X-POSITION: Week Eleven

[andy khouri]

This week, CBR brings you an exclusive first look at the first colored "Astonishing X-Men" art by Simone Bianchi, while writer Mike Carey answers your questions and even reveals a Skrull!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=11526

[Bart Simpson]

I hope that Astonishing art is just sketch stuff. X-23 looks like Hisako except with claws. And if that's actual art from the new series it means everyone BUT Hisako made it back ok, and Emma doesn't have mental powers anymore but now can shoot stuff from her hands. wonderful. :rolleyes:

[Flight]

OMG Risque has a part in Messiah CompleX!??!~!~!~~!~~~~

[Nyssane]

OMFG FADED, I LOVE YOU. Kleinstocks? OMG YES. PLEEEEASE, MIKE CAREY. I think after he found out the Kleinstocks were fan-favorites, he was like "omg I need to put them in so fans won't hate meee!" or maybe he just wants to have my babies. Either way, I get mine.

[Brian M.]

I have a boner.

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/5503/xmmessiah001cvrinksbx7.jpg

[Hi-Fi]

Plans have changed, because the shape of the X-verse after “Messiah CompleX” has now been planned out in more detail and we know where all the pieces are going to fall. I'm still going to be writing an X-book, but I can't be specific right now about exactly how that's going to work.

It looks like Mike won't be writing X-Men after the crossover. :(

[Dagger]

I hope that Astonishing art is just sketch stuff. X-23 looks like Hisako except with claws. And if that's actual art from the new series it means everyone BUT Hisako made it back ok, and Emma doesn't have mental powers anymore but now can shoot stuff from her hands. wonderful. :rolleyes:
Emma's been shown to be able to focus her mental powers through her hands, so maybe that's all it really is.

[Nyssane]

OMFG THE PREVIEW ART HAS MADE MY BRAIN EXPLODE.

Frenzy is totally in the SPOTLIGHT.

[Hi-Fi]

OMFG FADED, I LOVE YOU. Kleinstocks? OMG YES. PLEEEEASE, MIKE CAREY. I think after he found out the Kleinstocks were fan-favorites, he was like "omg I need to put them in so fans won't hate meee!" or maybe he just wants to have my babies. Either way, I get mine.
Looks like we'll have a lot of Frenzy next issue, Nyssie. :)

[kate-pryde]

It looks like Mike won't be writing X-Men after the crossover. :(

I'm wondering if that means X-Men is the book being canceled and is turning into X-Force? Or going away completely so Astonishing and Uncanny are the only core books?

Or maybe it means that Adjectiveless won't be Adjectiveless any more and will get an Adjective?

[rwsmith]

It looks like Mike won't be writing X-Men after the crossover. :(

Maybe they're changing X-men to X-Force? That could be cool. As long as he gets to write Rogue and (assuming they bring him back) Cable.

Oh, and I love that colored Astonishing X-men preview image. I really do kind of hope that's the team Ellis goes with. I know that having both Wolverine and X-23 on the same team could be kind of redundant, but it could also be fun.

[Pach!]

I think X-men and New X-men are going to be relaunched with different names.

[Bart Simpson]

And speaking of characters that are missed, Tavia is longing for a certain redhead. “I know lots of people ask it, but I'm going to ask it anyway. One day, I expect Jean Grey to return. What kind of things do you guys in the X-office debate before you allow something like that to happen? Why would you not want it to happen?”

Okay, I'm going to go out on a limb here. I wish Jean hadn't come back that first time, or at least not in the way she did. Some resurrections work, and some don't. Being told ‘this character who you think you've been following for the past X years has never actually been the character you thought she was, because the character you thought she was is in fact over here' never works.

So the questions would always be – in this order – first, do we want to bring this character back? And second, is there a way of doing it that doesn't cheat the audience or offend their intelligence? If the answer is “yes” on both counts, then you go ahead.

I can agree with Mike on this. THere could have been 1000 different things they could have done for her return the 1st time, not the poorly executed way they did it.
Thank goodness for Grant Morrison.

But I hope Mike Carey can pen Jean's return. He knows what works.

[Brian M.]

I don't think the books Uncanny or Adjectiveless are going ANYWHERE. I do believe their casts will drastically change. New X-Men may get canned and shuffled else where.

[Volk1]

1) What's the possibility of some of the following characters playing a part in the X-universe in the next year: Warlock/Douglock, X-Man, Mimic, Husk, Joseph, Pulse, Shatterstar, Longshot, Mondo, Alchemy, Lifeguard, Slipstream, or Forge?

MCarey: Well, there are reasons why I can't be entirely specific, but your list includes four hits and nine misses. Forge is about to become pretty damn important.

PULSE is totally showing up!!! *faints like a school-girl*:o

[Dagger]

Brian, who's drawing that? It looks a little like Finch/Tan/Silvestri, but I can't tell. It looks awesome!

[Volk1]

Okay the four hits are:

1. Forge!! : He's a genius. The X-Men need him now...

2. Husk: Carey has said he wants her

3. Mimic: I don't know why but I get this vibe he's coming back.

4. Pulse: Because the fans demanded it!!!:)

[Hi-Fi]

I don't think the books Uncanny or Adjectiveless are going ANYWHERE. I do believe their casts will drastically change. New X-Men may get canned and shuffled else where.
I don't know if Adjectiveless is being cancelled or not, what I know is that Mike is apparently going somewhere else, and I'll be pissed if they relocate him to, I don't know, Deadpool or something like that.

I want him writing an X-Team.

[Hi-Fi]

By the way, Blindfold totally faked her own death. Smart girl.

[Pach!]

By the way, Blindfold totally faked her own death. Smart girl.

She is. Layla would hate her though.

[Slant]

By the way, Blindfold totally faked her own death. Smart girl.

Bah. If Exodus was really badass he'd blow her head off or something. Just in case.

But yeah, she faked it.

[Volk1]

She is. Layla would hate her though.

Preview would hate them both. :p

[rwsmith]

I don't know if Adjectiveless is being cancelled or not, what I know is that Mike is apparently going somewhere else, and I'll be pissed if they relocate him to, I don't know, Deadpool or something like that.

I want him writing an X-Team.

X-Force might be just as cool so long as he has some core X-men members (e.g., Rogue and Iceman) as a part of that cast.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I have a boner.
[/IMG]

that art is fug

[Hi-Fi]

X-Force might be just as cool so long as he has some core X-men members (e.g., Rogue and Iceman) as a part of that cast.
I hope so.

[Kalen O.]

Easy Vic, 'an X-book' is left deliberately broad. It could be any number of things, it could be adjectiveless getting and adjective or becoming X-Force as others have stated, or it could be Brubaker's leaving and Carey moves to Uncanny or it could be Adjectiveless continues but X-Force is launched and Carey takes that title with some of the cast that made his title so great and X-Forcey to begin with. See? Could be lots of stuff.

And hmm, did Frenzy read something in Destiny's Diaries she doesn't like? ZOMG I bet she read that she's gonna DIE!!!! And I'm pretty convinced its Elixir the Acolytes are there for with that panel of Exodus with his hand on Josh's shoulder. NOOOO JOSH! DONT GO TO THE DARK SIDE!!!

And gah, how much do I wanna know who the four hits were in that list? Husk and Forge seem obvious hits to me, but I have NO idea who the other two are. We know NEX and Exiles arent really involved in the crossover so it wouldnt make sense to use Longshot when they've got Longshot over there. Maybe the main MU's Mimic? I don't think its Pulse, sorry Volk and Faded and Andres, just gut feeling, but maybe X-Man, following up on the Endangered Species story? OR I have a feeling it could be Alchemy as Mike likes the character and had Pandemic using his powers....UGHIMUSTKNOWNOW! Just no Lifeguard plz. Or Slipstream. Unless like, Messiah Complex is all part of some grand master plan to make them cool, thats ok I guess. But no surfhoverboard. Just say no to surfhoverboards. They are never cool. I hath spoken.

[Brian M.]

Artist is Finch.

Hi-Fi, my money is on Brubaker leaving Uncanny and Carey writing Uncanny. I don't think your gonna see him leaving the X-World. It'd be retarded.

[We R. Venom]

This is so god damn conflicting for me.

[Brian M.]

that art is fug

Your mother is fug.

[Hi-Fi]

Yeah, I know, I'm getting a little crazy here. I just don''t want him to leave Rogue. :(

And Brian, didn't Bru say he'd be still writing Uncanny after the crossover? I could swear he did.

[We R. Venom]

As long as Carey stays on X-men it's all good.

[We R. Venom]

As long as Carey stays on X-men it's all good. If he doesn't...

[Hi-Fi]

And I'm pretty convinced its Elixir the Acolytes are there for with that panel of Exodus with his hand on Josh's shoulder. NOOOO JOSH! DONT GO TO THE DARK SIDE!!!
Please! They check Blindfold first. They CLEARLY want her, which make her more important than Elixir! In YOUR FACE, Kalen and Caney!

[Brian M.]

Yeah, I know, I'm getting a little crazy here. I just don''t want him to leave Rogue. :(

And Brian, didn't Bru say he'd be still writing Uncanny after the crossover? I could swear he did.

Maybe they'll both stay, but I can't see Marvel letting Carey have a big hand in the shaping of the books and then saying...well now guess what your gonna be writing FF. Or something like that.

[Kalen O.]

Oh I know, I'm just as internally frantic about him still needing to write Iceman, lol. I'm just choosing to go with the belief that wherever he's going, he's taking Rogue and Iceman with him.

That's it! Carey's new X-Book is gonna be The eXcellent Road Trippin Adventures of Rogue And That Guy That Did Her Momma! Now with 50% extra Jerry Springer-ness!

Wow, its so gonna rock hard core.

[Pro]

Forge is about to become pretty damn important.

I'm wondering if at the end of messiah complex we might have a larger group of mutants but in their own homeland, self governing .. Forge's involvement makes me think of the XSE, Bishop's future where mutant ghettoes were overseen by mutant cops. Huber in xfactor wants mutants on the endangered species list which might give them certain rights to land and resources. Guido is offered the job of sherriff of mutant town. The x-men are said to be an army more than a family after the crossover.
If we are going to see more mutants than 199 in the near future (which seems likely given Masque's YouTube statements) then relegating them to self governed reservation zones might be the only way the SHRA can be maintained.

[We R. Venom]

Oh I know, I'm just as internally frantic about him still needing to write Iceman, lol. I'm just choosing to go with the belief that wherever he's going, he's taking Rogue and Iceman with him.

That's it! Carey's new X-Book is gonna be The eXcellent Road Trippin Adventures of Rogue And That Guy That Did Her Momma! Now with 50% extra Jerry Springer-ness!

Wow, its so gonna rock hard core.

He damn well better take them both with him. the title won't matter as long as they are there.

[Brian M.]

X-Men go to Genosha?

[Kalen O.]

Please! They check Blindfold first. They CLEARLY want her, which make her more important than Elixir! In YOUR FACE, Kalen and Caney!

No, they clearly wanted to KILL her like they wanna KILL all the other people who can see and interact with and meddle in the future and thus mess up Mr. Sinister's new carefully controlled 'connect the dots in Destiny's Diaries' scientific experiment to restore the mutant race. Duh. So obvious plz. BUT Exodus is all comforting 'there, there, we're nice, see?' with the hand on Josh's shoulder so he'll be all 'Ok I'll get in your car, creepy stranger man,' so Exodus can be all with the seducin cuz Josh is hot and sexy and lovable in that seventeen year old jailbait YOU'S A GUNNA GO TO JAAAAAAAAAAAAIL MR. BAD MAN kinda way.

Also Duh. So obvious plz.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

All of Finch's characters look they are tensing up because they have to go take a dump


Id like to see Wicked and Freakshow come back. I think they are the real messiahs.

[Hi-Fi]

No, they clearly wanted to KILL her like they wanna KILL all the other people who can see and interact with and meddle in the future and thus mess up Mr. Sinister's new carefully controlled 'connect the dots in Destiny's Diaries' scientific experiment to restore the mutant race. Duh. So obvious plz. BUT Exodus is all comforting 'there, there, we're nice, see?' with the hand on Josh's shoulder so he'll be all 'Ok I'll get in your car, creepy stranger man,' so Exodus can be all with the seducin cuz Josh is hot and sexy and lovable in that seventeen year old jailbait YOU'S A GUNNA GO TO JAAAAAAAAAAAAIL MR. BAD MAN kinda way.

Also Duh. So obvious plz.
LOL, you cleary didn't realize Tempo stopped time right there, did you? And the students are all frozen? And Exodus says: "Girl is dead. Looks like this boy did it". And then he flicks Josh's ear and Josh falls and Unuscione LOLs. And Frenzy says: "You guys, I found Iceman's diary!" and then she reads is out loud and they all scream together: "I knew it!" End of scene.

[Pach!]

Easy Vic, 'an X-book' is left deliberately broad. It could be any number of things, it could be adjectiveless getting and adjective or becoming X-Force as others have stated, or it could be Brubaker's leaving and Carey moves to Uncanny or it could be Adjectiveless continues but X-Force is launched and Carey takes that title with some of the cast that made his title so great and X-Forcey to begin with. See? Could be lots of stuff.

And hmm, did Frenzy read something in Destiny's Diaries she doesn't like? ZOMG I bet she read that she's gonna DIE!!!! And I'm pretty convinced its Elixir the Acolytes are there for with that panel of Exodus with his hand on Josh's shoulder. NOOOO JOSH! DONT GO TO THE DARK SIDE!!!

And gah, how much do I wanna know who the four hits were in that list? Husk and Forge seem obvious hits to me, but I have NO idea who the other two are. We know NEX and Exiles arent really involved in the crossover so it wouldnt make sense to use Longshot when they've got Longshot over there. Maybe the main MU's Mimic? I don't think its Pulse, sorry Volk and Faded and Andres, just gut feeling, but maybe X-Man, following up on the Endangered Species story? OR I have a feeling it could be Alchemy as Mike likes the character and had Pandemic using his powers....UGHIMUSTKNOWNOW! Just no Lifeguard plz. Or Slipstream. Unless like, Messiah Complex is all part of some grand master plan to make them cool, thats ok I guess. But no surfhoverboard. Just say no to surfhoverboards. They are never cool. I hath spoken.

I wish it was Pulse though. :(

[Faded]

OMFG FADED, I LOVE YOU. Kleinstocks? OMG YES. PLEEEEASE, MIKE CAREY. I think after he found out the Kleinstocks were fan-favorites, he was like "omg I need to put them in so fans won't hate meee!" or maybe he just wants to have my babies. Either way, I get mine.

LOL mass confusion, I didn't even send in questions this week!

Scanner's sitting it out, too, it appears. At least they can comeback together!

((EDIT: Wait, I sent those in (late) last week! Yay, I love X-P!!!))

You're planting seeds in our minds, in some instances.

*fertilizes*


"X-Men: Messiah CompleX" art by Marc Silvestri
“I have several questions for you, but first I just wanted to say that I've been reading the X-books on and off since the early nineties, and I have to say I have not enjoyed the X-books as much as I am right now thanks in no small part to Brubaker and Carey.”

Thanks, Eric. I'm glad you're enjoying the ride. Seriously, though, it just gets better with “Messiah CompleX.” It's become a labour of love for all of us.

1) What's the possibility of some of the following characters playing a part in the X-universe in the next year: Warlock/Douglock, X-Man, Mimic, Husk, Joseph, Pulse, Shatterstar, Longshot, Mondo, Alchemy, Lifeguard, Slipstream, or Forge?

Well, there are reasons why I can't be entirely specific, but your list includes four hits and nine misses. Forge is about to become pretty damn important.

My guess is X-Man, Husk, Longshot, and Forge, all much to my dismay.

Pulse & Mondo FTW!

Well, speaking as a skrull, I've been involved in the planning of this invasion from an early stage. We're going to make you bleed out of your ears, human scum.

LOL! This guy makes me mushy.

[Volk1]

And gah, how much do I wanna know who the four hits were in that list? Husk and Forge seem obvious hits to me, but I have NO idea who the other two are. We know NEX and Exiles arent really involved in the crossover so it wouldnt make sense to use Longshot when they've got Longshot over there. Maybe the main MU's Mimic? I don't think its Pulse, sorry Volk and Faded and Andres, just gut feeling, but maybe X-Man, following up on the Endangered Species story? OR I have a feeling it could be Alchemy as Mike likes the character and had Pandemic using his powers....UGHIMUSTKNOWNOW! Just no Lifeguard plz. Or Slipstream. Unless like, Messiah Complex is all part of some grand master plan to make them cool, thats ok I guess. But no surfhoverboard. Just say no to surfhoverboards. They are never cool. I hath spoken.

LOL It doesn't hurt to hope!

Let's take a lookie:

1. Forge: Ok Mike basically admitted he's huge.

2. Mimic: Ties with the O5. Last seen as a prisoner of Baron Zemo. May or not be a mutant. How would he fit? Don't know for sure but there's a chance.

3. Pulse: I'm hoping. Has ties to Mystique that's known. He could be a DANGEROUS WILD-CARD!! :eek: :p

4. Shatterstar: Last seen aiding the 198. Hits on straight men. Confused about his individuality. Needs a new fashion look. Domino's whipping-boy. Star of a new X-Force????

5. Mondo: Who cares? Dead?

6. Alchemy: Pandemic used his powers. Confirmed pwowered but hasn't been seen. Could be a huge asset for the X-Men or the Acolytes/Marauders/Sinister. Seems very likely he'll show up...

7. Husk: It's a given she'll be seen.

8. Lifeguard: Is she in space? Or still with that tool Neal Sharra? Pretty powerful and still powered. Aids the X-Men?

9. X-Man: Dead. Mike said the only glimpse of him we'll get is in ES where they will only mention him.

10. Longshot: Exiles. Wutev.

11. Warlock/Douglock: How would he fit in this? Seems more likely he'd show up in Annihilation: CONQUEST.

12. Joseph: DEAD

13. Slipstream: Ugh. Depowered. Lame. Goodbye!!!


So the one's who have a chance IMO to fill the other 2 spots to join Husk and Forge are:

Pulse
Alchemy
Lifeguard
Shatterstar
Mimic


Ooo.:( After thinking about, Pulse is going up against some heavy competition!

Pulse is tired of babysitting Karma's siblings! He wants some action and he's the only person in the world who can do the CHA CHA CHA with Rogue!!!

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Not quite sure what to think of that cover.

I say we start taking bets on how long it'll take to see anything ressembling a smile on Cyke's face once MC kicks in.

Good God, I know they want him to go hardcore, but geez, he looks like even more of a lunatic than Wolvie. :D

[Kalen O.]

*fertilizes*



Thats sounds dirty.

Drrty grrl.

[Nyssane]

I just wanna say, Ramos draws the sexiest Frenzy ever.

[Faded]

LOL, you cleary didn't realize Tempo stopped time right there, did you? And the students are all frozen? And Exodus says: "Girl is dead. Looks like this boy did it". And then he flicks Josh's ear and Josh falls and Unuscione LOLs. And Frenzy says: "You guys, I found Iceman's diary!" and then she reads is out loud and they all scream together: "I knew it!" End of scene.

LOL! I love this guy, too!

[Slant]

Good God, I know they want him to go hardcore, but geez, he looks like even more of a lunatic than Wolvie. :D
Well, he IS a lunatic. It fits. :)

[Pach!]

I think there is literally 3 Pulse fans.

Even Bean has more followers.

[Dagger]

Not quite sure what to think of that cover.

I say we start taking bets on how long it'll take to see anything ressembling a smile on Cyke's face once MC kicks in.

Good God, I know they want him to go hardcore, but geez, he looks like even more of a lunatic than Wolvie. :D
It's because Emma's obsessed with putting things up his bum. He looks like that, because he's contemplating on whether he likes it or not. By the looks of him, I think he likes it.

[Faded]

I just wanna say, Ramos draws the sexiest Frenzy ever.

He really does. I'm impressed.

Make Unoo beautiful, too, Humbee!!!!

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I think there is literally 3 Pulse fans.

Even Bean has more followers.

Bean > Pulse

he's on the internets

[Kalen O.]

Welcome to my IGNORE list Hi-Fi!

Except no, then I cant see your expression when I reveal that Rogue's not gonna be part of X-Force cuz she's gonna be running off and getting MARRIED to Gambit so she can NEVER be with Sam.

Wait. I dont like that scenario either.

Dammit. I got nothing.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

It's because Emma's obsessed with putting things up his bum. He looks like that, because he's contemplating on whether he likes it or not. By the looks of him, I think he likes it.

And *that's* what you infer from the straight-jawed look/motif? :D

[Pach!]

Welcome to my IGNORE list Hi-Fi!

Except no, then I cant see your expression when I reveal that Rogue's not gonna be part of X-Force cuz she's gonna be running off and getting MARRIED to Gambit so she can NEVER be with Sam.

Wait. I dont like that scenario either.

Dammit. I got nothing.

Sometimes it helps to shoot people in the chest.

[Faded]

Thats sounds dirty.

Drrty grrl.

Stop it!

You're going to make my babydaddy Mike think I'm crazy and not a good person to whisper in his ear!

I think there is literally 3 Pulse fans.

Even Bean has more followers.

jarrod and Cayman like him too! That's five. We win. Hahaha.

*is insane then gets shot by mother*

[Faded]

Bean > Pulse

he's on the internets

So are you!

Vash = Bean.

BAN THEM.

[Kalen O.]

*is insane then gets shot by mother*

But you didnt say Pentangle Formation first!

[Brian M.]

Sent in some nice questions for Mr. Kyle. Also a bribe.

[Faded]

But you didnt say Pentangle Formation first!

Put it on my grave.

[UncannyAsianGirl]

It looks like Mike won't be writing X-Men after the crossover. :(
Yea, I guess it's okay to say it now, but when I met him, Mike did tell me that X-Men was being canceled, or it looks like it's going to be cut, but that he still would be writing an X-Book.

He didn't really clarify what book, but he did also mention something about a possible solo (or duo) series/mini. However I still haven't asked him yet if it's okay to reveal who exactly the main character(s) is.
As long as he gets to write Rogue and (assuming they bring him back) Cable.
I agree with the first part of this 100%. :D He's done so much to rebuild the character in a year that it would be a shame to see her taken out of his hands at this point in time.

I just hope he doesn't have her KO'ed as often though... :o She got knocked out during the Annual, was kidnapped/unconscious for 4 issues during the "Primary Infection" and "Condition Critical" arcs, wasn't even in the Endangered Species one-shot (which I still think takes place after this current arc) and now she's recovering from a gunshot wound in "Blinded by the Light". :eek:

As for Cable, I really don't think he's dead either, since there are so many ways that he could possibly be brought back, and most of the comments we've heard in the panels sound more tongue-in-cheek than anything.
Oh I know, I'm just as internally frantic about him still needing to write Iceman, lol. I'm just choosing to go with the belief that wherever he's going, he's taking Rogue and Iceman with him.

That's it! Carey's new X-Book is gonna be The eXcellent Road Trippin Adventures of Rogue And That Guy That Did Her Momma! Now with 50% extra Jerry Springer-ness!

Wow, its so gonna rock hard core.
Heh, I wouldn't mind a one-shot like that actually, I just read that road trip issue at my LCS yesterday!

From what he said about the Acolytes still being around post Messiah CompleX, does anyone get the impression that the next arc's going to feature them, or even (no, this isn't the series he told me about, just my guess), that they might be getting their own series?

The Acolytes themselves may not be popular enough to hold their own series, but if Magneto's involved, that could change things. Also, there's the possibility that a few of the X-Men could defect or end up teamless, or kicked out of the mansion, if we're going to get the clash of ideologies that's been mentioned from time to time.

For example, Beast has been brought up due to the nature of his expedition in Endangered Species.

Rogue might not even have a place with the X-Men anymore, since I'm sure Cyclops is going want to have more than a few choice words with her over what happened in her team's last few missions, especially regarding his son, Cable. And that's assuming she even makes it back to the mansion post-crossover.

And there's also Bishop, who's been cut off from the X-Men for quite a long time, and could still be at odds with the team.

I find it very amusing that Mike seems to have as much enthusiasm for the minor characters as many of the posters on here, especially Faded and Nyssane.

And you guys are absolutely hilarious with all your cracks and jokes. Especially the X-Men #200 ones. XD

[Pach!]

Sent in some nice questions for Mr. Kyle. Also a bribe.

Pixie is not going to die! Besides don't we have Jean Grey for that ?

[Kalen O.]

Sent in some nice questions for Mr. Kyle. Also a bribe.

I heard he's gonna take it and kill Pixie only when she dies she becomes PHOENIX PIXIE and goes to the White Hot Room and there's gonna be a whole new comic about her and Jean gossipping about all the X-Men.

It'll be awesome I bet.

[frog]

Well, it looks like the Maurauders made short work of Kitty and Peter.

So, who besides Mike is a skrull?

[Pach!]

Well, it looks like the Maurauders made short work of Kitty and Peter.

So, who besides Mike is a skrull?

The Blackcatians. They were all part of the skrull invasion.

[Mikl C]

That art is FUG. Looks Finchy to me. Gack!

[Faded]

My Risque question wasn't asked.

Sad.

Rejection is my newest collection.

[Kalen O.]

Put it on my grave.

Nay! For it shall say She Will Rise Again.

And then Faded will triumphantly return to the messageboards and everyone will be all ooooooooooooo, and I'll be all hah. Toldja so. Losers.

*Is like Blindfold with a penis*

PROPHETIC LIKE WHOA.

[Hi-Fi]

Yea, I guess it's okay to say it now, but when I met him, Mike did tell me that X-Men was being canceled, or it looks like it's going to be cut
Oh My God, UAG! :(

[Kalen O.]

Ok, all these people knowing things I don't makes me feel totally left out.

People, I must know the secretz else I cant fake being all all knowing and shit.

Duh.

Now. Reveal all, or be SMITED.

[frog]

Yea, I guess it's okay to say it now, but when I met him, Mike did tell me that X-Men was being canceled, or it looks like it's going to be cut, but that he still would be writing an X-Book.

He didn't really clarify what book, but he did also mention something about a possible solo (or duo) series/mini. However I still haven't asked him yet if it's okay to reveal who exactly the main character(s) is.:eek: :eek: :eek:



From what he said about the Acolytes still being around post Messiah CompleX, does anyone get the impression that the next arc's going to feature them, or even (no, this isn't the series he told me about, just my guess), that they might be getting their own series?

The Acolytes themselves may not be popular enough to hold their own series, but if Magneto's involved, that could change things. Also, there's the possibility that a few of the X-Men could defect or end up teamless, or kicked out of the mansion, if we're going to get the clash of ideologies that's been mentioned from time to time.

For example, Beast has been brought up due to the nature of his expedition in Endangered Species.

Rogue might not even have a place with the X-Men anymore, since I'm sure Cyclops is going want to have more than a few choice words with her over what happened in her team's last few missions, especially regarding his son, Cable. And that's assuming she even makes it back to the mansion post-crossover.

And there's also Bishop, who's been cut off from the X-Men for quite a long time, and could still be at odds with the team.





The idea of Mike working only on a solo or duo series alarms me - they don't tend to last long.

So far there's been absolutely no hint of where Beast is in Mesiah Complex - I don't suppose you have any clues, UncannyAsianGirl?

[Mikl C]

JOSEPH AND MONDO ftwwwwwwww

[JimmyDee]

One word describes my reaction to the finished Simone cover:

W O W

[Pach!]

Oh My God, UAG! :(

That sucks! :(


And this:

It's good to have priorities. Anna's priority is obviously the status of her favorite book. “A lot of us are concerned about the future of the ‘New X-Men' after ‘Messiah CompleX.' Is the title continuing? What's going to happen to the kids? And on an unrelated note, any plans for Toad?”

The story of the X-students will continue to be told after “Messiah CompleX,” you can count on that. No Toad appearances on the horizon, though.

The use of "The story of the X-students" instead of New X-men makes me think that it's getting a relaunch or something like that. I just want those books to be left alone.

[frog]

The use of "The story of the X-students" instead of New X-men makes me think that it's getting a relaunch or something like that. I just want those books to be left alone.

Yes, I'm thinking "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". :(

[Mitteloss]

That's the mansion? I thought it was Genosha. Shame, at least the current one has lasted for nearly 4 years...

Anyway, that answer about Magneto and Polaris indicated that there won't be any Magneto/Polaris reunion anytime soon...

[Nyssane]

From what he said about the Acolytes still being around post Messiah CompleX, does anyone get the impression that the next arc's going to feature them, or even (no, this isn't the series he told me about, just my guess), that they might be getting their own series?

Now that I've calmed down...

I definitely think the Acolytes are going to play a large role in the future. I think we'll get pieces of them here and there in Messiah CompleX, such as Gargouille and whatnot, but I think after the crossover, Magneto will return and become the huge X-Villain that he is. And Mike Carey will write him how he should've been written years ago.

I would love for them to get a mini-series again, they were pretty neat in the original Magneto series, and Frenzy and Scanner were awesome in Magneto: Dark Seduction.

I'm also loving, judging from the preview shots, how Frenzy is the focus of the Acolytes, aside from Exodus. I hope she becomes Magneto's right-hand woman when he returns.

I'm sad about Scanner, though. Carey said the core Acolytes aside from the Kleinstocks will appear in the issues, but apparently due to my constant nagging, he might've changed his mind and put the Kleinstocks in. Aside from them, the only other CORE Acolytes I can think of are Amelia Voght, Neophyte, and Katu. Unless he thinks Vindaloo and Spoor are "core", which would suck. Either way, we've gotten Cargill, Unuscione, Senyaka, and Gargouille, so I can't complain too much about no Scanner or Kleinstock Brothers.

No Thumbelina?! DAMN YOU, CAREY!!!

I'm glad Frenzy has a grudge against Colossus, as it makes total sense. He desserted the Acolytes and left Magneto when he needed him most.

Why the funk is Unuscione's stripes yellow instead of purple?

Aside from the Acolytes, he mentions the Hellfire Club and the original members appearing. Who's left of the original team? Sebastian Shaw and Emma Frost... Donald Pierce is still about... but the rest are dead, aren't they? Maybe Shinobi might make an appearance in the near future.

I love that Carey compares Deadpool to Simon Pegg.

Craig Kyle is the next X-Position guy? I'm going to ask if he can give Trance some Velma glasses.

I find it very amusing that Mike seems to have as much enthusiasm for the minor characters as many of the posters on here, especially Faded and Nyssane.

I think that's why everybody loves Mike. Not only does he put so much effort into giving depth to characters like Iceman, Cannonball, and Rogue, but he also goes out of his way to make sure page-time is given to characters like Lady Mastermind, Gambit, and Frenzy. He knows the Marvel Universe and how it works, and that's more than most writers can say.

Phew, okay nerdgasm is over.

[frog]

Now that I've calmed down...




Aside from the Acolytes, he mentions the Hellfire Club and the original members appearing. Who's left of the original team? Sebastian Shaw and Emma Frost... Donald Pierce is still about... but the rest are dead, aren't they? Maybe Shinobi might make an appearance in the near future.

Wither is with the Black Queen- Selena something?


I think that's why everybody loves Mike. Not only does he put so much effort into giving depth to characters like Iceman, Cannonball, and Rogue, but he also goes out of his way to make sure page-time is given to characters like Lady Mastermind, Gambit, and Frenzy. He knows the Marvel Universe and how it works, and that's more than most writers can say.


Exactly, that's why I hope he has a team and not just a couple of characters in his book.

[Dagger]

And *that's* what you infer from the straight-jawed look/motif? :D
Of course. WE all know Scott has an anal fetish!

[caney]

Please! They check Blindfold first. They CLEARLY want her, which make her more important than Elixir! In YOUR FACE, Kalen and Caney!

You will REMOVE yourself from my FACE now please!

I just wanna say, Ramos draws the sexiest Frenzy ever.

I'm digging Ramos on those two interior pages. He draws a cute Pixie back and a good Elixir profile.

I think there is literally 3 Pulse fans.

Even Bean has more followers.

I likes the Pulse as well. He's the bestest cowardly thief mutant ever. He's Gambit divided by the 90's.


jarrod and Cayman like him too! That's five. We win. Hahaha.


That's because Jarrod and Cayman are two of the coolest posters around. I'm glad Jarrod isn't banned anymore! :)


The use of "The story of the X-students" instead of New X-men makes me think that it's getting a relaunch or something like that. I just want those books to be left alone.

Hmmm... I really hope they don't cancel New X-Men as a team book. It looks like we're getting a major overhaul of the whole X-Line. Maybe they'll announce more details at Chicago?

[Brian M.]

No offense, but I'm getting kinda tired of these damn C,D-List questions. Can we ask some on characters that matteR?

[Nyssane]

No offense, but I'm getting kinda tired of these damn C,D-List questions. Can we ask some on characters that matteR?

......... BAITING.

If you want to know about your crappy original five, why don't you ask your own damn questions?

[caney]

I know! I shall ask "OMGZ will Wulverinzes be in the crossover?"

[Kalen O.]

No offense, but I'm getting kinda tired of these damn C,D-List questions. Can we ask some on characters that matteR?

While I get your frustration Brian, the thing is....they're not gonna reveal anything big about the major characters. I mean, we can ask about Cyclops and Iceman and Rogue until we're blue in the face, but really, this far in advance we all know we're just gonna get the same vague dance around the question teasers we've BEEN getting about the major characters.

With people's favorite C and D listers and questions about them, not being major players, its far more likely we can get definitive answers without spoiling major plot points. AND as Carey pointed out, in the cases where there aren't plans for them, sometimes active fan interest plants seeds like it seems to have done here, at least a little bit.

[Kalen O.]

......... BAITING.

If you want to know about your crappy original five, why don't you ask your own damn questions?

CRAPPY ORIGINAL FIVE?

TAKE IT BACK OR YOU SHALL NEVER SEE ME NAKED AGAIN!

Oh dear god, I just channeled Emma Frost.

*Goes to wash self and wait for ICEF to sue for copyright infringement*

[Faded]

Yea, I guess it's okay to say it now, but when I met him, Mike did tell me that X-Men was being canceled, or it looks like it's going to be cut, but that he still would be writing an X-Book.

He didn't really clarify what book, but he did also mention something about a possible solo (or duo) series/mini. However I still haven't asked him yet if it's okay to reveal who exactly the main character(s) is.

OMG, how could you keep this from us!?!?

j/k, I totally forgot about your previous tease to this! I'm really not alarmed at all as long as he's writing an X-team book. The only solo I'd really anticipate for was Mystique, I think.

Am I right?!?!

Nay! For it shall say She Will Rise Again.

And then Faded will triumphantly return to the messageboards and everyone will be all ooooooooooooo, and I'll be all hah. Toldja so. Losers.

*Is like Blindfold with a penis*

PROPHETIC LIKE WHOA.

O HELLZ NO.

I'd be totally, like, staying dead because I'm tired of ya'll botherin' me.

Now that I've calmed down...

I definitely think the Acolytes are going to play a large role in the future. I think we'll get pieces of them here and there in Messiah CompleX, such as Gargouille and whatnot, but I think after the crossover, Magneto will return and become the huge X-Villain that he is. And Mike Carey will write him how he should've been written years ago.

I would love for them to get a mini-series again, they were pretty neat in the original Magneto series, and Frenzy and Scanner were awesome in Magneto: Dark Seduction.

I'm also loving, judging from the preview shots, how Frenzy is the focus of the Acolytes, aside from Exodus. I hope she becomes Magneto's right-hand woman when he returns.

I'm sad about Scanner, though. Carey said the core Acolytes aside from the Kleinstocks will appear in the issues, but apparently due to my constant nagging, he might've changed his mind and put the Kleinstocks in. Aside from them, the only other CORE Acolytes I can think of are Amelia Voght, Neophyte, and Katu. Unless he thinks Vindaloo and Spoor are "core", which would suck. Either way, we've gotten Cargill, Unuscione, Senyaka, and Gargouille, so I can't complain too much about no Scanner or Kleinstock Brothers.

I'm glad Frenzy has a grudge against Colossus, as it makes total sense. He desserted the Acolytes and left Magneto when he needed him most.

I'm, like, completely confused as to how Carey said the core Acolytes would be appearing, and yet that does not include Scanner and the Kleinstocks! Maybe Kalen's getting a lucky year and Chrome will show up.

LOL, I'd be bitter. Happy for him, but bitter nonetheless.

I would LOVE some character development for the Acolytes. Its kinda sad that a larger portion of the Acolytes/Colossus grudge was written out for space, but I'm glad the tension will be there.

I'm excited though that they're back period.

If only Unoo can become sexy though lol.

[Dagger]

I'm gonna ask if were gonna get some MLF members! I wants my MLF members back!:(

[Dagger]

Oh Noes!!!! Original Acolytes Means Fabian Frickin' Cortez Is Coming Back!!!!

[We R. Venom]

......... BAITING.

If you want to know about your crappy original five, why don't you ask your own damn questions?

No, he is right. Pulse should be the last thought on any writers mind. And that thought should be. "When will I have time to kill Pulse."

[Kalen O.]

LOLZ. I love that Faded remembers my Chrome obsession.

Sigh.

Unfortunately I'm pretty resigned to his continued deadness. Especially as Carey seems to really like Alchemy, and he and Chrome had pretty similar powers.

Course, Chrome TOTALLY used them better, and was hot like WHOA, but hey, Im just saying. Not bitter.

[Kalen O.]

If Mike is writing a Mystique solo book, I will only accept this if it turns out Bobby guest stars as they fight about how to raise their Messiah Complex babeh. And Rogue teaches her niece/nephew their first words, which turn out to be PENTANGLE FORMATION!

[Nyssane]

Okay, I'm gonna pull an UAG. :D

CRAPPY ORIGINAL FIVE?

TAKE IT BACK OR YOU SHALL NEVER SEE ME NAKED AGAIN!

Oh dear god, I just channeled Emma Frost.

*Goes to wash self and wait for ICEF to sue for copyright infringement*

Noooo! Iceman is the only one worthy to be asked questions of, because Carey writes him! :D Now I can see you naked?

I'm, like, completely confused as to how Carey said the core Acolytes would be appearing, and yet that does not include Scanner and the Kleinstocks! Maybe Kalen's getting a lucky year and Chrome will show up.

LOL, I'd be bitter. Happy for him, but bitter nonetheless.

LMFAO! I would kill a bitch. We get Chrome and Delgado instead of Scanner and Kleinstocks.

Oh Noes!!!! Original Acolytes Means Fabian Frickin' Cortez Is Coming Back!!!!

If Fabian Cortez comes back, I will be even more angry than if Chrome were.

[Kalen O.]

You were almost redeemed, but then you complained about a Chrome resurrection and thus lost all worthy points forever.

Sad. So close, too.

[Nyssane]

You were almost redeemed, but then you complained about a Chrome resurrection and thus lost all worthy points forever.

Sad. So close, too.

Noo, I'd love for Chrome to return! He was my favorite out of the original Acolytes! It's just... I'd rather have Scanner and Kleinstocks... :(

[Kalen O.]

Noo, I'd love for Chrome to return! He was my favorite out of the original Acolytes! It's just... I'd rather have Scanner and Kleinstocks... :(

Too little too late.

*Waits for Vash to be summoned by the knowledge that someone is thinking of an underage pop star, and come comment on JoJo's greatness*

[Joe Zool]

Has anybody mentioned how fugly Beast's feet are in that picture?

Because, GOOD G*d, they are ugly!

[We R. Venom]

If Mike is writing a Mystique solo book, I will only accept this if it turns out Bobby guest stars as they fight about how to raise their Messiah Complex babeh. And Rogue teaches her niece/nephew their first words, which turn out to be PENTANGLE FORMATION!

You might be my best friend, starting...now!

[Kalen O.]

And Nyss, that was an absolutely pathetic attempt at UAG-ness. Poser.

[Novaya Havoc]

I was hoping Dazzler would be the Skrull. :(

[Pach!]

And Nyss, that was an absolutely pathetic attempt at UAG-ness. Poser.

Totally. UAGish posting must contain at least 10 quoted posts.

[Nyssane]

And Nyss, that was an absolutely pathetic attempt at UAG-ness. Poser.

I know! LOL as soon as I wrote that I was like oh that's bullshit, I won't be writing that much. :( I'm sorry, UAG... I've disgraced our family honor. :( :(

[Faded]

You will REMOVE yourself from my FACE now please!

I'm digging Ramos on those two interior pages. He draws a cute Pixie back and a good Elixir profile.

I likes the Pulse as well. He's the bestest cowardly thief mutant ever. He's Gambit divided by the 90's.

That's because Jarrod and Cayman are two of the coolest posters around. I'm glad Jarrod isn't banned anymore! :)

LOL. You rock more and more everyday.

No offense, but I'm getting kinda tired of these damn C,D-List questions. Can we ask some on characters that matteR?

Hey, you get yours in all the high-profile interviews at Newsarama or elsewhere, and we finally get some attention from creators and staff members at Marvel. You got your Finch/Silvestri covers and in-story leader omgsoawesome attention while we have to grasp for an appearance.

Summary = let us get ours for a change.

[Joe Zool]

The possible cancellation of X-Men makes me very, very, very sad. :( And it just hit #200. I wanted to see it hit #300 and beyond. Wah.

[Kalen O.]

And did anyone else catch Carey's answer about how he felt the first Jean resurrection didnt work, as the whole 'this character you've been following for months isnt really her, and she's been over here this whole time' thing never works? It almost makes me think that there are no plans for major X-characters to be revealed as Skrulls, as it seems its not really something he'd get behind, yet he still seems excited about the Skrull storyline.

[Novaya Havoc]

Hey, you get yours in all the high-profile interviews at Newsarama or elsewhere, and we finally get some attention from creators and staff members at Marvel. You got your Finch/Silvestri covers and in-story leader omgsoawesome attention while we have to grasp for an appearance.

Summary = let us get ours for a change.

FOR FADED'S EYES ONLYZ

Since you have the hookup faded, I beg you to ask if Dazzler can please be a skrull and have NEX retconned in the next X-Position. <3

[Faded]

No, he is right. Pulse should be the last thought on any writers mind. And that thought should be. "When will I have time to kill Pulse."

...And this is why you suck.

LOLZ. I love that Faded remembers my Chrome obsession.

Sigh.

Unfortunately I'm pretty resigned to his continued deadness. Especially as Carey seems to really like Alchemy, and he and Chrome had pretty similar powers.

Course, Chrome TOTALLY used them better, and was hot like WHOA, but hey, Im just saying. Not bitter.

It was when we first met in Acolyte Month and you were an avatarless newb who was like, totally shaking things up but loved a D-Lister so I was like, "hey I like this guy if only he had an avatar" and now you do.

So here we are.


LMFAO! I would kill a bitch. We get Chrome and Delgado instead of Scanner and Kleinstocks.

Delgado twincest would be a bear lover's dream come true.

[Faded]

FOR FADED'S EYES ONLYZ

Since you have the hookup faded, I beg you to ask if Dazzler can please be a skrull and have NEX retconned in the next X-Position. <3

Your image link isn't showing up, you crazy guy!

I don't have a hookup (!!!!) but it will be done. lol.

[Kalen O.]

It was when we first met in Acolyte Month and you were an avatarless newb who was like, totally shaking things up but loved a D-Lister so I was like, "hey I like this guy if only he had an avatar" and now you do.

So here we are.

LOL! Its so very E! Hollywood 'In the Beginning'. I love it.

'And this is why you suck' should totally be a song. MIMS, take note.

[jarrod]

Ugh, I'm totally gutted about the Carey/X-Men reveal... and to make matters worse, NXM may be "changing" too?! Will C&C still be doing something at least?! :(

Seriously, these two books (along with X-Factor) have been about all that's keeping me interested in the Xbooks... if they wanted to start canceling and rearranging, they should've started with Uncanny and the Wolverine titles. At least I've got Ellis and Cornell to look forward to....



I have a boner.
Yeah, Emma's pretty hot, isn't she?



\That's it! Carey's new X-Book is gonna be The eXcellent Road Trippin Adventures of Rogue And That Guy That Did Her Momma! Now with 50% extra Jerry Springer-ness!
Uh... so Rogue & Wolverine? ;)



jarrod and Cayman like him too! That's five. We win. Hahaha.
Hellz yes! The more Pulse, the better!



That's because Jarrod and Cayman are two of the coolest posters around. I'm glad Jarrod isn't banned anymore! :)
Hellz yes! The more caney, the better!

[We R. Venom]

...And this is why you suck.

Well Sooorrry.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Too little too late.

*Waits for Vash to be summoned by the knowledge that someone is thinking of an underage pop star, and come comment on JoJo's greatness*

Jojo is greater than ....


yes, im going to say it,,,


Greater than CORSAIR!!!!


Also, not underaged most places. *high five*

[Faded]

LOL! Its so very E! Hollywood 'In the Beginning'. I love it.

'And this is why you suck' should totally be a song. MIMS, take note.

Or...he can NOT take note and gracefully retire.

[Brian M.]

Didn't mean to demeen any of the C, D-List questions. Just wishing I could get some more info on characters I like. Seems the ones I've been asking on mainstream folks get no love and instead get another "When is X-Man coming back" question.

[Faded]

Well Sooorrry.

I was just kiddiiing.

Well kindasorta.

No really, I was. It was a reason for someone to suck but nothing against your character.

[Kalen O.]

Didn't mean to demeen any of the C, D-List questions. Just wishing I could get some more info on characters I like. Seems the ones I've been asking on mainstream folks get no love and instead get another "When is X-Man coming back" question.

I know, I get it man, I'm just saying, the questions about the 'bigger players' are getting overlooked for a reason. Only so much they can tell us about what they have planned for Cyclops without giving away the farm, you know?

And lol. Point to Faded.

[frog]

Didn't mean to demeen any of the C, D-List questions. Just wishing I could get some more info on characters I like. Seems the ones I've been asking on mainstream folks get no love and instead get another "When is X-Man coming back" question.

I think that Kalen O. is right in that Marvel isn't going to say too much about the major players as not to give away big plot points. At least, I hope that's why Beast hasn't been mentioned so far.

[kate-pryde]

Yea, I guess it's okay to say it now, but when I met him, Mike did tell me that X-Men was being canceled, or it looks like it's going to be cut, but that he still would be writing an X-Book.

I guess that explains why Axel Alonso kept talking about Uncanny and Astonishing as the only core books without a single mention of Adjectiveless :(

It keeps with the trend that Alonso is trying to simply the X-books to make them easier for fans who don't read X-books to figure out which title to read.

But it sucks that Mike Carey is getting kicked off of a core X-title, while Brubaker gets to stay. Carey's work has been the best new writer on X-books for years, and all that gets him is his book canceled. :(

[We R. Venom]

I was just kiddiiing.

Well kindasorta.

No really, I was. It was a reason for someone to suck but nothing against your character.

lol well I can see why. No problem.

[Brian M.]

It is ridiculous to have an anniversy issue of X-Men, then to cancel it. It's not gonna be cancelled. New X-Men will go before that book.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I always had a retcon in mind involving chrome.

When Magneto and the acolytes were all standing about waiting for Asteriod M to explode Chrome turned the rest of them into adamantium or something


Then shield found it and has been cloning magneto from the statue or something


That way everything involving Magneto post X-men 3 is undone

[rwsmith]

Ugh, I'm totally gutted about the Carey/X-Men reveal... and to make matters worse, NXM may be "changing" too?! Will C&C still be doing something at least?! :(

Seriously, these two books (along with X-Factor) have been about all that's keeping me interested in the Xbooks... if they wanted to start canceling and rearranging, they should've started with Uncanny and the Wolverine titles. At least I've got Ellis and Cornell to look forward to....

Relax, man. Carey said he's still doing an X-book, and you have no idea what that might be. At least wait until the announcements tomorrow in Chicago before you start with the bitching already.

Something tells me that whatever they've got planned might actually be cooler than we've got right now. My guess is actually that Carey and Brubaker are going to collaborate on Uncanny with rotating artists, kind of like they're doing with Amazing Spider-man right now (but it will come out twice monthly instead of three times). Either that, or it's X-Force (as others have already guessed), which could be very cool with Mike Carey writing and the right artist and cast of characters.

[jarrod]

Relax, man. Carey said he's still doing an X-book, and you have no idea what that might be. At least wait until the announcements tomorrow in Chicago before you start with the bitching already.
Too late, let the bitching commence!



Something tells me that whatever they've got planned might actually be cooler than we've got right now. My guess is actually that Carey and Brubaker are going to collaborate on Uncanny with rotating artists, kind of like they're doing with Amazing Spider-man right now (but it will come out twice monthly instead of three times). Either that, or it's X-Force (as others have already guessed), which could be very cool with Mike Carey writing and the right artist and cast of characters.
True, I'll have to wait and see what's lined up. Ellis/Bianchi on Astonishing was gigantic step in the right direction, we know X-Factor's safe (thank JESUSFUCK!) and Cornell's likely going to be headlining an Excalibur revamp... so there's already plenty to look forward to.

Just seems so... I dunno, like such a mistake to move Carey off a core book. If anything, I'd say Brubaker should be the one moving to a new project (hell, he'd be great on an X-Force revamp). :/

[rwsmith]

How do you know he's not? That's my point, man.:)

[Nyssane]

Maybe Carey's book is like what UAG said -- an Acolytes series. HAW HAW.

[UncannyAsianGirl]

Ok, all these people knowing things I don't makes me feel totally left out.

People, I must know the secretz else I cant fake being all all knowing and shit.

Duh.

Now. Reveal all, or be SMITED.
*Is smited* x_X But Mike asked me not to tell! =P
:eek:
The idea of Mike working only on a solo or duo series alarms me - they don't tend to last long.

So far there's been absolutely no hint of where Beast is in Mesiah Complex - I don't suppose you have any clues, UncannyAsianGirl?
Sorry, I didn't ask about Beast, so I don't know. The only thing I know of regarding Hank, and it's already been announced, is that Mythos Oneshot written by Mike.

As for the solo/duo series, I got the gist that it wasn't going to be his main X-related project, more like a side project, since it is true that most X-Characters don't have enough popularity to hold their own for very long.
I definitely think the Acolytes are going to play a large role in the future. I think we'll get pieces of them here and there in Messiah CompleX, such as Gargouille and whatnot, but I think after the crossover, Magneto will return and become the huge X-Villain that he is. And Mike Carey will write him how he should've been written years ago.

Ah, I'm also for a well-written Magneto. :D Mike seems like the type of guy who not only knows of the characters, but actually understands them. He wrote an extensive response to one of the Magneto fans on this board (I think it was Rivka) after he was questioned what he thought about Magneto.

I'm happy for you that your favorite character Frenzy is getting a lot of time in the spotlight. :D Maybe perhaps in the future, she and Rogue could have a little rematch after the beatdown she received in the Annual? :p Since Mystique and Frenzy are sort of on the same side now, I wonder if Mike's going to address the little fact that Raven kicked her through a window?

Speaking of Mystique... Mike mentioned the future of the Acolytes, but not the Marauders... interesting.
Aside from the Acolytes, he mentions the Hellfire Club and the original members appearing. Who's left of the original team? Sebastian Shaw and Emma Frost... Donald Pierce is still about... but the rest are dead, aren't they? Maybe Shinobi might make an appearance in the near future.
The Hellfire question that was asked was about an origin story, and how they came to be, I can't really think of any more of the orginal members of it either, so I'm not that sure either. Would you count Sage as a member? =P

You speak of Shinobi Shaw and his hot half-Asian bi-ness quite often. He was one of the Upstarts or something, and also momentarily took over his dad's spot as Black King of the Hellfire Club, correct? I'm kinda interested in him, since I'd probably end up including him in my incarnation of the HFC if I ever get around to writing my X-Evo fic.

As for Origin stories, I think one for the Hellfire Club would be cool, but I'd like to see an origin story for Mystique's Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. I asked Mike if he'd like to see one too, and he said he would. He also seems to like the Mystique/Destiny relationship. He said to also watch out for a few more developments between the relationship between Mystique and Rogue...
OMG, how could you keep this from us!?!?

j/k, I totally forgot about your previous tease to this! I'm really not alarmed at all as long as he's writing an X-team book. The only solo I'd really anticipate for was Mystique, I think.

Am I right?!?!
No, the solo isn't Mystique's (at least the one he's writing, silverbulletcomicbooks' "All the Rage" had a rumor about one like a month or so ago) , but he did say that she would be around post Messiah CompleX. I'm pretty sure she's going to end up stabbing Sinister in the back to fulfill some kind of crazy agenda. And that's the way I like her. =D But then there's the whole dealio with the Marauders, they'd either kill her, or shrug their shoulders and follow her. Hmm... Mystique and the Marauders, sounds like the name of a band or something.
LOLZ. I love that Faded remembers my Chrome obsession.

Sigh.

Unfortunately I'm pretty resigned to his continued deadness. Especially as Carey seems to really like Alchemy, and he and Chrome had pretty similar powers.

Course, Chrome TOTALLY used them better, and was hot like WHOA, but hey, Im just saying. Not bitter.
Hey! I remembered your Chrome obssession too, but you weren't there to see it. I even threw in your mention of you thinking that he and Rogue should get married and have crazy skunk-haired kids together. *pouts*

Okay, I'm gonna pull an UAG.
ZOMG, when did I get to be known enough for people to start pulling a me? XD
And Nyss, that was an absolutely pathetic attempt at UAG-ness. Poser.
Well, it was a bit short, but a nice try. *is still confuzzled about having her own special posting-ness* o_O
Totally. UAGish posting must contain at least 10 quoted posts.
Hey, I get to set the criteria of how I post, not you. =P And I don't multiquote massive amounts of posts all the time, only if I haven't posted in a thread for a while, or people post a lot of stuff I wanna answer while I'm in the middle of responding to a previous post, like now. Slow down people! x_X
I know! LOL as soon as I wrote that I was like oh that's bullshit, I won't be writing that much. I'm sorry, UAG... I've disgraced our family honor.
Err... family honor? Since when/how are we related? Not that I'd mind having you in my family. =D Hehe, the honor thing sounds so Japanese-movie ish. I'm Chinese-Indonesian by ethnicity, but more Americanized than anything else. I like my french fries just as much as I like my rice. ~_^
Uh... so Rogue & Wolverine?
Pfft, I'd prefer Mystique and Wolverine any day, I really liked the Wolverine series during House of M, since it was pretty Mystique-centric, and I thought that their relationship there was pretty cool. Plus, if they hook up they could be the parents from hell for poor little Roguey. =D =D
It is ridiculous to have an anniversy issue of X-Men, then to cancel it. It's not gonna be cancelled. New X-Men will go before that book.
Are ya implyin' that Ah'm lyin', suh? Ya have insulted mah honor! *takes out dueling glove*

Okay, so maybe I should stay away from the cornball Southern stereotypes too. Sorry Brian, no offense meant. =P

Really though, I'm only saying what Mike told me. Plans could have changed since then, but that's what he told me when I met him.

Gah, and I still haven't sent Mike a "What's Up?" message... I've been meaning to since I met him 2 weeks ago. Bleh, it's almost 5 now and I gotta go offline soon, guess that'll have to wait until tomorrow.

[rwsmith]

Maybe Carey's book is like what UAG said -- an Acolytes series. HAW HAW.

Bah. That would be a waste of the man's talent. And the ten readers that would actually shell out the money for it would hardly be enough to keep it going beyond three issues.

Just messin' with ya, Nyssie.;)

[jarrod]

How do you know he's not? That's my point, man.:)
That'd be best case I think... maybe have Brubaker make Storm fund a new international X-Force with most of the Uncanny cast (Warpath, Hep, Caliban, Skids, etc) and some other X-floaters, then let Carey take over Uncanny with the leftover X-Men (Kurt, Rogue, Bobby, Sam, etc). Yes plz! :D

[Gene M.]

Maybe Carey's book is like what UAG said -- an Acolytes series. HAW HAW.
THe only way that book would sell is if they killed Frenzy and replaced her with El Thumbelino!

[Cayman]

He should write a Brotherhood series with Lady Mastermind.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Just seems so... I dunno, like such a mistake to move Carey off a core book. If anything, I'd say Brubaker should be the one moving to a new project

yes

a new project


something at DC would be good

[Beast]

I hope that Astonishing art is just sketch stuff. X-23 looks like Hisako except with claws. And if that's actual art from the new series it means everyone BUT Hisako made it back ok, and Emma doesn't have mental powers anymore but now can shoot stuff from her hands. wonderful. :rolleyes:
It's still just promo art. Don't worry.

Nice edition this week. I like that Carey pretty much stated that Cyclops and Sinister are the new 'Figureheads' of the X-Franchise. Which works, because much like Xavier and Magneto they have that personal history that is ripe for mining. But I'm glad that Xavier and Mags will continue to be important.

[rwsmith]

*Is smited* x_X But Mike asked me not to tell! =P

As for the solo/duo series, I got the gist that it wasn't going to be his main X-related project, more like a side project, since it is true that most X-Characters don't have enough popularity to hold their own for very long.

UAG, can you tell us whether Cable will be involved in this solo/duo series that Mike is writing? I heard a rumor awhile back that he was indeed going to return and get his own series, but nothing I've read from anyone at Marvel would seem to imply that that rumor is true.

It honestly seems like Beast was right and Cable is "deader than disco" (sorry, Dazzler fans).

It's still just promo art. Don't worry.

Well, CBR called it the first image from their Astonishing X-men run or something like that, which doesn't make it sound like promo art. So that's probably where the confusion comes from.

Nice edition this week. I like that Carey pretty much stated that Cyclops and Sinister are the new 'Figureheads' of the X-Franchise. Which works, because much like Xavier and Magneto they have that personal history that is ripe for mining.

I wholeheartedly agree. Cyclops and Sinister as the new Xavier and Magneto would be great IMO.

[We R. Venom]

yes

a new project


something at DC would be good

What? No way. He has done other great comics at Marvel. We must keep him!

[Gene M.]

Bianchi promo art + color = boner

[Faded]

I like my french fries just as much as I like my rice. ~_^

LoL! Best quote of the thread.

[Brian M.]

Cyclops/Sinister as the new Xavier/Magneto is great.

[kate-pryde]

What if there's some sort of AoA type of weird (temporary) shake-up or something like Avengers Disassembled of the X-titles following Messiah Complex? No alternate realities involved, but temporarily cancellations of title(s)?

Ellis said something about his run starting once there was some sort of status quo established that he could build on. Astonishing is starting back up until next summer, maybe as late as August. I'd assume a status quo would be established a few issues after Messiah Complex ends.

But it seems like the new status quo will be established in Uncanny 500, not the end of Messiah Complex.

What if Messiah Complex ends in some sort of stalemate or maybe the bad guys win, the X-Men are disbanded or at least in hiding and it isn't until Uncanny 500 that things are finally resolved?

Then Adjectiveless is relaunched with another school/teen book in Summer 08 with Ellis' Astonishing?

[Erik Lehnsherr]

4) Will Magneto make any attempt to find Polaris? Considering that his war on humanity just cost him Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch, shouldn't protecting Polaris be his priority?

I take your point, but Magneto has other priorities – somewhat wider than his own posterity – as we'll see shortly.

That's what I wanted to know. I'm glad they have a nice plan for Magneto for the rest of the year, even though it's kind of sad they won't be having him interact with Lorna no time soon. Still..him back in the forefront is great to hear.

I'm happy that he's going to have Sinister as the FIGUREHEAD basically of this story. I have waited a long time for Sinister to get another headlining story on this level and with the Acolytes staying around even after Messiah Complex finishes up, it's just gets better and better. I couldn't ask for more. Cyclops as Sinister's opposistion though? He's not really bright enough to figure out much of what someone like Sinister would put together but I trust Carey and Brubaker will work it out well where Sinister won't have to look bad to hype Cyclops up bigger than he should be.

I loved the way he answered that Jean Grey inquiry too. GREAT X-Position, Mr. Carey. You are the MVP writer of the X-books right now. I love it. And that preview page from Finch looks enticing.

[Beast]

Well, CBR called it the first image from their Astonishing X-men run or something like that, which doesn't make it sound like promo art. So that's probably where the confusion comes from.
Trust me. I can assure you that's just promo art. That isn't the cast.

[Nyssane]

I'd be happy if Magneto and Polaris never saw each other again.

And LMAO! I love you, UAG. You're hilar.

[rwsmith]

Trust me. I can assure you that's just promo art. That isn't the cast.

Oh, I believe you (though I'm not sure if you're implying that you know something the rest of us don't or you just read the same quotes I did from Warren Ellis at San Diego Comic Con). I'm just saying that's probably where the original poster's confusion came from (i.e., the fact that CBR called it the first colored piece of artwork from Ellis and Bianchi's Astonishing X-men).

[Erik Lehnsherr]

1) What's the possibility of some of the following characters playing a part in the X-universe in the next year: Warlock/Douglock, X-Man, Mimic, Husk, Joseph, Pulse, Shatterstar, Longshot, Mondo, Alchemy, Lifeguard, Slipstream, or Forge?

MCarey: Well, there are reasons why I can't be entirely specific, but your list includes four hits and nine misses. Forge is about to become pretty damn important.

Nate Grey? Could it be? Could it finally be that they are gonna bring Nate back where he belongs?! YES!

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Nate Grey? Could it be? Could it finally be that they are gonna bring Nate back where he belongs?!

On top of his mother?

[Elias Bogan]

If they let that hack Brubaker remain of Uncanny but kick Carey off of Adjectiveless and cancel it then I will be ticked. I know Axel Alonso ruined the Spider-Man titles, but he cannot possible be that stupid, can he?

[Erik Lehnsherr]

On top of his mother?

You're odd perspective continues.

Yeah, I know, I'm getting a little crazy here. I just don''t want him to leave Rogue.

And Brian, didn't Bru say he'd be still writing Uncanny after the crossover? I could swear he did.

And Brubaker isn't going anywhere. That's already confirmed.

[Brian M.]

Cyclops/Sinister is just as compelling as Xavier/Magneto. Except well Sinister isn't as big a mass murder as Magneto is.

[Kalen O.]

If they let that hack Brubaker remain of Uncanny but kick Carey off of Adjectiveless and cancel it then I will be ticked. I know Axel Alonso ruined the Spider-Man titles, but he cannot possible be that stupid, can he?

Can we please cut it out with the 'hack Brubaker' cracks? If nothing else, it implies that everyone responsible for nominating, voting for, and awarding him his Eisners and other awards is stupid for doing so as well, and I don't know that we really need to insult that many people just to express that you don't like Uncanny.

Just saying.

[Brian M.]

That's what I wanted to know. I'm glad they have a nice plan for Magneto for the rest of the year, even though it's kind of sad they won't be having him interact with Lorna no time soon. Still..him back in the forefront is great to hear.

I'm happy that he's going to have Sinister as the FIGUREHEAD basically of this story. I have waited a long time for Sinister to get another headlining story on this level and with the Acolytes staying around even after Messiah Complex finishes up, it's just gets better and better. I couldn't ask for more. Cyclops as Sinister's opposistion though? He's not really bright enough to figure out much of what someone like Sinister would put together but I trust Carey and Brubaker will work it out well where Sinister won't have to look bad to hype Cyclops up bigger than he should be.

I loved the way he answered that Jean Grey inquiry too. GREAT X-Position, Mr. Carey. You are the MVP writer of the X-books right now. I love it. And that preview page from Finch looks enticing.

Scott's a hell of a smart guy. Bigger then he should be? Boy you sure do like to bait don't you? Your an annoying little cuss, time to add one more to the list for me.

[marco19]

even though it looks like Mike CArey will have an x-men book to move to canceling x-men is a huge huge mistake.......you think marvel would have learned after they canceled xtreme x-men..that book sold in the 50 k range and both excalibur series that tried to replace it have failed miserably.......Im hoping after some of the order numbers came in for issue 200 marvel may have reconsidered canceling a book that is avergeing around 75k

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Cyclops/Sinister is just as compelling as Xavier/Magneto. Except well Sinister isn't as big a mass murder as Magneto is.

Cyclops is a top 5 most boring character in Marvel. Compelling? To maybe those who like reading that Gambit/Rogue soap opera comedy but to anyone else, he's always a fake Captain America who's not even half the leader that Storm is on his best day. Hopefully there's a twist to it because Sinister punking out Cyclops all over again will be fun to read but nothing heart stopping.

9. X-Man: Dead. Mike said the only glimpse of him we'll get is in ES where they will only mention him.

Actually the new X-Factor was indicative clue of his return.

[Gene M.]

1) What's the possibility of some of the following characters playing a part in the X-universe in the next year: Warlock/Douglock, X-Man, Mimic, Husk, Joseph, Pulse, Shatterstar, Longshot, Mondo, Alchemy, Lifeguard, Slipstream, or Forge?

MCarey: Well, there are reasons why I can't be entirely specific, but your list includes four hits and nine misses. Forge is about to become pretty damn important.
Dear Jesus,
If you are listening, I promise to stop touching myself if you could please make sure that Lifeguard and Slipstream are among the "misses" on this list.

[Alex A Sanchez]

It looks like Mike won't be writing X-Men after the crossover. :(

I'm thinking that they are going to mush 2 or 3 of the X-books into single, weekly title called Uncanny, just like they are consolidating all of the Spiderman books into a weekly version of Amazing. This new 'Uncanny' book will probably feature various stories or subplots written by 2 or three writers, featuring artists rotating by the characters (similar to X-men #200
), and will probably feature the cast of the current Uncanny book, Mike's X-men book, and the New X-men (since these are all of the characters living in the X-mansion).

Personally, I'd buy it, considering that I currently buy all 4 of the main titles as it is. Its the same difference to me. Plus, we would get to see a lot of creative characters interaction and mini-teams.


Okay the four hits are:

1. Forge!! : He's a genius. The X-Men need him now...

2. Husk: Carey has said he wants her

3. Mimic: I don't know why but I get this vibe he's coming back.

4. Pulse: Because the fans demanded it!!!:)

Well, according to the ES chapter in the latest X-Factor issue (#22), it is possible to put Nate Summer (X-man) back together again. I'm expecting him to be one of the 4, regardless of what Mike told us in the past.

[Kalen O.]

Cyclops is a top 5 most boring character in Marvel. Compelling? To maybe those who like reading that Gambit/Rogue soap opera comedy but to anyone else, he's always a fake Captain America who's not even half the leader that Storm is on his best day. Hopefully there's a twist to it because Sinister punking out Cyclops all over again will be fun to read but nothing heart stopping.

OMFG people, your OPINIONS ARE NOT FACT. Not liking Cyclops does not make him the most boring character at Marvel anymore than liking Magneto makes him ZOMGTHEGREATESTEVAR. Everyone has their faves, everyone's entitled to like their faves and everyone's tolerated for espousing their faves' greatness to anyone and everyone who'll listen, but STOP with the lame-ass 'I JUDGE you for liking so and so'-ness.

Its so BORING!

Ugh.

Sides. Iceman is a hundred times greater than everyone else's favorites.

FACT.

[We R. Venom]

Cyclops is a top 5 most boring character in Marvel. Compelling? To maybe those who like reading that Gambit/Rogue soap opera comedy but to anyone else, he's always a fake Captain America who's not even half the leader that Storm is on his best day. Hopefully there's a twist to it because Sinister punking out Cyclops all over again will be fun to read but nothing heart stopping.



Actually the new X-Factor was indicative clue of his return.

What do Rogue and Gambit have anything to do with Cyke? Their story/ies has/have no bearing over why someone would like cyclops at all.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

What do Rogue and Gambit have anything to do with Cyke? Their story/ies has/have no bearing over why someone would like cyclops at all.

PFFF


I like Cyclops mostly because he isnt gambit

[Brian M.]

PFFF


I like Cyclops mostly because he isnt gambit

I thought it was becuase he came from the one true sperm...that of Corsair.

[Hi-Fi]

OMFG people, your OPINIONS ARE NOT FACT. Not liking Cyclops does not make him the most boring character at Marvel anymore than liking Magneto makes him ZOMGTHEGREATESTEVAR. Everyone has their faves, everyone's entitled to like their faves and everyone's tolerated for espousing their faves' greatness to anyone and everyone who'll listen, but STOP with the lame-ass 'I JUDGE you for liking so and so'-ness.

Its so BORING!

Ugh.

Sides. Iceman is a hundred times greater than everyone else's favorites.

FACT.
Arguing with someone who thinks it's ok for Magneto to be a mass murderer?

Oh, Kalen!

[Hi-Fi]

And are you freaking kidding me, Marvel??

[Gene M.]

And are you freaking kidding me, Marvel??
Yes. Yes they are.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Scott's a hell of a smart guy. Bigger then he should be? Boy you sure do like to bait don't you? Your an annoying little cuss, time to add one more to the list for me.


Bait? I don't even really know you. Cyclops has been useless for what? The last 7 years? The guy hasn't done nothing since Twelve and it took Cable of all people to get him out of that mess. The best news about this whole thing is that Sinister is headlining and we get tons more of the Acolytes after the crossover. That's reason to celebrate. Not to mention the seeds of Magneto's next big move are just barely beginning to sprout.:evilsmile

I never condoned mass murder. You guys put that stuff in my mouth. Magneto is a revolutionary. The reason mutants like Exodus and Cargill are going strong today. Their faith in him is legendary. No other mutant in history inspires on that level. Period. Whether anyone likes it or not.

What do Rogue and Gambit have anything to do with Cyke? Their story/ies has/have no bearing over why someone would like cyclops at all.

Well the Rogue/Gambit story is played out. It always was. That's why people were in favor of Gambit becoming a villian for awhile. He was sucking the air out of all the Rogue appearances. Cyclops? The guy hasn't been pivotal in who knows how long. I have faith Carey can carry the character with some sense of bravado and worth this time around though.

[Slant]

I like Cyclops mostly because he isnt gambit

They both rock. :)

[Erik Lehnsherr]

OMFG people, your OPINIONS ARE NOT FACT. Not liking Cyclops does not make him the most boring character at Marvel anymore than liking Magneto makes him ZOMGTHEGREATESTEVAR. Everyone has their faves, everyone's entitled to like their faves and everyone's tolerated for espousing their faves' greatness to anyone and everyone who'll listen, but STOP with the lame-ass 'I JUDGE you for liking so and so'-ness.

Its so BORING!

Ugh.

Sides. Iceman is a hundred times greater than everyone else's favorites.

FACT.

You're a little testy this time around. It's all good. Sinister is back. That's what matters.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I thought it was becuase he came from the one true sperm...that of Corsair.

Well that ties into him not being Gambit

I'd say


Plus Cyclops cant catch bullets with his bare hands

[We R. Venom]

Well that ties into him not being Gambit

I'd say


Plus Cyclops cant catch bullets with his bare hands

I just love that to death. Gots tah see a scan.

[Faded]

On top of his mother?

Oh burn.

Like a rash.

Cyclops/Sinister is just as compelling as Xavier/Magneto. Except well Sinister isn't as big a mass murder as Magneto is.

I don't think Sinister is really a good replacement, to be honest. I really hope they build up one of the key players on the 'other side' to be as strong--ideologically--perhaps Mystique and maybemaybemaybe Exodus (if Carey can really work that magic and make him workwork make him work) as Magneto is.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Mystique being the ideologically strong one??

Field leader barking orders, yes. Anything to do with ideology and being looked up to, no.

[Slant]

Yeah, she's always been more about herself, than something along the lines of Magneto.

Sinister's awesome though, if only for the creepiness in nearly everything he does. Plus I like his interactions with Cyclops, Gambit, Cable and the like.

[Dagger]

Mystique being the ideologically strong one??

Field leader barking orders, yes. Anything to do with ideology and being looked up to, no.
In your opinion, but Mystique has done alot to further her own agenda for mutantkind. She was the one who masterminded the BoEM to become the first gov't sponsored mutant relations team in Freedom Force.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

In your opinion, but Mystique has done alot to further her own agenda for mutantkind. She was the one who masterminded the BoEM to become the first gov't sponsored mutant relations team in Freedom Force.

Masterminding and scheming from the shadows doesn't exactly scream 'ideological strength'. Kinda the opposite, actually.

Look at the Hellfire Club. Powerful mofos yet cowardly wretches. Their lackeys follow for the results, not the inspiring leadership during.

[Slant]

Its more than just that though. Its the 'looking up to part'. I don't think her character has been about that.

Magneto is more or less clear cut, while Mystique motives are always in question, and kept close to herself. Thats why I can't really see her stepping up in that way, mostly because thats not how she operates, not in that sense.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Its more than just that though. Its the 'looking up to part'.

Sort of what I was going for with the 'not being actual ideological strength' motif.

If there's none to start with, the baddies sure as hell won't look up at her/anyone.

[Dagger]

Eh, it's debateable. Both Magneto and Xavier have used shady methods to achieve their goals, they just keep their methods on the DL. She's just more open about doing whatever it takes, and likes to keep it on the cuff so others cant' guess what her next move is going to be.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

This isn't about whether she's good at it or not.

Hell, I *love* that blue-skinned back-stabbing murderous nutjob.

Still, short of the clueless punks from the old Brotherhood, she wasn't exactly looked up to for her 'ideas'. More about how she is a freakin psycho that gets things done.

[rilokyle]

I just LOVE that Bianchi cover! Emma looks gorgeous.

The Finch cover was alright- Angel looks good... but the rest of the image was only so-so. Finch can do better.

[Euks]

I just LOVE that Bianchi cover! Emma looks gorgeous.

The Finch cover was alright- Angel looks good... but the rest of the image was only so-so. Finch can do better.

Nobody seems to mind that Wolverine has freaking katanas coming out of his arms. They're supposed to be able to retract into his forearms. Those claws are as long as his entire arm. I think I'm a bigger fan of the Finch cover, but the background doesn't really match up to the quality of the characters.

I'd be very sad to see them flat out cancel X-men. I haven't been this excited over it in a long time, and while it might be nice to go out with a bang, I'd hate to see it go out at all. Uncanny X-men has the far weaker story (imo) yet still somehow manages the higher sales. I do agree with trying to cut down the number of X-books, especially those titled "X-men". There's just far too much going on to keep track of, both for the readers and the editors who have to piece together three or four separate stories in continuity. I think the X-editors have been doing a good job lately, so I'll just have to trust their decisions in which series are going to go on.

Speaking of MC, has it ever been said if the mutant baby's powers were at all part of the conflict? Or is it just the fact that it's a new mutant?

[Anna]

The answer to my question didn't ease my mind.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Well, according to the ES chapter in the latest X-Factor issue (#22), it is possible to put Nate Summer (X-man) back together again. I'm expecting him to be one of the 4, regardless of what Mike told us in the past.

Well look...there is someone paying attention to the clues.

I don't think Sinister is really a good replacement, to be honest. I really hope they build up one of the key players on the 'other side' to be as strong--ideologically--perhaps Mystique and maybemaybemaybe Exodus (if Carey can really work that magic and make him workwork make him work) as Magneto is.

The thing about Sinister is that he's a consistent winner. If anyone can keep the X-teams on their toes on a yearly basis, it's Sinister. And Exodus getting pushed as a top tier is always great news. I wouldn't mind seeing him venture off into the Avengers portion of things as well.

Eh, it's debateable. Both Magneto and Xavier have used shady methods to achieve their goals, they just keep their methods on the DL. She's just more open about doing whatever it takes, and likes to keep it on the cuff so others cant' guess what her next move is going to be.

Mystique is open yet Magneto and Xavier are shady in their methods? Mystique has never progressed mutantkind in any form. Ever. She's one of the most selfish mutants of all time. She abandoned her son without second thought, she has never politically helped mutantkind on a large scale, and she usually hides like a coward.

[Euks]

The thing about Sinister is that he's a consistent winner. If anyone can keep the X-teams on their toes on a yearly basis, it's Sinister. And Exodus getting pushed as a top tier is always great news. I wouldn't mind seeing him venture off into the Avengers portion of things as well.

The problem I've always had with Sinister is his powers are very vaguely defined. By my last count, he's immortal, has complete cellular control over his body to the extent that nothing can hurt him, is a powerful enough telepath to avoid being taken down by that kind of attack, and has a genius level intellect. At that point there's no tension or conflict should he ever get into an actual battle with the X-men. I'm sure Carey will write him in an interesting way, but the problem is with his powers set up the way they are, I'm not sure if he could technically could be beaten.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

The problem I've always had with Sinister is his powers are very vaguely defined. By my last count, he's immortal, has complete cellular control over his body to the extent that nothing can hurt him, is a powerful enough telepath to avoid being taken down by that kind of attack, and has a genius level intellect. At that point there's no tension or conflict should he ever get into an actual battle with the X-men. I'm sure Carey will write him in an interesting way, but the problem is with his powers set up the way they are, I'm not sure if he could technically could be beaten.

I've always kept up with his powers. So it was no big deal for one like me. It's right there on Marvel.com and anyone who saw the cartoon saw his bulk as well.

Superstrength, immortality, shape shifting, concussive blasts, Tesseract teleportation, mind control, energy conducting, and regeneration. He's a natural genius of the highest level considering there is no geneticist on earth that ranks higher than him.

And should he be beaten? Is there reason to beat him? Sinister always has a way out. That's another underappreciated greatness of the character.

[Euks]

I've always kept up with his powers. So it was no big deal for one like me. It's right there on Marvel.com and anyone who saw the cartoon saw his bulk as well.

Superstrength, immortality, shape shifting, concussive blasts, Tesseract teleportation, mind control, energy conducting, and regeneration. He's a natural genius of the highest level considering there is no geneticist on earth that ranks higher than him.

And should he be beaten? Is there reason to beat him? Sinister always has a way out. That's another underappreciated greatness of the character.

Well his powers always seem to be changing, so just listing everything you've seen of him doesn't really make them less vague. Here's the first line in the powers section of his wikipedia entry: "Mister Sinister possesses superhuman powers which have been depicted inconsistently and include immortality, durability, shapeshifting and limited psionic ability."

But assuming he does have all these powers, how does that make him an interesting character? Everybody seems to hate Sentry because there's no limit to his power. Infallible characters, no matter how good or evil they are, never make for an interesting story to me.

[Nyssane]

I agree, powers don't make the character. That's why Exodus is like... *yawn* Sure, he's hella powerful, but he has nothing that appealing with his personality.

[Slung]

Oh, Jean...come back to us.

Make it happen Mr. Carey. Make. It. Happen. Please!

[Slung]

TWO For the Price of ONE!

WHAT A DEAL!

[steve2275]

that art is fug
i have to agree
finch is slipping

[Elias Bogan]

Can we please cut it out with the 'hack Brubaker' cracks? If nothing else, it implies that everyone responsible for nominating, voting for, and awarding him his Eisners and other awards is stupid for doing so as well, and I don't know that we really need to insult that many people just to express that you don't like Uncanny.

Just saying.


They gave him an award for his writing?!? They might aswell give one to Chuck Austen too while they are at it.

Seriously, Mike Carey has revolutionized the X-Men and is the best writer on this title since Joe Kelly way back in 1997. Sales for # 200 were amazing and his fanbase is growing daily. If they shunt him over to X-Force or something like that and allow Brubaker and his sinking sales to remain on Uncanny than Quesada and Alonso really are that dumb.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Well his powers always seem to be changing, so just listing everything you've seen of him doesn't really make them less vague. Here's the first line in the powers section of his wikipedia entry: "Mister Sinister possesses superhuman powers which have been depicted inconsistently and include immortality, durability, shapeshifting and limited psionic ability."

But assuming he does have all these powers, how does that make him an interesting character? Everybody seems to hate Sentry because there's no limit to his power. Infallible characters, no matter how good or evil they are, never make for an interesting story to me.

Wikipedia is not Marvel.com. Wikipedia gets changed by kids who are irritated. It's not the bible or anything.

Sinister is great because he's the genius who always gets the last laugh. He's not Magneto or Exodus powerful but no one is gonna be slapping him around. He's a prep time villian more than anything. That's his real strength. Always was.

Sentry doesn't lose. Looks unstoppable. He's a fake Superman which is the WORST thing you can be in comics. Sinister is Sinister. The best manipulator in Marvel.:evilsmile

[Brian M.]

They gave him an award for his writing?!? They might aswell give one to Chuck Austen too while they are at it.

Seriously, Mike Carey has revolutionized the X-Men and is the best writer on this title since Joe Kelly way back in 1997. Sales for # 200 were amazing and his fanbase is growing daily. If they shunt him over to X-Force or something like that and allow Brubaker and his sinking sales to remain on Uncanny than Quesada and Alonso really are that dumb.

I like Mike Carey, but the sales on #200 were also due to 3 different versions of the cover, the anniversy issue and the beginning of Endangered species.

Brubaker is an amazing artist, while I'll admit his Uncanny isn't a Captain America or Daredevil, it's still better then we've had on the title for 5 years. Try showing a little bit of class when talking about folks you don't know.

[rwsmith]

Seriously. Brubaker is an amazing writer, and even if you haven't really been enjoying his X-men run, comparing him to Chuck Austen just makes you sound like an idiot.

I like what Mike Carey's been doing with his X-men book for the most part, but some of his die-hard supporters are starting to get as annoying as the die-hard Claremont crowd IMO.

And, no, I'm not comparing Mike to CC. Just their respective fanbases. The hardcore ones, anyway (because I do consider myself to be a Carey fan as well, just one of the non-deluded ones).

[TinMan]

Oh, Jean...come back to us.

Make it happen Mr. Carey. Make. It. Happen. Please!If they do, I want her to either be stripped of the Phoenix and put back with the X-Men or she needs to go off and do cosmic stuff. Having a character that's supposed to be a "Primal force of nature" simply hanging around Earth battling for mutant rights is pretty dumb.

i have to agree
finch is slippingBased upon one drawing you come to this conclusion? Have you seen his WWH covers? Or the cover to X-Men #200? None of those exhibited any form of "slipping". Really, basing that opinion of one drawing really is stretching.

I like Mike Carey, but the sales on #200 were also due to 3 different versions of the cover, the anniversy issue and the beginning of Endangered species.

Brubaker is an amazing artist, while I'll admit his Uncanny isn't a Captain America or Daredevil, it's still better then we've had on the title for 5 years. Try showing a little bit of class when talking about folks you don't know.
Agreed, I think Bru just needs to find his "team voice" a bit more. He's great with the single character and crime/noir stuff, he just needs to refine his group stuff a little more and I'm sure he'll be