Cross-Posted CBR Madman Project

[Joe Rice]

If you didn't already know (and you should, if you really like comics), Mike Allred's new incarnation of Madman just released it's third issue. The story is about the main character trying to strip away fictional memories and personalities as he is lead through his own inner space by an outward manifestation of his own psyche.

OK, that's interesting enough, but as the titles "Swiped from Dimension X" implies, he does this by swiping various art styles and well-known pieces. For instance, on the first page you get a panel done in Windsor McCay's style, one done in Segar's style, etc. Each panel (or sometimes panel cluster) is done in a different style (each corresponding with the theme of said panel in some way) and possibly directly swiped from a specific panel, painting, or moment onscreen (i.e. the Chuck Jones panel on the second page of the tributres).

It's a monumental showcase of the great talent Allred has and of his absolute love of the visual storytelling forms. I thought it would be fun if we (the comm and classics board posters) could try to really match up each panel with the artist to whom it pays tribute. On the indica page there's a list of the artists and . . .they're in order. So at first I thought there was no point. BUT some panels have more than one artist involved. Let's decipher each drawing, label them, and allow the world the bask in our nerdy, art-knowledgeable glory.

[Joe Rice]

The first page of tributes:

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[Joe Rice]

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[Joe Rice]

I don't want to be one of those posters who has a thread that's just him talking to himself. So if anyone finds this interesting, jump in. I just got very self-conscious after thinking about a certain TV viewing thread.

[Lone Ranger]

Joe

That stuff is great.

Madman was one of the few titles I bought consistently during my starving student phase in the early and mid-90s.

I've placed a moratorium on comic book purchases (new house and baby), but I'll have to pick these up.

Some are certainly a bit more subtle (Roy Crane) than others (Tex Avery).

I'd love to see him continue into later years (Steve Ditko, Charles Shulz, Gary Larsen and perhaps someone a bit less well known like Pete Morisi).

Are these all of the panels? Are they all solved?

As for the Classics board - there are fewer regulars on here than Comm so replies can be a bit slower at times - plus we are all old so we are dealing with a combination of arthritis and dial-up.

[Joe Rice]

Joe

That stuff is great.

Madman was one of the few titles I bought consistently during my starving student phase in the early and mid-90s.

I've placed a moratorium on comic book purchases (new house and baby), but I'll have to pick these up.

Some are certainly a bit more subtle (Roy Crane) than others (Tex Avery).

I'd love to see him continue into later years (Steve Ditko, Charles Shulz, Gary Larsen and perhaps someone a bit less well known like Pete Morisi).

Are these all of the panels? Are they all solved?

As for the Classics board - there are fewer regulars on here than Comm so replies can be a bit slower at times - plus we are all old so we are dealing with a combination of arthritis and dial-up.

There's an entire comic left . . .and Cox has started correcting what I've done so far. The Barks panel is both him and Gottfriedson . . .Foster's is his alone. I also said Chuck AVERY rather than Jones.

[Joe Rice]

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Corrections welcome.

Edit: Corrected.

Edit: Again.

[Joe Rice]

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[Joe Rice]

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Edit: Corrected.

[scratchie]

I don't want to be one of those posters who has a thread that's just him talking to himself. So if anyone finds this interesting, jump in. I just got very self-conscious after thinking about a certain TV viewing thread.I love it. Keep 'em coming. For me, a lot of the panels were very familiar, but I could rarely identify the specific homage in question.

[Joe Rice]

Need help on this one:
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Names, in order as listed:
Harvey Kurtzman, Will Elder, Johnny Craig, Bernie Krigstein, Jack Davis

Do they correspond to each panel?

EDIT: Still not certain on Davis . . .and LR disagrees. FIGHT IT OUT WITH COX!

[Lone Ranger]

Need help on this one:
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Names, in order as listed:
Harvey Kurtzman, Will Elder, Johnny Craig, Bernie Krigstein, Jack Davis

Do they correspond to each panel?

Not in that order - Krigstein is the floating heads (#3?), Craig bottom left (#4?)

More to come - gotta run.

More: Kurtzman and Elder are 1 & 2, I guess #5 is Davis, but it could be better.

[dan bailey]

I'd love to see him continue into later years (Steve Ditko, Charles Shulz, Gary Larsen and perhaps someone a bit less well known like Pete Morisi).

Ditko (though I can't recognize his style in this case) & Schulz are interpreted in the comic, though not (if memory serves) Larsen or any of the more or less Charlton-specific (other than Ditko) artists like Morisi or Pat Boyette or Tom Sutton, I don't think.



Are these all of the panels? Are they all solved?

There are, I guess, at the very least a couple of hundred panels, each devoted to one or more (some are represented via inking style, a la Ayers, Sinnott, Stone & Royer, respectively, on Kirby) artists.

Maybe I should've counted 'em crica midnight last night when I did my own Madman post ...
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[dan bailey]

On the indica page there's a list of the artists and . . .they're in order. So at first I thought there was no point. BUT some panels have more than one.

Geez, now I wish I'd brought my copy of the ish with me to work this a.m. I did so yesterday intending to delve into this very subject, but I guess I sort of guilted myself into *choke* doing some of the work I'm paid to actually perform, so instead I posted something truncated just before going to bed after midnight.

Anyway, if memory serves, the last dozen or so artists Allred listed don't seem to be in order -- pretty much those listed after, I believe, Moebius, an honor roll that includes such personal favorites of mine as John & Marie Severin & Russ Heath, along with George Tuska, Bob Powell, Don Heck & quite a few others. (To repeat myself, I'm working purely from memory here.) It's almost as if a final section of the comic is missing, or something ... Or maybe those guys are represented in inking styles (a la Sinnott, Royer, Stone & Ayers, respectively, on Kirby) somewhere & I completed missed it.


EDIT: Not Moebius, dammit, but another European artist with a really distinctive style, whose name I can't call for the life of me. Stupid memory ...

[Lone Ranger]

Hmmm...

I was looking at that one 'up the nostrils' shot and thinking it was pure Krigstein - never really bothered to look at other faces, nor the backgrounds etc... in the other panel (#4) I can see more Krigstein in the backgrounds (his painting influence) than the figures.

I concede to Alex.

But I really think that one 'up the nostril' guy is Krisgteinesque, but now I'm recalling at least one Craig cover where he used that angle.

At least we know Gil Kane wasn't the only one with a nostril fetish.

Jack Davis has a very distinctive style and a better job could have been done on him for sure.

[Joe Rice]

Pretty sure I'm right here:
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Edit: My confidence was bunk.

[Lone Ranger]

Hmmm....

I can certainly see Toth in the use of blacks, but it's a much more polished figure that we'd be used to seeing from him.

It's kind of reminding me of someone else, but not coming to mind right now. Could it be Frazetta as well?

Oops - just saw the correction. That's making me feel better.

Although I could probably buy Wood on those women - I like the fact that I don't know enough about comics to distinguish Frazetta gravity defying breasts from Wood gravity defying breasts.

[dan bailey]

Definitely Frazetta, from the female figures, though I don't really recognize his style in the rest of the panel. (Makes me wonder if some of the bigger panels don't incorporate more than one artist, as memory tells me was the case with Kirby & the various inkers.)



EDIT: Which is precisely what Joe said, now that I reread his original post. To LR's invocation of arthritis & dial-up let me add senility.

[Joe Rice]

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Maybe Romita and Ditko on the final panel as well? They are confounding me.

[Lone Ranger]

I don't see a lick of Ditko on that page at all.

That central figure in the Wood panel is almost a pure swipe of a Dynamo from THUNDER Agents pose.

I agree that the final is Premiani - pure Doom Patrol, an uncanny Cliff Steele head.

i don't know about the Kubert boys - but that's a Kubert Tarzan-style pose for Madman. Some nice scratchiness too.

[dan bailey]

Yeah -- as I mentioned in my original post last night, I never could find Ditko's style represented anywhere in the comic. Which is pretty odd, as he's probably as distinctive a stylist as the field as ever produced.

[Lone Ranger]

Which is pretty odd, as he's probably as distinctive a stylist as the field as ever produced.

And... I've always felt that Allred's Madman was always done in the spirit of Ditko (except for the being crazy aspect).

[Joe Rice]

The Comm board is thinking this is Ditko, but I'm seeing some Romita, too:

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Of course, it wouldn't be that easy. Allred drops the names of inkers . . .

Dick Ayers, Joe Sinnott, Chic Stone, Mike Royer

[dan bailey]

Actually, my initial impression is that the double-page spread at the top of the post represents only Allred, rather than Allred channeling other artists, as it shows various characters separate & apart from the internal reality being experienced by Madman & the other guy, who are the ones actually in the "Swiped from Dimension X" altered state.

Of course, my eyes & mind ain't what they used to be.

[Joe Rice]

I hope my confidence is founded for once:

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[Lone Ranger]

I am not seeing the Ditko on that page either.

As for the Kirby page.

The top middle pose is swiped from Daredevil #13. I believe that cover was inked by Romita, so I've got that stuck in my mind. Are you sure it couldn't be Romita?

The bottom Madman figure is Royer.

[dan bailey]

Definitely Steranko, almost certainly Barry Smith, probably Adams (not that good a representation of his style, IMHO). Miller I wouldn't know from a hole in the ground; isn't he some guy who writes movies I haven't the slightest interest in seeing when he's not busy waving the flag, promulgating extremely simplistic views of the Middle Eastern conflict, & scripting a surrealistically wretched & spectacularly perennially late Batman title?

[Slam_Bradley]

Definitely Frazetta, from the female figures, though I don't really recognize his style in the rest of the panel. (Makes me wonder if some of the bigger panels don't incorporate more than one artist, as memory tells me was the case with Kirby & the various inkers.)



Really? Because to me, the front face of Madman was vintage comic book Frazetta. There are parts of it that look Frazetta/Williamson.

[Joe Rice]

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[Joe Rice]

Now we are more fully in my territory.
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[MDG]

Really? Because to me, the front face of Madman was vintage comic book Frazetta. There are parts of it that look Frazetta/Williamson.

Coming late to this, but the grouping at the bottom is swi-- er, hommaged from a panel in Sqeeze Play, and I'm sure someone better versed in Frazetta can come up with the source for the two large figures.

On the Krigstein panel, I'm pretty sure the background comes from The Flying Machine, though i don't really see Krigstein in the characters.

I like Allred, but in most of these, it looks like he's basing figures on specific sources rater than "drawing in the style of..." Of course, he set out a pretty tough task.

MDG

[dan bailey]

Really? Because to me, the front face of Madman was vintage comic book Frazetta. There are parts of it that look Frazetta/Williamson.

I'm sure you're right. "Vintage comic book Frazetta" is one of my all-too-plentiful areas of relative ignorance. If I squint, though, I can see what you're talking about with the head-on shot, which I initially interpreted as extremely un-Frazette-ish.

[Joe Rice]

More awesome:
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[dan bailey]

Now we are more fully in my territory.


Whereas, quoting my post from last night, for me we've gotten to *choke*


a lot of current guys whose names I don't quite recognize & whose styles I couldn't pick out if my life depended on it.

[Aaron Kashtan]

Is there a name hidden anywhere in the Hirschfeld panel?

[Lone Ranger]

I'd be much better at this if Allred went with the Aparos, Dillins, Hecks and Buscema Bros.

A Charlton page would have been very cool - Pat Boyette, Pete Morisi. Hell, I think a Sanho Kim. Now that would be funny, and (for better or worse) I'd spot 'em in a heartbeat.

[dan bailey]

I'd be much better at this if Allred went with the Aparos, Dillins, Hecks and Buscema Bros.


Don Heck is supposedly referenced in the comic, but as noted previously I sure as heck can't find it anywhere (ditto for the Severins, Bob Powell, George Tuska, Russ Heath & quite a few others).

And last night I singled out the omission of Curt Swan as downright bizarre, but yes, I'd add Aparo, Dillin & the Buscemas as well. Also (unless, as is entirely possible, I'm completely forgetting them) Kurt Schaffenberger, Murphy Anderson, John Byrne, Nick Cardy & loads of others.

Maybe for a sequel ...!

[dan bailey]

A Charlton page would have been very cool - Pat Boyette, Pete Morisi. Hell, I think a Sanho Kim. Now that would be funny, and (for better or worse) I'd spot 'em in a heartbeat.

Hey, don't be greedy -- he did give us Wayne "Wally Wood" Howard ...

[Joe Rice]

Corrected:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1403/846192748_c1147efbcf_o.jpg

[Slam_Bradley]

On the Krigstein panel, I'm pretty sure the background comes from The Flying Machine, though i don't really see Krigstein in the characters.



I'll have to look at The Flying Machine when I get home. There really wasn't much about that panel that said Krigstein to me.

[dan bailey]

I can see Ditko in the poses, pretty much, but not the details ... But maybe that's just me.

[Joe Rice]

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[dan bailey]

Although I could probably buy Wood on those women - I like the fact that I don't know enough about comics to distinguish Frazetta gravity defying breasts from Wood gravity defying breasts.

This is some sort of Canadian euphemism with which I'm not familiar, I take it.

[Lone Ranger]

I'll have to look at The Flying Machine when I get home. There really wasn't much about that panel that said Krigstein to me.

Yeah - that's what I thought right off the bat, too.

That's why I thought the one face in 'floating heads' was Berni.

The backgrounds sold me on Krigstein - I'm still not seeing it in the figures.

It would have worked better with an odd Krigsteing panel layout.

[Lone Ranger]

This is some sort of Canadian euphemism with which I'm not familiar, I take it.

Well, I started typing "I could see how someone could get Wood by looking at those breasts".

[Joe Rice]

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[Lone Ranger]

I can see Ditko in the poses, pretty much, but not the details ... But maybe that's just me.


Not just you - he could have done something much more spectaculary Ditkoesque.

As an aside, is this actually a good story, or just a cool stunt - I think I'm missing the forest for the trees here.

[Slam_Bradley]

Yeah - that's what I thought right off the bat, too.

That's why I thought the one face in 'floating heads' was Berni.

The backgrounds sold me on Krigstein - I'm still not seeing it in the figures.

It would have worked better with an odd Krigsteing panel layout.


That would have helped. I don't pay diddly attention to backgrounds, so that would almost never sell something to me. The figures just did not look like Krigstein.

[Joe Rice]

Not just you - he could have done something much more spectaculary Ditkoesque.

As an aside, is this actually a good story, or just a cool stunt - I think I'm missing the forest for the trees here.

It's a pretty cool story, but doesn't stand alone too well . . .

[dan bailey]

some are represented via inking style, a la Ayers, Sinnott, Stone & Royer, respectively, on Kirby)

... but not Vinnie Colletta -- sorry, Ben-Day Dot!

Other distinctive inkers not represented, if memory serves -- Terry Austin, Klaus Janson, Bob McLeod, Tom Palmer (which calls to mind the seeming absence of Gene the Dean Colan from the pencillers' ranks), Jack Abel, George Klein ...

[dan bailey]

It's a pretty cool story, but doesn't stand alone too well . . .

I didn't actually read the story, because I've yet to read (though I did buy) the first 2 ishes. I figure I sort of need to read my umpteen Madman TPBs to get back up to speed. (I'm facing the same problem with the brand-newly revived Nexus, since I figure I'm now 80-plus issues behind ...)

[scratchie]

As an aside, is this actually a good story, or just a cool stunt - I think I'm missing the forest for the trees here.I zoned out about half-way through and just started digging the art. I've bought all three current issues of this comic and have enjoyed them in an "oh, cool?" sort of way, but I can't say the story has pulled me in.

[InfoBroker]

An ID party - Oh BOY!

LR is right about the reference to Daredevil #13 cover. Kirby drawing, Romita inks.

However, the pose directly to the left is all Romita, from his first year doing Spidey. I know it well cause I pose swiped it for an adventure of my all-not-so-original Stinger super-hero. I think it is either issue #48 page 2 or so with Spidey catching a cold whole web-swinging in the snow, or its from issue #46.

The pose with the dialog balloon "Go on" is a Ditko pose of Giant-man taken from either issue 61 of Astonish (or there abouts) or Spidey Annual #1.

That's a Don Heck Female on the left hand side of the page. Pepper Potts pose I think, but the red hair might be influences that.

- jb the ib -

[InfoBroker]

An ID party - Oh BOY!
The pose with the dialog balloon "Go on" is a Ditko pose of Giant-man taken from either issue 61 of Astonish (or there abouts) or Spidey Annual #1.


Which is indeed a variant of the original MMMS Spidey t-shirt. Or versee-vicee, since the Giant-man pose came first.

- jb the (covering his bases) ib -

[Joe Rice]

In progress:Up to date:

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[Joe Rice]

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[Lone Ranger]

"sszz" - has got to be Bernie Wrightson

[Joe Rice]

"sszz" - has got to be Bernie Wrightson

I thought so, but wasn't familiar enough to lay it down.

[Kan-Man]

And I think "urp" is Don Martin, not Sergio. The nose looks very Martin-esque to me.

[Joe Rice]

And I think "urp" is Don Martin, not Sergio. The nose looks very Martin-esque to me.

Yeah, that was dumb of me.

[Lone Ranger]

I thought so, but wasn't familiar enough to lay it down.

It immediately brought to mind Wrightson's classic Frankenstein adaptation.

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"Bah" is driving me crazy - is that supposed to be Tuska?

The one to the left of Crumb makes me think of Ron Lim's Thanos. Other thoughts?

[dan bailey]

"Bah" is driving me crazy - is that supposed to be Tuska?


I'm thinking so. At the very least, it's got his trademark "mouthguard" (as I always think of it -- no separations between the teeth) effect.

[dan bailey]

Gary Larsen is to the immediate right of the (re-identified) Don Martin.

Maybe the final panel beside the "Meh" face is supposed to be John Severin? Hard to tell.

I have to say, I don't find the Corben, CC Beck or Mac Raboy panels particularly recognizable ...

Glad to see my memory was malfunctioning earlier when I said I thought that Big John Buscema & Gene the Dean Colan weren't represented.

[Kan-Man]

I just started reading this thread, so I'm way behind, but I think the panel ID'ed as Dick Sprang back on page one is actually Jerry Robinson.

Doesn't it look a lot like this?

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[Rob Allen]

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Edit: Corrected.

The artist whose style was adopted by the entire Harvey line was Warren Kremer. Is his name mentioned? I don't have the Madman book to check.

And I don't agree with the CC Beck id on that panel.

[Kan-Man]

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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the face to the left of Oeming is Carmine Infantino's Robin from that classic Batman and Robin shot on the rooftop (the one that was used on the cover of Batman from the 30s to the 70s if that helps at all.)

[spoon_jenkins]

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Wow. I'll take a guess that the one saying "Bah!" is a la John Buscema (or maybe Sal).

I also agree with the opinion that the page that some people say is Ditko or Romita is just Allred as Allred. The poses would be much funkier if it was Ditko - arms and legs at various angles, some hands with figures splayed out, etc.

[dan bailey]

The panel to the right of the "Bah!" head looks more like Corben -- sort of air-brushed, for starters -- to me than the earlier Corben ID ...

I don't really see Gil Kane in the one ID'd as representing his style, either.

[InfoBroker]

The guesses are also being updated on the comm board.


And I don't think kan-man's Infantino guess is too much of a stretch, as I was thinking of the very same pose from the pin-up earlier today.

-jb the (but it could also source to a lot of other things as well) ib -

[InfoBroker]

I don't really see Gil Kane in the one ID'd as representing his style, either.

I do. A Warlock cover is what is peculating in my cranium. But it could be lots of other Gil Kane faces from the 70s.

-jb the ib -

[Kid Omega]

The panel to the right of the "Bah!" head looks more like Corben -- sort of air-brushed, for starters -- to me than the earlier Corben ID ...

I don't really see Gil Kane in the one ID'd as representing his style, either.

It's the hair, and the line work around the mouth.

[dan bailey]

It's the hair, and the line work around the mouth.

Well, yeah, I see what you mean, especially with the mouth, but I still don't find it particularly close.

Too, to me nothing says quintessential Kane like an up-the-nostrils shot ...

[InfoBroker]

Ok, here we go. Source images (at least were I had comics not still in storage) for this very interesting and fun comical book.

First off, though I didn't make it to the party till long after Frazetta's name was attached, here are the three panels from the only EC interior story that Frank illustrated. I put the Madman panel in the middle to make it easier to scroll and link to the source.



http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/frazetta1.jpg


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/frazetta3.jpg



http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/frazetta2.jpg

The blue garbed gal standing in the back is the only that doesn't source back to these three panels. I don't even think she's a Frazetta gal, she's just there to balance and mask the larger background images so they link clean to the overall composition.

The clouds in the background are from a Poe poem illustrated by Frank and published in Witzend and probably elsewhere since.

I was going to number the figures, but I figured you guys could make all the connections. Besides who want to block the view?

- jb the (not me) ib -

[InfoBroker]

Now this pose immediately flashed an Steve Ditko drawing of Giant-man in my mind.


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/spidey3.jpg

This one to be precise. This is indeed from Amazing Spidey Annual #1 like I mentioned, and while it is close it is no cigar.


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/spidey1.jpg

But flip a few pages further and you hit the jackpot. And again as I mentioned before, this is the image that was used for the first Spidey t-shirt way back in 1965.


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/spidey2.jpg

Course you gotta do a horizontal flip on the image, and while easy to do in photoshop, I'll spare ROK and Dan and Cherokee Jack some bandwidth. Well a llittle anyway.

And sorry about the scans coming from the Masterpiece reprints and their inferior coloring. My Spidey comics are still not unpacked.

-jb the (yea I know, where are my priorities) ib -

[Kan-Man]

Ok, here we go. Source images (at least were I had comics not still in storage) for this very interesting and fun comical book.

First off, though I didn't make it to the party till long after Frazetta's name was attached, here are the three panels from the only EC interior story that Frank illustrated. I put the Madman panel in the middle to make it easier to scroll and link to the source.



http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/frazetta1.jpg


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/frazetta3.jpg



http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/frazetta2.jpg

The blue garbed gal standing in the back is the only that doesn't source back to these three panels. I don't even think she's a Frazetta gal, she's just there to balance and mask the larger background images so they link clean to the overall composition.

The clouds in the background are from a Poe poem illustrated by Frank and published in Witzend and probably elsewhere since.

I was going to number the figures, but I figured you guys could make all the connections. Besides who want to block the view?

- jb the (not me) ib -

About 25 years ago or so, while walking home from junior high, I found a hardcover book with full cover EC reprints. I'm almost positive this Frazetta story was one of them. He winds up drowning at the end, right? Actually this one and one other are the only two I recall and they both scared the bejeezus out of me. In the second one, a man kills his wife and stuffs her down the trash compactor. Later that night he has company over and his wife's blood comes gushing out of every faucet in the house. I didn't sleep for days.

[InfoBroker]

These are some of the others identified earlier. I will find some source (I hope) for them as well.


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/BruneHogarth.jpg

Brune Hogarth - from his Dynamic Anatomy books, and as Kid Omega reinforced, about a zillion of his Tarzans.


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And while I too am shaking my head like Rob about the CC Beck source, the head to the left of that is P. Craig Russell.

I filled nearly half a sketchbook with Russell pose swipes, for research and reference way back in my college art majoring days (late 70s). I did that head, and several very similar to it, along with arms, full figures, feet, and other body parts to boot. The other half is loaded with Wrightson and Kaluta studies.


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/kaluta.jpg

The head on the right I think is Kaluta, but I only base that on the light sourcing, the shapes around the eye socket area, the nose construction (although P.C. Russell did similar) and the angular jaw. It's a stretch, but with these head shots, there isn't much to go on. I think its from his Metropolis book. Maybe, just maybe my copy of that will surface before the polar caps completely melt.

-jb the (yea I think I still have those sketchbooks) ib -

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About 25 years ago or so, while walking home from junior high, I found a hardcover book with full cover EC reprints. I'm almost positive this Frazetta story was one of them.


Yeppers, the book you are thinking of, Horror Comics of the 1970s, is my source. I got my copy fresh from the Nostalgia Book Club in 1972. Also where I got All In Color for A Dime, and a Jim Harmon book on the Golden Age of Radio.

This book was some of my earliest contact with EC comics. I had some reprints in fanzine like Spa Fon and Squa Tront. Witzend also published a classic Wally Wood story that had originally been done in 3-D but never printed. The Witzend version was only the original B&W material. No adjusted red or blue printed overlays and no glasses. But it still carried a tremendous sense of depth.


"He winds up drowning at the end, right?

Oh Yea! Dirty Harry got what was coming to him.



Actually this one and one other are the only two I recall and they both scared the bejeezus out of me.

Page ahead to the early 1980s, with my two sons not yet able to read, and me pulling this down from the shelf for a reread. My wife says to me, "you will keep that book away from the boys until they are a lot older won't you?"

It wasn't exactly a question.

-jb the (not that she needed to mentioned it) ib -

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http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/romitaInfluence.jpg


In the upper left corner, this all solid Romita work. The anatomy, the classic brushwork. It is indeed a classic Spidey pose, in this case from the splash page of issue #48.


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/spidey4.jpg


The one in the center as mentioned by LR, is indeed a Kirby drawing, inked by Romita, from the cover of DD #13. I assume everyone here know how to use GCD for that image comparison. (Again saving some load time for the dial-uppers).

Finally the gorgeous Gwen pose, this from what I like to call the party issue of John's first year on Spidey, issue 47.


http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x161/infobroker/gwen.jpg


-jb the (wow did I steal a lot of poses from these early Romita issues in my formative art drawing years) ib -