This is confusing me about the 52 Earths...

[Rio_de_Janeiro]

first of all, sorry if this has been discussed before, but i haven't really seen it. if it has, could you just provide me the link to the discussion...if not,

how do these new "munched and digested" 52 earths relate to new earth? more specifically, if we have an earth-5 (or earth-s) for the shazam characters, who are the marvels we see on new earth? does this new earth-5 include versions of superman or will it not have the top 3 characters?

do we have a universe which is amalgamated AT THE SAME TIME we have the original universes (eg: charlton, fawcett, etc) as they were when they hadn't yet been bought by DC?

i think about this and my head fries...


cheers,
and thanks in advance for any interest...

chico.

[Titanium]

Every Earth is essentially a parallel reality to New Earth. For instance on Earth-2 you have the JSA with a Superman. Earth-3 is the CSA. On Earth-5 you have the Marvel Family. On Earth-22 you have the Kingdom Come Earth. Earth-50 is Wildstorm.

These are just parallel realities to New Earth with varients on how things happen. Instead of superman you have Captain Marvel and Family as the heroes on 5, and theres one with the Charleston heroes on it and essentially it means there are earths out there that are made up of the bought up companies without any of the other heroes on them, and probably some that have mixed characters, like Kingdom Come earth. but more specifically the New Earth which is the combination of all the earths and their inhabitants basically. New Earth essentially has all or at least most of the characters on other Earths while the other Earths have specific characters to them.


What I think would be a good idea eventually is to reveal these 52 earths are more than just varying realities but 52 multiverses upon themselves all based on the differing events on each individual Earth. On Earth 22 theres another reality where superman calmed everyone down without any nuclear strike, but its not a whole other earth to itself.

[jv2k]

New earth is the old DCU with some new twists.

Everything else is an unrelated reality.

[Project 22]

Most of what was reffered to was from the "old" multiverse. Although there seem to be similarities between the new universi (universes?) and the old, we shouldn't really think that on Earth 5, there is the Marvel family and so on and so forth. The different characters that may seem to be exact duplicates of ones we have already met may in fact be incredibly different.

All I have to say is that I do hope they bring back Ted Kord in some way, shape, or form, maybe not as Blue Beetle, but there are plenty of other gaps he could fill.

[Super Buddies Forever]

And even the universes that seem exactly like old parallel realities or Elseworlds, like the Kingdom Come Earth, shouldn't be seen as being the exact worlds that they took place on. Technically, DC has established that all old Elseworlds stories were alternate realities in the first multiverse, therefore being destroyed by the Crisis (although "echoes" of them survived through Hypertime, which is also how I assume Alex Luthor brought so many of them back for about five minutes in Infinite Crisis)

[Rio_de_Janeiro]

we have "new earth", which is quite similar do the status quo before infinite crisis's finale. This universe couldn't contain all the energies of all the earths/universes re-created by Alex Luthor, who used reflexes left in hypertime of the old pre-crisis multiverse. These reflexes were all the fluxes and refluxes that went on in the period between crisis and infinite crisis in addition to the original multiverse's left-over reflexes.

Because of the excessive energies, the universe split itself into 52 parallel universes, a new multiverse. all of them were exact copies of new earth. however, mr. mind found out about these and started eating aleatory periods of time and space in the other universes. this caused them to differ from each other at different moments with different "butterfly effects" for each parallel universe.

now the other 51 universes differ from DC's main earth. they can or not have similarities to new earth according to the damage produced by mr. mind.

they might end up resembling any of the ones we knew prior to 52, but we have no guarantee of that, only some few images and we might suppose they reflect back to pre-52 multiverses.

did i make any sense?

cheers,
rio.

[chicagokmc]

we have "new earth", which is quite similar do the status quo before infinite crisis's finale. This universe couldn't contain all the energies of all the earths/universes re-created by Alex Luthor, who used reflexes left in hypertime of the old pre-crisis multiverse. These reflexes were all the fluxes and refluxes that went on in the period between crisis and infinite crisis in addition to the original multiverse's left-over reflexes.

Because of the excessive energies, the universe split itself into 52 parallel universes, a new multiverse. all of them were exact copies of new earth. however, mr. mind found out about these and started eating aleatory periods of time and space in the other universes. this caused them to differ from each other at different moments with different "butterfly effects" for each parallel universe.

now the other 51 universes differ from DC's main earth. they can or not have similarities to new earth according to the damage produced by mr. mind.

they might end up resembling any of the ones we knew prior to 52, but we have no guarantee of that, only some few images and we might suppose they reflect back to pre-52 multiverses.

did i make any sense?

cheers,
rio.

this sound right. i believe there was also a recent reveal either in green lantern or countdown that these other earths are still tied to "our" earth and that if something happens to "our" earths, the multiverse earths would also be affected.