Future Avengers Assemble! Kirkman talks “Killraven”

[andy khouri]

Robert Kirkman and Rob Liefeld reintroduce readers to Marvel's Martian-fighter “Killraven” in a five-issue miniseries, which also introduces a new version of one Marvel’s classic teams.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=11554

[Adriel]

Who would be able to wield Thor's hammer?

And does anyone else feel a little bit weird about them making this the definite future of the MU?

[EnDwiGast]

Who would be able to wield Thor's hammer?

And does anyone else feel a little bit weird about them making this the definite future of the MU?


This seems no different than what they did through the last Guardians of the Galaxy ongoing. I don't think this will overly impact the current Marvel U any more than any of the End minis did.

I am most curious to see if the question of how Killraven and Guardians of the Galaxy tie in to each other is addressed. Cap's shield will be one big clue.

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And does anyone else feel a little bit weird about them making this the definite future of the MU?Not really. From what Kirkman is saying, it takes place far enough in the future for its continuity status to be completely irrelevant.

[DaeJi]

Would do you mean "definite future?" They way I see, they'll say that now, but then go back on it later; I don't think it's possible or wise to have a "definite future".

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I'm a little confused as to where this series might fit. We've already seen 616 Killraven debut in the Marvel Universe, in Paul Cornell's Wisdom series. This series can only really be another retelling of the same stiry Alan Davis did a few years ago.

[EnDwiGast]

Would do you mean "definite future?" They way I see, they'll say that now, but then go back on it later; I don't think it's possible or wise to have a "definite future".


I've read the article a little more closely now and I think the quote that started the worry is :


"This Earth is the same Earth as the Marvel Universe," Kirkman stated.

But I also think it just uses the current Marvel U as its starting point but does not fix the current marvel's future. As you pointed out that wouldn't really be a good idea, plus there have been so many futures of the Marvel u presented that its only a matter of time before its no 616 designation is picked. (Though Quesada may block it from getting a particular number)

Plus my own question was answered by this quote:


but [the new miniseries] establishes a new continuity and new take on the character," Kirkman explained.

[EnDwiGast]

I'm a little confused as to where this series might fit. We've already seen 616 Killraven debut in the Marvel Universe, in Paul Cornell's Wisdom series. This series can only really be another retelling of the same stiry Alan Davis did a few years ago.

This was my big question too, but the i re-read and saw the quote where it says they are establishing a brand new continuity.

[drwho]

This reminds me too much of Guardians of the Galaxy without the characters I enjoy. I also had my fill of rob in the current onslaught mini.

[EnDwiGast]

This reminds me too much of Guardians of the Galaxy without the characters I enjoy. I also had my fill of rob in the current onslaught mini.

Well - and this is an old joke -- but unless things change, you'll have forgotten it was even on the stands by the time it finishes.

[Adriel]

And I just KNOW that Wolverine is going to be in here somewhere.

Probably that person at the end of the first issue.

If I remember correctly, Killraven starts out in an arena.

I bet at the end of the first issue, he is going to fight Wolverine.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

And I bet the anatomical proportions of all concerned are going to be... weird... :rolleyes: :D

[StoneGold]

And I bet the anatomical proportions of all concerned are going to be... weird... :rolleyes: :D

You're imagining them all with giant wieners, aren't you?


Pervert.

[Titanium]

I was excited to hear Kirkman was doing Killraven.

Then he went and teamed up with Rob Liefeld and I completely gave up on the book.

[Will.S]

I was excited to hear Kirkman was doing Killraven.

Then he went and teamed up with Rob Liefeld and I completely gave up on the book.
Yeah, anytime I hear Liefeld's involvement my interest drops down to the negative points.

He's a nice guy and all but I don't think I can ever buy another comic by him ever again.

[StoneGold]

Y'know, even beyond Rob, Killraven never really works. It's a nice concept, but it just never clicks. Granted, that's at least in part to traditionally having one of the most homoerotic costumes this side of Namor.

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[Rod G]

I'll give it a chance.


Hey,it IS Killraven.

[Omega the Unknown]

so everything that happend with killraven in the 70's series is no longer in continuity?

did superboy punch something again?

I will try it, but I really enjoyed the first series.

p craig russell had some really out there stuff back in the day, let me tell ya.

and like others have pointed out, killravens history directly led into guardians of the galaxy (another series I loved) so I will be curious how they tackle that.

not sure how I feel about them having a thor and iron man and etc. part of the charm of the original series was how outmatched killravens crew were.


In the original series the martians killed the avengers, Doom throws cap's shield into orbit to keep it out of martian hands (out of respect for cap!), and no superheroes survived.

[corncob]

not a fan of killraven but I like kirkman so I might give it a chance

[Lombardo!]

i loved LOVED the Essential Killraven. LOVED it.

but what the hell is the point of having 'Essential' ANYTHING if every time the character is revived in a new series, they start his entire story from scratch, each departure more distant than the last?!?!

while the new premise seems cool, i'm heartbroken. Those stooges on hover-platforms are not the slimy, inhuman godless blobs that were so uncaring and cold that it gave you shivers. i was looking so forawrd to a new Killraven series.

but this aint Killraven. it's a good premise, granted, dont get me wrong! i just feel saddened that instead of possibly changing a few details (martians for ... skrulls? killraven for ... a different new character?) theyve just chosen to use what they had lying around the office.

[Dusty.]

Everything Kirkman has done at Marvel has bombed horribly. EVERYTHING! That's not a knock on quality, just commentary on sales. (although I think we can agree that Kirkman hasn't exactly distinguished himself as a great Marvel writer)

I'm a Liefeld fan. I think it's really sad that some people are so used to just flocking with the sheep, that they just jump in and bash whoever they are told to bash, and think they come off as somebody to be taken seriously. If people actually looked at Liefeld's recent work, instead of STILL being "programmed" like they have been since 1995, they might actually see how ridiculous the same old tired bashing looks. He's putting out some of the best work of his career. You know how you can tell? Notice how you don't see any of his bashers posting his recent work and tearing it apart? They always try to pull out the Cap boobs, and then they all spend their time looking and laughing, meanwhile, the rest of the world advanced by many years...

I never picked up Killraven before. Not even with Alan Davis. I'll have to see something that looks good to pick this up. Liefeld isn't what I'm worried about, it's Kirkman.

[StoneGold]

and like others have pointed out, killravens history directly led into guardians of the galaxy (another series I loved) so I will be curious how they tackle that.


Except ever since Vance Astrovik became Marvel Boy, they've been an alternate future. So any Killraven that leads to GOTG would be an alternate one from any modern version.


In other words, Supreme Power didn't do anything to invalidate Squadron Supreme.