so has Hulk killed anyone let in this story [Archive]

Mike Smash!

07-20-2007, 10:24 PM

or any of his people

Cause kind of change the view of him.

And really whaty is he doing with the illumanatie bodies if not kill them. What his big plan.

Just to smack them around and leave

We should have a kill count if he killed peopleHe's beaten the hell out of a number of characters, but no deaths.

Wolverine, Iron Man, Blackbolt and Reed seem to have gotten it the worst so far.

IamtheRock3

07-20-2007, 10:25 PM

so he just beat them and leave

What he want to arrest them, make them stand trial what

Just a smackdown doesnt make up for the whole DEAD WIFE AND BABY thing

CMBMOOL

07-20-2007, 10:27 PM

so he just beat them and leave

What he want to arrest them, make them stand trial what

Just a smackdown doesnt make up for the whole DEAD WIFE AND BABY thing

But it does make up for the heroes actions in Civil War. :D

Kefky

07-20-2007, 10:27 PM

It'll be funny seeing him being all gentle with the army next issue so he doesn't kill anyone. Be careful with those explosions and turned over tanks! :D

Mike Smash!

07-20-2007, 10:28 PM

so he just beat them and leave

What he want to arrest them, make them stand trial what

Just a smackdown doesnt make up for the whole DEAD WIFE AND BABY thingIt looked like he was taking them into custody in WWH #2 and when he moved to take Xavier, he mentioned that he'd have the rest of the Illuminati to keep him company soon.

It sounds like he wants to "arrest" them.

Pendaran

07-20-2007, 10:28 PM

He beat them and dragged them off to some mysterious fate, as far as Reed, Tony and co.

We don't know what said fate is, closest we have is some cover shot of the Hulk sitting on a throne while the others fight each other gladiator style. But really, covers don't mean anything.

Otherwise, New York city still has 24 hours before it's scheduled to fall, and the closest anyone else came was the Thing, who Hiroim seemed to feel was about to get a deathblow landed on him, but that was interrupted.

If you're looking for deaths in this series you're going to have to wait for the rest of the issues of Gamma Corps, which promises to have killing all over the place from various people, the Hulk and otherwise, or WWH 3, where Miek might kill Rick Jones.

ComicCollector777

07-21-2007, 01:03 AM

No kills yet but the CLOSET one to face death has been the Thing. But that's understandable after going through Iron-man, Doc Samson & Co. and being blasted by the Torch and Storm.

The Hulk has not stated his intention to kill anyone yet. I think he's going to gather Tony & Co. for a trial based on the laws of Saakar (the planet that blew up).

wildcardv2

07-21-2007, 01:21 AM

The Hulk has not stated his intention to kill anyone yet. I think he's going to gather Tony & Co. for a trial based on the laws of Saakar (the planet that blew up).

I think that EXACTLY it... and as we should remember it was a "trial by combat" of sorts with hulk mixing it up.. so please please please tell me that we get to see Stark in front of the Hulk sans armor (with Hulk threatening to drop missiles on him for the "fun" of it)

StoneGold

07-21-2007, 01:46 AM

Unless their are some unevacuated still in the buildings getting thrashed.

Pendaran

07-21-2007, 02:57 AM

Unless their are some unevacuated still in the buildings getting thrashed.

That kind of thing is probably being saved for Frontline.

Bulky Brent

07-21-2007, 07:04 AM

The Hulk has not stated his intention to kill anyone yet. I think he's going to gather Tony & Co. for a trial based on the laws of Saakar (the planet that blew up).
I never though of that I though Hulk was only after revenge. I wouldn't be surprised if Pak took it in this direction putting the Illuminati on trial but who knows if this will actually happen after all their is only 3 issues and him and Sentry are still yet to square off.

ComicCollector777

07-21-2007, 07:34 AM

I think that EXACTLY it... and as we should remember it was a "trial by combat" of sorts with hulk mixing it up.. so please please please tell me that we get to see Stark in front of the Hulk sans armor (with Hulk threatening to drop missiles on him for the "fun" of it)

I never though of that I though Hulk was only after revenge. I wouldn't be surprised if Pak took it in this direction putting the Illuminati on trial but who knows if this will actually happen after all their is only 3 issues and him and Sentry are still yet to square off.

I think ALOT of us are so excited by this mega-event and are so drawn into the various Hulk fights that we tend to lose focus on some of the characters' motive...I can to give Marvel credit for giving us a block-buster so far! XD

crimson red

07-21-2007, 08:12 AM

No kills yet but the CLOSET one to face death has been the Thing. But that's understandable after going through Iron-man, Doc Samson & Co. and being blasted by the Torch and Storm.

How do you figure? The Thing took Hulk's double punch and was still talking on his knees when the "fake" sentry arrived. He was hell of a lot more coherent than Reed or Black Bolt.

ComicCollector777

07-21-2007, 08:23 AM

How do you figure? The Thing took Hulk's double punch and was still talking on his knees when the "fake" sentry arrived. He was hell of a lot more coherent than Reed or Black Bolt.

What I mean was that the Hulk let loose to such an extent that his opponent is almost killed, After the Hulk's initial blow but just before the Hulk was going to deliver the "double-axe" handle. That's why Hirom made the "May he who dies, dies well speech" and Reeds stepped in appearing as the "Sentry".

In his other fights, the Hulk has shown restraint especially those who aren't part of the original group tha he's after i.e. Tony, Black Bolt, Reed and Strange.

For example, in his fight with the She Hulk and the X-men, he gave them an option to walk away. For example, after bending Peter's arms out of shape, he told him to back off.

Quinch

07-21-2007, 08:42 AM

How do you figure? The Thing took Hulk's double punch and was still talking on his knees when the "fake" sentry arrived. He was hell of a lot more coherent than Reed or Black Bolt.

If you refer to"..bout..time....you showed up.." as talking rather than struggling to brreath and mumbling then more power to you.
He was in worse state then when Hulk thrashed him in Vegas - and Thing thought he was dead then!

I don't mean to be rude or snarky here but
when the entire scene is all of the observers of the battle in a state of shock or anticipation.
When Hiroim starts to say the Sakaar last rites : " May He who dies - "
When Hulk is pictured about to double blow a helpless Thing into obvlivion...

Then please tell me. What more do you need?

Im sorry guys I'm just fed up with people who can't read a simple comics panel thinking they are throwing a spanner in the works by posting a theory that only works if you read the comic on LSD and expecting relatively clear headed people to buy it as fact.

Maybe I need a break, this is getting very wearing.

ComicCollector777

07-21-2007, 08:53 AM

If you refer to"..bout..time....you showed up.." as talking rather than struggling to brreath and mumbling then more power to you.
He was in worse state then when Hulk thrashed him in Vegas - and Thing thought he was dead then!

I don't mean to be rude or snarky here but
when the entire scene is all of the observers of the battle in a state of shock or anticipation.
When Hiroim starts to say the Sakaar last rites : " May He who dies - "
When Hulk is pictured about to double blow a helpless Thing into obvlivion...

Then please tell me. What more do you need?

Im sorry guys I'm just fed up with people who can't read a simple comics panel thinking they are throwing a spanner in the works by posting a theory that only works if you read the comic on LSD and expecting relatively clear headed people to buy it as fact.

Maybe I need a break, this is getting very wearing.

I don't blame yeah at all. There's some posters who keep INSISTING that the Hulk's arrival is to KILL everyone and RULE the earth.

Nowhere in any of the WWH comics has the Hulk stated this so far YET. From what I see, all the Hulk is doing is capturing Tony & co. ALIVE probably for a trial of sorts.

Yeah, the Hulk threatened the world if the Tony and company were not handed over. He does what a normal country like the US or UK does by making threats of imposing economic sanctions on countries that shelters criminals.

Quinch

07-21-2007, 09:53 AM

Superbeast

07-21-2007, 09:56 AM

Hulk isn't out to kill anyone right now, not even the Illuminati, otherwise Black Bolt would be a corpse. Hulk has returned to punish those that were responsible for his expulsion and the deaths of his adopted people, wife and unborn child on Sakaar. Everyone else is just getting in the way and making him madder. He wants his Warbound to have a new home on Earth as far as I can tell, he doesn't plan to destroy it. He only gave an ultimatum to get the Illuminati to react and come to New York.

It's interesting we didn't see the detail of the damage done to Thing's face. I'd have thought that his skull and orbital bones would be fractured and his ear drums left perforated. Maybe he'll bust out the old metal helmet he use to have if his face is that messed up.

DaeJi

07-21-2007, 10:00 AM

Right now the Hulk just seems to want to put the men who exiled him on trail, prehaps to get a confession for the bomb. However, that doesn't mean he won't kill them, he just wants to go by the book as much as possible.

IamtheRock3

07-21-2007, 10:09 AM

he does seem to show less concern about potential casulities though

So far he got lucky. What if they DIDNT hand tony over or evacuate the city. Would Hulk start killing folks

ComicCollector777

07-21-2007, 10:12 AM

Yep. It just stalls debates we are having on more indepth issues when some posters bring us back to square one to answer the same old questions again.
Maybe we should put a sticky about facts known or something and direct newcomers to that?

Seriously, I don't mind if we could do that so we can discuss on more important plot points and developments. For example, is Banner supportive of the Hulk's actions etc.

The last few posters (you included) have a good grasp of the arc...unlike some in other threads who either rush into are moaning because their fave heroes lost.

dabig2

07-21-2007, 10:56 AM

he does seem to show less concern about potential casulities though

So far he got lucky. What if they DIDNT hand tony over or evacuate the city. Would Hulk start killing folks

I doubt it. He's not at Black adam level where he slaughters innocents at the drop of the hat. And the more righteous brethren of his, Korg and Hiroim, wouldn't allow such a thing as well.

Vaal

07-21-2007, 10:58 AM

he does seem to show less concern about potential casulities though
Not really. Save for the Thing and telling Wolverine that he *couldn't* kill him, he's pretty much went for the quick 'disable' and move on to his objective. I've only followed the main book and WWH:X-men, but Hulk is definitely pulling his punches against the non-brick/healing factor set. He seriously could have killed his way through the X-men, but he keeps saying he's only there for Xavier and they aren't his concern.

So far he got lucky. What if they DIDNT hand tony over or evacuate the city. Would Hulk start killing folks
I doubt he expected anyone to 'hand over' Tony. But Tony and all the Illuminati are so bloody arrogant that that kind of ultimatum was sure to drive them out of the woodwork with all their best anti-hulk weaponry, fixin' to victimize Banner again.

Kevinroc

07-21-2007, 10:59 AM

I doubt it. He's not at Black adam level where he slaughters innocents at the drop of the hat. And the more righteous brethren of his, Korg and Hiroim, wouldn't allow such a thing as well.

Is it a sad commentary when Hulk has moral superiority over the Amazons?

dabig2

07-21-2007, 11:03 AM

Is it a sad commentary when Hulk has moral superiority over the Amazons?

Oh god, what a horrible story that event is turning out to be. When I have to think to myself "what the hell" for every page I turn, then something is wrong.

IamtheRock3

07-21-2007, 12:22 PM

pretty sure that be blame on a yellow fear monster, the amazon attack thing

jigrig

07-21-2007, 12:24 PM

I doubt it. He's not at Black adam level where he slaughters innocents at the drop of the hat. And the more righteous brethren of his, Korg and Hiroim, wouldn't allow such a thing as well.

The funny thing here is that Hiroim is The One that mentioned that Richards Stark Strange & Black Bolt must die, WWH TIH #107, first panel after the first page intro.

dabig2

07-21-2007, 12:54 PM

The funny thing here is that Hiroim is The One that mentioned that Richards Stark Strange & Black Bolt must die, WWH TIH #107, first panel after the first page intro.

They're not innocents.... ;)

ultimate hulk

07-21-2007, 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=Quinch;5159556]If you refer to"..bout..time....you showed up.." as talking rather than struggling to brreath and mumbling then more power to you.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

hyzmarca

07-21-2007, 03:23 PM

making threats of imposing economic sanctions

You misspelled invading.

Lord Moon

07-21-2007, 03:31 PM

How do you figure? The Thing took Hulk's double punch and was still talking on his knees when the "fake" sentry arrived. He was hell of a lot more coherent than Reed or Black Bolt.

He seemed to be unconscious and dragged by the scruff of the neck later in the ish. Unless that's how the Thing likes to travel these days?

IamtheRock3

07-21-2007, 04:10 PM

fully expect frontline to reveal

That Tony and Hulk responbilly for deaths in new york

Euks

07-21-2007, 05:11 PM

Hulk hasn't killed anyone, and he's generally holding back his punches. But I think that he's willing to kill anybody who he fights (after giving them the chance to walk away) because they've already made their decision. He was definitely going to deliver a fatal or near-fatal blow to the Thing.

I could see Hulk either having the Illuminati stand trial, or setting up a space ship and exiling them into space like they did to him. Of course he'd first disable them and their powers somehow so they can't make it back. I don't think he'll get the chance to do this, but I could see him wanting to if his plans succeed.

Chris S.

07-21-2007, 05:18 PM

Superbeast

07-21-2007, 05:35 PM

fully expect frontline to reveal

That Tony and Hulk responbilly for deaths in new york

What's that mean in English?

CMBMOOL

07-21-2007, 06:33 PM

I believe that I read in a solicit that the Hulk sets up a battle Colosseum in central park. Not sure where I heard this, and I don't know how a trial works from his planet having not read Planet Hulk (a mistake I am regretting).

Thus I don't think he intends to kill anyone. It seems he needs to figure out where the bomb came from.

Yep it was the solicit for issue #4 of WWH. To me, I think the Hulk is going to show the heroes what he had to endure during his exile by make them experience it.

That will teach them not to mess with the Hulk.:D

Euks

07-21-2007, 06:45 PM

I believe that I read in a solicit that the Hulk sets up a battle Colosseum in central park. Not sure where I heard this, and I don't know how a trial works from his planet having not read Planet Hulk (a mistake I am regretting).

Thus I don't think he intends to kill anyone. It seems he needs to figure out where the bomb came from.

But Hulk already knows (in his mind) where the bomb came from. It came from the Illuminati, who wanted to exile him and then destroy him (again in his mind). I don't see how having them fight each other will determine where the bomb came from. It might serve to show the Illuminati what he went through, but if he's going to do that it seems like he might want to have them suffer like he did and destroy their world...

ComicCollector777

07-21-2007, 08:36 PM

But Hulk already knows (in his mind) where the bomb came from. It came from the Illuminati, who wanted to exile him and then destroy him (again in his mind). I don't see how having them fight each other will determine where the bomb came from. It might serve to show the Illuminati what he went through, but if he's going to do that it seems like he might want to have them suffer like he did and destroy their world...

I think he's going to have a trial by combat kinda of thing based on the laws of Saakar (where the Hulk is king).

Its what normal countries/states do with their defeated enemies...hold a trial based on the state/country that captured them.

At the least, Tony & company have still got a chance for survival if its trial by combat and not faced summary execution! XD

jigrig

07-21-2007, 08:55 PM

I think he's going to have a trial by combat kinda of thing based on the laws of Saakar (where the Hulk is king).

Its what normal countries/states do with their defeated enemies...hold a trial based on the state/country that captured them.

At the least, Tony & company have still got a chance for survival if its trial by combat and not faced summary execution! XD

I bet Hulk has people Black Bolt Strange Richards & Stark hold dear & makes them believe They are fighting for Their lives & stops it only when They have beaten each other near death & just leaves.
Let them all think about how much & far They would go for Their loved ones.
Nah, probably not.
Besides, Richards & Stark would be done in one panel.