View Full Version : Exiles #97 and New Excalibur #22 - 6 Page Previews!!
Beast
08-03-2007, 09:20 AM
What the Devil? :D
Sorry, it had to be done. I wonder if it's meant to be Psylocke's new catchphrase. Better than "Focused totallity of my psychic abilities". Exiles looks pretty good so far, this storyarc seems to be a major step forward from CC's first one on the title. Even his Morph is more reserved, so he must have acclimated better to the character. I love the addition of "Cat", and the fact that total control over things is no longer in the Exiles court. Especially with Dave and Paty Cockrum manipulating things. Much happier to see them than Roma.
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New Excalibur looks good as well. Though there's not much in the preview to really discuss. Even though I've always hated the name Britannia, it's nice to see it refrenced and used. It's great for a sense of continuity. Also interesting that it goes hand in hand with Exiles, where Cat confused Betsy for "Captain Britannia". So we can see the two titles seemingly starting to move forward towards the upcoming crossover. I'm not familiar with my famous Brits, but is the man giving orders supposed to be Tony Blair or his recent replacement?
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Both books will be in stores next week the 8th of August. :D
Beast
08-03-2007, 09:27 AM
It does appear to be Tony Blair. Sweet. :)
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Novaya Havoc
08-03-2007, 09:31 AM
Looks positively cringeworthy. Look at all that Sage Worship! Oh, my Brittania! And Psylocke is called "Brittania" too. This just further proves that each character is one and the same.
Beast
08-03-2007, 09:39 AM
Looks positively cringeworthy. Look at all that Sage Worship! Oh, my Brittainia! And Psylocke is called "Brittania" too. This just further proves that each character is one and the same.
The character can't even stand there without you screaming "Sage Worship".
Just because Sage isn't Dazzler doesn't mean you should be so jealous of her.
And the name Britannia proves what now? It's British folklore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia
Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost
08-03-2007, 09:41 AM
Ewww Psylocke's costumes just keep getting more and more awful!
And really that's the best idea? "oh lets change the spelling of their names that's "alt. reality-ish".....UGH
Beast
08-03-2007, 09:46 AM
Ewww Psylocke's costumes just keep getting more and more awful!
And really that's the best idea? "oh lets change the spelling of their names that's "alt. reality-ish".....UGH
Costume? She's just in jeans and a sweatshirt. :confused:
Elsbeth is actually the traditional spelling/pronounciation of Elisabeth.
Novaya Havoc
08-03-2007, 09:53 AM
The character can't even stand there without you screaming "Sage Worship".
Just because Sage isn't Dazzler doesn't mean you should be so jealous of her.
And the name Britannia proves what now? It's British folklore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britannia
It has nothing to do with Dazzler. It has everything to do with Sage! Much like this arc!
And Brittania proves that it's tired.
Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost
08-03-2007, 09:55 AM
It has nothing to do with Dazzler. It has everything to do with Sage! Much like this arc!
And Brittania proves that it's tired.
It doesnt have anything to do with Dazzler is has everything to do with lazy writing.
Beast
08-03-2007, 09:59 AM
It has nothing to do with Dazzler. It has everything to do with Sage! Much like this arc!
And Brittania proves that it's tired.
The arc is focused on Albion. You know, the guy they're fighting.
I don't understand this violent irrational hatred you have for Sage. If anything is tired, it's that.
And how exactly is one character dubbing a character a name which is based on traditional British folklore tired? Especially on that fits in this case. That arguement does not even make sense.
Novaya Havoc
08-03-2007, 10:02 AM
The arc is focused on Albion. You know, the guy they're fighting.
I don't understand this violent irrational hatred you have for Sage. If anything is tired, it's that.
And how exactly is one character dubbing a character a name which is based on traditional British folklore tired? Especially on that fits in this case. That arguement does not even make sense.
Because it happened to one pet in one book, and the other pet in the other book, within the SAME MONTH?! Played.
Beast
08-03-2007, 10:09 AM
Because it happened to one pet in one book, and the other pet in the other book, within the SAME MONTH?! Played.
You mean the two books that are converging for a crossover have things in common? Gasp! Say it ain't so! :D
And not sure Psylocke fits the pet character profile you seem to have dubbed her with. Considering she's managed to screw up first thing out of the gate, what with accidentally smashing Morph's brainwash device and nearly getting killed by the bad guys. Not to mention the fact she was barely a part of the first storyarc. And so far in the second one lesse.... she's managed to fall asleep on monitor duty, met simulacras of Dave and Paty Cockrum who warned her of what's to come, and rushed Cat to the medbay of the Crystal Palace.
Christopher O
08-03-2007, 10:11 AM
Wow, Steve Scott is pretty good. I'd like to see more of him. Hopefully, he gets some non-Claremont work soon, so I can.
streator
08-03-2007, 10:11 AM
who is steve scott? i thought clayton henry was penciling this exiles arc.
Beast
08-03-2007, 10:13 AM
Wow, Steve Scott is pretty good. I'd like to see more of him. Hopefully, he gets some non-Claremont work soon, so I can.
Agreed. I actually like him better than Clayton Henry. Would love to see him as the permanent penciler.
streator
08-03-2007, 10:17 AM
Wow, Steve Scott is pretty good. I'd like to see more of him. Hopefully, he gets some non-Claremont work soon, so I can.
it looks okay, kind of generic.
i asked who he was because i've never heard of him, not because i read exiles.
also, oliffe is filling-in on nex? bad month for cc regular artists.
HellFrost
08-03-2007, 10:56 AM
Exiles looks pretty good. I can't wait.
New Excalibur... I kinda wish this arc was just over already..... I don't care about the civilians... I care about the team the book is based on... Where the hell were they...?:(
Beast
08-03-2007, 11:01 AM
Exiles looks pretty good. I can't wait.
New Excalibur... I kinda wish this arc was just over already..... I don't care about the civilians... I care about the team the book is based on... Where the hell were they...?:(
Probably on the next page. I actually like how much development Albion's been given.
Novaya Havoc
08-03-2007, 11:02 AM
Probably on the next page. I actually like how much development Albion's been given.
You're talking "panel time." His one-note "I'm evil and heartless" schtick isn't development.
Fatguy
08-03-2007, 11:08 AM
You're talking "panel time." His one-note "I'm evil and heartless" schtick isn't development.
Yea, I totally agree with you there. Albion's motives seem weak at best. Which is a shame, he's very impressive visually, I would like to see that be matched by his personality.
"I'm pissed I didnt get the support I wanted to save my world, so I need to take over Earth now!" confuses me a bit :eek:
Phil Hunn
08-03-2007, 01:06 PM
Oh look, Claremont's put another pet character on the Exiles squad.
Gosh, didn't see THAT one coming at all. Soon Sage will arrive, and then we'll get a Storm of some kind, and maybe a Wolverine to somewhat balance out the oestrogen levels.
Pet Character Squad... ACTIVATE! :rolleyes:
Christ, I'm glad I called it quits on that book when I did...
altariel
08-03-2007, 01:47 PM
"Oh look, Claremont's put another pet character on the Exiles squad.
Gosh, didn't see THAT one coming at all. Soon Sage will arrive, and then we'll get a Storm of some kind, and maybe a Wolverine to somewhat balance out the oestrogen levels.
Pet Character Squad... ACTIVATE!
Christ, I'm glad I called it quits on that book when I did..."
I find all the hostility towards Claremont tiring. Like any writer he has written bad issues as well as brilliant. While he does have some cliches he falls back on and overly utilizes, I think his run on Exiles has been a nice showing of what he is capable of.
Jmd211
08-03-2007, 02:06 PM
"Oh look, Claremont's put another pet character on the Exiles squad.
Gosh, didn't see THAT one coming at all. Soon Sage will arrive, and then we'll get a Storm of some kind, and maybe a Wolverine to somewhat balance out the oestrogen levels.
Pet Character Squad... ACTIVATE!
Christ, I'm glad I called it quits on that book when I did..."
I find all the hostility towards Claremont tiring. Like any writer he has written bad issues as well as brilliant. While he does have some cliches he falls back on and overly utilizes, I think his run on Exiles has been a nice showing of what he is capable of.
I completely agree with you, every writer has a pet character that they enjoy the most. It can't be helped that it is/was an X-title, and there were so many in the years.
Claremont still writes good stories, I love Exiles and i always thought that this is the book he should have been on. Also, i like his Excalibur comics. He is still one of the better writers on Marvel.
Beast
08-03-2007, 02:12 PM
Plus with all the speculation that Whedon may kill Shadowcat in Whedon's Astonishing X-Men, I'm all for an alternate version of her in Exiles if it happens. I say add an alternate Captain America also.
Henry T.
08-03-2007, 02:24 PM
Some Excalibur advanced spoilers
Dazzler makes some more light swords. At one point Dazzler seems to fly with light energy all around her. When the others ask her about her new power stunts, she says some are illusion and some are real. I think she says she wouldn't tell which were real or not but she does say that she is getting more creative with her powers.
Shadow Beast gets stabbed through the chest and dies.
Shadow Jean doesn't appear at all. I don't think they even mention her.
I didn't get a very detailed look though.
Phil Hunn
08-03-2007, 04:02 PM
I find all the hostility towards Claremont tiring. Like any writer he has written bad issues as well as brilliant. While he does have some cliches he falls back on and overly utilizes, I think his run on Exiles has been a nice showing of what he is capable of.
Believe it or not, I'm not a hater at all. I've met the guy twice, and found him to be incredibly easy to talk to and have a laugh with. Not only that, but the first time we met he recognised me on a first-name basis (after I'd dropped a little hint, he said "Oh, YOU'RE Phil", which remains one of the proudest moments of my dismal little existence). He's mentioned stuff I've said at Comixfan in two separate interviews, and included a little homage to me in Uncanny X-Men #449 (I'm represented by the guy throwing a steel chair at Storm). After all that, actively hating the guy would seem churlish.
No, my problem is that given the massive scope of the book and an entire library of the Marvel Universe's great characters to use, we're still presented with 616 Psylocke & "Cat" Pryde. This strikes me as poor show, to be honest. And while I applaud his use of guys like Miguel O'Hara, I do fear for them as well.
drwho
08-03-2007, 04:09 PM
Wow I was slightly impressed with that preview of Exiles. They should have gotten Steve Scott on this book sooner because I'm assuming I like it cus another writer had their hand in it. Those 5 pages read 100 times more interesting than the boxes and dialog that have appeared in exiles in the past 5 issues. :p
Brian "Vash" Ashby
08-03-2007, 05:02 PM
What the Devil? :D
...... :D
Cut most of that since its not particularly relevant to what i have to say.
I havent read the rest of the pages, but i just had to say that that first exiles page is unquestionably, in my mind, the worst written comic book page ive ever seen
I mean,,,"headquarters" in quotes...
"what the devil?" I mean psylocke isnt one to censor herself. In need some wtf going on there
"are you even real"........that sort of reminds me of that thing Lois says in her head when flying around with superman in the first movie
and the way harm is separated from the rest of the speech bubbles seems to indicate that Psylocke did in fact mean her harm
I shall read the rest.....but needed to just vent on that page.
xmanson
08-03-2007, 05:19 PM
Perfection in comic book form. That's what these are.
Blade X
08-03-2007, 07:21 PM
No, my problem is that given the massive scope of the book and an entire library of the Marvel Universe's great characters to use, we're still presented with 616 Psylocke & "Cat" Pryde. This strikes me as poor show, to be honest. And while I applaud his use of guys like Miguel O'Hara, I do fear for them as well.
You have to remember that in MOST cases CC DOES NOT have carte blanch to choose which characters he wants.
Brian "Vash" Ashby
08-03-2007, 07:30 PM
Plus Psylocke and Kitty Pryde are vastly superior to most marvel characters
He should branch out though, but i think this might be crossover setup or something
ibrakeforchinwe
08-03-2007, 07:39 PM
Those old people in Exiles are getting on my nerves, I want to know who the hell they are.
Brian "Vash" Ashby
08-03-2007, 07:49 PM
i believe the man is a future version of Justin Timberlake, since he said "my love"
Beast
08-03-2007, 08:01 PM
Those old people in Exiles are getting on my nerves, I want to know who the hell they are.
Well, from their dialogue in this issue and the last, they appear to possibly have been Guadians who were the ones who built the Crystal Palace and used to oversee the Multiverse from there.
Well, from their dialogue in this issue and the last, they appear to possibly have been Guadians who were the ones who built the Crystal Palace and used to oversee the Multiverse from there.
Nice theory.
It's so freakn annoying Marvel said Clayton was the new ongoing pencilier and he only does two fuckin issues. I swear Marvel shouldn't even assign artists anymore they should just rotate every arc that's what it seems like these days anyway.
jester1436
08-03-2007, 10:07 PM
Well, the Psylocke parts of Exiles are rotten and so are the Sage and Albion parts of NEX. Hopefully the meat of the books aren't as bad. :(
Daithi
08-04-2007, 02:01 AM
Well, from their dialogue in this issue and the last, they appear to possibly have been Guadians who were the ones who built the Crystal Palace and used to oversee the Multiverse from there.
Either that or they're Roma and Merlyn in disguise. Or perhaps the people who had the job before them.
Phil Hunn
08-04-2007, 05:34 AM
You have to remember that in MOST cases CC DOES NOT have carte blanch to choose which characters he wants.
Tht's just it, though. Here, he does have carte blanche - Exiles is a total blank slate in terms of who absolutely has to be on the team (Blink and Morph aside), and instead of getting crazy new incarnations of, say, Maggott and Marrow, we get freakin' Kitty Pryde.
Those old people in Exiles are getting on my nerves, I want to know who the hell they are.
They are visual representations of the late Dave Cockrum and his wife, included as a homage to one of Claremont's oldest buddies. Of course, who they are in story terms is completely shrouded in darkness :p
Daithi
08-04-2007, 06:07 AM
Tht's just it, though. Here, he does have carte blanche - Exiles is a total blank slate in terms of who absolutely has to be on the team (Blink and Morph aside), and instead of getting crazy new incarnations of, say, Maggott and Marrow, we get freakin' Kitty Pryde.
Aye. Claremont wanted Kitty on his F4 run as a babysitter for Franklin too. I couldn't see Claremont using Maggott or Marrow but alternate Amara, Dani or Karma would be nice. Claremont has written them before and they could easily fill any Kitty slot.
JBKWaka
08-04-2007, 06:19 AM
Marrow should be used for Exiles though And I'm pretty sure Claremont would come up with something decent
_Jayme_
08-04-2007, 06:39 AM
If Claremont is doing another arc after this one, I may have to say goodbye to the disaster known as Exiles :p
Elias Bogan
08-04-2007, 07:02 AM
Wasn't Marrow originally part of Claremont's Revolution? I remember him giving an interview about her being part of Rogue's squad...
And those "old people" are supposed to represent Dave and Patty Cockrum.
Brian "Vash" Ashby
08-04-2007, 07:14 AM
a universe doesnt exist where Marrow and Maggot are interesting
Also, just noticed in the New Excalibur stuff the dad and the little girl
dad also calls the little girl "my love"
connection, or is this another new "totally"?
Flight
08-04-2007, 07:53 AM
Rubbish as usual.
Can't believe Exiles has gone this way after 90odd issues of awesomeness.
Karl H
08-04-2007, 07:54 AM
Rubbish as usual.
Can't believe Exiles has gone this way after 90odd issues of awesomeness.
I blame the editors for allowing Chris Claremont onto this book.
Flight
08-04-2007, 07:58 AM
I blame the editors for allowing Chris Claremont onto this book. I blame you for not campaigning to keep Tony Bedard on the book for longer.
_Jayme_
08-04-2007, 09:23 AM
But look at the guy! He's trying to make Psylocke the focus of the book like he does every other time he writes! Not only that, but this is the way I look at it. Look at Hulk Hogan. He's said he's getting too old to keep doing the same old thing in the ring constantly but yet he keeps going back and re-creating Hulkamania..It's kind of the same with Claremont...At one point, he might have another big story, but until that time...I'm not touching Exiles.
Brian "Vash" Ashby
08-04-2007, 12:32 PM
he certainly didnt make psylocke the focal point of x-men revolution or xxm, since he killed her 2 issues in
Novaya Havoc
08-04-2007, 12:34 PM
he certainly didnt make psylocke the focal point of x-men revolution or xxm, since he killed her 2 issues in
Yeah, but he was planning to bring her back all along.
Brian "Vash" Ashby
08-04-2007, 12:38 PM
Even so
Plus, Psylocke should be the focus of all books if Carey wrote her
Maker hte main member of the JLA
Even so
Plus, Psylocke should be the focus of all books if Carey wrote her
Maker hte main member of the JLA
I dunno, Psylocke has never been in the spotlight as a serious/important role and she's been in limbo for years and even throughout the 90s she was seldomly used and only appeared when it was time for her to be beaten to death and/or changed.
I understand the frustration with her being the focus of Exiles because I'm in the same crowd. Even though I love Betsy she's my fave character, Exiles is not the book for her for more reasons than one.
I didn't mind her at all being the semi-focus during Uncanny XMen, I wish Carey would get her and she'd be just as important as the rest of Carey's team and she can be fantastic again!
Brian "Vash" Ashby
08-04-2007, 12:50 PM
indeed
the only person i want to have psylocke right now, other than carey, is AdamWarren
that X-men unlimited story was awesome
Grunty
08-04-2007, 12:53 PM
Wasn't Marrow originally part of Claremont's Revolution? I remember him giving an interview about her being part of Rogue's squad...
Really do you have a link or scan of that one? Since that would totaly throw another light on Claremont. So far i always thought he hated the character of Marrow.
Hell i even heared that he original wanted her to have died during the six month gap which he later wanted to adress in an issue but since the whole Movie thing and failed Revolution thing came in he never had time do so and never thought it was necesary to explain it.
Marrow should be used for Exiles though And I'm pretty sure Claremont would come up with something decent
See above comment on why i highly doubt we might ever see a version of Marrow apearing during Claremonts run.
If i remember right the only time we ever saw another version of Marrow in an Exiles story was when they where on a wolrd where humans and mutants fight in a area for Skrulls amusement.
And that only because the story happend in 2001 which means memorys of Marrows membership where still fresh.
_Jayme_
08-04-2007, 01:05 PM
If I had my way with Psylocke, I'd give her to New Excalibur and just get rid of the Exiles book. It would raise Excalibur's sales and give her some good potential stories.
Don't get me wrong though. I like Claremont. :p I just don't his overusage of Psylocke.
Faded
08-04-2007, 01:37 PM
a universe doesnt exist where Marrow and Maggot are interesting
YOU...suck.
Brian "Vash" Ashby
08-04-2007, 01:46 PM
YOU...suck.
stfu! You're wrong! ;)
Pwood
08-04-2007, 02:14 PM
You must be really confused by some of the plot concepts going on in the book then
At this point, I'm really confused by some of the plot concepts going on in your brain ! :eek: Are you Brian Ashby's leman , or are you just another CC hater ? :confused:
Dude, use quotes...
Here's how: Click the thing that says "Quote" in the bottom right of the person you are quoting's post...
Beast
08-04-2007, 02:24 PM
I don't see how she's being made the star of the book. She certainly wasn't in the last storyarc, given more focus was given to Sabretooth and Morph than her. Hell, Sabretooth actually did something other than play Wallpaper in the book for once. Yes, she was used to introduce the Exiles status-quo to new readers, but she wasn't taking charge or focus from the other characters. And she's not even currently running with the team. She's being used to build the subplot that will kick off the crossover this October.
xmanson
08-04-2007, 04:05 PM
I blame you for not campaigning to keep Tony Bedard on the book for longer.
I blame the gays.
If anyones stay on Exiles should have been extended it should have been Winick's. Bedard was great up until World Tour, then everything else either sucked or was mediocre at best and all the emotional feeling of the title was gone. He didn't give it that element of surprise or that feeling of nobody is safe anymore since the whole team was composed of pre-established characters.
Plus the whole plot of the bugs being the big bad time broker was so freak'n lame and just was so anti-climactic when that reveal should have been mind blowing not "oh it's just a bunch of bugs that fucked up"
I dunno, Psylocke has never been in the spotlight as a serious/important role and she's been in limbo for years and even throughout the 90s she was seldomly used and only appeared when it was time for her to be beaten to death and/or changed.
Psylocke has too been the focus when Chris Claremont wrote Betsy in The New Mutants Annual #2, Uncanny X-Men #213, Uncanny X-Men Annual #11, Uncanny X-Men #249-251, & Uncanny X-Men #256-258. Never? No. You're incorrect.
I understand the frustration with her being the focus of Exiles because I'm in the same crowd. Even though I love Betsy she's my fave character, Exiles is not the book for her for more reasons than one.
Why is Exiles not the book for her?
Beast
08-04-2007, 05:37 PM
Agreed. Hated the bugs. Hated more that the Exiles lost the lack of control that was one of the aspects of the book that worked best. Before they were leaping from world to world, barely any downtime, having to do the missions and move on. Now they're in charge of the Crystal Palace and have complete control of their lives.
At least there seems to be a sense returning that the Exiles arn't in complete control anymore. What with the simulacras of Dave and Paty Cockrum manipulating things from the background. I'm all for that continuing, so that there's a sense of danger and of lack of control again. And I'd rather see those two behind things, then Roma. Though they're probably similar entities, maybe even rivals to Merlyn and Roma.
Psylocke has too been the focus when Chris Claremont wrote Betsy in The New Mutants Annual #2, Uncanny X-Men #213, Uncanny X-Men Annual #11, Uncanny X-Men #249-251, & Uncanny X-Men #256-258. Never? No. You're incorrect.
Why is Exiles not the book for her?
Stop freakin quoting me with your insane issue references it's SCARY and BOTHERS me.
The Sword Is Drawn
08-04-2007, 06:47 PM
And how exactly is one character dubbing a character a name which is based on traditional British folklore tired? Especially on that fits in this case. That arguement does not even make sense.
No, it doesn't. Every Captain has been named after some aspect of Britain. That's how it works. From Captain Britain or Captain UK, to Hauptman Englande or Captain Cymru, to Caledonia or even Britanicus Rex. It how it works.
Sage being given a name just promotes her above the role of Red Shirted Sword Captain #... you know.
Incidentally, I like the logic this glimpse of Albion is being put forward. It's like he knows his own world is doomed so he's taking this one by force instead - in this bizarre warped bad guy logic that in some way that's actually doing the right thing...:D
also, oliffe is filling-in on nex? bad month for cc regular artists.
Yeah, I have to say I'm a bit narked about that. But the NEX has not had a regular penciller since Marvel took Eaton off the book without warning. It's been Jeremy Haun whose primarily filled in, and he's back in an issue's time. Who knows we might even see Staz Johnson again, at this rate. It;s a free for all!:D
New Excalibur... I kinda wish this arc was just over already..... I don't care about the civilians... I care about the team the book is based on... Where the hell were they...?
Inevitably on the next page trying to get Lionheart to snap out of this and come back on board the side of the angels, so to speak.:rolleyes:
I like the civilians being there. These last few issues is the first time ANYBODY on this book has taken a decent stab at acknowledging where the book is set, instead of the 'Elephant in the Room everybody's afraid to talk about' role it had under Frank Tieri, in particular.
Probably on the next page. I actually like how much development Albion's been given.
Me too. He was just another campy villain, when he debuted. But with his back-story, plotting, and like I say, this twisted notion that he's actually saving these people by enslaving them, is actually pretty interesting.
You're talking "panel time." His one-note "I'm evil and heartless" schtick isn't development.
I don't know which book that you've been reading but I've seen quite a bot more than just "I'm Evil and Heartless" on this arc, so far. WE know how he came to be, what he's doing, and why he's doing it. What's wrong with that.
Well, apart from some pretty clunky dialogue in several places - but let's be honest, you practically have to develop a filter for that when you read Claremont these days...:D
Phil Hunn
08-05-2007, 05:35 AM
Wasn't Marrow originally part of Claremont's Revolution? I remember him giving an interview about her being part of Rogue's squad...
Kitty Pryde (shocking, I know, but work with me here) was filling the Marrow role at the beginning of the Revolution, what with her close-cropped hair and her use of a couple of Logan's snapped-off bone claws as weapons.
a universe doesnt exist where Marrow and Maggot are interesting
You, sir, are dead to me. DEAD!
At least there seems to be a sense returning that the Exiles arn't in complete control anymore. What with the simulacras of Dave and Paty Cockrum manipulating things from the background.
Can't... resist... inner Grammar Nazi...
The plural of "simulacrum" is "simulacra" or "simulacrums". Not "simulacras"...
.. I'm so sorry. I couldn't resist. I'll go hide in my cave now :(
Flâneur
08-05-2007, 07:23 AM
Why is Exiles not the book for her?
It isn't the book for her because Exiles is (or was) a less constrained title; shoving high profile 616 characters into the book restricts the playing field somewhat (you'd do well to note cross time caper had no high profile 616ers either). It also destroys some of the charm of seeing new concepts and exploration of D-list or dead characters for which the 616 has no room.
You might ask yourself why Claremont never introduced an alternate Psylocke instead, with fresh storylines to carry along with her.
tetragene
08-05-2007, 08:00 AM
I get the feeling that the "people" of Britain will be the ones to somehow overpower Albion and his lackies' asses... all the emphasis on "what can WE do? WE are POWERLESS. WE are no match for THEM. But WE must, for the PEOPLE." seems to be pointing toward that outcome. At which point I wonder...what is the point of this NEX team, God knows they really haven't done very much to cement themselves as Britain's premiere super-team this arc--and there are only what? Two issues left? As for Exiles...well, Bedard dug the grave, CC's just making sure they stay there.
EDIT: I'm also still waiting for some light to be shed on Albion's motives, so that this whole ordeal isn't just some baby-ish "Roma doesn't like ME, so I have to take it out on Earth...and BRIAN BRADDOCK" bitch fit.
The Sword Is Drawn
08-05-2007, 09:02 AM
I get the feeling that the "people" of Britain will be the ones to somehow overpower Albion and his lackies' asses... all the emphasis on "what can WE do? WE are POWERLESS. WE are no match for THEM. But WE must, for the PEOPLE." seems to be pointing toward that outcome. At which point I wonder...what is the point of this NEX team, God knows they really haven't done very much to cement themselves as Britain's premiere super-team this arc--and there are only what? Two issues left?
You know you might be right, and that might be the point. The general public were always behind Captain Britain and Excalibur. If this version fails to do that NOW, Cornell's run could be all the more interesting. Albion is beaten, but the public lose all confidence in Excalibur, and Cap, forcing a huge shake-up and perhaps a new team on a Government Payroll for a while. That could open up some infinitely more interesting avenues for future stories...
EDIT: I'm also still waiting for some light to be shed on Albion's motives, so that this whole ordeal isn't just some baby-ish "Roma doesn't like ME, so I have to take it out on Earth...and BRIAN BRADDOCK" bitch fit.
Well logically I would have thought the real reason that he's pissed of is that a) Roma was right, he wasn't able to control the power he'd been given, b) He ended 100 years of war on his world, and yet they all still continued to die from famine and disease, and c) He finds out there's this whole Corps of alternate Captains who could have helped, but didn't.
That what logic would tell me. However, it's not exactly what Chris Claremont has told me, if you know what I mean...:rolleyes:
It might suggest, from that preview, that Albion might actually intend upon seizing this world for himself, and ruling it. Possibly in some crazed belief that that's the best and noblest thing to do. He might even port his surviving people over here to live, as well.
TonyJaymz03
08-05-2007, 09:15 AM
man exiles used to be so good
I dropped it after Mimic died and never looked back
these previews pretty much cement that I made the right decision
Big Red Spider
08-05-2007, 09:34 AM
So who died/left to make room for cat?
Beast
08-05-2007, 09:37 AM
So who died/left to make room for cat?
Nobody as of yet. There's no confirmation she's even being added to the cast yet.
The Sword Is Drawn
08-05-2007, 09:40 AM
Nobody as of yet. There's no confirmation she's even being added to the cast yet.
Well, technically, hasn't Heather gone? Doesn't that leave one slot spare.
Bulky Brent
08-05-2007, 09:40 AM
Thats too bad though
Beast
08-05-2007, 09:41 AM
Well, technically, hasn't Heather gone? Doesn't that leave one slot spare.
Very true. But does that mean Betsy's going to continue playing Heather's role?
The Sword Is Drawn
08-05-2007, 09:43 AM
Very true. But does that mean Betsy's going to continue playing Heather's role?
Until CC can get Sage onto the title, quite possibly...
Brian Cronin
08-05-2007, 09:48 AM
Thanks for sharing the previews, Beast!
I think I'll just have us hold off the silliness of the "discussion" of these books to their actual releases, though.
-Brian
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