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lukababic
08-09-2007, 09:55 AM
In Batman Year 100 (illustrated by Paul Pope) we see Captain Gordon who is descendant of the Jim Gordon, and it is logical since the storyline is in the future. But Batman and Robin are not descendants of their past incarnations, they are THE Batman and Robin... and at one point some character said: "how could this be, he must be 100 years old!?" Another thing is when Batman goes to destroy his blood sample down at the lab, and he opens a cabinet and finds dozens of blood samples marked in some kind a cypher? What is the story behind these samples, and how could Bruce Wayne be so young, if he is really Bruce Wayne...
Did Jean Giraud (aka Moebius) ever made a Batman comic, except for the one page in the Batman: Black and White?
I have never been interested much in the Black Canary and Huntress characters (until All-Star Batman), but what is the story with them, what is their connection to the Batman? I know Huntress became Bat-girl in No Man's Land, but this story is non canonical, right? And one of them was his daughter in some parallel universe at Earth###?
There was the Suicide Squad comic book and it involved Batman and other superheroes like Superman, Aquaman... what became of this comic book, and where is its place in the DC universe?
Did anyone notice in All-Star Batman that Bruce Wayne was clean shaved when he went out with Vicky Vale, and then when he put on the costume (only few moments later) he had that shabby tough-guy beard? :)
How the hell did he managed to recover from broken spine, and in witch issue did Bane did this to him? Oh, and also, when and how did Azrael died?
Did Wonder Woman and Batman ever had a relation of any kind in any sort of Batman and/or Wonder Woman publication? I was looking for a trailer of the Dark Knight on you tube and stumbled across, like, 50 or more videos of WW/Bat "tributes" in all sort of emo styles...
In the upcoming Dark Knight, there is definitely the Joker as the main villain, but Scarecrow is also there... are there any other villains who will be in this movie?
Oh, also, i forgot why did Bruce Wayne's good (and probably the only) childhood friend became to be the Hush?!? What did Bruce did to piss him off?
If Bruce is such a playboy, how come non of his playgirls noticed the sh**load of scars on his body? And over sized burly physique, he is almost big like the Hulk!
How many sequels do they plan to film after the Begins, i mean, did anyone of the cast and/or crew signed up for more than one sequel?
Choppa
08-09-2007, 10:45 AM
I can answer the ones that I know-
I have never been interested much in the Black Canary and Huntress characters (until All-Star Batman), but what is the story with them, what is their connection to the Batman? I know Huntress became Bat-girl in No Man's Land, but this story is non canonical, right? And one of them was his daughter in some parallel universe at Earth###?
Black Canary, Huntress, and Oracle are a group of crime fighters that call themselves the Birds of Prey. The book is an offshoot of Batman.
Huntress was temporarilly a "batgirl" in NML, which is in continuity, by putting on a tailored Batman costume. Eventually Cassandra Cain took the suit and became Batgirl until recently.
How the hell did he managed to recover from broken spine, and in witch issue did Bane did this to him? Oh, and also, when and how did Azrael died?
His black girlfriend Shondra turned out to have some kind of enhanced mental abilities, and she used them to heal Bruce. It also casued her to regress to the mental state of a child, though it's said in "HUSH" that she "got better."
Did Wonder Woman and Batman ever had a relation of any kind in any sort of Batman and/or Wonder Woman publication? I was looking for a trailer of the Dark Knight on you tube and stumbled across, like, 50 or more videos of WW/Bat "tributes" in all sort of emo styles...
These are the only two stories w/Batman and Wonder Woman that I know of-
http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=1463
http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=3750
In the upcoming Dark Knight, there is definitely the Joker as the main villain, but Scarecrow is also there... are there any other villains who will be in this movie?
Eric Robertson is playing one of the mafia members from Year One (?), and there are rumors that Oswald Cobblepot will be in it, and Harvey might become Two-Face at some point, probably the end though. That's all I know.
Oh, also, i forgot why did Bruce Wayne's good (and probably the only) childhood friend became to be the Hush?!? What did Bruce did to piss him off?
Thomas Elliot wanted his parents to die so that he would collect his inheritance, but Bruce's dad saved one of them and delayed that. He was jealous that Bruce's parents died and he got rich. Or something like that...
If Bruce is such a playboy, how come non of his playgirls noticed the sh**load of scars on his body? And over sized burly physique, he is almost big like the Hulk!
Pick One-
1. It's a comic book
2. He had scars in HUSH, but that's because Loeb wrote it that way, some other writer could just as easily say that he doesn't have them
3. We don't know for sure what he's doing with these 'playgirls,' that's also up to the writer
How many sequels do they plan to film after the Begins, i mean, did anyone of the cast and/or crew signed up for more than one sequel?
AFAIK, there will be three in total and Chris Nolan, Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman, and Christian Bale will be in all three.
Lorendiac
08-09-2007, 10:49 AM
I won't try to tackle the entire list -- heck, I haven't even read "Batman Year 100" yet -- but I'll share my understanding on a few of the questions you raised.
I have never been interested much in the Black Canary and Huntress characters (until All-Star Batman), but what is the story with them, what is their connection to the Batman? I know Huntress became Bat-girl in No Man's Land, but this story is non canonical, right? And one of them was his daughter in some parallel universe at Earth###?
Black Canary and Batman have known each other for a long time because they have served together in the Justice League at various times. She knows his secret identity, evidently. But as far as I know, there's never been any really close connection between them (such as dating each other, or family ties, or Batman having personally trained her in some fancy fighting discipline, or whatever.)
As far as I know: all the events of "No Man's Land" are still canonical. I've never heard of any DC editors of the last several years saying anything different. As you mention: during that year-long event in the Bat-titles, Helena Bertinelli, the girl who had already been calling herself Huntress for about a decade (from our point of view), did dress up in a Batgirl costume for awhile -- without asking Batman's permission first -- but later Batman got mad at her (I forget exactly why -- I think she had failed to singlehandedly accomplish some impossible task and he decided she just wasn't the right material to wear a Bat-costume) and so he finally insisted she quit wearing it. Soon after that, Batman let Cassandra Cain start wearing the same costume.
The Post-Crisis version of the Huntress is Helena Bertinelli, an orphaned Mafia princess who decided to dress up in a purple costume and fight crime. Batman had nothing to do with her origin story when it was published almost 20 years ago, but he's worked with her several times. She actually started out in New York City but later moved to Gotham for some reason and then she started running into him more often. He has sometimes tried to get her to act more like him, but he usually fails. At one point --back around the late 1990s -- Batman had her kicked out of the JLA after he caught her apparently trying to beat a prisoner to death. (Prometheus, who had done nasty things to her, previously.) So you can see it's an uneasy social relationship they have.
The Pre-Crisis Huntress (late 70s to mid-80s) was Helena Wayne, the daughter of the "Golden Age" Batman and the "Golden Age" Catwoman, who had eventually gotten married on the Pre-Crisis Earth-2 where most of DC's "first generation" heroes from the 1930s and 1940s lived. That Huntress was a level-headed young woman who followed in her father's heroic footsteps until she died during "Crisis on Infinite Earths" in 1985. Then she (and her parents) got completely erased from continuity in the Post-Crisis version of the DCU, so that nobody remembered her anymore in the comics. I still miss her.
How the hell did he managed to recover from broken spine, and in witch issue did Bane did this to him? Oh, and also, when and how did Azrael died?
Bane broke Batman's spine at the end of a fight in "Batman #497." It's collected in the TPB "Batman: Knightfall, Part One: Broken Bat."
Bruce Wayne spent a long time in a wheelchair after that, and finally -- about a year later from our point of view (probably just a month or two from his perspective) got a Psychic Miracle Cure from a lady named Shondra Kinsolving in "Legends of the Dark Knight #61." As far as I know, that story has never been reprinted in any TPB collection.
Jean Paul Valley, Azrael, died in the last issue of his own series: "Azrael #100." I'm pretty sure that one (like most of his series) has never been reprinted either! I haven't read it, but if you run searches for "Azrael #100" in Google you can probably find somebody's summary of exactly how he died. (I've read a summary, but I've long since forgotten the details.)
The Zapper
08-09-2007, 10:50 AM
An issue of Detective Comics showed that Bruce never sleeps with any of those "playgirls".
4thHorseman
08-09-2007, 10:56 AM
How the hell did he managed to recover from broken spine, and in witch issue did Bane did this to him? Oh, and also, when and how did Azrael died?
Looks like you were helped with many of the others. He got his back broken in issue Batman 497, and recovered when his love interest Shondra fights her brother and somehow heals his back with her mental powers. He continues to rehabilitate himself training and getting better and back in shape while Jean Paul poses as Batman.
Azrael dies by being shot, though the body is never found
Corrina
08-09-2007, 11:17 AM
Black Canary is originally a Gotham Girl--her parents, Dinah & Larry Lance, operated out of Gotham. Though I don't know if that's a relatively new thing or was always there.
As for Batman One Hundred, I loved the story but it was not the clearest in how Batman had survived so many years.
Choppa
08-09-2007, 07:27 PM
At the end of Azrael #100, Jean Paul confronts Charleton Lehah in his apartment mirroring the way his father did the same thing in the first issue 'Sword of Azrael.' He is shot like his father and falls out of the window. As was said, no body was found, and in the end Bruce has a dream that Jean Paul tells him that he has no hard feelings.
Mr Blinky
08-10-2007, 05:28 PM
Did Wonder Woman and Batman ever had a relation of any kind in any sort of Batman and/or Wonder Woman publication? I was looking for a trailer of the Dark Knight on you tube and stumbled across, like, 50 or more videos of WW/Bat "tributes" in all sort of emo styles...
Well, the makers of the Justice League cartoon liked to occasionally hint at a Batman/WW romance, so that probably explains the Youtube tributes.
As for comics, I think the idea was only explored in the J.L.A.: Bats and Wondy kiss once during the Obsidian Age arc, sensing, I think, that they're both about to die.
In a later issue, they actually have a go at a real, no-fooling relationship, but ultimately decide against it, their respective missions getting in the way. Though we do get to see some of the various, possible timelines in which they do hook up, and produce a really freakin' violent daughter...
If Bruce is such a playboy, how come non of his playgirls noticed the sh**load of scars on his body? And over sized burly physique, he is almost big like the Hulk!
IIRC, in Venom, Alfred is forced to bring in outside help to tend to Bruce's latest injuries, and tells the doctor in question that they were caused by master Wayne, "falling out of a hot-air balloon, and landing on a table of cheese blintzes", a story that is "too ridiculous not to be believed". Since then, I just figured Bruce spreads the rumour that he takes part in extreme sports, to cover up any further wounding.
And the physique thing? Artistic licence. Sometimes he's just drawn way too big. See the 'Batman work-out thread' for more details. He would have a good build, but most people probably attribute that to Bruce's vanity.
lukababic
08-11-2007, 04:25 PM
So you say that in JLA Bat and WW not only kiss, but share a relationship for a short time? Interesting... well, I just remembered a scene from the Blues Brothers movie, when the Nazis fall down in their car and just before they crash one of them said to another: I've always loved you... :)
Since i haven't read the Obsidian story arc, i guess this is how it was like: "...you now Diana, before we die, i have to tell you something... suck on my tongue!"
I just looked up on the coverbrowser.com, that issue was like, in 96? Can anyone post a scanned page of that (probably) awesome scene?
You know, for a guy who is uber smart, trained in every single martial art and can handle every situation on his own, he has a lot of sidekicks! Thats just an observation...
Oh, and what about the "suicide squad", what was Batman's role in that series? I own only one issue that i bought ages ago, everyone fights everyone and at the end they are all at the same briefing? And they have a "boss"??? Strange...
I was going to buy new Confidential, but before i went to the store i only saw a tiny preview thumbnail on the DC's website... when i actually looked at the cover at the store i was... well, stunned. How can DC afford to themselves to have a series on their best selling character drawn that crappy!?!
Oh yeah, if the Bat has a lead plated cowl to protect him from the x-ray vision, how come every time he grims his face his cowl fits his expression perfectly? :) His head must weigh like a hundred tons...
I was wondering, beside the movies where batman actually uses his cape to protect himself from fire, ice and to reveal a portable flying mechanism... what is its use in the comics? He uses graple to "fly", has kevlar and other stuff for body armor, uses his "red laser defroster" to melts down the ice... there hasn't been much use of his cape in the comics hasn;t it? I've heard there is a site that "remakes" superheroes costumes, does anyone knows which it is, or even better: do you have an alternative batman suit design?
mattx110
08-11-2007, 09:51 PM
And the physique thing? Artistic licence. Sometimes he's just drawn way too big. See the 'Batman work-out thread' for more details. He would have a good build, but most people probably attribute that to Bruce's vanity.
some people say superman should look like a weightlifter with massive muscles while bruce should be more human and agile.
but superman is kryptonian with powers and probably doesn't need much muscle mass to complete his everyday activites, and bruce spends most of his time climbing, fighting and working on cars. if anyone has a right to be all bulked up it's him.
oh, and he races street cars, skis, skydives and does every other dangerous thing, but i think somewhere there might be a tally of the "Cars master bruce crashed". it's in the thousands.
and i don't think bruce ever liked the suicide squad. something about mercenary heroes who were often villians would rub him the wrong way. but i'm pretty sure it's a good book fromt he 80s/90s that you should pick up if you see it. in an issue of justice league, while uncovering some corruption and supervilliany in russia the suicide squad show up. batman treats everyone but j'onn like a child a bit.
and the cowl changes depening on the artist. jim lee likes to give him a specific angry looking brow, but when he's surpised or angry sometimes it'll change. but hey, if anyone would put the money into an animatronic mask that mimics his emotion under less than an inch of lead plating with switchable x-ray and infrared lenses plus defensive measure in case he's knocked out, it's bruce.
and sometimes the cape is like a fire blanket, or has an exoskeleton to go all glidy, but it's usually silk, and does what the wind wants it to, and is just there for show and to obscure his appearance in gunfire.
and about the scars bruce's favorite trick is to act absent-minded "well, y'know i never noticed that cut, must've taken a tumble on the slopes... sort of lose track of where i am sometimes, such a shallow existence and all"
Captain Jim
08-12-2007, 12:41 PM
I was going to buy new Confidential, but before i went to the store i only saw a tiny preview thumbnail on the DC's website... when i actually looked at the cover at the store i was... well, stunned. How can DC afford to themselves to have a series on their best selling character drawn that crappy!?!
If you're talking about the current issue, Denys Cowen has a stylized approach, but many people like it a lot. That particular cover wasn't my favorite, but I liked his interior work.
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