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Lord of Nonsensical Crap
07-16-2007, 10:23 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19778870/?GT1=10150

KASHIWAZAKI, Japan - A strong earthquake struck northwestern Japan on Monday, causing a fire and radioactive water leak at the world’s largest nuclear plant. At least eight people were killed and hundreds injured in the 6.8 magnitude quake that collapsed wooden houses, ripped apart roads and buckled seaside bridges.

Flames and billows of black smoke poured from the Kashiwazaki nuclear plant — the world’s largest in terms of power output capacity. It took two hours to extinguish the fire in an electrical transformer, said Motoyasu Tamaki, a Tokyo Electric Power Co. official.

The plant leaked about 315 gallons of water, said Katsuya Uchino, another Tokyo Electric official. Uchino said the water contained a tiny amount of radioactive material and is believed to have flushed into the Sea of Japan.

“The radioactivity is one-billionth of the legal limit,” Oshima said.

The quake, which left fissures 3 feet wide in the ground along the coast, hit shortly after 10 a.m. local time and was centered off Niigata state. Buildings swayed 160 miles away in Tokyo. Sirens wailed in Kashiwazaki, a city of about 90,000, which appeared to be hardest hit.

Japan’s Meteorological Agency measured the quake at a 6.8 magnitude. Near midnight Monday, another 6.8-magnitude quake hit off Japan’s west coast, according to the U.S. Geological Survey, which said the initial quake registered 6.7.

“I was so scared — the violent shaking went on for 20 seconds,” Ritei Wakatsuki, who was at her job in a convenience store in Kashiwazaki. “I almost fainted by the fear of shaking.”

Nuclear plant is huge
Tokyo Electric said the water leak had stopped and that there had been no “significant change” in the seawater under surveillance and no effect on the environment, but the developments at Kashiwazaki triggered fresh concern about the earthquake resistance of Japan’s nuclear power plants, which supply nearly a third of the country’s electricity.

Aileen Mioko Smith, of the environmentalist group Green Action, said the fire showed that some facilities at nuclear power plants such as electrical transformers were built to lower quake-resistance levels than other equipment such as reactor cores.

“That’s the Achilles heel of nuclear power plants,” said Mioko Smith. “Today’s a good example of that... How prepared are they to put out fires when they happen?

The Kashiwazaki-Kariwa plant is the world’s largest nuclear power facility with an output capacity of 8.21 million kilowatts. By comparison, the largest U.S. nuclear power facility, in Palo Verde, Ariz., has an output capacity of 3.88 million kilowatts, according to the Nuclear Energy Institute.

The quake hit on Marine Day, a national holiday in Japan, when most people would have been at home.

Elderly victims
Five women and three men — all either in their 70s or 80s — were killed, according to the National Police Agency in Tokyo and NHK, which reported more than 800 people were hurt.

Nearly 300 homes in Kashiwazaki — a city known mainly for its fishing industry — were destroyed and some 2,000 people evacuated, officials said.

A ceiling collapsed in a gym in Kashiwazaki where about 200 people had gathered for a badminton tournament, and one person was hurt, Kyodo reported. The quake also knocked a train car off the rails while it was stopped at a station. No one was injured.

Several bullet train services linking Tokyo to northern and northwestern Japan were suspended.

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe — whose ruling party is trailing in the polls — interrupted a campaign stop in southern Japan for upcoming parliamentary elections, rushed back to Tokyo and announced he would head to the damaged area. He later arrived in a blue uniform to survey the damage.

“Many people told me they want to return to their normal lives as quickly as possible,” Abe told reporters in Kashiwazaki. “The government will make every effort to help with recovery.”

Japan sits atop four tectonic plates and is one of the world’s most earthquake-prone countries. The last major quake to hit the capital, Tokyo, killed some 142,000 people in 1923, and experts say the capital has a 90 percent chance of suffering a major quake in the next 50 years.

In October 2004, a magnitude-6.8 earthquake hit Niigata, killing 40 people and damaging more than 6,000 homes. It was the deadliest to hit Japan since 1995, when a magnitude-7.2 quake killed 6,433 people in the western city of Kobe.

The Meteorological Agency warned that the aftershocks could continue for a week.


Gentlemen? Discuss.

HomerJay
07-16-2007, 10:29 AM
I'll refrain from the obvious Godzilla jokes.

Pinnacle
07-16-2007, 10:33 AM
My thoughts and prayers to anyone who lost a loved one, was injured, or had property damaged.

Also, I hope that environmental concerns are addressed. Doesn't sound too bad this time but definitely something that needs to be studied and used as a learning tool before something worse occurs. But I'm just a layman when it comes to this type of stuff.

Toku King
07-16-2007, 10:41 AM
Very sad. My regards go out to the ones who lost one of those eight.

Winslow
07-16-2007, 10:51 AM
I remembered the 1995 Kobe quake, but for some reason forgot the 2004 quake.

And Nuclear Power generates a third of Japan's electricity . . . . I didn't know that.

Sad for the lives lost, but thankful it wasn't worse.

Kirk G
07-16-2007, 01:25 PM
I remembered the 1995 Kobe quake, but for some reason forgot the 2004 quake.

And Nuclear Power generates a third of Japan's electricity . . . . I didn't know that.

Sad for the lives lost, but thankful it wasn't worse.

I was reminded of the October 15th, 2006 7.2 quake in Hawaii that I was right on top of.
Ironically, the night before, I had watched two documentaries on Tsunami and East Coast Tsunami on the Discovery channel less than 12 hours before the quake.
And, LAST NIGHT, I saw the East Coast Tsunami program air again on cable...and then this!

We escaped without major damage or injury in Hawaii as the quake occurred there at 7:07 a.m. and no one was sitting in the stone church that collapsed.

However, since the major highway (only 2 lane highway) that rings the big island was severed with the collapse of a bridge, transportation around the big island was severely hampered.
Our resort hotel complex took GREAT care of us, and accomodated our every need, despite their staff being homeless or being unsure where their family members were or how bad it was.

We were about 10-15 miles away from the big island airport, and so, the next morning, we able to fly out without any complication to our 10 day trip of three islands in Hawaii.

But the memory of more than 30 seconds intense shaking makes me feel for those in Japan near the quake today....

Charles RB
07-16-2007, 02:44 PM
“The radioactivity is one-billionth of the legal limit,” Oshima said.

Thank Christ.

mgs
07-16-2007, 02:58 PM
Geologically, Japan is in for some rough times, as has been known for a while. Either earthquakes, overpopulation, tsunami's, rising ocean levels or other remain major hazards for the islands country.

Buried Alien
07-16-2007, 04:32 PM
Mike and Kyoko (Sharpshooter and Snow Sabre) just arrived in Japan on Saturday. They and their two kids are fine, glad to say. Knowing Koko, though, she's probably taken a Geiger counter to the kids already.

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

Citizen V
07-16-2007, 06:35 PM
I have a overseas friend who has grandparents and a great-grandparent there.Thankfully,all are fine.

Wesley Dodds
07-16-2007, 06:56 PM
I have a few friends in Japan -- as they're not in their 70s, I can breathe a sign of relief.

TheLazy
07-17-2007, 01:17 AM
Obvious condolences to those that have lost relatives. This makes me wonder though, what would happen if a quake happened directly under a nuclear power plant?

sabongero
07-17-2007, 05:46 AM
Right now the best thing to do is to search for survivors. I hope that special rescue teams have been put together by countries made up of miners who will have to dig out some debris to reach victims who are still alive. Technically, people can survive up to two to three weeks at the most. I was in a major earthquake that was like an 8 or a 9 in the rictor scale back in July 16, 1990 in the Far East.

Winslow
07-17-2007, 06:04 AM
Obvious condolences to those that have lost relatives. This makes me wonder though, what would happen if a quake happened directly under a nuclear power plant?

They don't build nuclear power plants right over the top of a fault line.

At least I really really really hope engineers aren't THAT stupid.

cable guy
07-17-2007, 06:20 AM
Geologically, Japan is in for some rough times, as has been known for a while. Either earthquakes, overpopulation, tsunami's, rising ocean levels or other remain major hazards for the islands country.

I heard about earthquake predictions... not of the other stuff though.

But it makes sense.

TheLazy
07-17-2007, 08:05 AM
They don't build nuclear power plants right over the top of a fault line.

At least I really really really hope engineers aren't THAT stupid.

Earth moves, whats to say 1000 years from now (however unlikely) it wont migrate under and near one?

Winslow
07-17-2007, 09:03 AM
Earth moves, whats to say 1000 years from now (however unlikely) it wont migrate under and near one?

Doesn't really work like that. It takes millions of years for techtonic plates to move, and nuclear power plants only last about 50 years or so.

Under the hypothetical that engineers were stupid enough to locate a a power plant over a fault, I'm pretty sure a Chernobyl-like China syndrome disaster would occur.

Jack Zodiac
07-17-2007, 09:11 AM
I doubt it. Modern nuclear power is a lot safer than Sputnik-tech nuclear power plants. A lot safer. You could bomb a nuclear power plant and the uranium would stay safe and secure in their barrels. The biggest concern is ground water contamination, which is why nuclear power plants are buily safely away from drinking water sources, and secured enough that even if they had a leak, the water would be contained. This was a freak accident, which is why the water was leaked into an open source. And like the report said, even the water was as uncontaminated as possible. 1/1,000,000,000th the legal limit?

The most fatal disaster here was the earthquake. I hope those injured weren't injured enough to suffer fatally later.

TheLazy
07-17-2007, 09:41 AM
Doesn't really work like that. It takes millions of years for techtonic plates to move, and nuclear power plants only last about 50 years or so.

Under the hypothetical that engineers were stupid enough to locate a a power plant over a fault, I'm pretty sure a Chernobyl-like China syndrome disaster would occur.

Thought they lasted 300+ years for each reactor?

Winslow
07-17-2007, 10:05 AM
Thought they lasted 300+ years for each reactor?

I don't know.

But it's a lot less than millions of years.