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Indigo Al
07-25-2007, 05:59 PM
Of his Image/Wildstorm stuff, I've only read Voodoo, which I thought was excellent.

Do you recommend picking this up for his Wildcats stuff?

stealthwise
07-25-2007, 11:55 PM
Really? I've never read Voodoo, but I heard that it was his WORST STUFF EVER.

Knowing Moore's work, that probably means that it was high-level mediocre.

I'm interested in this volume as well, anyone have it?

ultramandingo
07-26-2007, 12:04 AM
......i read most of it . it was all right - on the other hand , his supream stuff is what superman shoulda been - wheres that colection ?

FunkyGreenJerusalem
07-26-2007, 12:21 AM
......i read most of it . it was all right - on the other hand , his supream stuff is what superman shoulda been - wheres that colection ?

One of Liefield's companies released one last year.

DWEarhart
07-26-2007, 12:25 AM
Supreme - The Return

Supreme - Story of the Year

Both have been collected.

dancj
07-26-2007, 05:13 AM
Really? I've never read Voodoo, but I heard that it was his WORST STUFF EVER.

Knowing Moore's work, that probably means that it was high-level mediocre.
That's not far off actually. It was a lot of fun in a shallow silly kind of way. That's how I felt about pretty much all of Alan Moore's Image stuff though.

Indigo Al
07-26-2007, 05:50 AM
Really? I've never read Voodoo, but I heard that it was his WORST STUFF EVER.

Knowing Moore's work, that probably means that it was high-level mediocre.

I'm interested in this volume as well, anyone have it?

I suppose the standard superheroic/occult crime thriller plot wasn't anything to write home about, but subplot with the loa, and his use of Bad Girl conventions, a liked a lot.

Expletive Deleted
07-26-2007, 09:45 AM
One of Liefield's companies released one last year.Checker Books (http://www.checkerbpg.com/) licensed them from Liefeld and did both Supreme trades and a "Judgement Day" trade.

ultramandingo
07-26-2007, 12:39 PM
Checker Books (http://www.checkerbpg.com/) licensed them from Liefeld and did both Supreme trades and a "Judgement Day" trade.

........."Judgement Day" shows how much moore can do with so little . kinda like the beatles covering maroon 5 "hits"

stealthwise
07-26-2007, 05:08 PM
That's not far off actually. It was a lot of fun in a shallow silly kind of way. That's how I felt about pretty much all of Alan Moore's Image stuff though.

Like VIOLATOR! :D Man that was bad. Really, really, really bad, but so bad that you can't help but think that Moore was just screwing around, trying to produce something nearly unreadable.

Subotai
07-26-2007, 06:39 PM
Does it include that Majestic end-of-time story?

Expletive Deleted
07-26-2007, 06:45 PM
Does it include that Majestic end-of-time story?Yes, it does.

Kid Kyoto
07-26-2007, 08:40 PM
Supreme - The Return

Supreme - Story of the Year

Both have been collected.

Judgement day, his big mishmash of Liefeld characters is also in print. I have them all, love them.

Hellstormer
07-26-2007, 08:41 PM
I've been looking forward to this since I read the DC Universe Stories of Alan Moore book. What all does this collect again. I said it in another thread but I forget.

Kid Monster
07-27-2007, 02:21 AM
The wonderful and poignant Wildstorm Spotlight: Majestic one-shot is one of the top five Superman stories ever written. Seriously.

Yes, I know it technically doesn't have "Superman" in it, but get it from the 50 cent box and read it, and you will know what I mean.

His run on WildC.A.T.S was good fun with a nice "1980s Marvel" feel to it. Probably the closest thing we will ever get to Alan Moore writing X-Men. Well worth picking up in trade.

dancj
07-27-2007, 05:45 AM
Like VIOLATOR! :D Man that was bad. Really, really, really bad, but so bad that you can't help but think that Moore was just screwing around, trying to produce something nearly unreadable.
Violator was great fun. I can't remember a thing about it now, but I do remember enjoying it.

Judgement Day on the other hand did nothing for me - Though I liked they way they made Gil Kane a character in it.

The Beast Of Yucca Flats
07-27-2007, 08:13 AM
Like VIOLATOR! :D Man that was bad. Really, really, really bad, but so bad that you can't help but think that Moore was just screwing around, trying to produce something nearly unreadable.

Oh yeah, I looked through the first issue of that little magnum opus a while back.

And I think Moore said in George Khoury's book a few years ago regarding a lot of his Image work that: "I think the mistake I was making was that I was trying to second-guess what this largely unknown new audience would want." (as he'd been away from the mainstream for a while) That it just seemed like "the bulk of the audience really wanted things that had almost no story; just lots of big, full-page pin-up sort of pieces of artwork" and that he was a little curious at the time to see if he could write stories for an audience like that.

Kid Kyoto
07-27-2007, 09:24 AM
The wonderful and poignant Wildstorm Spotlight: Majestic one-shot is one of the top five Superman stories ever written. Seriously.


Is it in this trade?

Hellstormer
07-27-2007, 03:57 PM
The wonderful and poignant Wildstorm Spotlight: Majestic one-shot is one of the top five Superman stories ever written. Seriously.

Yes, I know it technically doesn't have "Superman" in it, but get it from the 50 cent box and read it, and you will know what I mean.

His run on WildC.A.T.S was good fun with a nice "1980s Marvel" feel to it. Probably the closest thing we will ever get to Alan Moore writing X-Men. Well worth picking up in trade.
His WildC.A.T.s run was like 21-26 right? With Majestic, Savant, Condition Red, and Tao?

Is it in this trade?
The Majestic One-Shot is I believe.

Screwtape
07-29-2007, 10:56 PM
I agree with stealth, the Voodoo story is atrocious. But there's other stuff in the volume that make it worth the money.

-Spawn/WildC.A.T.S- A low point in the Moore canon, like most of the work included here. Moore's best work on the Spawn characters remains his "Bloodfeud" miniseries with Tony Daniel. It's not awful - little of his work is - but it's not great. Moore doesn't yet have the feel for the WildC.A.T.S characters that he would develop (and, to be honest, invent whole cloth) in later stories during his run on the WildC.A.T.S solo book. Scott Clarke's art has its brief moments.

-Wildstorm Spotlight: Majestic- Absolutely worth not only the price of the volume, but the time wasted on its lesser stories. This is one of Moore's best single-issue stories in a career that produced "The Killing Joke" and "For the Man Who Has Everything." If you've read the two-year run on Wildcats that introduce the character, you'll recognize a couple of references that may be lost on non-C.A.T.S readers. Briefly, Majestic and a handful of other beings survive all the way until the end of time and have to decide what to do there. Carlos D'Anda artwork is uncharacteristically good - maybe he had time to take with this story that wasn't allowed him on his fill-in work during Wildcats Vol. 2.

-Voodoo: Dancing in the Dark- The single worst story Alan Moore has to his name outside of his bookend work on "Fire from Heaven." The second-rate story about strippers in New Orleans (which Moore appears never to have visited or even researched extensively) is trumped in imaginative bankruptcy only by Michael Lopez's fill-in art on the third issue. Al Rio's work redeems the odd panel, but isn't really anything interesting. By far the best parts of these stories are the covers by Adam Hughes, who really should have been hired to pencil the thing himself.

-Deathblow: Byblows- The strangest and best of the long stories in this volume, this very, very weird adventures story about clones of Michael Cray resembles nothing so much as his old work on 2000AD. It's a sci-fi story with a punchline and an interesting setting, as well as Jim Baikie's best art to date.

-WildC.A.T.S #50: Reincarnation- A great coda to the two volumes of Moore's work on WildC.A.T.S. It ties up perhaps the only loose end left in those stories, and opens the door for Ed Brubaker's excellent "Sleeper."

ultramandingo
07-29-2007, 11:22 PM
........yeah of corse the best thing about wild cats was moores's..... t.a.o.

jerrymcl89
08-07-2007, 09:56 PM
I've read this through the Voodoo story so far. It's certainly some of Moore's worst work (other than the Majestic story, which is up to the same level as his Swamp Thing lost in space arc), but still pretty readable.

king mob
08-08-2007, 11:40 AM
Really? I've never read Voodoo, but I heard that it was his WORST STUFF EVER.

Knowing Moore's work, that probably means that it was high-level mediocre.



There's a toss up between his worst ever work for me ( and some of his Image work is bloody awful) between his two-part Vigilante story, or his American Flagg! stories where he tries to be Howard Chaykin & fails horribly.

ultramandingo
08-08-2007, 05:34 PM
or his American Flagg! stories where he tries to be Howard Chaykin & fails horribly.

........ha ! that was the first moore stuff i read . which kept me picking up swamp thing for a wile. at least until eclipes started re printing marvel man

Stellar
08-13-2007, 08:36 PM
I don't believe Ultramandingo used to post like that before...

........yeah of corse the best thing about wild cats was moores's..... t.a.o.

Tao is a brilliant character, one of the greatest ever, IMO. Here's this little skinny guy and he can &*%&#% you up just by talking to you. Brilliant.

ultramandingo
08-13-2007, 08:42 PM
I don't believe Ultramandingo used to port like that before...



...............who did what now?

Stellar
08-14-2007, 06:07 PM
'Post', my bad.

Agentum
08-16-2007, 12:31 AM
Supreme is excellent but the Wildcat stuff did not impress me at all, unintresting to me mostly beause of the boring characters that is to much early 90s cooooooool.

radunga
08-16-2007, 11:16 PM
IŽve liked the plot with the old Wildcats.

Well, it (the run) was simple and nice. Not one of the best comic books ever, but if youŽve liked Voodo, youŽll love it.

Spawn vs Wilcats was terrible. I havenŽt liked the Majestic one shot too. Violator and Blood Feud were cool, at the time.

Btw, does anyone know the story behind Spawn #36? It was written by Alan Moore; apparently to be the first part of an arc, but at the follow issue a diferent story began and moore was gone.

Kid Kyoto
08-17-2007, 01:32 AM
I just got Badrock/Violator.

It's Alan Moore! I said. Sure it's a Liefeld character and a McFarlaine character but think of the great things he will do with them!

No.

Just no.

This must have been written by Alan Q Moore a 14 year old Junior High student from DeMois Iowa.

Just say no.

Kid Kyoto
08-17-2007, 01:36 AM
I just got Badrock/Violator.

It's Alan Moore! I said. Sure it's a Liefeld character and a McFarlaine character but think of the great things he will do with them!

No.

Just no.

This must have been written by Alan Q Moore a 14 year old Junior High student from DeMois Iowa.

Just say no.

niall mc cann
09-11-2007, 03:32 AM
His run on WildC.A.T.S was good fun with a nice "1980s Marvel" feel to it. Probably the closest thing we will ever get to Alan Moore writing X-Men. Well worth picking up in trade.

Yeah, people slag off that run a lot, but i found it readable enough. Nothing spectacular, but i've often read much, much worse. I think people just go overboard about it because it was Moore at the tiller.

dancj
09-11-2007, 05:54 AM
I like Alan Moore's Wildc.a.t.s a lot. If nothing else it's got Tao.

inigosv
09-25-2007, 06:43 AM
I just got Badrock/Violator.

It's Alan Moore! I said. Sure it's a Liefeld character and a McFarlaine character but think of the great things he will do with them!

No.

Just no.

This must have been written by Alan Q Moore a 14 year old Junior High student from DeMois Iowa.

Just say no.

Listen to the wise man ... This is not only Moore's worst job, but probably one of the worst stories Image ever published. 'Wake up in the middle of the night screaming' bad ... Beware of the back-issue bargains, you never know when you will come across it!

nihil_domini
09-25-2007, 07:30 PM
I like Alan Moore's Wildc.a.t.s a lot. If nothing else it's got Tao.

Ditto.

Tao is a brilliant piece of character design.

dancj
09-26-2007, 05:29 AM
Listen to the wise man ... This is not only Moore's worst job, but probably one of the worst stories Image ever published. 'Wake up in the middle of the night screaming' bad ... Beware of the back-issue bargains, you never know when you will come across it!
It's not that bad. I quite enjoyed it. I've forgotten it now, but I do remember it being fun

Excelsior
10-23-2007, 09:37 PM
Ditto.

Tao is a brilliant piece of character design.

Agreed! His introduction and following appearances shows how you properly introduce a new baddy.

jesse_custer
05-19-2008, 07:50 AM
Finished the Wild Worlds trade yesterday. If you're an Alan Moore nut like I am, you have to read it. Buying it might be out of the question, though.

1. Spawn/WildCATS - Gets better as it goes along, but ultimately it's a bunch of characters walking around. The art is typical unimaginative Image bullshit.

2. Majestic - A sad and fun story. Highly recommended.

3. Voodoo - The art is by some J. Scott Campbell ripoff, so you get the attractive women at least. The story itself is confusing and inconsistent (e.g., a certain narrative frame is ONLY used in the fourth issue despite no trace of it before). The story is so cluttered that I couldn't tell whether this was a pre- or post-WildCATS tale.

4. Deathblow - Sparse dialogue is rare for Moore, but he utilizes constraint here to good effect. Not as thought provoking as the Majestic story, it is still a worthwhile experiment.

5. WildCATS #50 - Pointless eight-page blah.

Overall, I give the Moore Wild Worlds collection a C. Do not bother if you're not a Moore fan because even his greatest admirers might have trouble getting through this.