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Dagger

08-05-2007, 04:44 PM

I absolutely loved the X-books in the 90's! My favorite part of the 90's were a bunch of the villain groups that popped up in the x-books that had sooo many interesting characters! My all time favorite groups were The Acolytes, and the Upstarts! They were the 90's version of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants and Hellfire Club imo, and made the X-verse much more interesting by bringing in new blood for the X-Men to have to face against, instead of battling against Magz take #522.

Brian "Vash" Ashby

08-05-2007, 04:51 PM

i went with Hell's Belle's because as i recall they are in the worst issue of X-men ever, X-men 105, and thus deserve special recognition

Flight

08-05-2007, 04:57 PM

The Nasty Boy's.

Dagger

08-05-2007, 05:01 PM

i went with Hell's Belle's because as i recall they are in the worst issue of X-men ever, X-men 105, and thus deserve special recognition
Not those Hell's Belle's, the Hell's Belle's that PAD created for X-Factor, with Rhapsody, and Flambe'!

Brian "Vash" Ashby

08-05-2007, 05:07 PM

were they different?

the idea of 2 teams with that silly name astounds me

xmanson

08-05-2007, 05:10 PM

The ones from 105 are the Iropn Miadens, IIRC.

I like the Nasty Boys.

And Upstarts too, mainly for Siena Blaze.

Brian "Vash" Ashby

08-05-2007, 05:12 PM

oh god

you're right

thats even worse

Iron Maidens

Ever copy of that issue needs to be burned...

that an the issue with Corsair's death

Faded

08-05-2007, 05:13 PM

Thanks for making it multiple choice, Dagg! Its definitely the Acolytes for me, but I wanted to give love to the others too.

NUMBER ONE: The Acolytes. I just love the Fall of Avalon, it ranks up there as one of my favorite stories, I loved "Sanctuary", I even loved an Alan Davis penned appearance of them in X-Men! Oh and I liked an Excalibur(!!) issue with Unuscione and Scanner visiting Colossus on Frenzy's request.

I liked them at the time but I've enjoyed even more tracing back my steps to them now. They just seem really troubled and part of me loves seeing them on the edge of reformity and part of me loves that they never really make it through.

I love crazy bitches.

SECOND: MLF. I think my favorite issue of the MLF is their appearance in X-Factor (Nyssy <3) followed by their appearances I THINK during O:ZT in JFM's Road Trip/Pollina era. They were just a fun, sometimes goofy (agggh I love Thumbelina now) that really popped on the page. Again like the Acolytes some of the members have had opportunities to switch sides but ultimately didn't, but it brings up for possiblities in the future.

THIRD: Nasty Boys & Hell's Belles. They weren't really characters I thought had longevity, but I enjoyed the stories they were in when PAD was on the first X-Factor. I particularly think that the Hell's Belles could become clients of the team again, but Nyssy said PAD hates them or something so that's unlikely.

Dagger

08-05-2007, 05:22 PM

I also really, really loved Shinobi's version of the Hellfire Club, with Benazir Kaur, Reeva Payge(loves this name), and Benedict Kine. I would have loved to see some other members. Some of my favorite issues of Nic's X-Men was the Annual with them in it, and the issue where Shinobi tries to 'recruit' Warren and Betsy. Absolutely brilliant issues, with some eye dropping gorgeous art! Andy Kubert at his best! (DAMN IT1!! I should have had them instead of the Reavers!!! How LAME AM I??? ((Answer: Very:p)))

My favorite Acolytes story was the Fall From Avalon where Cyke led them in the outback! I just fell in looooooooove with Scan-Scan in that issue, and always felt jaded(bitter) that she never got the chance to join up with the X-Men. Of all the Acolytes, she and Neophyte were the one's I always saw changing sides! Plus Uncanny 300 was like, my single favorite issue EVAR!!! So much story, and pretty, pretty JR Jr. art! Ahh, how I miss Nic and Lobdell's X-Men. Sigh:)

DDM

08-05-2007, 05:33 PM

The Reavers are not a 90's villain group since they debuted in Uncanny X-Men #229 in 1988!

Brian M.

08-05-2007, 05:33 PM

The Marvel Editors!!!

Brian "Vash" Ashby

08-05-2007, 05:34 PM

The Marvel Editors!!!

Yes!
*high five*

DDM

08-05-2007, 05:34 PM

i went with Hell's Belle's because as i recall they are in the worst issue of X-men ever, X-men 105, and thus deserve special recognition

The Hell's Belle's debuted in X-Factor. I think you're thinking of the Twisted Sisters.

JBKWaka

08-05-2007, 05:36 PM

The Hell's Belle's debuted in X-Factor. I think you're thinking of the Twisted Sisters.
Volume 1 with the original 5 right?

Brian "Vash" Ashby

08-05-2007, 05:36 PM

The Hell's Belle's debuted in X-Factor. I think you're thinking of the Twisted Sisters.

Oh god

i think i am

Its like the name keeps getting worse and worse

Hell's Belle's
Iron Maidens
Twisted sisters

CmX

08-05-2007, 05:38 PM

None of the above.

Dagger

08-05-2007, 05:43 PM

The Reavers are not a 90's villain group since they debuted in Uncanny X-Men #229 in 1988!
But their greatest appearance was in the 90's. In Uncanny 281, when they all DIED!!!!

Oh yeah, I went there:p I know, I just was trying to think of 90's villains groups to fill up my slots, and I forgot to put in Shinobi's Hellfire Club. No big.

Nyssane

08-05-2007, 05:45 PM

I love them ALL!!!

The Acolytes win, because they had the best members and the most interesting stories. Second, the Nasty Boys, if only because their roles in the X-Men Animated Series were BOMB. Third, the MLF, because it had Thumbelina! Fourth, the Dark Riders, because I loved Hurricane. Fifth, the Reavers, because I had a weird attraction to Reese, and I loved Cylla. Sixth, the Upstarts, because Shinobi, Siena, and Trevor are sexy.

CmX

08-05-2007, 05:45 PM

But their greatest appearance was in the 90's. In Uncanny 281, when they all DIED!!!!

Oh yeah, I went there:p I know, I just was trying to think of 90's villains groups to fill up my slots, and I forgot to put in Shinobi's Hellfire Club. No big.

Oh snap you just got issue referenced by DDM!!!!!

DDM

08-05-2007, 05:46 PM

Volume 1 with the original 5 right?

No. Peter David's X-Factor starring Havok, Polaris, Strong Guy, Multiple Man, Wolfsbane, & Quicksilver.

The original X-Factor has far less humor in the stories itself with more serious villains.

Dagger

08-05-2007, 05:51 PM

Oh snap you just got issue referenced by DDM!!!!!
I think it should be a bigger deal when you can't get issue refrenced by DDM than anything! I dont' think I see many posts of his without some issue bolded:p

Dagger

08-05-2007, 05:52 PM

Nyssane

08-05-2007, 06:01 PM

Nyss, I'm trying to think of some really good Upstarts threads to start, but I can't really think of any:( Any suggestions???

Hmm... maybe what mutants the Upstarts should have went after, since they were trying to go after high-profile mutants? I dunno!

Dagger

08-05-2007, 06:07 PM

Hmm... maybe what mutants the Upstarts should have went after, since they were trying to go after high-profile mutants? I dunno!
Gah! I am a failure at this thread making thing:(

Pach!

08-05-2007, 06:11 PM

Gah! I am a failure at this thread making thing:(

Make thread! I will post ASAP!

Erik Lehnsherr

08-05-2007, 06:17 PM

The Acolytes of course. It introduced Exodus, Scanner, Uniscone, and Amelia Vought.

rilokyle

08-05-2007, 07:14 PM

No. Peter David's X-Factor starring Havok, Polaris, Strong Guy, Multiple Man, Wolfsbane, & Quicksilver.

The original X-Factor has far less humor in the stories itself with more serious villains.

Is that second comment really necessary?

Anyways, I'm all about the NASTY BOYS! Ruckus and Pretty Boy were HAWT.

Poundcakes for ever!!!

jester1436

08-05-2007, 07:27 PM

I love the ones I read about and watched on tv, and find myself amused and mildly interested in the existence of the others.

I don't see a problem with Iron Maidens, Twisted Sisters, or Helle's Belles. I mean, what do you want in an all female super villain team. Though, these could be workable options:

The Sorority of Sin

Ummm... that's it. Really, I wouldn't mind a legitimate Sisterhood of Mutants as a sort of feminist offshoot of the Brotherhood. I'd find that rather fun.

AdamYJ

08-05-2007, 07:50 PM

I think the Upstarts had a pretty cool idea behind them. The whole "game" aspect of it all.

I remember the Acolytes being used a lot, but I never quite warmed to them. I had only just been intriduced to the X-Men through the cartoon and I was more used to the more traditional "super-villian" types they used in that series. I remember that I kept looking up names like Cargill and Unuscione, wondering what those codenames meant. It took me forever to figure out they were just using their last names.

I have to provide a "write-in" nomination for the '90s Brotherhood. The one with Toad, Blob, Pyro, Phantazia and Sauron. You have to love Toad's revamp from doormat to cunning, grinning lunatic. Though, what Sauron was doing in that team I'll never know. He isn't even a mutant. He's a "non-mutant human genetic variant" or something weird like that.

Nyssane

08-05-2007, 08:21 PM

I don't see a problem with Iron Maidens, Twisted Sisters, or Helle's Belles. I mean, what do you want in an all female super villain team. Though, these could be workable options:

I don't think I know who the Iron Maidens are. I didn't like the Twisted Sisters, however. They were awful, and I read the Fantastic Four issues they were in also... they looked nothing like that when they battled the X-Men.

The Hell's Belles would've worked if they appeared in more than two issues. But I think PAD himself didn't like the Belles so that's why they got such awful treatment. I would love to see a female-based villain team, though.

POUNDCAKES would have to be in it, even tho she's not a mutant.

jester1436

08-05-2007, 08:38 PM

I don't think I know who the Iron Maidens are. I didn't like the Twisted Sisters, however. They were awful, and I read the Fantastic Four issues they were in also... they looked nothing like that when they battled the X-Men.

The Hell's Belles would've worked if they appeared in more than two issues. But I think PAD himself didn't like the Belles so that's why they got such awful treatment. I would love to see a female-based villain team, though.

POUNDCAKES would have to be in it, even tho she's not a mutant.

I've never read any appearances of the Twisted Sisters, or if I did I can't remember them.

I think the Sorority of Sin can be a non-mutant team. Mutants don't seem really interested in sin so much. You know Poundcakes is in to sin though. Poundcakes should reform the Grapplers honestly. I don't get why Battleaxe has made so many appearances lately, and Poundcakes fades into the nothing.

The Sisterhood of Mutants should have crazy Phantazia, angry and fierce Frenzy, and winged hooker Dragoness at the very least.

Nyssane

08-05-2007, 08:46 PM

I've never read any appearances of the Twisted Sisters, or if I did I can't remember them.

I think the Sorority of Sin can be a non-mutant team. Mutants don't seem really interested in sin so much. You know Poundcakes is in to sin though. Poundcakes should reform the Grapplers honestly. I don't get why Battleaxe has made so many appearances lately, and Poundcakes fades into the nothing.

The Sisterhood of Mutants should have crazy Phantazia, angry and fierce Frenzy, and winged hooker Dragoness at the very least.

Poundcakes wouldn't be a good leader, though. My dream is that Titania remakes the Grapplers, complete with Poundcakes and other women that would fit, like Knockout from the Femme Fatales. I'd love to see Titania become a leader.

The Sisterhood would be perfect if like... it was led by Mystique, Martinique Jason became the "Destiny" protege, Phantazia, Strobe, and maybe Fatale. I'd say Frenzy, but she's kickin' so much ass with the Acolytes, I don't want to see her ever leave! Unless it's to become an X-Man again, which I'd totally allow. :)

Hi-Fi

08-05-2007, 08:47 PM

MLF all the way! Come back to us, Dragoness!!

Dagger

08-05-2007, 08:47 PM

Add Strobe, Thumbelina, and Pink Pearl to that group and you have a killer squad!

Cthulhudrew

08-06-2007, 01:30 AM

Out of the choices above, I'm going with the Reavers. Not the first group that first got beaten in Australia, but the later group with three of them (Prettyboy, Skullbuster and Bonebreaker) that later got supplemented by Donald Pierce, Lady Deathstrike, and Cole, Macon, and Reese.

That team and their assault on Muir Island still stands out as one of the most dramatic and impressive storylines in X-Men to me.

(And I hated how they got jobbed in X-Men #281 so that Lee and Portacio's aptly named and poorly conceived "Upstarts" could show how kewl they were. Glad that someone resurrected them later on, especially Cole, Macon, and Reese, who I've always loved since it was revealed they were the Hellfire club guys that Wolvie maimed in what is one of his most awesome and memorable appearances.)

Cthulhudrew

08-06-2007, 01:33 AM

Sorry- boards acting funky. Double post.

steve2275

08-06-2007, 02:26 AM

....acolytes

Karl H

08-06-2007, 03:26 AM

In the absence of N'Sync as an option in the favourite 90's band poll, I choose the Acolytes.

Onslaught Reborn

08-06-2007, 06:14 PM

Reavers? They're '80s! We could've had Toad's Brotherhood, Evil Havok's Brotherhood, Emplate's Hellions or Cerebro's X-Men up there instead!

But as much as I like most of the other groups, it's all about the Acolytes.

Monty_Cristo

08-06-2007, 06:46 PM

1. Mutant Liberation Front (i was just the right age to want to join up + i liked Wildside & Reaper)

2. Nasty Boys (i loved their hangout and the laidback attitude of the group - funny how seeing them in the animated series used to be exciting)

3. Dark Riders (i'm actually not sure why i liked them but i was collecting all of the x-cutioners song crossover - that was one helluva event)

in that order

xmanson

08-06-2007, 06:51 PM

Nyssane

08-06-2007, 07:08 PM

What issue of FF the Twisted Sisters were in?

Edit: Just found out. They only share the same name, I guess.

No, they were the same characters.

Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost

08-06-2007, 08:23 PM

Omega Sentinels b/c Karima kicks ass

Citizen V

08-06-2007, 08:32 PM

The mid 90`s was when i stoped reading X-Men...so im not really sure.

Kalen O.

08-06-2007, 09:12 PM

The mid 90`s was when i stoped reading X-Men...so im not really sure.

Thanks for the contribution.

Kingrambo912

08-06-2007, 09:24 PM

I really have a fascination with the Acolytes and I am not too sure why since honestly I don't think they were completely fleshed out. I want more Scanner and Neophyte... I was also really happy to see Senyaka alive again in Cable Deadpool, although I don't know that he is still that way.. Oh yeah and Frenzy and Uniscone right now are nice.

I also like the MLF and would be happy to see them anywhere... hopefully Reaver will make it out of Abyss intact... Oh yeah and tempo is around too... Man Carey is the best writer ever.

The only other team I would have wanted up there is the Hellion's from Moore and Cheung's run. It was great seeing Tarot back and I was intrigued by King Bedlam. He should be brought back powers intact.

Erik Lehnsherr

08-06-2007, 09:46 PM

Wasn't it Uncanny #315 where Neophyte got judged or something by Exodus? It was a all Acolyte book with no X-Men and it ended with Magneto smiling in his catatonic state.

Jack Flash

08-07-2007, 07:19 AM

I lurve the MLF and I love the Nasty Boys! Go Forearm! Go Gorgeous George!

Neophyte and the Kleinstocks make the Acolytes rock. Rusty's loss still makes me cry on the inside.

Dagger

08-07-2007, 08:24 AM

I lurve the MLF and I love the Nasty Boys! Go Forearm! Go Gorgeous George!

Neophyte and the Kleinstocks make the Acolytes rock. Rusty's loss still makes me cry on the inside.
That was the only part I didn't like about the Fall of Avalon! Why did Rusty have to die???:(

Jack Flash

08-07-2007, 08:30 AM

That was the only part I didn't like about the Fall of Avalon! Why did Rusty have to die???:(

why couldn't it have been Voght! or Barnacle!

brundlefly

08-07-2007, 01:07 PM

I like a lot of the groups on that list, so I'll narrow it down to a top three:

Reavers
The crucifixtion of Wolverine and the Muir Island slaughter give these lovable homicidal cyborgs the top spot for me.
Upstarts
A fun group of decadent, spoiled would-be arch villains, targeting other mutants for death just for kicks and out of boredom. Trevor and Shinobi are my two faves from this bunch.
Acolytes
Some really cool characters on that team, ike Exodus, Unuscione, Frenzy, Voght, Senyaka, etc. It was (almost) worth putting up with the "90s Mad Mutant Messiah" version of Magneto in order to get the creation of the Acolytes.

Monty_Cristo

08-07-2007, 03:49 PM

That was the only part I didn't like about the Fall of Avalon! Why did Rusty have to die???:(

because he lacked a cool code name. absolutely inexcusable for a pyrokinetic. there's so much to choose from and he calls himself 'Rusty.' that's a little kid's name.

FortKnox

08-07-2007, 04:25 PM

because he lacked a cool code name. absolutely inexcusable for a pyrokinetic. there's so much to choose from and he calls himself 'Rusty.' that's a little kid's name.

And don't forget the nickname of Clark Griswold's son in all those Vacation movies.

Diablito

08-07-2007, 05:58 PM

because he lacked a cool code name. absolutely inexcusable for a pyrokinetic. there's so much to choose from and he calls himself 'Rusty.' that's a little kid's name.

Well, he had the positively fabulous codename "Firefist" for a while. Sounds like a raunchy sex move.

xmanson

08-07-2007, 06:22 PM

No, they were the same characters.

Really?

Well, they are from an alternate reality in FF, so that could be explanation.

Bart Simpson

08-07-2007, 06:41 PM

Acolytes. I loved that issue when a group of them attacked a bus full of children. It was Archangel, Gambit, Bishop and Jean versus Frenzy, the Kleinstocks Brothers, Unscione, and some others. It was great!!

Monty_Cristo

08-07-2007, 07:14 PM

Cthulhudrew

08-07-2007, 07:15 PM

Heh. Looking at the poll numbers for the Externals above, I guess it's true that "There can be only one." :p

Dagger

08-07-2007, 09:28 PM

why couldn't it have been Voght! or Barnacle!
Poor Barnacle! He doesn't deserve the hate! Plus he wasn't even created then! But I'd be all for Voght getting the ax! Pfft.

Dagger

08-07-2007, 09:29 PM

because he lacked a cool code name. absolutely inexcusable for a pyrokinetic. there's so much to choose from and he calls himself 'Rusty.' that's a little kid's name.
It was his real name. His name was Russell 'Rusty' Collins. Pssh. Noob!;)

Monty_Cristo

08-07-2007, 09:49 PM

It was his real name. His name was Russell 'Rusty' Collins. Pssh. Noob!;)

when did i say it wasn't his real name Noob? ;)

p.s. why did the Hell's Belles and Nasty Boys never hook-up?

Dagger

08-07-2007, 09:55 PM

when did i say it wasn't his real name Noob? ;)

p.s. why did the Hell's Belles and Nasty Boys never hook-up?
Oops. My bad. I thought since you were implying that Rusty was his code name, you didn't know it was his real name.

And cause they were all gay. Hell's Belle's hung out at the lezzy bar that Dazz used to wait at after she 'came out', and well, the Nasty Boys weren't the one's Janet Jackson was singin' about. RAMROD!!

Monty_Cristo

08-07-2007, 10:47 PM

Oops. My bad. I thought since you were implying that Rusty was his code name, you didn't know it was his real name.

i started reading with the original x-men and worked my way down. i'm surprised that i didn't go blind from all of the x-related stuff i read. definately have Rusty's first appearance somewhere in the bins. i was surprised how he and Skids turned out. it's like no one knew what to do with them so they were continually being victimized (Freedom Force, Masque, Stryfe, the Friends of Humanity, the Acolytes, etc).

And cause they were all gay. Hell's Belle's hung out at the lezzy bar that Dazz used to wait at after she 'came out', and well, the Nasty Boys weren't the one's Janet Jackson was singin' about. RAMROD!!

Hairbag wasn't attractive enough to be a gay mutant. he could have gotten it on with Briquette.