Wolverine movie news: Blob and Sabretooth [Archive]

The Horhey

08-02-2007, 08:37 AM

I read somewhere Agent Zero AKA Maverick is supposed to be in it too. It doesnt make any sense for Blob to be in it becouse hes not exactly part of Logan's rogues gallery. They should of had him in X3 instead of Phat.

Its cool that they changed their mind about not getting into Wolverine's martial arts and military background becouse thats an important part of his history. There would be kind of a plot hole if they didnt becouse people would of wondered 'how does he know how to fight like that'?

Vinnie Jones is an idiot.

HellFrost

08-02-2007, 09:00 AM

I wish they would show the hot affair between Wolverine and Cyclops in the pst. Not that they ever had one in the books, but I would like to see a hot scene between Hugh Jackman and James Marsden, yummie yummie.

Also a good reason why they couldn't stand eachother later in the X-movies:rolleyes:

I'm all for that!! Oh god all my dreams would come true.:D

I hope that if they do put Blob in, they make him and Wolverine fight. I always thought it would be cool to see Blob on the big screen, he's always been so funny and I loved him so much in X-Men evolution that I started liking him in the core books... lol:o

The Horhey

08-02-2007, 09:10 AM

I'm all for that!! Oh god all my dreams would come true.:D

I hope that if they do put Blob in, they make him and Wolverine fight. I always thought it would be cool to see Blob on the big screen, he's always been so funny and I loved him so much in X-Men evolution that I started liking him in the core books... lol:o

Too bad he was depowered M day.

HellFrost

08-02-2007, 09:16 AM

Too bad he was depowered M day.

I know... I actually feel really bad for him. He's one of the poor guys who's power worked against him after that.

Pro

08-02-2007, 10:13 AM

ProfeZZor X

08-02-2007, 10:47 AM

A fight between Blob and Wolverine would be kinda odd, wouldn't it? Either Wolverine just slices him or Blob jumps from a distance on top of him. In either case i can't see a long fight coming from that meeting ..
Blob is usefull against strong opponents whose limbs he can trap in fat layers and who can't lift him, not so much against slicers from what i know.

I agree. The Blob isn't formitable enough for Wolverine to take on. Maybe it should be someone like Omega Red, or the Silver Samurai. Or the very least, someone that's been a real challenge to Wolverine, mentally and physically.

But what gets me, are these solo hero films that tend to get cheap when it comes to effects and loyalty to the character in his own universe. Punisher seemed like a Rambo movie, and Daredevil was almost something completely different. The first Spider-man movie borderlined on that format, but the first X-Men did just that.

The Horhey

08-02-2007, 10:55 AM

A fight between Blob and Wolverine would be kinda odd, wouldn't it? Either Wolverine just slices him or Blob jumps from a distance on top of him. In either case i can't see a long fight coming from that meeting ..

His purpose is probobly just to make Wolverine look good. Every comic book movie needs cannon fodder. It would make more sense for the Wendigo or Shiva robots to have that role though.

[quote]Blob is usefull against strong opponents whose limbs he can trap in fat layers and who can't lift him, not so much against slicers from what i know.

Wolverine cant hurt him by cutting his stomach, but every other part of his body is vulnerable to the claws.

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Toboe

08-02-2007, 11:25 AM

I am excited about this movie, but... the Blob? Seriously?
Hopefully it's just a rumor or something...

Phil Hunn

08-02-2007, 01:09 PM

This news isn't exactly providing me with an ironclad incentive to go see this movie, but then I wasn't really foaming at the mouth to see Wolverine IV (come on, the X-Movies were Wolverine solo efforts in all but name...).

Veronica_Sawyer

08-02-2007, 01:35 PM

i think its safe to bet that Sabertooth and Stryker are going to make an appearance
IMDB had an article saying that Juggernaut might be in it, but not sure if thats reliable or not.

The Horhey

08-02-2007, 02:08 PM

IMDB had an article saying that Juggernaut might be in it, but not sure if thats reliable or not.

Vinnie Jones is the only keeping this rumor alive.

Sean Whitmore

08-02-2007, 02:17 PM

IMDB had an article saying that Juggernaut might be in it, but not sure if thats reliable or not.

No, probably not.

Just like most of the stuff in this article sounds like circle jerkery. "Confirmed to be approached about possibly being in talks, blah blah blah."

Only thing I'm taking at face value is that Halle Berry won't be in it, and I coulda told THEM that.

SEAN

The Mirrorball Man

08-02-2007, 02:25 PM

At last! A role that us comic book geeks could play! Hey Hollywood, are you listening? Look no further, I'm the Blob!

Bulky Brent

08-02-2007, 02:47 PM

At last! A role that us comic book geeks could play! Hey Hollywood, are you listening? Look no further, I'm the Blob!
I prefer we start using the term Sci Fi Fantasy Lovers ;) I don't know about you but I don't like being labeled as a geek :p

Phil Hunn

08-02-2007, 03:07 PM

At last! A role that us comic book geeks could play! Hey Hollywood, are you listening? Look no further, I'm the Blob!

Hey, I might be a tad doughy, but there's no way I'm that bad.

I prefer we start using the term Sci Fi Fantasy Lovers ;) I don't know about you but I don't like being labeled as a geek :p

Why? People can be geeks about pretty much anything, not just sci-fi or comics - my dad, for instance, is the very definition of a geek when it comes to football/soccer (ask him what the weather was like during a match between Wimbledon AFC and Accrington Stanley in 1846, and he could very likely tell you). The only difference between his geekiness and mine is that his is slightly more socially acceptable, and would win him more points in a pub quiz.

Sean Whitmore

08-02-2007, 03:21 PM

I don't know about you but I don't like being labeled as a geek :p

Then you got the wrooooooong hobby. :)

SEAN

Bulky Brent

08-02-2007, 03:58 PM

Why? People can be geeks about pretty much anything, not just sci-fi or comics - my dad, for instance, is the very definition of a geek when it comes to football/soccer (ask him what the weather was like during a match between Wimbledon AFC and Accrington Stanley in 1846, and he could very likely tell you). The only difference between his geekiness and mine is that his is slightly more socially acceptable, and would win him more points in a pub quiz.
To me it's not just the label I guess it's due to the fact our geekiness is more obscured I just thought that we change the label the point of views will change as well. Your post did help Illuminate some things though :)
Then you got the wrooooooong hobby.

SEAN
Ahhh Touche ;)

Joey

08-03-2007, 03:07 AM

I wish they would show the hot affair between Wolverine and Cyclops in the pst. Not that they ever had one in the books, but I would like to see a hot scene between Hugh Jackman and James Marsden, yummie yummie.

Also a good reason why they couldn't stand eachother later in the X-movies:rolleyes:

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The Mirrorball Man

08-03-2007, 03:50 AM

I prefer we start using the term Sci Fi Fantasy Lovers ;) I don't know about you but I don't like being labeled as a geek :p

I don't mind. And the world doesn't exist in my language anyway, so I'm never labeled as a geek outside of CBR.

Pro

08-03-2007, 03:56 AM

the world doesn't exist in my language anyway

Switzerland is weird .. You could at least acknowledge the world existing even if you want to remain neutral! :p

The Mirrorball Man

08-03-2007, 04:03 AM

Switzerland is weird .. You could at least acknowledge the world existing even if you want to remain neutral! :p

:D We acknowledge that it exists, just not in any of our languages. ;)

steve2275

08-03-2007, 05:06 AM

gotta have mane and cox in this movie

theardri

08-03-2007, 06:40 AM

I know... I actually feel really bad for him. He's one of the poor guys who's power worked against him after that.

He was better off than Chamber! (till grandpa Apocolypse came and made it all better)

Vulgar

08-03-2007, 07:12 PM

patch

08-03-2007, 07:48 PM

god i hope this movie doesnt get off the ground...it gives me that,"this is gonna be disaster" type feeling.

i would give anything for the x-men rights to revert back to marvel, i dont want another mediocre fox made marvel movie.

_Jayme_

08-03-2007, 08:34 PM

Wow..I'd like to see Blob in this movie. I kind of dislike that it's gonna be out of chronology of his life but at the same time..so many elements to Wolverine...So hopefully they pull the best from his long ass history.

Blade X

08-03-2007, 09:20 PM

Sean Whitmore

08-03-2007, 09:24 PM

Speaking of the REAL John Wraith, how come the editors and creators at Marvel seem hell bent on ignoring and/or refusing to acknowledge the characters existence?

White conspiracy.

SEAN

Cthulhudrew

08-03-2007, 09:28 PM

I'm just glad John Wraith is in this movie. Hopfully it'll be the REAL HEROIC AFRICAN AMERICAN John Wraith as created and writen by Larry Hama and not the wimpy back stabbing Wraith writen by Frank Tieri or the non mutant white racist Wraith writen by Mark Millar.

Hear, hear!

Nor the crappy "company man" Wraith written by Christopher Golden in the Codename: Wolverine novel (which is where I almost think Tieri took his characterization from).

Cast Samuel L. Jackson as Wraith, and you're all set!

Speaking of the REAL John Wraith, how come the editors and creators at Marvel seem hell bent on ignoring and/or refusing to acknowledge the characters existence?

I imagine it has something to do with his last appearance, where Tieri seemingly had Sabretooth kill him off. Considering that the character's MO is escaping certain death, it would be so terribly, terribly easy to resurrect him. I think there just aren't enough people who remember/care about the real Wraith to bother, though (sadly).

I'd almost hope that Daniel Way would resurrect him in Wolverine: Origins, but I'm not sure. I like some of Way's stuff (his Bullseye work in particular I really enjoyed), and think he could do a good job, but what he's been doing in Origins isn't exactly to my tastes, so I don't know.

Labman

08-03-2007, 10:01 PM

Hmmmm...it's funny to think of who would fit the part of blob on screen.:D

Blade X

08-03-2007, 10:51 PM

Hear, hear!

Nor the crappy "company man" Wraith written by Christopher Golden in the Codename: Wolverine novel (which is where I almost think Tieri took his characterization from).

Cast Samuel L. Jackson as Wraith, and you're all set!

I imagine it has something to do with his last appearance, where Tieri seemingly had Sabretooth kill him off. Considering that the character's MO is escaping certain death, it would be so terribly, terribly easy to resurrect him. I think there just aren't enough people who remember/care about the real Wraith to bother, though (sadly).

I also thought that Tieri got his crappy characterization of Wraith from the CODENAME:WOLVERINE novel.

Dude, you just read my mind. I also thought that Sam Jackson would be the PERFECT person to play Wraith. In fact, I was going to say that in my previous post, but I wanted to keep my post short and to the point.

Yep, Wraith's asinine death in Tieri's WOLVERINE run could easily be reversed by saying that the Wraith who was killed was an LMD.

BAYANI98

08-04-2007, 09:04 AM

Obviously Wraith was brainwashed by Weapon X.

And you know who was born to play Blob? Chris Farley!

JBKWaka

08-04-2007, 09:14 AM

Ewww the Blob? couldn't they find a better villain :o

_Jayme_

08-04-2007, 09:16 AM

I would have stuck in Omega..Maybe he'll be in though..but seeing the special effects for Blobs attacks and seeing who they cast should be interesting.

Brian "Vash" Ashby

08-04-2007, 12:30 PM

no x-men?

Weak

they should have got jubilee at least

should could have been his "short round"

Bulky Brent

08-04-2007, 04:31 PM

they should have went in the Wolverine Origins direction you know use

Omega,Sabretooth Everyone involved in weapon X

Frank

08-05-2007, 01:13 PM

I hope they recast Sabertooth and get a real actor.

Veronica_Sawyer

08-05-2007, 01:52 PM

they should have went in the Wolverine Origins direction you know use

Omega,Sabretooth Everyone involved in weapon X

I agree, that would be a logical way to go.

Affinity

08-05-2007, 02:20 PM

I think the Blob will be cool. I didn't read the OP but if he's just a villain, not THE villain that carries the movie, then that'll make for some fun fight scenes.

A love interest will be cool but definitely not any of that Silver Fox/Sabretooth shit from Loeb's run. Noooo way.

The Horhey

08-05-2007, 02:35 PM

A love interest will be cool but definitely not any of that Silver Fox/Sabretooth shit from Loeb's run. Noooo way.

Silver Fox is in the movie. Sabretooth kills her right after Wolverine rejects Stryker's offer to join the Weapon X program.

Bulky Brent

08-05-2007, 02:37 PM

Silver Fox that is a dumb character to put in this movie

Affinity

08-05-2007, 03:06 PM

Aw.
If they do it right I guess it's fine.

Maybe he can have several love interests? It's Hugh Jackman, so they can play off that well. If they're going to be hinting on Japan, they could play with Mariko (not the entire plot, of course, that'd be dumb) in a cameo.

Pro

08-05-2007, 03:14 PM

A love interest will be cool but definitely not any of that Silver Fox/Sabretooth shit from Loeb's run. Noooo way.

Blob as Wolverine's love interest then .. ?

Affinity

08-05-2007, 03:55 PM

Sounds hot.
1010101

JBKWaka

08-05-2007, 05:18 PM

They Should have put Deathstrike in this though shes one of my faves :)

The Horhey

08-06-2007, 09:11 AM

I read the first part of the script a few months ago.

Act 1 is Logan and his chick - Silver Fox at their house in Canada. It goes into how hot they are for eachother for obvious reasons. Cant remember exactly, but Logan is either a Lumberjack, a Blacksmith, or a Carpenter.

Stryker visits Logan at his house while hes chopping wood and tells him there is a mutant serial killer/rapist/cannibalist called Sabretooth apparently attempting to whipe out the mutant population, and that his department in the US government has been tasked to recruit a mutant capable of either killing or capturing him.

Stryker then tells Logan that hes the mutant his department is certian would be capable of taking down Creed IF hed be willing to join a secret program that would enhance his abilities. Logan says sorry, not interested. Stryker says something about it being his patriotic duty to serve his country. Logan replies by saying hes Canadian, not American. So Stryker gets pissed and leaves on a chopper.

Next scene, on his birthday, Logan comes home and finds Silver Fox mutilated and raped and sees "happy birthday" written on the wall with Silver Fox's blood. He goes nuts, picks up the scent of the killer, and follows it into town where he finds Sabretooth. He goes berserk, pops his bone claws and attacks Creed. They brutily cut eachother up. In the end, Creed fu$%s Logan up and leaves him koed.

Almost all the flashbacks of Silver Fox and Sabretooth in the Evolution arc are in the script.

Anyways, after Logan heals, he does his homework on Creed and finds out hes the same mutant Stryker SAYS his department is after. Then Logan finds Stryker and tells him he changed his mind and that he'll join the program so he can avenge Silver Fox.

Its pretty obvious Creed is working for Stryker though.

End of act 1.

rwsmith

08-06-2007, 09:15 AM

The Horhey

08-06-2007, 09:45 AM

Sounds pretty good to me, but it would be much better without the bone claws (like it was in the original story, before the bone claws retcon).

IMO the claws in the movies look too much like blades, so they should just be implants. Besides, didn't Stryker already say that he "gave Logan claws" in X2?

Yea, he did say that, but he could of just meant that he enhanced them. As far as I know, the bone claws part of the script is set in stone. The movie is largely referenced from the Weapon X graphic novel by Barry Windsor Smith, and the Wolverine mini series by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller.

This movie is gonna smoke Iron Man and Hulk 2 imo. BET!

Blade X

08-06-2007, 10:03 AM

Yea, he did say that, but he could of just meant that he enhanced them. As far as I know, the bone claws part of the script has been set in stone. The movie is largely referenced from the Weapon X graphic novel by Barry Windsor Smith, and the Wolverine mini series by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller.

This movie is gonna smoke Iron Man and Hulk 2 imo. BET!

I have some questions for you about John Wraith in the movie.

1. Is he going to be African American like he was in the 616 MU?

2. Is it set in stone that he will be a mutant teleporter like he was in the 616 MU?

3. Will he be portrayed like the heroic character that Larry Hama created him to be (and not that back stabbing coward writen by Golden Tieri), who would risk being court marshaled in order to help his Weapon X buddy's, Logan and Maverick?

4. Will he die in the movie? I hope not, because I'm really tired of the whole "heroic black man dying" in the movies (and comics) cliche.

The Horhey

08-06-2007, 10:10 AM

I have some questions for you about John Wraith in the movie.

1. Is he going to be African American like he was in the 616 MU?

2. Is it set in stone that he will be a mutant teleporter like he was in the 616 MU?

3. Will he be portrayed like the heroic character that Larry Hama created him to be (and not that back stabbing coward writen by Golden Tieri), who would risk being court marshaled in order to help his Weapon X buddy's, Logan and Maverick?

4. Will he die in the movie? I hope not, because I'm really tired of the whole "heroic black man dying" in the movies (and comics) cliche.

The only part of the script that I could read (leaked to Latino Review) was act 1, and Wraith hadnt been introduced yet.

rwsmith

08-06-2007, 10:29 AM

Yea, he did say that, but he could of just meant that he enhanced them. As far as I know, the bone claws part of the script is set in stone. The movie is largely referenced from the Weapon X graphic novel by Barry Windsor Smith, and the Wolverine mini series by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller.

This movie is gonna smoke Iron Man and Hulk 2 imo. BET!

Oh, I have not doubt it's going to be great. I just always hated the bone claws for some reason. For one thing, the claws look like blades, not bones coated in adamantium. But, having said that, I've grown used to them over the years, so it won't bother me that much if they're in the movie.

Bulky Brent

08-06-2007, 10:32 AM

This Movie is going to suck Hugh Jackman as Wolverine is Just wrong

The Horhey

08-06-2007, 10:36 AM

This Movie is going to suck Hugh Jackman as Wolverine is Just wrong

Im pretty sure there is nothing controversial in saying this statement qualifies as an absurdity.

YOU ARE WRONG!

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rwsmith

08-06-2007, 10:39 AM

Agreed. Jackman rocks as Wolverine. And I think the millions of folks who shelled out their hard-earned cash for the 3 X-men movies would agree!

The Horhey

08-06-2007, 11:53 AM

Agreed. Jackman rocks as Wolverine. And I think the millions of folks who shelled out their hard-earned cash for the 3 X-men movies would agree!

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Even the typical sissy Titanic lovin film "critics" who gave X3 mediocre-poor reviews agree.

"The only real standout is an impossibly charismatic Jackman, who manages to keep his dignity even when rattling off a stream of ridiculous action-movie quips."

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Phil Hunn

08-06-2007, 01:07 PM

Sounds pretty good to me, but it would be much better without the bone claws (like it was in the original story, before the bone claws retcon).

It's all Barry Windsor-Smith's fault, is what it is.

Agreed. Jackman rocks as Wolverine. And I think the millions of folks who shelled out their hard-earned cash for the 3 X-men movies would agree!

Indeed so. Like that critic said, Hugh Jackman was pretty much the only reason X3 wasn't a total crapfest, and the two previous X-Movies cemented him as THE actor to play Logan.

JBKWaka

08-06-2007, 06:10 PM

Indeed so. Like that critic said, Hugh Jackman was pretty much the only reason X3 wasn't a total crapfest, and the two previous X-Movies cemented him as THE actor to play Logan.
he so totally fits the role and is one of the reasons people stuck with the X-Movies it's great that they decided to make a Wolverine movie now lets hope that the story and the script are good

Cthulhudrew

08-06-2007, 06:39 PM

I read the first part of the script a few months ago...

Almost all the flashbacks of Silver Fox and Sabretooth in the Evolution arc are in the script.

That would be quite the trick, since the Evolution arc just finished (and couldn't have been finished, scriptwise, more than a few months ago), and the script is being written by David Benioff, not Jeph Loeb.

More likely that, if scenes like this were in the script, they were taken from the original Claremont (and expanded Hama) scenes of Silver Fox/Logan/Creed.

Cthulhudrew

08-06-2007, 06:42 PM

3. Will he be portrayed like the heroic character that Larry Hama created him to be (and not that back stabbing coward writen by Golden Tieri), who would risk being court marshaled in order to help his Weapon X buddy's, Logan and Maverick?

Not to mention, it seemed (to me) that Wraith was no longer working for the government, even if he still maintained ties with them. He pretty much came across as a free agent (and with his powers, why wouldn't he be?) rather than a "company man".

Heck, Maverick was far more the company man than Wraith was. Even squaring off against his buddies in Weapon X for a time.

Blade X

08-06-2007, 07:23 PM

Not to mention, it seemed (to me) that Wraith was no longer working for the government, even if he still maintained ties with them. He pretty much came across as a free agent (and with his powers, why wouldn't he be?) rather than a "company man".

Heck, Maverick was far more the company man than Wraith was. Even squaring off against his buddies in Weapon X for a time.

That's a very good point.

What also pissed me off about Wraith's death in Tieri's story, was that Tieri created a new character a few issues later who had similar powers to Wraith, who helped out Logan like Wraith,who dressed like Wraith,and used guns like Wraith. Now unless that character was intended to be Wraith all along, this makes Tieri seem like an even bigger hack then I thought he was.