View Full Version : Batman Workout?
Thomson
08-02-2007, 03:09 AM
Hey, everyone. This is my first post here at CBR. I've been doing some research, looking at various websites, etc, but I haven't really come up with any good answers. My question is:
What kind of workout do you think Batman does?
You can use evidence from comic books, movies, tie-in novels, etc.
Captain Jim
08-02-2007, 07:07 AM
Welcome to CBR, Thomson. :)
pendragon
08-02-2007, 07:40 AM
Hey, everyone. This is my first post here at CBR. I've been doing some research, looking at various websites, etc, but I haven't really come up with any good answers. My question is:
What kind of workout do you think Batman does?
You can use evidence from comic books, movies, tie-in novels, etc.
Funny you brought this up.
At least with most of the costume athletes like Bats, DD, Nightwing, etc, you see them exercising.
What about heroes that have powers or tech, how do they stay in shape.
You never see Stark, Pym or Steel working out.
How do they stay in shape?
But back on topic....
In Batman Year One, you see him praticing on some trees.
In Batman/Grendel, Bats is doing push ups with his legs up in the air, over his head.
Thought you folks wouldl like this:
I've recently discovered Batman's secret weapon for muscle growth. No, it isn't a result of some fancy new training gadget that only he could afford, or because he gets an extra T boost from making out with hot chicks like Catwoman. Hell, it's not even because he changes actors every damn movie he makes! The real secret behind Batman's muscular physique lies in his lack of fasting throughout the night. While he's running around at night fighting crime, he occasionally takes a break for a protein shake.
This means that he gets less sleep than the average guy, but he also maintains a longer anabolic state and minimizes muscle catabolism at the same time. Batman also uses nighttime meals when dieting to actually help strip off fat! You'll note that the sidekick Robin looked nothing like his mentor, and that's because he was too damn lazy to get off his ass and eat at night. Hell, I think that even Alfred the butler could have kicked Robin's pansy ass!
How Batman Gets His Muscle....
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459879
shaolin_kobudo
08-02-2007, 01:19 PM
yeah, i've been wondering about his training for a while since i'm a big weight training fan myself - I've seen a smith machine, bench and squat rack in the batcave before.
I'd like to know what he benches - anyone seen pics? I recall seeing 4 plates a side (405lbs) on his bench before (which puts him ahead of me!), but then I'm pretty sure he's a steroid user! After all, if you were driven enough to train as hard as he does, surely you'd be willing to take the long term health risk for such an enormous performance boost. I remember Alfred making some mention of 'all the chemicals he (bruce) puts in his body' at some point and I got the impression it wasn't just the various antitoxins he takes.
Of course in the real world, the muscle size he carries at such a low bodyfat with such a high cardio performance is unattainable without steroids.
Project 22
08-02-2007, 01:47 PM
While I don't agree with the fact that a person cannot get to that size (Bruce is 6'1 and approximately 210 lbs according to all the things I have seen in DC), I wouldn't put it past him to use steriods as an enhancement, not as a drug, but only initially, because it is far harder to gain than maintain a weight.
There is also the factor genetics. If someone is genetically predisposed to having a good, strong, lithe build, it is far easier for them to be able to gain as well as keep that type of build.
As to what he does when he exercises, I am sure he does WAY too much cardio and spends a ton of time lifting weights as well as training with martial arts instructors (despite what a lot of people think, you have to continually train to get better or stay consistent, anything else makes you sloppy, just in a more dangerous way than other).
The amount of weight varies and I would assume that Batman, like many people who are into physical fitness is getting personal training so that he had have the best knowledge of what researchers say is best for the time, which by what the trainers that I have worked with have said, lots of slow reps with light weight and a good diet regime.
Oh...and by the way. Batman looks the way he does because that is how people draw him. He isn't a real character. If you are interested in how to get built up, look at people in real life. Look at what Christian Bale did to become Batman, look at Brad Pitt. If you want to be bigger than them, look at Charles Atlas, Arnold Schwarzenegger, or Lou Ferrigno.
He's a drawing people. No need to over analyze why he is drawn how he is. The answer is because that is how they wanted him drawn.
Kara Zor El
08-02-2007, 01:52 PM
I Legends of the Dark Knight: Venom, we saw Batman weight training. He'd failed to pull a rock that had a little girl trapped and water was rising around her. Bat's lack of strength meant she drowned. So Batman went all out trying to build up strength, lifting heavier and heavier weights until one of his biceps popped.
That's when he turned to the drug Venom to make him super strong.
I seem to remember him working out in a batcave gym during or around the build up to Knightfall. He worked out with Azrael too. And I remember Azrael, when he was Batman using the batcave gym to, "Iron out some kinks." As he put it after he'd been injured.
But Batma's nights out swinging through Gotham on wires must be one hell of a workout, all by it's self.
But his nights swinging through Gotham on wires and beating thugs with his fists, over and over must be one hell of a workout all by its self
Of course in the real world, the muscle size he carries at such a low bodyfat with such a high cardio performance is unattainable without steroids.
Not true. I work out at a gym with real lot’s of ripped men and women. And they don’t steroids. They simply adhere to a very strict diet and tight exercise regime. If you refrain from sugar and take in a minimum amount of carbohydrates and of course stay off the junk. Then you can be that ripped and tight. He’s only 210lbs, if he were 310lb I would say differently.
It’s highly improbable that Bruce would use steroids. A part from the fact that it would go against his own vanity as a self made man (Part of Bruce’s arrogance is due to the fact that he did it all on his own—he wasn’t born with superpowers). The side effects of taking steroids would be detrimental and interfere with his ability to function as Batman.
You guys should check out gymjones.com
shaolin_kobudo
08-02-2007, 02:44 PM
My comment refered to the modern standard for drawing batman's muscularity, not the 210 pound thing which is absurdly light for his height considering the muscle mass he is always depicted as carrying.
I take project 22's point on analysing the drawn batman - As a bodybuilder, and someone who does adhere 'to a very strict diet and tight exercise regime' as Mia puts it, it's just what I'm most interested in :)
In respect to the self-made man thing, Steroids are no more artificial than protein powders or the antitoxins he uses - I don't buy the argument
As for the side effects of steroids hampering his ability - the side effects have very little bearing on mental or physical performance and can all be avoided using estrogen-blockers and the like. Why do you think athletes use them?
Let's put it this way - If I wanted to become Batman, I'd start taking steroids:D
Scott Evil
08-02-2007, 02:53 PM
Of course in the real world, the muscle size he carries at such a low bodyfat with such a high cardio performance is unattainable without steroids.
I don't know- steroids seem to be more detrimental in the long run in exchange for some short term return. But I guess that was the lesson we all learned from "Venom" and Bane, ain't it.. and if I'm not mistaken, knowing is half the battle!
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u28/Scott-Evil/FamilyGuy1.jpg
Oh...and by the way. Batman looks the way he does because that is how people draw him. He isn't a real character...
He's a drawing people. No need to over analyze why he is drawn how he is. The answer is because that is how they wanted him drawn.
Why thank you Captain Obvious :rolleyes: We're all on a Comic Book Website - I think the OP was operating under "suspension of belief". If the OP was engrained w/ the thought of getting into Batman shape, how the hell does anyone get to look like this?
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u28/Scott-Evil/9bc3bfb3.jpg
Its impossible! This standard set is obviously out of any normal person's reach! Damn you Adam West!
:D
shaolin_kobudo
08-02-2007, 02:53 PM
Oh yeah, one other thing - how does he manage to train and be batman at the same time? I certainly couldn't fight crime after a heavy chest workout, and the soreness of a serious leg workout wouldn't do much for his running :D
shaolin_kobudo
08-02-2007, 02:58 PM
Oh...and by the way. Batman looks the way he does because that is how people draw him. He isn't a real character.
Wait a minute, Batman isn't real? What about santa and the tooth fairy? you're shattering my dreams
Thomson
08-02-2007, 03:36 PM
Thanks for all of the replies, guys. The t-nation article was quite informative.
Scott Evil
08-02-2007, 03:47 PM
Besides my assinine comments :D On to what Scott Evil thinks an actual "Batman"'s training should be. He obviously can't be a bulky/chunky/RIPPED as an Erik Larsen or (Lord forbid) Rob Liefeld drawing, but if someone was in 'peak' cardiovascular shape and had great muscle tone- I'd reference an athlete well versed in the fighting arts and just keeps his body a temple. Someone like MMA fighter Georges St. Pierre:
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u28/Scott-Evil/i.jpg
...and after a few rounds w/ Bane:
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u28/Scott-Evil/2966-StPierreMiller092UFC52.jpg
I'm not exactly a personal trainer in any regards, but I do know a bit about martial arts and training, so I'll focus on that instead of how many lbs. he should bench and how many reps.. If you think of it, a "Batman" type person would basically be a Mixed Martial Artists X 10. A "Batman" doesn't need fancy kicks, loud 'whoop'-ing or big sweeping movements to kick ass; he'd need some BJJ (Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu) training for quick limb breaks, neck snaps, and pressure points. Some Muay Thai, boxing, and TKD (tae kwan do) to round out his quick strikes for knockouts or making room. If you watch the extras in the Batman Begins DVD- the stunt coordinators go into pretty good detail on a relatively new fighting system that they thought fit a "Batman" type fighter perfectly. I think it was called "Kacy" or "Casey" fighting system or something. I thought that was pretty swank.
To summarize, what I'd train in to become a "Batman":
Grappling
-BJJ (breaking fools' arms)
-Judo (throwing fools' around)
-Vale Tudo (killing fools' dead)
Striking
-Boxing (fists)
-TKD (kicks)
-Muay Thai (knees, elbows, etc)
Misc...
-Ninjitsu/stealth training
-Cardio
-Pray to GOD he gave me a jaw of STEEL :D
Thomson
08-02-2007, 04:05 PM
Don't forget Krav Maga. That would also be highly effective in street combat.
Lorendiac
08-02-2007, 04:13 PM
Hey, everyone. This is my first post here at CBR. I've been doing some research, looking at various websites, etc, but I haven't really come up with any good answers. My question is:
What kind of workout do you think Batman does?
You can use evidence from comic books, movies, tie-in novels, etc.
In "Detective Comics #526" (Batman's 500th consecutive appearance in that title; published in 1983) there was a scene where he was going through what was, for him, a normal workout in the Cave. I believe it started with him rupturing a bag and saying, "Alfred, make a note. We need a better grade of punching bag." A bit later, the narrative captions tell us something of what he's doing and inform us that the exertion of what he's already done in this session would kill a lesser man, but just leaves him unsatisfied and wanting more.
If you can find a copy, you can check out the details for yourself and see exactly what type of workout (aside from pounding on a punching bag) he was doing. Been awhile since I actually read that story . . .
shaolin_kobudo
08-02-2007, 04:13 PM
in case anyone was wondering what steroid physiques look like these days or just wanna see a freak show, take a look...
Steroid bodybuilder Vs Natural Bodybuilder
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u125/shaolin_kobudo/markus.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u125/shaolin_kobudo/me107ni1ck.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u125/shaolin_kobudo/aack0113.jpg
Bane's anatomy doesn't seem so crazy now, huh?!!
sorry about the guy in the thong btw!
Thomson
08-02-2007, 04:33 PM
Batman wouldn't use steroids to make his muscles bigger. They would weigh him down. Batman shouldn't be drawn as a man with HUGE muscles. It wouldn't be practical.
Monty_Cristo
08-02-2007, 04:46 PM
Funny you brought this up.
At least with most of the costume athletes like Bats, DD, Nightwing, etc, you see them exercising.
What about heroes that have powers or tech, how do they stay in shape.
You never see Stark, Pym or Steel working out.
How do they stay in shape?
another hero called Pym 'fat' in a sort of recent issue. i know that he was shown lifting weights in the old Tales to Astonish to keep up with guys like Thor and the Hulk, though. i'm imagining that he probably worked in supplements as well since he's a biochemist.
SensorBoy
08-02-2007, 07:06 PM
Bruce (and Tim, Dick and Cassandra. But not, sadly, Stephanie..) has to have a Wolverine-level healing factor, considering the number of crippling injuries he has recovered from.
I don't care who you are, a human only has so many trips to the Trauma Center in him/her, before you start slowing down. The Batgang doesn't even get that much, as Alfred and an IV in the Cave is about as much as they can hope for...
TheLazy
08-02-2007, 07:20 PM
Thought you folks wouldl like this:
Thats bull, sleep is just as, if not more, important that nutrition.
Lorendiac
08-02-2007, 07:28 PM
Bruce (and Tim, Dick and Cassandra. But not, sadly, Stephanie..) has to have a Wolverine-level healing factor, considering the number of crippling injuries he has recovered from.
I don't care who you are, a human only has so many trips to the Trauma Center in him/her, before you start slowing down. The Batgang doesn't even get that much, as Alfred and an IV in the Cave is about as much as they can hope for...
But remember: If the graphic novel "Birth of the Demon" is still in continuity, Batman has been healed from mortal injury by a Lazarus Pit at least once. That experience would presumably have healed a whole bunch of lingering damage from previous nasty injuries, as well, to put him in "perfect health." (After all, when Black Canary took a nice refreshing dip in a pit, not only did it cure whatever nasty injuries she had suffered in the last five minutes in order to save her life, it also restored her long-gone Canary Cry superpower and probably fixed up other scars and things she might previously have been annoyed by from other old injuries.)
Come to think of it, in 1994 Batman got a "psychic miracle cure" from Shondra Kinsolving that restored his ability to walk (completely healing the spinal damage suffered a year earlier in "Knightfall"). Who knows what else that burst of psychic healing energy might have done to rejuvenate his metabolism besides fixing the spinal cord?
And although it's been a long time since I actually read Joe Kelly's "Obsidian Age" arc on the JLA title, I believe Batman (and other members of the JLA) got killed in it, and then were magically resurrected at the end. I mean literally "magically resurrected." That experience could certainly have healed other little things that had started to impair the efficiency of his body over the last few years . . .
TheLazy
08-02-2007, 07:37 PM
Not true. I work out at a gym with real lot’s of ripped men and women. And they don’t steroids. They simply adhere to a very strict diet and tight exercise regime. If you refrain from sugar and take in a minimum amount of carbohydrates and of course stay off the junk. Then you can be that ripped and tight. He’s only 210lbs, if he were 310lb I would say differently.
It’s highly improbable that Bruce would use steroids. A part from the fact that it would go against his own vanity as a self made man (Part of Bruce’s arrogance is due to the fact that he did it all on his own—he wasn’t born with superpowers). The side effects of taking steroids would be detrimental and interfere with his ability to function as Batman.
You guys should check out gymjones.com
Being ripped isn't what he'd want anyway, it's not like he's flashing the hotties. He wants maximum strenght and energy with optimum agility, anyway you look at it that still leaves a bit of chub. I'd put bruce at the weight of an average NFL running back, about 240ibs. And to maintain that weight he'd have to eat a full meal (or replacement) every three hours, which makes me wonder. Take out or lunch box?:D
Oh yeah, one other thing - how does he manage to train and be batman at the same time? I certainly couldn't fight crime after a heavy chest workout, and the soreness of a serious leg workout wouldn't do much for his running :D
I've put this to the test. I used to work at a casino and I'd organize it so that I did my legs on the night before I was doing the poker room (you sit down), but one night I got switch into the main hall and my legs were in so much pain from the work out I was in agony, to the point where I had to leave work, I just couldnt stand in the same spot with my legs locked for that long. It's be physically impossible for batman to patrol every night because I wouldn't be physically be able to pull himself up a ledge on a night after a back/biceps workout, or crouch in a corner spying after a leg workout.
As for a work out, I think he'd do the old fashioned resistance training to gain weight, and alternate it with body weight training for tone. Since he's at the peak perfomance weight, he doesn't want to gain anymore so he'd only have to work each body part once every 14 days (as opposed to every 7 or 5 that most people do) to maintain the strength, which means that if he does a full body every other Sunday, he gets to stay in watch NFL reruns and let robin take to the streets.
SensorBoy
08-02-2007, 08:13 PM
Gotham enjoys 36 hours of night, in order to make room for Tim being able to train, go on dates, patrol and do his homework.
My comment refered to the modern standard for drawing batman's muscularity, not the 210 pound thing which is absurdly light for his height considering the muscle mass he is always depicted as carrying.
Not everyone draws Batman as being huge. Look at Aparo or Neil Adams Batman, that Batman is not hulking and huge and well in line with a man who would be 210lbs. My uncle is 6'2 and while not muscular but he's not slight either and he weighs 185lbs.
In respect to the self-made man thing, Steroids are no more artificial than protein powders or the antitoxins he uses - I don't buy the argument.
I'm not talking about artificiality. I am talking about personal achievement.
There's a big difference between taking steroids and protein powders
People take protein powders as diet suppliments in order to keep their metabolism going. Antioxidants are used to maintain health.
Steroids on the other hand are used as a way to artificially enhance muscle growth. Apart from the deliterious side effects it would have on Batman. He probalbly would consider it to be cheating. Batman prides himself on becoming that way due to discipline and hard work. Not shoving a needle in his vein. Steroid use is for loosers who don't want to put in the time or the effort to develop muscles the natural way.
As for the side effects of steroids hampering his ability - the side effects have very little bearing on mental or physical performance and can all be avoided using estrogen-blockers and the like. Why do you think athletes use them?
Wanna bet? Here are some of the side effects of taking steroids:
• severe acne, baldness, stunted height
• large breast development in boys or men
• reduced fertility in both women and men
• impotence (being unable to get or keep an erection)
• aggression and violent behaviour ("roid rage")
• depression which can even lead to suicide
• abnormalities of the heart, blood clots, high blood pressure, heart attack and stroke
• damage to the liver or liver cancer
• hepatitis or HIV, if the steroids are injected using shared needles.
Some athletes might take steroids but it still does not mean that they don't suffer because of it. My teacher had a buddy who took steroids when he played college football. And he couldn't have chilren, he and his wife had to adopt. There’s no way Batman would risk his health by taking steroids.
Let's put it this way - If I wanted to become Batman, I'd start taking steroids:D
Well I guess if you wanted to physically look like Batman without putting in any of the time and effort it then you would take steroids. But Batman is and has always been more than simply a well built man. He's also a genius and a strategist. What are you going to take to do that?
shaolin_kobudo
08-03-2007, 09:24 PM
He's also a genius and a strategist. What are you going to take to do that?
a genius and a strategist probably wouldn't waste time arguing with someone on a comic book forum, so i'll bow out :)
Ruthless_Pryde
08-29-2007, 04:18 PM
As far as his work out is concerned keep a few things in mind: He has to be as strong as possible while still staying balanced. By balanced I mean he can’t be some muscle bound ‘roid head with no neck. He has to find the right balance between power and bulk and flexibility.
Also, because he is one of the best martial artists in DCU, he has to be able to remain flexible. You could be in Mike Tyson in his prime shape, but you are going to loose some of the flexibility he needs to be an effective martial artist.
His bench, squat, and dead lift don’t really matter in a hand-to-hand-combat situation, it comes down technique. Breaking boards and bricks is not about power so much as it is technique. And being a martial artist if you’re the size of Mr. Universe, I don’t see you performing a 13 move jujitsu, aikido, and judo combo on some mugger. Conversely he has to be strong enough so that he can put maximum power behind each blow. I’m sure there is a balance between the two that he has long since figured out.
Even though good technique can double or triple the power behind a blow, he has to be very, very strong to cover anything martial arts can’t. For example in a burning building if he had to pick up a fallen beam to get somebody out, judo ain’t gonna get the job done.
That and swinging from building to building takes a lot more than the average work out will.
Other factors to consider: he has trained around the world with THE BEST people in their fields. He probably knows more recovery techniques, whether they are herbal, medicinal, meditation, etc. than we see.
His colleagues consist of Kryptonian’s, Thanagarian’s, Martian’s , Amazonian’s , magician’s, mystic’s, Intergalactic Police Officers, a man from Rann, and people who are regarded as some of the smartest people in the world, so I am sure he has picked a thing or two from them also.
That, and he is filthy rich!!! He has can afford the best equipment and has access to the best training material from over the counter to designer stuff. Also, he does own Wayne Enterprise, Kord Industries, and LuthorCorp ( unless this went away with Superboy’s punch too), so God only knows what he has made for himself. And I’m quite sure that Alfred has an old family recipe or two
Combine that with the fact that he is getting a serious workout every nigh he goes out. He is Fighting Crime from around 11 to about 430 or 5 in the morning 6 to 7 days a week.
As far as steroids, the man doesn’t drink or smoke, so I just don’t see him taking the juice.
BooCoo
08-31-2007, 07:04 PM
My comment refered to the modern standard for drawing batman's muscularity, not the 210 pound thing which is absurdly light for his height considering the muscle mass he is always depicted as carrying.
LOL. Looking at Bruce's build, he's got to be more in the 240-255 range (260 if Lee or Turner draw him) I agree, a 210 lb batman would look weird and spindly...that's not much at all on a big man. This argument has come up at other boards I visit and the general agreement is that those 'statistics' make absolutely NO sense when you look at the rendering. DC needs to do an update on stats like Marvel does.
I don't WANT to see a 210 pound Bruce...stick men shouldn't dress as bats.
Superbeast
08-31-2007, 07:33 PM
Based off what I've seen in the comics and movies, my experience in MMA, working with top level trainers, coaches and sports trainers/methodologists, Bats would need to train at least 4-6 hours a day, take multivitamins once a day, glucosamine 3 times a day, protein shakes 2-3 times a day, eat at least 5 times a day cutting out dairy and complex carbs... it'd be a strict regime.
Based on his skill level at this point in time, he probably only needs minimalist refining sessions focusing on loosening his muscles and refining his skill rather than pushing him to the limit.
Realistically, it'd go something like this:
Wake at 7 PM. Wakes up, warms up and stretches.
Jogging: straight after waking for 30 minutes
Shower.
breakfast: cereals with fruit/porridge with sweetener/toast with low fat spread/scrambled eggs/fruit
Martial arts session 1: Aikido 30 mins drills/30 minute live training
Water, short rest, protein bar, protein shake and water.
Martial arts session 2: Judo/Jiu Jitsu/Brazilian Jiu Jitsu semi live drills, 10 minutes each focusing on 4 techniques/ 30 minutes live sparring with protection but employing all forms of the above mentioned grappling arts against fully resisting opponents
Martial arts session three: Yoga, meditation, ninjutsu drills/ 30 minutes random drills while blindfolded.
Lunch: Protein shake, skinless chicken, spinach and other greens, baby potatos, brown rice, fruit based pudding eg baked apple, plum pudding, stewed prunes/plums...
Bruce dresses and goes to Wayne Enterprises after lunch.
Bruce spends his day there until around 6:30, taking a power nap between 2:30 and 4:30 PM.
Bruce arrives home at 7:55 PM, and spends 45 minutes in the pool, doing aquarobics, breath control exercises and using a low impact method of warming himself up after a long exhausting day.
Bruce is in the gym by 8 PM. Following 10 minutes of warm ups and stretching, he is ready. he eats a power meal of red unfatted meat, greens, mash potatos and natural meat based gravy intermittently during his stretching.
Batman spends 30 minutes boxing against pads and then 30 minutes doing Muay Thai training for another 30 minutes. After a brief protein bar/protein shake/water break, he goes back in for 20 minutes freestyle pad work, mixing up grappling, striking and locking. He spends 10 minutes focusing on defensive work and counter attacking against his padded up partner. Alfred then preps the Batsuit while Bruce showers, powders, pops some caffeine pills and shaves before heading to the Batcave for a coffee and a chance to look over the day's accrued date. he heads out just after 11 PM on his night's work with a meat based sandwich, water, a protein shake, a peice of fruit and some extra caffeine pills.
Bats would have to get by on an average of 4 hours sleep a night and two during the day.
Also if he weighed more than 240lbs in terms of muscle mass with less than 15% body fat he'd be at risk of muscles tears, extreme muscle fatigue, exhaustion and dehydration as well as have a very difficult frame to maintain his previously depicted level of athleticism, reactivity and flexibility. Denser muscle fibers/slower reactions/less flexibility/higher rate of injury.
mattx110
08-31-2007, 10:35 PM
a genius and a strategist probably wouldn't waste time arguing with someone on a comic book forum, so i'll bow out :)
he has a daily game of internet chess with the riddler. nigma is kinda slow after the first couple moves because he's too busy pontificating "riddle me this, who's afraid of bishop to rook D-4? what has a round bottom, a spheric head and is about to kill batman's pawn? etc...".
batman uses that time to comment on youtube videos and chat on the DCboards.
Zombie Superman
09-01-2007, 12:46 PM
I think one thing that's been overlooked in this very excellent and informative discussion is the fact that it's been mentioned often that Bruce Wayne was gifted with a "perfect body," which I think we can assume means he's got a genetic proclivity towards bodily, mental, and physiological health.
As such, any routine he has will be different than it would be for we "normal men," just as a work out routine for an Olympic level athlete is probably something seemingly impossible for us but definitely possible for them.
And I think Bruce should be drawn as lean but well-defined, not unlike Gerard Butler's Leonidas.
The hugely bulky Batman doesn't work with the origin and motivations of the character. The Adams and Aparo versions come to mind.
Z\S/
Valhalla
09-01-2007, 07:29 PM
I'd say a fair amount of Gymnastics would be involved. Look at any male Gymnast they are have a well defined shape but that doesn't take away from their flexibility.
I seem to remember in "Many Deaths" one of the Masters Bruce learnt from was a Gymnastics expert.
Kata's of the various martial arts and maybe even Tai Chi would be part of the daily workout as they involve stretching and exercise in one.
Superbeast
09-01-2007, 07:40 PM
I'd say a fair amount of Gymnastics would be involved. Look at any male Gymnast they are have a well defined shape but that doesn't take away from their flexibility.
I seem to remember in "Many Deaths" one of the Masters Bruce learnt from was a Gymnastics expert.
Kata's of the various martial arts and maybe even Tai Chi would be part of the daily workout as they involve stretching and exercise in one.
I think he was trained in tai Chi and was shown practicing in B:TAS. However I find yoga, particularly ashtanga yoga, to be extremely beneficial as a replacement to Tai Chi.
Also at this point in his career as a crimefighter he'd have the skills of a world class gymnast as part of his muscle memory. He'd need to train it less and less once he got an essential centre of gravity and sense of balance. His flexibility would become more of an issue as he aged rather than his mind and sense of awareness; kill the head and the body dies, not the other way around.
vBulletin® v3.6.4, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.