Rick Jones .. from Las Vegas to New York in less than 2 mintues ?!

[Evil Resident]

How the hell did he do that? :confused:

I smell Bull****!!

[Kevinroc]

That's something I wondered about. Did Strange teleport him to New York?

[Pro]

One of them is a skrull!

[Syzygy]

That's something I wondered about. Did Strange teleport him to New York?

Given that he fit the requirements of Strange's spell, it's easily possible.

Another possibility: he's not there at all, it's one of Strange's illusions.

[ShaggyB]

How the hell did he do that? :confused:

I smell Bull****!!

In my best chepelle show voice

B@#$, Im Rick Jones.


but yeah that needs to be explained but i think its in the next hulk issue which is weird sence #2 happens before the hercules fight in that

[dabig2]

Heh, maybe he kept one of Stark's jets onhand (see Runaways). But yeah, that's pretty strange.

[Magneto Rocks]

The same way Hulk took down Ares in one punch.

IE: Shut up, stop thinking and watch another mindles sslugfest :)

[Brian M.]

Micheal Bay and Jerry Bruckhiemer would be perfect to turn this into a movie.

[Jack-o-Lantern]

How the hell did he do that? :confused:

I smell Bull****!!



What are you talking about it's been a whole month!!!!! ;)

[dabig2]

The same way Hulk took down Ares in one punch.

IE: Shut up, stop thinking and watch another mindles sslugfest :)

Ares isn't worthy enough to be graced by Hulk's fist more than once.

[myslead]

Micheal Bay and Jerry Bruckhiemer would be perfect to turn this into a movie.

Hulk Harbor.

starring Ben Affleck and Josh Harnett

[Brian M.]

Hulk Harbor.

starring Ben Affleck and Josh Harnett

I was thinking more along the lines of Armaggedon meets Transformers.

[ultimate hulk]

i think the fight between hulk and ironman went on for awhile...not mention the fight the hulk and his warbound had with the avengers...in issue #107 it showed hercules and his team helping people from burning buildings while the fight between hulk and ironman raged on...that panel shows that the fight took awhile...enough time for rick jones to called shield and tell them he could probably help out the hulk...and i'm thinking with all the cool tech shield has...they could be in and out of vegas in less than an hour...:D

[Kevinroc]

The same way Hulk took down Ares in one punch.

IE: Shut up, stop thinking and watch another mindles sslugfest :)

Meh, Oeming's mini not-withstanding, Ares was always kind of a wuss. :)

And Wonder Man's a jobber.

[thronzeblast]

Meh, Oeming's mini not-withstanding, Ares was always kind of a wuss. :)

And Wonder Man's a jobber.

I have no problem with wonderman going down but damn you gotta be pretty freaking bad to the god of war one punch should not have floored him.There making him out to be pretty weak over in Mighty avenger's as well.

[ultimate hulk]

I have no problem with wonderman going down but damn you gotta be pretty freaking bad to the god of war one punch should not have floored him.There making him out to be pretty weak over in Mighty avenger's as well.

or making the hulk mighty strong that he could take out ares with one punch...:D

[Mikl C]

Maybe he tapped his plot devicey destiny force powers.

[XPac]

or making the hulk mighty strong that he could take out ares with one punch...:D

Ares is only in the class 70 range if I'm not mistaken. But even regular Hulk is a LOT stronger. God of War or not, he's not in Hulks ballpark.

[Magneto Rocks]

And Wonder Man's a jobber.

Nope, Wonder Man's a jobbed-to. If many writers treated him anywhere near his power level he'd be among the most powerful marvel heroes.

You're just mad because not even Leader's Lair could spin a single Hulk win against old Wondy. :p

[Badfish40oz]

Didn't Wonderman get his ass handed to him by one of the Warbound?

[DaeJi]

Yes, he did. That seems to be Wonderman's function in the Marvel universe; getting his butt handed to him. Nevermind that he's near Thor-like levels (a guy who took on a whole gang of Korgs and scared them off with his power), he's Wonderman, the ultimate punching bag.

[myslead]

in meat bag form, they wouldn't laugh so hard if he was in Ion form.

or maybe they would ... lol

[Deus ex Chris]

in meat bag form, they wouldn't laugh so hard if he was in Ion form.
They'd laugh harder because of the lavender Kirby dots.

[ShaggyB]

Ares isn't worthy enough to be graced by Hulk's fist more than once.

hahahaha bow to the green king puny god

[ShaggyB]

Didn't Wonderman get his ass handed to him by one of the Warbound?

yes he did and hulks grey friend (name please. "the shamed" guy) launched luke cage away

[Scavenger]

Rick Jones carries a pocket teleporter in his back pocket just in case he has to get from Las Vegas to New York in less than 2 minutes.


What? He did, didn't he?

[Exo]

No Skrulls in WWH.

[ivesaidway2much]

No Skrulls in WWH.Anyone could be a Skrull. Even if they aren't revealed in WWH. I think it's fairly unlikely that no one in the story is actually a Skrull.

[Quinch]

Nope, Wonder Man's a jobbed-to. If many writers treated him anywhere near his power level he'd be among the most powerful marvel heroes.

You're just mad because not even Leader's Lair could spin a single Hulk win against old Wondy. :p
You keep misusing the jobbing thing.

It's a wrestling term right? Pretend that wrestlings real for a moment.
You want to make a new guy or a returning guy someone seem uber then you get someone as an opponent who should realistically win fall over for the new guy.
HBK *jobbed* to Cena to make Cena look good. HHH has also *jobbed* to Cena. Hulk Hogan jobbed to the new champ Brock.

The Hulk has been in this position for a few years and was almost heading down Terrax's long lonely path to getting beaten up by anyone in a cape.

Hulk was in this position against Void. Surfer against Thanos. Galactus to the Beyonder. Darkseid original.
This is fine for a while - but if the same character keeps getting treated this way such as Terrax and very very nearly Hulk then they become the below :

Career Jobbers :
They may get the odd win and may look big and tough - but normally stay lower mid card -these are wonderful *kill main embarrass and humiliate fodder* for the new bad guy on the block. Matt Hardy when Brock Lesnar appeared. Kane when Umaga debuted.

These would be such as Wonder Man, Ambomination and Terrax. Offically strong and in the case of Terrax - hard to see how people would put him down but - Sentry, Ravenous Thanos etc when they need to use and abuse a herald always pick him first. Wonderman is often said to be in Thors league but appearences and win loss records are far far below Thor. Therefore he is a jobber.


Then of course there is the *wtf?* jobbing which is normally never mentioned again. Hulk losing to Spiderman, Firelord jobbing to Spiderman, everyone who has ever fought wolverine etc.

Noone is jobbing *to* to Hulk this time round. Its simply someone said' Ok lets just take the gloves offa Hulk and see what happens'
Unfortunately Hulks been jobbing so long that it's hard to convince people that this was always the way he was intended and mostly portrayed prior to PAD's run.
Hard as we can see from all the responses on comic forums all over. I think this portrayal was just in time.

[Quinch]

No Skrulls in WWH.

How do we know this? It's not as if writers would blow a huge ending now is it? Hal Jordan was supposed to be getting his own book untill the issue with his death came out last month. If the company want to keep it quiet they will keep it quiet - including flat out lying.

Plus ISWTM is correct. We've probably seen skrulls already.

[jigrig]

You keep misusing the jobbing thing.

It's a wrestling term right? Pretend that wrestlings real for a moment.
You want to make a new guy or a returning guy someone seem uber then you get someone as an opponent who should realistically win fall over for the new guy.
HBK *jobbed* to Cena to make Cena look good. HHH has also *jobbed* to Cena. Hulk Hogan jobbed to the new champ Brock.

The Hulk has been in this position for a few years and was almost heading down Terrax's long lonely path to getting beaten up by anyone in a cape.

Hulk was in this position against Void. Surfer against Thanos. Galactus to the Beyonder. Darkseid original.
This is fine for a while - but if the same character keeps getting treated this way such as Terrax and very very nearly Hulk then they become the below :

Career Jobbers :
They may get the odd win and may look big and tough - but normally stay lower mid card -these are wonderful *kill main embarrass and humiliate fodder* for the new bad guy on the block. Matt Hardy when Brock Lesnar appeared. Kane when Umaga debuted.

These would be such as Wonder Man, Ambomination and Terrax. Offically strong and in the case of Terrax - hard to see how people would put him down but - Sentry, Ravenous Thanos etc when they need to use and abuse a herald always pick him first. Wonderman is often said to be in Thors league but appearences and win loss records are far far below Thor. Therefore he is a jobber.


Then of course there is the *wtf?* jobbing which is normally never mentioned again. Hulk losing to Spiderman, Firelord jobbing to Spiderman, everyone who has ever fought wolverine etc.

Noone is jobbing *to* to Hulk this time round. Its simply someone said' Ok lets just take the gloves offa Hulk and see what happens'
Unfortunately Hulks been jobbing so long that it's hard to convince people that this was always the way he was intended and mostly portrayed prior to PAD's run.
Hard as we can see from all the responses on comic forums all over. I think this portrayal was just in time.

I couldnt have said it better, Hulk was intended to be what We are reading now but, it's a fact, Marvels writers had either little imagination or just contempt for the character & Pak has proven that Hulk can be taken as far as any other character.
On the rare occasion where Hulk was used as originally advertised it was only briefly & quickly forgotten so He could get jobbed by some experimental or failing title character.
What Hulk is doing now is scratching the surface.
If in fact there are skrulls responsible for what happened to Hulk, marvel shouldnt have a Huge Marvel event, I think Hulk would do just fine plus if all things are truly being equal in the Marvel Universe, Hulk would be redeemed.
No more crap about Hulk threatening the World, We have all seen & heard from the writers mouth that He has no intention of harming anyone who does not try to stop Him from exacting revenge which I know is a bad word to lots of folks but not to Myself & lots of other folks.
I guess We are just bad people in which case let Me take this opportunity to apologize for Us all.

[thronzeblast]

it's amazing people say hulk should not be able to beat this person and that person.Hulk has been fighting team's for year's now every team you can think of hulk has fought and most of the time single handedly.The avenger's,The x-men,Fantastic Four,Alpha flight.

Most of these fight's hulk has been his savage incarnation and has had the intelligence of a child fighting seasoned smart and powerful hero's.Hulk has been beat on for year's now he is due some pay back.It's not like there giving him anything everything he has done so far maybe with the exception of the blackbolt fight (which i will reserve judgement on because it was not shown)Has been within his capabilities.

[Quinch]

Yep guys.
Unfortunately as I've mentioned the X men for instance have had it their way for far too long - defeating beings they have no buisness fighting. On Scans Daily and here all the majority of whiners are X men fans - simply not liking it - they are looking everywhere for an out. Oh but Rogue would..Oh but Kitty could....Oh but Iceman..
The thing is Xavier was there, on the page, not being able to effect Hulk and yet X fans are *still* saying 'no way'. Doesn't matter if its conitinuity that Hulk on high levels of rage has always been immune to tk and mental attack . They simply won't believe it.
If they won't believe what is printed on the page then I've come to the conclusion that there is no point debating Iceman or Rogue who aren't even there.

[ComicCollector777]

You keep misusing the jobbing thing.

It's a wrestling term right? Pretend that wrestlings real for a moment.
You want to make a new guy or a returning guy someone seem uber then you get someone as an opponent who should realistically win fall over for the new guy.
HBK *jobbed* to Cena to make Cena look good. HHH has also *jobbed* to Cena. Hulk Hogan jobbed to the new champ Brock.

The Hulk has been in this position for a few years and was almost heading down Terrax's long lonely path to getting beaten up by anyone in a cape.

Hulk was in this position against Void. Surfer against Thanos. Galactus to the Beyonder. Darkseid original.
This is fine for a while - but if the same character keeps getting treated this way such as Terrax and very very nearly Hulk then they become the below :

Career Jobbers :
They may get the odd win and may look big and tough - but normally stay lower mid card -these are wonderful *kill main embarrass and humiliate fodder* for the new bad guy on the block. Matt Hardy when Brock Lesnar appeared. Kane when Umaga debuted.

These would be such as Wonder Man, Ambomination and Terrax. Offically strong and in the case of Terrax - hard to see how people would put him down but - Sentry, Ravenous Thanos etc when they need to use and abuse a herald always pick him first. Wonderman is often said to be in Thors league but appearences and win loss records are far far below Thor. Therefore he is a jobber.


Then of course there is the *wtf?* jobbing which is normally never mentioned again. Hulk losing to Spiderman, Firelord jobbing to Spiderman, everyone who has ever fought wolverine etc.

Noone is jobbing *to* to Hulk this time round. Its simply someone said' Ok lets just take the gloves offa Hulk and see what happens'
Unfortunately Hulks been jobbing so long that it's hard to convince people that this was always the way he was intended and mostly portrayed prior to PAD's run.
Hard as we can see from all the responses on comic forums all over. I think this portrayal was just in time.

Completely agree with you...for a long time characters like the Hulk and the Surfer have been jobbing to lesser characters - especially the latter to Thanos. At one stage, the Sufer's role seems just to evaluate bad guys! XD

[Kid Kamikaze10]

I'm gonna have to say, before we get back on topic, that Wonderman is a jobber, when he really shouldn't be.

I mean, if you read the Last Avengers Story, Wonderman literally took on the Hulk by himself, and almost won (he had to self-destruct). And he really is almost on Thor's level, but most writers don't care because they think he's wack. Like I do.

[Exo]

Anyone could be a Skrull. Even if they aren't revealed in WWH. I think it's fairly unlikely that no one in the story is actually a Skrull.

I ment as a plotpoint. You won't see the real Rick Jones tied up somewhere in Vegas.

QUESTION: Skrulls in WWH?

ANSWER: “No, totally separate stories. Though WWH will effect New Avengers” – Brevoort.

WWH and the Skrull invasion are two separate stories. It doesn't rule out that anyone can still be a skrull in disguise (including Rick Jones) in WWH.

[Quinch]

WWH and the Skrull invasion are two separate stories. It doesn't rule out that anyone can still be a skrull in disguise (including Rick Jones) in WWH.

I do tend to agree that there will be no Skrull reveals in WWH- BUT to trust writers on what they say is foolhardy.
Again I will bring your attention to 'Hal Jordan definately will not die - he has a big story arc coming out in his own book' thing that all DC staffers said - right before he died.

[Exo]

BUT to trust writers on what they say is foolhardy.

We can't prove that he's lying. He says "no skrulls in WWH" and his word is absolute and that's that. I'm not going to pursue this any further.

[Quinch]

We can't prove that he's lying. He says "no skrulls in WWH" and his word is absolute and that's that. I'm not going to pursue this any further.

Uh ok..But to take a writers word absolutely when they DO lie to keep surprises hidden is just naive.

[Exo]

Uh ok..But to take a writers word absolutely when they DO lie to keep surprises hidden is just naive.

He could have easily said "wait and see", "maybe" or "no comment" when he insisted on there be no skrulls in this event. There's no way around such a statement unless I sport your mentality and simply don't take his word for it.

Of course there could be skrulls who orchestrated WWH (it's comic books and things change all the time). But when the man flat out states "no skrulls", with no room for interpretation, there's no debate. Unless your skepticism gets the better of you.

[crimson red]

I have no problem with wonderman going down but damn you gotta be pretty freaking bad to the god of war one punch should not have floored him.There making him out to be pretty weak over in Mighty avenger's as well.

Yeah when you also count the fact that as the God of War, Ares is supposedly master of all known combat. He probably spent more time fighting in a gladitorial fashion than the Hulk who only spent a few months in the arenas. Oh well...Ares was always portrayed as a pussy before he "HAD" the power up.