Uncanny X-Men #489 - Review and Spoilers

[Brian Cronin]

I have not been enjoying this current arc all that much, so my expectations for this issue were not that high, but seeing as how it is written by Ed Brubaker, I figured there had to be a decent chance that the issue would still be good, and, luckily for me, this issue was good.

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Most likely, too much has been made about the problem of decompression in ongoing comic books, to the point where it’s almost become a catch-all critique. But try as I might to avoid using it as a critique, that’s basically been my biggest problem with Brubaker’s Uncanny run so far - the issues seem to be decompressed to an uncanny degree, leaving us with the first two issues of this arc, which felt as though they had MAYBE one issue’s worth of story between them.

That didn’t seem to be the case with this issue, which seemed to advance the plot nicely while still giving us good characterization work, some nice dialogue, a pretty interesting subplot, good use of guest stars capped off with a strong cliffhanger.

The basic gist of the story is that a group of rogue Morlocks, led by the now-alive Masque, are doing acts of terrorism. The X-Men bring in Storm, because of her connection to the Morlocks, to investigate what is going on. The X-Men in the issue are Storm, Warpath, Caliban (who was saved from the Morlocks) and Hepzibah (who is stranded on Earth after the last storyline).

We get some very nice banter between Warpath, Hepzibah and guest-star Johnny Storm, as well as some amusing dialogue from Caliban (he gets nervous while playing video games, because he’s fighting Nazi’s - clever).

Storm shows some good detective work, working with Ben Grimm. Meanwhile, in the book’s subplot, Professor X and Nightcrawler are searching for Magneto. I understand that apparently some folks think that Xavier has been a bit over willing to use his powers without telling people, and that this is a sign that Xavier could be being controlled by some outside influence, and while I suppose that could be true, I think it’s more likely that Brubaker just doesn’t think it’s that big of a deal for Xavier to read some dude’s mind without telling him he’s reading his mind. And there are plenty of instances in the past where Xavier has done so, so the fact that it might contradict an issue by one of the gazillion writers to have written Xavier who had Xavier say he never would do such a thing, I don’t find that as very convincing evidence that this is somehow out of character for Xavier. In any event, the Magneto search storyline is not that interesting, but I found this issue’s bit good, especially as Xavier makes the point that graveyards may be the future of mutant kind. Good bit.

What was especially strong about this issue was Brubaker’s take on the media in the Marvel Universe, from the reporters following Masque’s terrorism (using his powers to reshape people’s appearances to make a group of humans on a subway car look like expressionist paintings) to Masque using a YouTube stand-in to deliver his message of terror to the masses. Great stuff on Brubaker’s part, and I enjoy the reaction that it draws from humans. Well handled characterization work.

Salvador Larocca’s art isn’t great (it’s a big step up from Billy Tan, though), but it was serviceable.

I won’t ruin the cliffhanger, but I LOVE the way that Brubaker plays it fair, which is all I ask with last page reveals. It is seemingly out of nowhere, but really, when you think about it, it really isn’t - it makes total sense, and I dig it. Nice little moment at the end.

I hope this keeps up with the next issue!

Recommended.

-Brian

Cross-posted here (http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2007/08/01/uncanny-x-men-489-review/).

[jarrod]

Loving this arc so far, Brubaker's doing some great "down to Earth" work, he writes Ororo perfectly and Sal's art makes the book infinitely more readable. I hope Skids joins the team after it's over. :D

[jmc247]

I won’t ruin the cliffhanger, but I LOVE the way that Brubaker plays it fair, which is all I ask with last page reveals. It is seemingly out of nowhere, but really, when you think about it, it really isn’t - it makes total sense, and I dig it. Nice little moment at the end.


Bru giving free publicity to You Tube? I really hope the big upcoming plot twist when it comes to Masque (the woman is really a man) that the Uncanny editor hinted doesn't piss me off big time like I fear it will.

[Dagger]

Ugh. The art was horrible, but the story was great. I'm totally hoping we get more Skids after this arc is done. She's a awesome, yet underused character that I would just love to get to see more of.

I will give props to Larocca for one thing: His Skids. She's infinately more attractive under Larocca than she was under Kordey, which isn't really saying much because Kordey's art was just plain horrible on X-Treme.

[jarrod]

I'm just glad we don't have Tan's samey chickenscratch for awhile... shame he's coming back for the crossover. Kordey could take a dump on newsprint and it'd look better than RAFOTSE did. :P

[Dagger]

I disagree. That's what his run on X-Treme looked like, and it was horrible. Srsly, I don't see why he was paid to do that work. My brother's 2 year old could do better work on that title than he did.

[streator]

i'd rather have caliban around, i think.

that may change, though.

[jarrod]

In all seriousness, I liked Tan's X-23 work and a lot of his sketches I've seen floating around look pretty good. But his Uncanny stuff has been downright awful; scribbly junior "Homage Studio" crap, the sort of 90s-kewl drek I usually associate with Image stuff. Pretty much the worst this book has looked since Casey was onboard. I think a lot of blame can probably be heaped on Miki's inks though... Tan's work would improve tenfold if given a perfectionist like Mark Buckingham or Mark Farmer or a gestural risk taker like Dan Green or Klaus Jaunson. Actually, I think Green might be a great fit, he was pretty good at reigning in Silvestri's messier habits way back.

Kordey's Xtreme work was unfortunate, but scheduling had a lot to do with it. When given proper time his work's fanatastic, as shown in the unused pencils he released for Excalibur.... real shame how that whole thing turned out too. :/

[steve2275]

remember when sal http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ben2rz5.jpg was GREAT

[jarrod]

remember when sal http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ben2rz5.jpg was GREAT
I like his current Uncanny/New Universal stuff more than his early Ghost Rider/FF/Excalibur work honestly. Nothing so far touches his Xtreme work though.

[Dagger]

http://images.comicbookresources.com/cons/cci2007/marvel/xmen/Messiah-Complex-Preview.jpg
While you may be sad that Tan's coming back, with images like this, it makes me really, really excited that Tan's coming back! I find it to be far more dynamic, and energetic than the lifeless stuff that Larocca's giving us with this arc. And Wolverine would so fit on this team! We might actually see what it would be like if John had lived, and maybe have Jimmy and Wolvie be constantly trying to compete w/ eachother! If that ever happened, I'd soo be Team Jimmy!!!:p

[jarrod]

The wonky perspectives, stiff figuring, lack of balance and Liefeldian proportions sort of give me a headache actually. Tan's more straightforward X-23 stuff was way, way better. Larocca's in another class entierly though, his worst work slaughters Tan's best, no question.

[Toboe]

I'd vote neither on the poll...

Anyone cares to write a better summary, or at least share the cliffhanger ending? I won't be able to get this in a while...

[We R. Venom]

I voted for Caliban cuz I don't know who the other one is lol.

[Brian M.]

The wonky perspectives, stiff figuring, lack of balance and Liefeldian proportions sort of give me a headache actually. Tan's more straightforward X-23 stuff was way, way better. Larocca's in another class entierly though, his worst work slaughters Tan's best, no question.


Actually I think Tan's work kills the crap Sal is putting out now.

[Fede]

Great review, Brian. Thanks for not spoiling the end, i would've read it otherwise lol

[Brian M.]

I would vote Hepizbah since she has atleast somekind of connection to the Summers and I would love to see some Cyclop/Hepz interaction.

[Dagger]

The wonky perspectives, stiff figuring, lack of balance and Liefeldian proportions sort of give me a headache actually. Tan's more straightforward X-23 stuff was way, way better. Larocca's in another class entierly though, his worst work slaughters Tan's best, no question.
*rubs eyes* Liefeldian? Seriously? Wow, we must be looking at two totally different artists!

To be fair to 'Rocca, his stuff on NewUniversal fits that title much more than it fits this title, as the New Universe was always meant to be a more realistic universe, his stuff on Uncanny lately is soo stiff, and sooo lifeless, it's yawntastic.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Actually I think Tan's work kills the crap Sal is putting out now.

Seconded.

Stiff, but still better looking.

[jarrod]

*rubs eyes* Liefeldian? Seriously? Wow, we must be looking at two totally different artists!
Those crotchless sausage torsos masquerading as people are certifiably Liefeldian. To Tan's credit though, at least his range spreads to a whopping two facial expressions versus Liefield's one. :P


To be fair to 'Rocca, his stuff on NewUniversal fits that title much more than it fits this title, as the New Universe was always meant to be a more realistic universe, his stuff on Uncanny lately is soo stiff, and sooo lifeless, it's yawntastic.
It does feel a bit empty I think, seems like Sal's largely phoning it in again as it's a bit of a drop from New Universal imo. Still though, my Papillion on an etch-a-sketch would've been an improvement on where this book was 6 months ago visually.

[Kal]

Loved the issue. I love the way Larroca draws Storm; she actually looks black. Great story and I loved the ending - This new arc is already better than the last one.... can't wait for the next issue.

[Diablito]

Gah, I want to know the twist in this issue!
Regarding the poll question, I would rather keep Caliban than Hepzibah. Caliban has a tragic past, a cool design when he is strong, and a funny personality. Hebzibah, on the other hand, is a lame cat lady who speaks like Yoda. BOO hepzibah.

[Hi-Fi]

Loved the writing. I wonder if I can find Masque's video on youtube. That was a fun idea. And great cliffhanger. I'm really glad Skids wasn't exactly what we were seeing. Hopefully she'll play bigger parts after this arc.

Art was crap, though. Horrid stuff. I love Hepzibah, but Larroca is ruining her.

[Jake V]

Gah, I want to know the twist in this issue!

Skids is really an undercover SHIELD agent, working to figure out what Masque and the Morlocks are planning.

[cgar]

i wasnt really into the arc until this issue. i hope it gets better. and who do you think the SHE is that put Masque in charge. Mystique?

[jarrod]

I think the poll should've been about keeping Larocca or Tan...

[rilokyle]

Loved the writing. I wonder if I can find Masque's video on youtube. That was a fun idea. And great cliffhanger. I'm really glad Skids wasn't exactly what we were seeing. Hopefully she'll play bigger parts after this arc.

Ooooh please do tell about this Skids stuff. Is she working undercover against Masque? I sure hope so cos she is NOT a bad person.

[Diablito]

Wow, that's an amazing twist! Thanks Jake V.!

[rilokyle]

Skids is really an undercover SHIELD agent, working to figure out what Masque and the Morlocks are planning.

HOLY SHIT BOMB. I *knew* Ed wasn't going to let me down on that front. Dare I say it? I may actually buy this issue now! LOVES it.

[rwsmith]

Actually I think Tan's work kills the crap Sal is putting out now.

Maybe I'm too easy to please, but I'm digging them both right now. Much more than I am Bachalo or Ramos on the other book.

[Polaris Rocks]

What the heck was wrong with Magneto's face? I know we only saw the right side, but it looked 30 years older then his Excalibur/House of M appearences and it looked scarred.

[Michael P]

My problem with the art isn't Larroca's pencils, it's Jason Keith's coloring. It's all a kind of hazy, grainy wash. He's way too in love with his computer-generated shading, especially when it comes to skin tones.

[G. Wayne]

I'm just glad we don't have Tan's samey chickenscratch for awhile... shame he's coming back for the crossover. Kordey could take a dump on newsprint and it'd look better than RAFOTSE did. :P

I think it's Miki's inks that aren't helping Tan's work in the slightest. Larocca's been goofy since he started altering his style after Extreme X-Men.

[Funkdmonkey]

Concerning the Endangered Species...

After looking at Dark Beast for a while, I think his appearance is far better looking than Beasts new cat like transformation. I wish he went back to human or ape-ish form!


And to jmc247...

Really good analysis, it seems obvious but I couldn't pick it up.

I really hope you're wrong tho. Like you've said, this ploy has been used enough times with Magneto. He such an awesome character on his own, we must they constantly screw around with him and ruin the character! Other than speculation, is there any other credible proof?

[jester1436]

I'm looking forward picking up the issue on Saturday, though Sal's art truly is abysmal right now and knocks that anticipation down a notch. It's ridiculous to say he is better than Tan. I mean, Tan's not amazing, but the low quality of Sal's recent output for this storyline is overwhelmingly bad.

[Diablito]

Was there an Endangered Species mini story in this issue of Uncanny X-men?

[Michael P]

Was there an Endangered Species mini story in this issue of Uncanny X-men?

Yes. Beast and Dark Beast trade barbs at one another and team up.

[drwho]

I actually enjoyed this although the art on the torch was awful. Finally, skids has been redeemed from being brain dead and dumb. I'm just glad that ever since she joined the acoltyes that she has actually been a shield agent.

[Porcelain]

Am a total spoiler whore but really glad I wasn't spoiled before reading it because it worked really well. S'funny, haven't enjoyed any of Brubakers X-men work prior to this, maybe a turning point?

Oh and Hep. Always liked the idea of her, nice for her to have the opportunity to be fleshed out.

and Skids rocks...I'm so easy.

[Red Lotus]

Wasn't a bad issue. I liked what they did with Skids, didn't like the art.


the art on the torch was awful.

I think saying it was awful doesn’t even do it justice.

[dotdotdot]

Wasn't a bad issue. I liked what they did with Skids, didn't like the art.

I think saying it was awful doesn’t even do it justice.

yeah i'm also eagerly anticipating tan's return

[JBKWaka]

Wasn't a bad issue. I liked what they did with Skids, didn't like the art.




I think saying it was awful doesn’t even do it justice.
What they did withskidswas a twist Revealing that she was an Agent of shield the art was bad but I did like theSentinel though it looked cool :cool:

[xmanson]

Enjoyable issue, despite the horrendous art.

Hepz wants so bad to ge in Storm's pants.

[CmX]

This issue wasnt exciting nor did it blow me away (I still don't think Bru while a fab writer does not fit in with the x-universe :( ) it was a decent read.

This arc is moving along surprisingly quick thankfully I just want Messiah Complex to start already! But it feel like this arc and the current storyline over in Carey's XMen is going to contribute to MessiahComplex.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Enjoyable issue, despite the horrendous art.

Hepz wants so bad to ge in Storm's pants.

....


really?

Perhaps i was wrong about brubaker


Also, why didnt Storm let her?

[CmX]

....


really?

Perhaps i was wrong about brubaker


Also, why didnt Storm let her?

Well since this isn't being written by CC she hasn't, but if it was by now they would have been lovers who kickass!!

[Bulky Brent]

This art is just awful though looks like Larocca is trying too hard

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

i always found Austen a temperamental artist

when he likes what he is doing, it shows

when he does not, it shows even better



And since im talking about Larocca and art, i need to again mention that miki butchers it.


Also, i wonder about the script styles and if taht has something to do with it. Full script or what not.

anyone know how Austen or Milligan or Brubaker or Claremont write, script wise?

[xmanson]

....


really?

Perhaps i was wrong about brubaker


Also, why didnt Storm let her?

All I know If Claremont wrote the scenes last issue and the one form this issue, there would be people screaming LESBIANISM!!! thorugh the rooftops in this board.

They seemed weird to me, to say the least.

[_Jayme_]

Wow..After Xavier got his power back he sure is using it more freely..Taking a whole towns minds and shielding him and Kurt from them..Pretty new for Xavier.

Skids is an agent of S.H.I.E.L.D? That's er...different? I dunno...I like the Kurt/Nightcrawler bits, but otherwise..I'm not liking it so much.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

All I know If Claremont wrote the scenes last issue and the one form this issue, there would be people screaming LESBIANISM!!! thorugh the rooftops in this board.

They seemed weird to me, to say the least.

what are these scenes? I must learn of them and become a jedi like my father

[xmanson]

Ah, the clean mind of a youngling...

[CmX]

Wow..After Xavier got his power back he sure is using it more freely..Taking a whole towns minds and shielding him and Kurt from them..Pretty new for Xavier.

Skids is an agent of S.H.I.E.L.D? That's er...different? I dunno...I like the Kurt/Nightcrawler bits, but otherwise..I'm not liking it so much.

Yeah it was weird how Bru wrote it sounding like him shielding Kurt and probing everyone's minds was like something out of this world and creative and cool when it's been done craploads of times.

Also yeah I don't remember Xavier being that forward with his powers especially with outright admitting it on top of that. Oh Bru!

[SnakeEater]

I hated when The Rock would say his name in third person and i hate it more that Caliban says it all the time too. He is annoying and i hope he doesnt stick around, sadly i think he is. Hepzibah is hot though, like a real female version of wolverine, not some stupid clone or whatever.
as for this issue, im not impressed with this arc at all. I keep thinking im reading the messiah complex with all this Masque garbage. just really boring story

[rwsmith]

Yeah it was weird how Bru wrote it sounding like him shielding Kurt and probing everyone's minds was like something out of this world and creative and cool when it's been done craploads of times.

Also yeah I don't remember Xavier being that forward with his powers especially with outright admitting it on top of that. Oh Bru!

Wait, so he's done it craploads of times, but you don't remember him ever being that forward with his powers? Which is it?

I thought his whole explanation to Kurt was precisely because he hasn't been that forward with his powers in the past.

[_Jayme_]

Oh yeah! I forgot to mention who I would want to stay. I would want Hepzibah to stay on the team for the reasons SnakeEater said. I don't like how Caliban is in this new bony type form. And I would love Hepzibah and James to get more in depth. ;) (wink wink :p)

[SnakeEater]

Oh yeah! I forgot to mention who I would want to stay. I would want Hepzibah to stay on the team for the reasons SnakeEater said. I don't like how Caliban is in this new bony type form. And I would love Hepzibah and James to get more in depth. ;) (wink wink :p)

i forgot to the mention the bony caliban too. why add this weak character that feels others feelings? its just...dull

[Anna]

i forgot to the mention the bony caliban too. why add this weak character that feels others feelings? its just...dull

He still seems pretty strong to me.

[HellFrost]

This was an excellent issue.

I couldn't decide which to choose at first but ended up going with Hepzibah. I love strong female characters and she has a lot of potential. I don't however want to see her and Warpath together... EVER! I think that a partnership is cool enough, why bother putting them together. I loved how she saved Storm from falling from the sentinel.

Caliban is soooo cute and I want to hug him forever.:p

[SnakeEater]

He still seems pretty strong to me.

in the appearances ive seen he has been strong, but what exactly did masque do to him? I personally have never liked this character, even when he was a horseman of apocalypse. always with the caliban, caliban, caliban. he is just boring. what can you do with this character to begin with?

[CmX]

Wait, so he's done it craploads of times, but you don't remember him ever being that forward with his powers? Which is it?

I thought his whole explanation to Kurt was precisely because he hasn't been that forward with his powers in the past.

No, I meant telepaths have been cloaking themselves in the past before and when Xavier was doing it this issue Bru wrote it like it was something new and badass.

[Diablito]

Egad, you are all haters. Caliban is infinitely better than Hepzibah because he is funny. Hepzibah is just another stupid cat lady.

[CmX]

Egad, you are all haters. Caliban is infinitely better than Hepzibah because he is funny. Hepzibah is just another stupid cat lady.

I like Caliban too I think he's more interesting than Bru's Warpath.

[Diablito]

I like Caliban too I think he's more interesting than Bru's Warpath.

Yeah! *High five, Borat style*

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Hez was with corsair


Thus chances are she has some trace Corsair spunk on some of her clothes or jewlery or something


Since she has a microscopic amount of corsair with her, she is automatically cooler than everything

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

No, I meant telepaths have been cloaking themselves in the past before and when Xavier was doing it this issue Bru wrote it like it was something new and badass.

Oh yeah


I remember in Phalanx covenant when Emma did it with Banshee, but unfortunately they forgot to hide their puddles

[dotdotdot]

No, I meant telepaths have been cloaking themselves in the past before and when Xavier was doing it this issue Bru wrote it like it was something new and badass.

i didn't read it as intending to be either new or badass
geez

[HellFrost]

No, I meant telepaths have been cloaking themselves in the past before and when Xavier was doing it this issue Bru wrote it like it was something new and badass.

I did in fact catch that...

[jester1436]

Egad, you are all haters. Caliban is infinitely better than Hepzibah because he is funny. Hepzibah is just another stupid cat lady.

No she's not.

Hepzibah is a skunk lady - from space! She's just as unique as an albino mutant who feels feelings and refers to himself in the third person.

[dreyson]

I don't want either caliban or hepzibah to stay. Or larroca either. His art is absolutly horrible.

[Leaper Queen]

What I really did not understand is why the X-men did wear clotes in this issue. They was no reason for that.

[genejoke]

After some of the awful art that has cursed X-men since Grant morrison and joe casy days, Billy Tans art is gorgeous. Someone mentioned Kordey, what? he is ok but nowt special. Sal Lar has turned in some excellent art recently, which seems amazing after the stuff he did with chuck austen.

[Twigglet]

I LOVED this issue.

Holy crap, the X-books are great at the moment.

[GoingGreen]

Billy Tan is currently working on the X-Men: Emperor Vulcan mini, right?

I think he's a terrific artist and produces extremely energetic issues. He has a brilliant way to show movement and fluidity.

Currently, all of Sal's characters look tired, and jokes aside, Storm looks hagardly old in the face. I think Sal's ego is getting to him... he's really stepping down from his former stuff.

[Cayman]

Billy Tan is currently working on the X-Men: Emperor Vulcan mini, right?

I think he's a terrific artist and produces extremely energetic issues. He has a brilliant way to show movement and fluidity.

Currently, all of Sal's characters look tired, and jokes aside, Storm looks hagardly old in the face. I think Sal's ego is getting to him... he's really stepping down from his former stuff.

I believe he's only doing the covers. Paco Diaz is listed as the series artist.

[Bulky Brent]

Billy Tan is currently working on the X-Men: Emperor Vulcan mini, right?

I think he's a terrific artist and produces extremely energetic issues. He has a brilliant way to show movement and fluidity.

Currently, all of Sal's characters look tired, and jokes aside, Storm looks hagardly old in the face. I think Sal's ego is getting to him... he's really stepping down from his former stuff.
I totally agree with you here about storm she does look bad here but say it has more to do with coloring then the penciling in this case I mean everything just seems so dark and bland

Xavier look bad also I'm not entirely sure what type of image they were going for here perhaps they're trying to resemble Patrick Stewart her but I'm thinking more Lex Luthor

[Beast]

Got the issue today. A very good issue, and it's nice to see something finally happen in the storyline. Much like RAFOTSE though, the book seems to trudge along very slowly. Hopefully we actually get some answers before the storyline ends, instead of more questions that will need a mini-series to follow them up like the Shi'ar storyarc did. Nice to see Skids wasn't a complete tool like she seemed in the Blood of Apocalypse story. Plus we can use this story to explain why Skids would side with Poccy. She was working for SHIELD there too.

As for Endangered Species, I loved this issue. Nice to see Beast and Dark Beast together again. I know Carey has wanted this for a while, and teased it as far back as when he came on the book. And I'm so glad that the back-up was written by Mike Carey. His Dark Beast could be a bit more twistedly playful, but otherwise it was a great rendition of the character. He came off as demeaning enough to capture the character quite well. Of course, you can almost see the clock started for when Doc decides to screw his younger "brother" over. Best part of the issue, much like it has been in everything but X-Men so far.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Read the issue today. Excellent issue from Brubaker. The premise of the Morlocks using Youtube and a terrorist attack to use Magneto's name as a way to lure him out is more than I thought they capable of since they don't seem that bright. But a good premise, nonetheless. Now Xavier is aware of their intentions of finding Magneto and he's getting more desperate to locate Magneto now more than ever. It's gonna be a HUGE party when they all come face to face with Lord Magnus.

The backstory? Beautiful. I've waiting for this since 1996 and here it is. Dark Beast vs Beast part III. But this time, unlike with the rematch in X-Factor, they get much better dialogue. Dark Beast pretty much tells Hank the truth over and over again about the possibilities of him being a better version of him and Hank doesn't like it. Always ready to fight him at every snippy word or off intention. That's the kind of tension I expected and it's what we got. Now..the uneasy partnership begins and this story can only get even more better from here. My type of book...A search for Magneto with his next goals being the focus while Dark Beast and Beast race to save mutantkind from extinction? I couldn't ask for anything more.

[Pyro]

This issue was nice. I like the story a lot. The Morlock's plot and terrorism and the way the public responds is all interesting. I wonder if Prof X and Nightcrawler really will find Magneto before the arc is over. Caliban is sooo cute... personality-wise, not physically, I mean, eeww he's so emaciated-looking. Masque is an interesting villain, especially if it's true that he changes his gender sometimes. The humans he screwed up amused me. Hepzibah is funny in the sense that the way she speaks reminds me of the Rugrats.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Larroca is a terribly uneven artist. Some of his stuff is very good, but most of the time his stuff looks really careless. I noticed that he changed Storm's costume into something more like a bathing suit with thigh-high boots which looks kinda good and reminiscent of her original costume, but it looks so tight on her it's disgusting. And those stupid donuts on her wrists make me want to scream. Also, fugliest Johnny Storm I have ever seen... And it looked like he had a wedgie every time his butt was shown. Sal doesn't even give him a cute butt. His Thing looked pretty good though... except for on the cover... no one looked good on the cover. His Masque looks suitably creepy. I think Larroca needs to take a break, refine his skill, and reach that untapped potential.

The back-up was great! Mike Carey and Mike Perkins did superb jobs. Our Beast looks so cute and cuddly compared to Dark Beast, kinda like cookie monster. But Dark Beast is so much cooler, even if he is evil and insane.

[Metallurgique]

It bothers me when people complain about Billy Tan and Sal Larocca.

It could be exponentially worse. Would you rather have Frank Quitely or early Liefeld on these books? I think not.

I like both Sal and Billy's work.

[Christopher O]

It bothers me when people complain about Billy Tan and Sal Larocca.

It could be exponentially worse. Would you rather have Frank Quitely or early Liefeld on these books? I think not.

I like both Sal and Billy's work.
Since Frank Quitely is the best artist currently working in superhero comics, I'd much rather him than Larroca or Tan.

[CmX]

It bothers me when people complain about Billy Tan and Sal Larocca.

Wow do you value our opinion that much?

[MasterOdin]

I have to admit that this storyline isn't really doing it for me. I am trying to give Bru a chance, but this arc (similar to the Shiar one) really hasn't grabbed me.

Part of me wonders if it is because Bru kind of got the leftovers in terms of X-characters to work with. I plan on sticking it out and seeing how things play out once MC is over.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Since Frank Quitely is the best artist currently working in superhero comics, I'd much rather him than Larroca or Tan.

Nah, the best artist working on superhero comics right now is Jo Chen.


Granted, its only covers. But still


Friggin' awesome

[Beast]

I have to admit that this storyline isn't really doing it for me. I am trying to give Bru a chance, but this arc (similar to the Shiar one) really hasn't grabbed me.

Part of me wonders if it is because Bru kind of got the leftovers in terms of X-characters to work with. I plan on sticking it out and seeing how things play out once MC is over.
Not really. He supposedly got to pick his cast before Carey even.

Whedon - Brubaker - Carey.

So it's not like he's working with leftovers. And Carey proves you can do some great stuff with leftovers.

[Affinity]

Nah, the best artist working on superhero comics right now is Jo Chen.


Granted, its only covers. But still


Friggin' awesome

I doubt her sequentials would look as great as those covers do. They look awesome cover-sized but smaller panels would ruin the painted look, IMO. It's possible, though, but I don't know if she has time. Her covers look like a lot of work.

Since Frank Quitely is the best artist currently working in superhero comics, I'd much rather him than Larroca or Tan.


LOVE HIM. Favorite X-Men artist eveerrrr. He's gotten so much better since New X-Men (like in All-Star Superman) that I really will jump with JOY if he gets on the X-Books. Even if BRUBAKER was writing it.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

quitely never flicked my bean

For my money the best x-artist ever still is Art Adams.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Quitely, Larocca, and Bachelo are all off right now. Tan is alright. Michael Turner is excellent as usual. Bring in J. Scott Campbell. He's the people's choice. These pretenders aren't cutting it.

[CmX]

I have to admit that this storyline isn't really doing it for me. I am trying to give Bru a chance, but this arc (similar to the Shiar one) really hasn't grabbed me.

Part of me wonders if it is because Bru kind of got the leftovers in terms of X-characters to work with. I plan on sticking it out and seeing how things play out once MC is over.

Totally agree 100%. His Uncanny hasn't blow me away and this the only x-title I don't axiously anticipate. I love Bru's work, but he just isn't cutting it IMO on Uncanny.

[dotdotdot]

Since Frank Quitely is the best artist currently working in superhero comics, I'd much rather him than Larroca or Tan.

seconded..

[Jake V]

Since Frank Quitely is the best artist currently working in comics, I'd much rather him than Larroca or Tan.

Fixed that for you. :)

[CmX]

Since Frank Quitely is the best artist currently working in superhero comics, I'd much rather him than Larroca or Tan.

Totally agree, I loved his stuff on New XMen. Larroca used to be so good now all of his characters look old and twisted it's freaky. It's so realistic everyone comes out looking fugg. Tan can be good but sometimes his art shows badly when it's rushed and that's cause he's slow as fuck.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Larocca used to be legit during the AoA. What's happened to him? Hell, even his 2003 stuff was halfway good. But now he can't draw lips right? WTF?

[Pyro]

I think Larroca's donut bracelets get on my nerves the most. No, wait... there a lot of other flaws that bug me too.

[CmX]

I think Larroca's donut bracelets get on my nerves the most. No, wait... there a lot of other flaws that bug me too.

I thought I was the only one who disliked that a lot it really bothers me lol

[Steven F.]

I will never see the appeal of Quietly, I think he is one of the worst artists every to draw an issue of an X-Title.

But back to this....I think Salvador is an amazing artist, but I just don't care for his new style. Or any of his later styles. His Excalibur and especially his X-Treme styles were far and away his best work.

[Novaya Havoc]

I will never see the appeal of Quietly, I think he is one of the worst artists every to draw an issue of an X-Title.

But back to this....I think Salvador is an amazing artist, but I just don't care for his new style. Or any of his later styles. His Excalibur and especially his X-Treme styles were far and away his best work.

Agree'd like woah. Even though I hated X-Treme like Amy Winehouse hates bathing, I must say that Sal had some fierce pencils on that title.

I was so excited for him to draw Ultimate Dazzler in Ultimate X-Men Annual 2.

Then I was dissapointed.

And the less said about Quietly, the better IMO. Great artistic style, but not fit for such a mainstream comic franchise.

[Steven F.]

Agree'd like woah. Even though I hated X-Treme like Amy Winehouse hates bathing, I must say that Sal had some fierce pencils on that title.

I was so excited for him to draw Ultimate Dazzler in Ultimate X-Men Annual 2.

Then I was dissapointed.

And the less said about Quietly, the better IMO. Great artistic style, but not fit for such a mainstream comic franchise.

My god......Ben and I agreed on something.

It has been nice knowing everyone. Since today is Armagedon, try to spend it with a loved one.

[Novaya Havoc]

My god......Ben and I agreed on something.

It has been nice knowing everyone. Since today is Armagedon, try to spend it with a loved one.

OH, WE HAVE AGREED BEFORE STEVEN. Jeez, chillax, bro! ;)

[Beast]

Agreed with both of you on Quietly. Wasn't a fan of his New X-Men work at all.

[Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost]

I really liked quietly's work on New Xmen

[Bulky Brent]

To Be Honest it wasn't all that bad though but some covers were just god awful

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Quitely is a great storyteller


But even his attractive characters are fugly as all get out

plus Cyclops always had those "sidekick lips"

[SensorBoy]

Hate Quitely. All his characters look like they are retaining water, in a "holy shit! get the diuretics, STAT!" kind of way.

Nice to see Skids not getting a golden shower from the Writers...

[CmX]

I really liked quietly's work on New Xmen

Me too!

Love ya bitch. <3

[Nyssane]

OH, WE HAVE AGREED BEFORE STEVEN. Jeez, chillax, bro! ;)

He doesn't like Frenzy anyway, thus his opinions are completely void.

[Elias Bogan]

This issue was better than the last 14 but that still is not saying much then they were so horrible. Brubakers handling of Johnny and Ben makes me fear for the day that he takes over Fantastic Four as its writer. And Larrocca's art is downright awful.

Also, does anyone think that the "she" Caliban is referring to that made all those drawings is Destiny?!? Brubaker does love bringing people back to the dead and we never actually saw her die on panel though Raven did sense the death in UXM 255. They could easily (and stupidly) retcon it was Legion just sent Irene somewhere into the past where she then wrote that stuff on the Morlock tunnel walls.

[_Jayme_]

I surely hope Destiny stays dead. The diaries idea was no good..it's just about as bad as this arc, tbh. I wouldn't read this if it didn't all lead up to Messiah CompleX.

Johnny looked fairly decent..Ben Grimm looked well...err..grim. :p

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

destiny should stay dead, unquestionably


but the diaries subplot should be picked up again

it was interesting

[Slung]

First issue of Brubaker's I've really enjoyed - and that was pretty much because of the last panel.

I hope all of the terrible characterization Skids has endured for the past...oh...17 years or so, is swept under a huge retcon rug.

Caliban or Hepzibah...neither? I like them both as a supporting characters, but I'm completely ambivalent about their inclusion on the roster.

As for the art: I love Sal...well the Sal of five years ago. His X-Treme looked pretty amazing I will say. Everything since is getting uglier and uglier. His current work is, sad to say, abysmal. I would certainly take Tan over this any day.

As for Bru having boring characters - he left HALF his team in space. Its his own FAULT!

[CmX]

First issue of Brubaker's I've really enjoyed - and that was pretty much because of the last panel.

I hope all of the terrible characterization Skids has endured for the past...oh...17 years or so, is swept under a huge retcon rug.

Caliban or Hepsibah...neither? I like them both as a supporting characters, but I'm completely ambivalent about their inclusion on the roster.

As for the art: I love Sal...well the Sal of five years ago. His X-Treme looked pretty amazing I will say. Everything since is getting uglier and uglier. His current work is, sad to say, abysmal. I would certainly take Tan over this any day.

As for Bru having boring characters - he left HALF his team in space. Its his own FAULT!

I agree I only really enjoyed his Deadly Genesis mini and the first two issues of the 12 storyarc and since then I haven't really been excited and anything so far. Which is a shame cause I love Bru just not his Uncanny.

[Beast]

destiny should stay dead, unquestionably


but the diaries subplot should be picked up again

it was interesting
Well, Carey is playing with it now. So at least it's finally being dealt with.

Tis a shame that the scene with Vargas had to be cut for time though.

[Bulky Brent]

To be honest I wouldn't mind seeing another Rogue and Vargas confrontation in this book sometime down the road

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Im still certain that Rogue killed vargas

[Bulky Brent]

Dude I'm pretty sure she spared him he and Rogue have to have a rematch ;)

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

he hasnt shown up since that issue, and we never really saw (from what i remember)


I think destiny is spot on

[Bulky Brent]

It might have been for told in the diaries but he most likely didn't die and Carey should bring him in this book not now but sometime in the future that is if Claremont doesn't still have dibs on him

[Dagger]

NOOOOOOOOOO! No more Vargas! He was the lamest thing about the first storyarc in X-Treme! Okay, second lamest thing, right after his henchmen Thais, and Thaiis.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

vargas was cool


I like the idea of a supervillain with only one rather small goal in mind

"Kill Rogue, so she doesnt kill me"


compact

interesting. Plus he had fabulous hair and he stuffed Psylocke's body and used it as a trophy. Creepy

[Dagger]

We'll have to disagree. Vargas was a long way from cool. He was about as bad as Khan was, and Khan was horrible imo.

[Bulky Brent]

You're comparing Vargas to Kahn thats a totally bad comparison Vargas was

more of a bad ass by far

[Dagger]

I'm comparing them in terms of execution. As in they were both really, really bad characters in the book. I cared nothing for them, they were both bland and yawn worthy adversaries against the team, with no real motivation for them taking on the X-Men. Much like most of the villians that have crossed the X-Men's path since CC returned to the X books.

Ho hum...my name is Vargas, and I totally can plunge my huge sword into a freaking telekinetic and kill her.

And as for Khan, of all the places he can conquer he chooses Madripoor as the first? Seriously lame.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I'm comparing them in terms of execution. As in they were both really, really bad characters in the book. I cared nothing for them, they were both bland and yawn worthy adversaries against the team, with no real motivation for them taking on the X-Men. Much like most of the villians that have crossed the X-Men's path since CC returned to the X books.

Ho hum...my name is Vargas, and I totally can plunge my huge sword into a freaking telekinetic and kill her.

And as for Khan, of all the places he can conquer he chooses Madripoor as the first? Seriously lame.

Thats not really fair. Vargas had a clear cut motivation for fighting the x-men. Rogue was going to kill him as per the dairies

Hell thats a better motivation than most x-villains, who seem to just be evil in their own area before the x-men stumble across them

[Dagger]

Thats not really fair. Vargas had a clear cut motivation for fighting the x-men. Rogue was going to kill him as per the dairies

Hell thats a better motivation than most x-villains, who seem to just be evil in their own area before the x-men stumble across them
But he didn't have a diary to know about all that until he took it from Betsy's casket iirc.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Nah he had a diary, im pretty sure


He took a rose, and her body, out of the casket

[Dagger]

I'll have to re-read it, but I still don't see the point in him. He attacked the X-Men to stop Rogue from killing him, but it probably would never have happened if he hadn't attacked the X-Men in the first place because they had never heard of the guy. I will say, I did like the Sebastian Shaw and Lady Mastermind plot much better.

[Beast]

I'll have to re-read it, but I still don't see the point in him. He attacked the X-Men to stop Rogue from killing him, but it probably would never have happened if he hadn't attacked the X-Men in the first place because they had never heard of the guy. I will say, I did like the Sebastian Shaw and Lady Mastermind plot much better.
That's pretty much the whole point. Vargas was so obsessed with the prophecy that he would be killed by Rogue... that he made the biggest mistake in any story involving prophecy. Putting into motion the events that will lead to said prophecy coming to pass. It's referred to as a Self-Fulfilling Prophecy. Standard in Literature. That's why Storm and the others considered the Diaries so dangerous, because not only could someone dangerous get ahold of them and use them for evil. Someone like Xavier could get ahold of them and in attempting to prevent those warnings, succeed in bringing about the events that are described anyway.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Yeah, its like taht in most things involving prophecy

Look at Macbeth or Harry potter

etc

[Roo]

I'm not getting the ambivalence to Larocca's new style. There was nothing at all special about his early work, and his work at the turn of the century was also bland, the uninked pencils being what made it stand out. I just HATED his work... I think it's far more interesting now.

Although if Tan's art is up to the standard in the preview then I'll be happy for that too... I hated mosty of his work up until this point, it reminded me of Andy Kubert's X-Men run where everything looked 'squidgy' (for a lack of a better word)

[Beast]

Yeah, its like taht in most things involving prophecy

Look at Macbeth or Harry potter

etc
To quote Dr. Kelso, "Bingo Bango."

[Dagger]

Eh, I still didn't care for him, and really don't want to see him return, no matter who's writing the book. Self-fulfilling prophecy or not. I'm much more interested in seeing what's going to happen with Sebastian Shaw and Sunspot. Plus, I'd really like to see someone bring back Magma and Empath. He hasn't been mentioned since X-Treme. And whatever happened to Bogan? If he's just another incarnation of the Shadow King, then good riddance, but I don't recall that plot ever being finished.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I dont really want to see him return either

Mostly because im sure that Rogue killed him

But also because he was a one note villain, all be it an interesting one, but he has shot his load already, so to speak, and thus has no need to show up again

[Beast]

Eh, I still didn't care for him, and really don't want to see him return, no matter who's writing the book. Self-fulfilling prophecy or not. I'm much more interested in seeing what's going to happen with Sebastian Shaw and Sunspot. Plus, I'd really like to see someone bring back Magma and Empath. He hasn't been mentioned since X-Treme. And whatever happened to Bogan? If he's just another incarnation of the Shadow King, then good riddance, but I don't recall that plot ever being finished.
With the ES One-Shot and teases, I expect Carey has a Hellfire Club storyarc brewing.

As for Magma and Empath, both had pretty major roles in X-Men: The 198.

As for Bogan, he's not been followed up either. So I'd say expect Carey there also.

As for any link to the Shadow King, it's possible. Sage's tattoos didn't reappear until after the Shadow King attacked her in NEX. But that simply could be due to the fact artists forget to draw them regularly, and CC re-established them when Sage lost control of herself. If anything, he may be a similar type of psychic entity. Especially since from the images of his home in X-Treme he's been around for a very long time.

[Michael P]

When did this thread stop being about Uncanny X-Men 489?

[Beast]

When did this thread stop being about Uncanny X-Men 489?
It's been 9 pages. Discussions grow, change, go in unexpected directions. :)

[Dagger]

With the ES One-Shot and teases, I expect Carey has a Hellfire Club storyarc brewing.

As for Magma and Empath, both had pretty major roles in X-Men: The 198.

As for Bogan, he's not been followed up either. So I'd say expect Carey there also.

As for any link to the Shadow King, it's possible. Sage's tattoos didn't reappear until after the Shadow King attacked her in NEX. But that simply could be due to the fact artists forget to draw them regularly, and CC re-established them when Sage lost control of herself. If anything, he may be a similar type of psychic entity. Especially since from the images of his home in X-Treme he's been around for a very long time.
I never picked up the 198 mini, I may have to to see what happened there.

I really hope Bogan and S.King are not one and the same. While I'm all for exciting new villians, not so much with new Shadow King developments, and how CC usually went about having the S King responsible for soo much that happened in the world really soured him on me.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

When did this thread stop being about Uncanny X-Men 489?

havent you ever did that thing where someone starts off with a sentence and then says it to the next person and so on and so on down the line until the sentence is completely different


thats how comic threads go. Cascade like

[Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost]

With the ES One-Shot and teases, I expect Carey has a Hellfire Club storyarc brewing.
As for Magma and Empath, both had pretty major roles in X-Men: The 198.
As for Bogan, he's not been followed up either. So I'd say expect Carey there also.
As for any link to the Shadow King, it's possible. Sage's tattoos didn't reappear until after the Shadow King attacked her in NEX. But that simply could be due to the fact artists forget to draw them regularly, and CC re-established them when Sage lost control of herself. If anything, he may be a similar type of psychic entity. Especially since from the images of his home in X-Treme he's been around for a very long time.

I swear you don't pay attention to anything you read, or maybe just insinuate what you THINK you read into your wrong observations.

Carey has NEVER EVER EVER stated any plans for the Hellfire Club! What just because Shaw showed up in the ONE SHOT there's something brewing?

Pfft.

Carey said himself in an interview or Q & A it was just a guest appearence.

Carey's been itching to get back to the Children of the Vault and has even said that after all this Messiah crossover that he's going to return to them.

[Dagger]

I swear you don't pay attention to anything you read, or maybe just insinuate what you THINK you read into your wrong observations.

Carey has NEVER EVER EVER stated any plans for the Hellfire Club! What just because Shaw showed up in the ONE SHOT there's something brewing?

Pfft.

Carey said himself in an interview or Q & A it was just a guest appearence.

Carey's been itching to get back to the Children of the Vault and has even said that after all this Messiah crossover that he's going to return to them.
Maybe someone else is planning on bringing back the Hellfire Club. Plus, Carey has stated that he has some plans for Sunspot, and having Sebastian mentioning Sunspot kinda helps support that statement. I don't think Beast was insinuating anything, just making an observation at some hints that have been layed out for us.

[Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost]

Carey's said he has plans for a lot of characters that doesn't mean you jump to storyarc conclusions.

We all know Messiah isn't over until around Feburary and after that he'll do the Children Part II (b/c he SAID he would) that might be a 4-6 issue arc.

I highly doubt he's even worked things out that far.

[Beast]

I swear you don't pay attention to anything you read, or maybe just insinuate what you THINK you read into your wrong observations.

Carey has NEVER EVER EVER stated any plans for the Hellfire Club! What just because Shaw showed up in the ONE SHOT there's something brewing?

Pfft.

Carey said himself in an interview or Q & A it was just a guest appearence.

Carey's been itching to get back to the Children of the Vault and has even said that after all this Messiah crossover that he's going to return to them.
You should pay closer attention. Because he has teased Hellfire stuff.

[Beast]

Maybe someone else is planning on bringing back the Hellfire Club. Plus, Carey has stated that he has some plans for Sunspot, and having Sebastian mentioning Sunspot kinda helps support that statement. I don't think Beast was insinuating anything, just making an observation at some hints that have been layed out for us.
Exactly. Some people need to not react with violent crazy rage when there have been clues.

[Beast]

Carey's said he has plans for a lot of characters that doesn't mean you jump to storyarc conclusions.

We all know Messiah isn't over until around Feburary and after that he'll do the Children Part II (b/c he SAID he would) that might be a 4-6 issue arc.

I highly doubt he's even worked things out that far.
Yeah, there's no way he has anything planned for after Messiah Complex.

Even though that's what the X-Summit they just had after the SDCC was all about. Submitting and Planning together and hashing out the next YEAR of stories post Messiah Complex. :p

[Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost]

You'd think someone that's been posting as much/as long as you have you'd have learned how to quote from multiple people in one post instead of clogging up the thread with 3 different posts all by yourself.


Where exactly are these hints at the Hellfire Club? Other than Shaw being in a one-shot that has nothing to do with Carey's own storyarcs.

Are these "patterns" something only you can see?

Lets see:

Sabertooth, Children of the Vault, Mauraders, Exodus, Hetacomb, Strain 88, Gambit.

I'm sorry I'm not seeing anything related to the hellfire club.

[Hi-Fi]

Carey said a couple of times that he has a lot of interest in writing the Hellfire Club and Sunspot. That doesn't mean we're gonna see him actually writing them soon, but he does want to. That's why he put Shaw on the One-shot.

But yeah, I think that he'll deal with Serafina and the Children once the crossover is done.

[Dagger]

Selene popping up over in New X-Men. Sebastian over in the one-shot commenting on Roberto, and his leadership. Him making a comment about Emma. Having Lady Mastermind join up, when last she was seen was working for Sebastian Shaw. Carey making a comment that not all of the Marauders are what they seem, could possibly be a hint that maybe Lady Mastermind is a triple agent, first getting info on the X-Men, and then getting info on the Marauders, Mr. Sinister and the Acolytes. Wouldn't that be a slap in the face of Sage, actually being a better spy than that sack of crap:p

ICEF, were just speculating, were not saying anthing is concrete, just making some guesses on what we think might happen.

[Beast]

Selene popping up over in New X-Men. Sebastian over in the one-shot commenting on Roberto, and his leadership. Him making a comment about Emma. Having Lady Mastermind join up, when last she was seen was working for Sebastian Shaw. Carey making a comment that not all of the Marauders are what they seem, could possibly be a hint that maybe Lady Mastermind is a triple agent, first getting info on the X-Men, and then getting info on the Marauders, Mr. Sinister and the Acolytes. Wouldn't that be a slap in the face of Sage, actually being a better spy than that sack of crap:p

ICEF, were just speculating, were not saying anthing is concrete, just making some guesses on what we think might happen.
Exactly. No need to have foam at the mouth because people are talking about hints and stuff that have been dropped and teased on panel as well as in various interviews and personal appearances.

[Hi-Fi]

Mike also said that he'd love to write me in the X-Books, but editorial is NOT allowing!

[Dagger]

Mike also said that he'd love to write me in the X-Books, but editorial is NOT allowing!
Damn those editors! They ruin everything!!!:evilangry

Edit: Wouldn't that be a kick in the head, if he had you as a character who died 5 minutes into an issue, and all you were doing is asking about Rogue:p

[Beast]

Mike also said that he'd love to write me in the X-Books, but editorial is NOT allowing!
Hmm, that's weird. They never seemed to have a problem with the uncredited cameos in the past.

[Hi-Fi]

Damn those editors! They ruin everything!!!:evilangry

Edit: Wouldn't that be a kick in the head, if he had you as a character who died 5 minutes into an issue, and all you were doing is asking about Rogue:p
I'm down with that!

Hmm, that's weird. They never seemed to have a problem with the uncredited cameos in the past.
LOL, I'm only partially kidding. I did joke about it and he said I should have musical powers because of my username. I giggled! :o

[Anna]

I never picked up the 198 mini, I may have to to see what happened there.

I really hope Bogan and S.King are not one and the same. While I'm all for exciting new villians, not so much with new Shadow King developments, and how CC usually went about having the S King responsible for soo much that happened in the world really soured him on me.


If they were, wouldn't Storm have picked up on it; seeing as she has a connection to both?

[Jack Flash]

i freaking loved this issue. It was fantasticness on paper. Skids!!!!!!!!!!!!! She should join the team!!!!!!!!!!

[Metallurgique]

Hate Quitely. All his characters look like they are retaining water, in a "holy shit! get the diuretics, STAT!" kind of way

Seriously. Perhaps he has gotten better since then, but his New X-men run is, to my eye, absolutely horrid. Every male character looked essentially the same - like a Mr. Potato Head version of the character. Every female looked the same with three styles of character - the rounder Angel, the impossibly thin Emma, and the shriveled Ernst.

[Brian M.]

It's not my favorite arc, I loved last ones much more then this one but this issue was the best one of the current arc. I still think Tan is better then Salvador, I'm just not feeling the way Sal is drawing the team. Pretty good end w/ Skids though. Maybe all those folks who complained that Bru didn't know what he was doing w/ her are eating a little crow?

[Jack Flash]

Maybe all those folks who complained that Bru didn't know what he was doing w/ her are eating a little crow?

all the poor crows!!!!!

Goodbye Heckel and Jeckel!

Skids is love. Skids should totally go dancing with Bliss! and Leech could DJ!

[Beast]

It's not my favorite arc, I loved last ones much more then this one but this issue was the best one of the current arc. I still think Tan is better then Salvador, I'm just not feeling the way Sal is drawing the team. Pretty good end w/ Skids though. Maybe all those folks who complained that Bru didn't know what he was doing w/ her are eating a little crow?
It wasn't just Skids that was eliciting the comments that Bru doesn't know what he's doing. ;)

[Brian M.]

It wasn't just Skids that was eliciting the comments that Bru doesn't know what he's doing. ;)

You do realize I just got back from being banned? Why must you do this to me?

[Pach!]

Bru does know what he's doing.

[Bulky Brent]

Bru is finally starting to steer the book in a good direction to be honset this is first Bru story I am actually enjoying however Storm telling the FF not to come that really bugged me.Why is It an X-Men thing That makes no sense.The Morlocks are planning an attack on humanity, shouldn't all the heroes come and try to stop it? That's why it seems so odd to me to have these overlaps.

[Fatguy]

This was a very good issue, maybe Bru's best one yet. I havent been a big fan of his Uncanny run (though I havent disliked it as much as most have), so this issue gave me some hope for the rest of this arc.

Glad to see the development for Skids at the end. Count me in as somebody who wants to see more of her, maybe as a team member.

[Nyssane]

I picked Hepzibah because Caliban has already had his days in the spotlight, and I really wish he'd just GO AWAY.

[Affinity]

Boring issue. YAYYY SKIDS.

Also Quitely haters need to GTFO. Go hurt my feelings where I can't see you!!!

[JBKWaka]

Bru is finally starting to steer the book in a good direction to be honset this is first Bru story I am actually enjoying however Storm telling the FF not to come that really bugged me.Why is It an X-Men thing That makes no sense.The Morlocks are planning an attack on humanity, shouldn't all the heroes come and try to stop it? That's why it seems so odd to me to have these overlaps.
I agree with you completely I was hoping for some Johnny and Ben action whats the point in giving them guest appearances in the book if they are not going to do anything well at least the interaction between Johnny and Caliban was okay and the end wasn't bad either skids a member of shield what a shock

[_Jayme_]

Bru is finally starting to steer the book in a good direction to be honset this is first Bru story I am actually enjoying however Storm telling the FF not to come that really bugged me.Why is It an X-Men thing That makes no sense.The Morlocks are planning an attack on humanity, shouldn't all the heroes come and try to stop it? That's why it seems so odd to me to have these overlaps.

Because it's common sense. The Avengers run to save civilians from alien like things and the Fantastic Four handle all the science related, other demension things while the X-Men deal with mutant problems..and the Morlocks are mutants, so it does make sense.

[Beast]

Because it's common sense. The Avengers run to save civilians from alien like things and the Fantastic Four handle all the science related, other demension things while the X-Men deal with mutant problems..and the Morlocks are mutants, so it does make sense.
No it doesn't. Why even cameo the FF if you're not going to use them.

[Slung]

well at least the interaction between Johnny and Caliban was okay
Wait...that was Johnny Storm? I thought it was a young(er) Mr. Rogers. Oh how the mighty have fallen. I guess Civil War was harder on Johnny than I thought - he's become fugly.

Maybe Him and Val should start dating. Mr. Rogers and Hillary Clinton. That'd be hot.

[xmanson]

Wait...that was Johnny Storm? I thought it was a young(er) Mr. Rogers. Oh how the mighty have fallen. I guess Civil War was harder on Johnny than I thought - he's become fugly.

Maybe Him and Val should start dating. Mr. Rogers and Hillary Clinton. That'd be hot.

I think that beating he got messed his face up.

[CmX]

Wait...that was Johnny Storm? I thought it was a young(er) Mr. Rogers. Oh how the mighty have fallen. I guess Civil War was harder on Johnny than I thought - he's become fugly.

Maybe Him and Val should start dating. Mr. Rogers and Hillary Clinton. That'd be hot.

LMAO... God Larroca has gotten horrible. This new "style" sucks.

[JBKWaka]

Wait...that was Johnny Storm? I thought it was a young(er) Mr. Rogers. Oh how the mighty have fallen. I guess Civil War was harder on Johnny than I thought - he's become fugly.

Maybe Him and Val should start dating. Mr. Rogers and Hillary Clinton. That'd be hot.
You can Blame Sal for that actually :D

[_Jayme_]

No it doesn't. Why even cameo the FF if you're not going to use them.

Because Storm is also apart of the current Fantastic Four. And they were used..just not in the beat 'em up and bash 'em sense.

[xmanson]

And how rude os Hepzibah to take a dump in front of Johny? Maybe that's why he didn't help more.

[djm]

I really like this issue. I kept turning the pages i love that. Artwork was a little poor but the story was really good.

I hope for more like this :)

[CmX]

And how rude os Hepzibah to take a dump in front of Johny? Maybe that's why he didn't help more.

Maybe it was more of a sign of affection ? I bet Warpath can't wait to tap that crazy ass!

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

If Hezipah sleeps with Warpath she will kill herself


Because she will finally know that it will never be as good as Corsair

[jester1436]

The thought of Corsair having sex with a space skunk nauseates me. :(

[JBKWaka]

The thought of Corsair having sex with a space skunk nauseates me. :(
Actually shes more of a cat she only has skunk colors she doesn't spray out odors or anything

[jester1436]

Actually shes more of a cat she only has skunk colors she doesn't spray out odors or anything

Have you had sex with her to know whether or not that's true? :eek:

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Dude Corsair is all about interstellar relations


*high five*

and she apparently gives off drugs in pheromone form or something during sex


So double trouble! ;)

[JBKWaka]

Well none of them actually complained about her Odor or told her she stunk so technically she doesn't have any Skunk traits except a slight resmblance to skunk

[Brian Cronin]

Brubaker was simply playing by the silly rules of comic book continuity.

He wanted to use Storm, but he can't just use her, he has to deal with stuff going on in a whole other book just so he can use the character he wants, so he has to acknowledge the Fantastic Four.

To then force him to also use them on the mission is asking too much of the writer.

-Brian

[Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost]

God forbid the Xmen exist inside the Marvel Universe

[Michael P]

Brubaker was simply playing by the silly rules of comic book continuity.

He wanted to use Storm, but he can't just use her, he has to deal with stuff going on in a whole other book just so he can use the character he wants, so he has to acknowledge the Fantastic Four.

To then force him to also use them on the mission is asking too much of the writer.

-BrianAnd really, if you're writing Uncanny X-Men, it's better to give the Thing nothing to do so you can focus on Warpath than to give Warpath nothing to do so you can focus on the Thing.

[Michael P]

Well none of them actually complained about her Odor or told her she stunk so technically she doesn't have any Skunk traits except a slight resmblance to skunk

And the name of one.

[Brian Cronin]

And really, if you're writing Uncanny X-Men, it's better to give the Thing nothing to do so you can focus on Warpath than to give Warpath nothing to do so you can focus on the Thing.

Egg-zactly.

That being said, I think Brubaker probably SHOULD have had a better explanation for Storm telling the FF she didn't want their help other than, "It's a mutant thing."

A variation on that would have worked, though, like, "It will look a lot better for mutants, PR-wise, if this problem was solved BY mutants."

-Brian

[Michael P]

Egg-zactly.

That being said, I think Brubaker probably SHOULD have had a better explanation for Storm telling the FF she didn't want their help other than, "It's a mutant thing."

A variation on that would have worked, though, like, "It will look a lot better for mutants, PR-wise, if this problem was solved BY mutants."

-Brian

Y'know, if I were a Marvel writer, I'd dread having to have Ben guest star in my book. He's such a big personality, he's inevitably going to suck attention away from my star unless I'm really careful.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

And really, if you're writing Uncanny X-Men, it's better to give the Thing nothing to do so you can focus on Warpath than to give Warpath nothing to do so you can focus on the Thing.

Warpath isnt even as interesting as his dead brother who appeared in like 3 issues.

Id rather it focus on Grimm

[Michael P]

Warpath isnt even as interesting as his dead brother who appeared in like 3 issues.

Id rather it focus on Grimm

Thank you for missing my point entirely.

[Brian Cronin]

Thank you for missing my point entirely.

I dunno, Mike, I think it's fair enough to say, "I do not like Warpath, so I'd rather see more of a guest star than him."

I don't think it's something Brubaker should worry about it, but it's a fair enough reader response.

-Brian

[Jack Flash]

but how could you not love Warpath? That's so un-american. whatever, but I am not gonna let the communists win.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

but how could you not love Warpath? That's so un-american. whatever, but I am not gonna let the communists win.

The communist already have won


Ivan Drago is currently beating up your parents

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/IvanDrago.jpg

[Beast]

Egg-zactly.

That being said, I think Brubaker probably SHOULD have had a better explanation for Storm telling the FF she didn't want their help other than, "It's a mutant thing."

A variation on that would have worked, though, like, "It will look a lot better for mutants, PR-wise, if this problem was solved BY mutants."

-Brian
Exactly. The "This is a mutant thing" made no sense.

Thing should have bit back that "Yeah, well you're a member of the F'n Fantastic Four ain'tcha?"

[Sean Whitmore]

but how could you not love Warpath? That's so un-american.

Wouldn't it be more American to kill him and take his land?


SEAN

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

i havent even read this issue


but why not just have Storm visit the mansion by herself and then the story happens and she helps out

not really sure one needs to include the FF other than in a speech bubble here or there

[Brian M.]

Wouldn't it be more American to kill him and take his land?


SEAN

Don't kill'm. Hand him a smallpox infested blanket and tell him to take a hike on to more "plush" desert land.

[KidNewWave]

I'm not voting for either one.

The Hepzibah save was nice, but nothing special.
Caliban on X-Box. ?!?
Maybe in X-Force they would be ok.
Not on a core X-Book

[SensorBoy]

Wouldn't it be more American to kill him and take his land?


SEAN

Threaten economic sanctions, and action in the WTO.

That's the American way.

[Pyro]

Is it possible that Skids isn't really a SHIELD agent and she's just a fast thinker who pawed a badge off of one of the dead agents to save the X-Men? Yeah, the badge does have her picture on it but it could have been the colorists idea, seeing as it's a duplication of her face in that very panel. I hope she really is a SHIELD agent, I just don't want to be disappointed if Bru is just misleading us.

[Schuimend Mormel]

I'm not voting for either one.

The Hepzibah save was nice, but nothing special.
Caliban on X-Box. ?!?
Maybe in X-Force they would be ok.
Not on a core X-Book

I didn't vote for either Hepzibah or Caliban, but for a different reason. I LOVE them both. Ever since I saw Caliban run away from Storm's offer to join the X-Men in Uncanny #148 or something, I wondered what it would be like if he joined. Sure, he's been on a satellite team, which is the next best thing, but let him play in the big league now.
And as for Hepzibah, I had developed an obsession earlier for her obscurity and enjoyed all the small bits of her in the issues where she guested with the Starjammers. And she's a big talking cat, which is always a good.
So, I'd like both Hepzibah and Caliban to be X-Men when this story ends.


I, for one, am enjoying Larroca's art more and more every issue. There's a beautiful realism to it, IMHO.

Exactly. The "This is a mutant thing" made no sense.

Thing should have bit back that "Yeah, well you're a member of the F'n Fantastic Four ain'tcha?"

I've been getting the same vibes off Prof Xavier, when he told Val Cooper that Caliban should be treated by mutants because he's one of their own. I mean, I agree that the X-Men and the Institute were far more capable of helping Caliban than the O*N*E's resources were, but Val Cooper IS a friend, SHE can be trusted. (Mind you, the people ABOVE her, who are REALLY in charge are a different story altogether, and then there's of course Mr. 'I-am-piloting-a-Sentinel-to-protect-the-X-Men-but-I'm-such-a-bigot-I'll-shoot-Storm instead'- who is SO getting fired when this is all done.)

And heroes like the Fantastic Four and the Avengers are generally on terms of friendship with the X-Men, and most of those superheroes are not mutants. And there've been human allies like Tom Corsi, Sharon Friedlander, Moira MacTaggert...
I don't think the X-Men should start isolating themselves from baseline humans, because after all, it's segregation they're fighting against. (Duh.)

[Bulky Brent]

Ben offers and insist on helping Storm and Storm declines this is not common sense this is ignorance on behalf of Storm
Exactly. The "This is a mutant thing" made no sense.

Thing should have bit back that "Yeah, well you're a member of the F'n Fantastic Four ain'tcha?"
Exactly Storm is Currently a member of the Fantastic Four therefore she should except their aid
And heroes like the Fantastic Four and the Avengers are generally on terms of friendship with the X-Men, and most of those superheroes are not mutants. And there've been human allies like Tom Corsi, Sharon Friedlander, Moira MacTaggert...
Exactly Friends help out friends thats the way it is well at least she was courteous when Ben offered to help

I do agree that putting the Fantastic Four in this affair is asking too much but Bru baker could have made better use of the Fantastic Four in this issue. I wasn't expecting a "It's clobbering time" or "Flame on" smackdown but rather an escorting or something like that. Bru is using Storm and coincidentally Storm is a member of the Fantastic Four meaning Bru had an opportunity to use the Fantastic Four I think the rules could've been bent just this once.

Another Minor thing Where is T'Challa I don't mind him not being in this issue but Bru didn't give an explanation to why he wasn't there

[Schuimend Mormel]

I do agree that putting the Fantastic Four in this affair is asking too much but Bru baker could have made better use of the Fantastic Four in this issue. I wasn't expecting a "It's clobbering time" or "Flame on" smackdown but rather an escorting or something like that. Bru is using Storm and coincidentally Storm is a member of the Fantastic Four meaning Bru had an opportunity to use the Fantastic Four I think the rules could've been bent just this once.

Another Minor thing Where is T'Challa I don't mind him not being in this issue but Bru didn't give an explanation to why he wasn't there

At least Storm being a member of the Fantastic Four means that a part of the Fantastic Four is actively helping the X-Men. Tee-hee. :D (But it means little, because Reed and Sue are coming back... I hope Storm will return to the X-Men.)

In the past sometimes different superheroes would show up in each other's book to guest or team-up... but a lot of times, also, superheroes would ask themselves 'Boy, I could sure use the Avengers right about now' and then for whatever reason, they wouldn't be available. An actual team-up in X-Men was a bit overdue, and it could have happened in this arc. Mebbe in the finale, Ben Grimm and Torch will help out against the Morlocks, but I'm guessing that's a big mebbe.

[protogarrett]

I live in Spain at the moment and we get the comics about 6 weeks after you all do. Can someone post a real spoiler, not a gloss over?

[KidNewWave]

Selene popping up over in New X-Men. Sebastian over in the one-shot commenting on Roberto, and his leadership. Him making a comment about Emma. Having Lady Mastermind join up, when last she was seen was working for Sebastian Shaw. Carey making a comment that not all of the Marauders are what they seem, could possibly be a hint that maybe Lady Mastermind is a triple agent, first getting info on the X-Men, and then getting info on the Marauders, Mr. Sinister and the Acolytes. some guesses on what we think might happen.

Some great points........

After M-Day the main objectives of the Hellfire Club will have changed
DRAMATICALLY, it will be interesting to see what their objectives are.
I doubt that they would be thorns in the X-Mens side, given the current
landscape.

The Hellfire Club (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellfire_Club_%28comics%29)

I'm sure I'm not the only one hoping that Lady Mastermind/ Mystique are gonna be coming back into the fold.
As Mystique is shielded from telepathy she is always going to be a wild card. Lady M is pure class (and trash) :)

[Schuimend Mormel]

I live in Spain at the moment and we get the comics about 6 weeks after you all do. Can someone post a real spoiler, not a gloss over?

I'm bored and I can find any use for my nonexistent social skills, so here I go:

By the way, I don't normally speak English. So that explains the wonky my words sometimes tend to do.

T.V. airs a report live at the scene of a subway terrorist attack in New York. It is rumoured that mutants were behind the attack. The reporter tries to get footage of a little struggle behind her; one of the distraught victims gets in view of the camera and it is revealed that he has a horribly deformed face. The paramedics calm him down and take him away, telling the reporter to get the camera away.

In the Baxter Building, Storm is operating a three-dimensional map of the city. The map is of Reed Richards' making, so the Thing offers his help. Storm tells him there is no need. The Thing tells her about the horribly deformed victims he saw on T.V. just now. Storm tells him the Morlocks did this because a living victim can sometimes be more frightening than a dead one. She concludes that the Morlocks must be using an abandoned building that has access to the sewers; this must be their new hideout. With Ben's help, she finds four possible locations.

Elsewhere in the Baxter Building, Warpath and the Human Torch are having an argument about why Warpath couldn't track the Morlocks, while Caliban is playing a videogame. Mam'selle Hepzibah explains that the trail led to the subway, where police were all over the place, making it impossible to continue the tracking. Johnny Storm explains he was just making a joke, but the X-Men are in a sombre mood. Caliban accidentally breaks Johnny's X-Box controller.
Storm and the Thing enter, proclaiming that they have found four places that could be a hideout for the Morlocks. Johnny turns up the T.V., which confirms that the terrorists were mutants and has footage to prove it.

At a graveyard are Professor X and Nightcrawler; the professor is mentally making them invisible to the entire town. Professor X has found out that this must have been the last place where Magneto was seen, and searches for residual mental traces while taking Kurt with him to see the 'flashback'. They see Magneto, paying his last respects to one Percival Fellows. Xavier explains that Percy was an early henchman of Magneto, although never a member of the Brotherhood. Percy was depowered on M-Day, and apparently died afterwards. Xavier assumes Magneto was perhaps looking at this graveyard to see a glimpse of what the future holds for mutantkind... namely death.

T.V. airs an internet video in which Masque states that mutantkind will not be herded like lambs to the slaughter. They will be true to the teachings of Magneto and the words of the prophet. Masque says that every living mutant who retains their powers is a weapon, and they will claim the world as their own.

In their hideout, Skids reprimands Masque for uploading the internet video. She says that this was not part of their plans, and neither was the deformation of the people on the train. Masque and Skids start an argument and do not hear that a squad of O*N*E officers are at the door. Masque thinks Skids could be a traitor, and looms over here menacingly, when the O*N*E soldiers break down the door.

In the Blackbird, Professor X senses mutant minds in agony. Just then, the Blackbird receives the internet video of Masque. Professor X is shocked to see this happen precisely now. Magneto must be found no matter the cost.

Warpath finds the Morlock hideout on scent. He, Storm, Hepzibah, and Caliban enter, but Warpath warns them that he smells gunpowder in the air: there has been a battle. The X-Men find the O*N*E soldiers all limp on the floor; most are dead. The Morlocks are using extreme measures, Storm concludes, she does not understand. Hepzibah says it DOES make sense: they are fanatic. Under the rubble, Caliban and Warpath find Skids. They are wondering why she's involved in this when a Sentinel opens the roof. Storm tells the Sentinel to stand down, but the pilot won't listen to reason. He says he always knew those mutants 'had it in them', and proceeds by shooting Storm with a kind of repelling blast. Hepzibah elegantly saves Storm from falling down the building, while Warpath engages the Sentinel with his vibranium knives. Skids then stands up, and orders the combatants to stop this travesty. She is actually a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent, and this was her undercover mission.

[protogarrett]

THANKS MORMEL!!!!
hearts!

[KidNewWave]

What was the point of having the Ben & Johnny in this issue?

"Storm do you know how to use the computer?" Thing
She is married to one of the smartest men in the world, and she lived in
Eagle Plaza with Forge for a time. She knows how to use the computer.

It was so obvious something was going on with Skids right from the
beginning, we are on Issue 3, and really nothing has happened ( 2nd arc
in a row) We haven't seen Caliban do anything......

I hope when the team rondevous with Charley, he telepathically suggests
that Hepzibah and Caliban learn/speak proper english. I'm sure someone that
intelligent could only stand to listen to them speak that way for...
5 minutes tops.

[Schuimend Mormel]

THANKS MORMEL!!!!
hearts!

Back at you:) , always feels good when I can help, because it doesn't happen very often.

[Ice_Cold_Emma_Frost]

What was the point of having the Ben & Johnny in this issue?

"Storm do you know how to use the computer?" Thing
She is married to one of the smartest men in the world, and she lived in
Eagle Plaza with Forge for a time. She knows how to use the computer.


ZOMG Brubaker is racist by insinuating that black storm doesnt know how to use a computer:p

[Hi-Fi]

always feels good when I can help, because it doesn't happen very often.
LOL! I like you, Mormel.

[CmX]

What was the point of having the Ben & Johnny in this issue?

"Storm do you know how to use the computer?" Thing
She is married to one of the smartest men in the world, and she lived in
Eagle Plaza with Forge for a time. She knows how to use the computer.

It was so obvious something was going on with Skids right from the
beginning, we are on Issue 3, and really nothing has happened ( 2nd arc
in a row) We haven't seen Caliban do anything......

I hope when the team rondevous with Charley, he telepathically suggests
that Hepzibah and Caliban learn/speak proper english. I'm sure someone that
intelligent could only stand to listen to them speak that way for...
5 minutes tops.

These past three issues could have easily been condensed into two issues, I'm so dropping this immediately after Messiah Complex or maybe I wont depends on who's writing Uncanny afterall that.

[KidNewWave]

He is insulting by still writing this book in my opinion...
He is my new Tony Bedard (circa Exiles)

[Schuimend Mormel]

I hope when the team rondevous with Charley, he telepathically suggests
that Hepzibah and Caliban learn/speak proper english. I'm sure someone that
intelligent could only stand to listen to them speak that way for...
5 minutes tops.

Oh, no, please, Hepzibah's accent is darling! Maybe someone should make that a poll: should Hepzibah's way of speaking stay or go?

As for Caliban, AFAIK his grammar is supposed to have very little flaws. The main quirk he has is referring to himself in the third person. Maybe his talking skills went down when his mind was reduced to infancy, but right now he shouldn't be using double negative ('never nothing') like he did in this issue, I think. That was the only thing that bothered me about his speech.

[Hi-Fi]

Hepzibah can't lose her way of speaking. That would be a crime!

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

plus the only reason that she speaks like that is because Corsair banged her stupid.

True story

[Jake V]

What was the point of having the Ben & Johnny in this issue?
They are members of the Fantastic Four, the team that Black Panther and Storm happen to be on now.

"Storm do you know how to use the computer?" Thing
She is married to one of the smartest men in the world, and she lived in
Eagle Plaza with Forge for a time. She knows how to use the computer.
As smart as Forge and BP are, Reed Richards is at least twice that. And I'm not sure how being married to a genius makes you a genius yourself.

I hope when the team rondevous with Charley, he telepathically suggests
that Hepzibah and Caliban learn/speak proper english. I'm sure someone that
intelligent could only stand to listen to them speak that way for...
5 minutes tops.
Why would they suddenly speak differently than how they've always spoken?

[Schuimend Mormel]

LOL! I like you, Mormel.

I like you right back, Hi-Fi. These threads are great when they are all cuddly (if it's dosed). I'm all for cuddles.

[Beast]

These past three issues could have easily been condensed into two issues, I'm so dropping this immediately after Messiah Complex or maybe I wont depends on who's writing Uncanny afterall that.
There's already big rumors about creative teams being moved around. So who knows.

[CmX]

There's already big rumors about creative teams being moved around. So who knows.

Knowing Marvel I wouldn't doubt if they decided to fuck up XMen and remove Carey.

[KidNewWave]

BRU would be much better (and off my list) if he would just sort out his pacing.

Issue 1 of Extremists- The morlocks terrorist attack in Subway
Issue 2- Recruit team, find markings, go to Baxter Building, intercept Morlocks.
Issue 3- Morlocks vs X-Men (Round 1) Morlocks win/ Skids defects.
Issue 4- Xavier finds Mags.
Issue 5- Morlocks vs X-Men (Round 2)

[CmX]

BRU would be much better (and off my list) if he would just sort out his pacing.

Issue 1 of Extremists- The morlocks terrorist attack in Subway
Issue 2- Recruit team, find markings, go to Baxter Building, intercept Morlocks.
Issue 3- Morlocks vs X-Men (Round 1) Morlocks win/ Skids defects.
Issue 4- Xavier finds Mags.
Issue 5- Morlocks vs X-Men (Round 2)

I agree. He blamed the 12 storyarc on Marvel, and now his 5 issue (which is Marvel's fault also probably) arc's pacing is just slow and... not exciting at all. (IMHO!!!!!!)

The solicit for the next issue sounds like identical to what happened in the current issue lol

[Christopher O]

I agree. He blamed the 12 storyarc on Marvel, and now his 5 issue (which is Marvel's fault also probably) arc's pacing is just slow and... not exciting at all. (IMHO!!!!!!)
Did he blame the Shi'ar arc on Marvel? I'm pretty sure he took responsibility for the pacing of that story.

[KidNewWave]

If they took Carey/ Bachalo off of X-Men i think I would have to
stop buying most of my X-Titles.

Bru's other stuff is pretty decent. i just don't think he is the right
guy for Uncanny......

[CmX]

Did he blame the Shi'ar arc on Marvel? I'm pretty sure he took responsibility for the pacing of that story.

Did he? Maybe I was thinking of Whedon.... lol either way my opinion still stands the same! :D

[CmX]

If they took Carey/ Bachalo off of X-Men i think I would have to
stop buying most of my X-Titles.

Bru's other stuff is pretty decent. i just don't think he is the right
guy for Uncanny......

Totally! I loved his run on Catwoman, it was genius.

I just don't like his Uncanny for crackers.

[Beast]

Did he? Maybe I was thinking of Whedon.... lol either way my opinion still stands the same! :D
Yeah, you're thinking of Whedon who blamed Astonishing's lateness on Marvel.

Yet the moment he's on Runaways we have months worth of delays once again.

Brubaker stepped forward and admitted the Shi'ar arc wasn't paced very well. Which I give him props for.

[CmX]

Yeah, you're thinking of Whedon who blamed Astonishing's lateness on Marvel.

Yet the moment he's on Runaways we have months worth of delays once again.

Brubaker stepped forward and admitted the Shi'ar arc wasn't paced very well. Which I give him props for.

That's right now I remember. My bad. ;)

But his five part story shouldn't be this slow either lol.......... love ya Bru! <3

[Erik Lehnsherr]

I agree. He blamed the 12 storyarc on Marvel, and now his 5 issue (which is Marvel's fault also probably) arc's pacing is just slow and... not exciting at all. (IMHO!!!!!!)

The solicit for the next issue sounds like identical to what happened in the cur