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sabongero
07-13-2007, 01:10 AM
What is your verdict on Ryan Choi, The All New Atom ? Do you think he will keep the manlte of The Atom ? Will his series continue, or will the pubs be pulled ?

What purpose will he serve, if Ray Palmer is brought back to the mainstream DCU. Will there be 2 Atoms then ? Or perhaps just like Bart Allen, Ryan Choi will end up as meat for the insects in a cemetery ?

Matthew E
07-13-2007, 07:24 AM
Well, wait: my verdict or my prediction?

I don't have a prediction; I have no idea what DC is going to do. Here's a guess: they're going to dispose of Ray Palmer in some way. Not necessarily kill him, but retire him as a superhero. And Ryan will continue to be the Atom.

That's in the short term. Long term, they'll probably both be around. After all, Oliver Queen and Connor Hawke are both around. Hal Jordan and Kyle Rayner are both around. Jason Todd and Tim Drake are both around. That's just how they roll in the DCU.

My verdict is that Ryan is a cool character, his comic book is ten pounds of fun in a five pound bag, the Lighter Than Air Society is one of the best ideas I've run into recently, and Head is the Sensational Character Find of 2006.

Cayman
07-13-2007, 07:45 AM
The book itself has been an erratic read but the character is an appealing one and will hopefully stick around.

Brack360
07-13-2007, 10:28 AM
This is a great character and a great series that is too underrated in my opinion. I wouldn’t be surprised if the book is cancelled within a year due to low sales and if Ray Palmer returns as the Atom, especially after what just happened to Bart Allen. I think Ryan Choi is an interesting and complex character and it would be a shame to waste him in favor of bringing Ray Palmer back. Two Atoms could coexist, like two Flashes and multiple Green Lanterns, or Ray could retire for good.

Cayman
07-13-2007, 10:33 AM
Choi could always take another identity if Ray Palmer does come back as The Atom.

Michael P
07-13-2007, 10:37 AM
I love the book and the character, but looking at it realistically, he's got a fatal case of Kyle Rayner Disease.

Jack Zodiac
07-13-2007, 01:01 PM
Verdict? Ryan Choi is an interesting, fun character, and The All-New Atom is a hilarious, action-packed book with lots of lighthearted fun and an awesome cast of supporting characters. I love it, almost as much as I love the new Blue Beetle, but I don't see either of them lasting in this market. They might stick around as characters, but their books probably won't, and all they'll be is more editor fodder in a decade or so.

SUPERECWFAN1
07-13-2007, 05:50 PM
I love the book and the character, but looking at it realistically, he's got a fatal case of Kyle Rayner Disease.

You mean he'll be around 10+ years and even if DC tries to put him as a background character , fans will wanna read his tales ? Because if I'm Ryan Chio I pray I get Kyle Rayner disease and not Jarrod Stevens disease where the character was so hated he was killed 2 to 3 years later.

rwe1138
07-13-2007, 06:12 PM
Love the book and like Ryan a lot. Hope it doesn't get cancelled soon.

sabongero
07-13-2007, 07:17 PM
I have enjoyed the series from issues #1 to #9. I have issues #10 -#12 but have not read them yet.

I hope they keep this series going. It's always nice to have a lighter-side series in the darkened DCU.

All New Atom all the way. And if I get a choice between Ray Palmer and Ryan Choi, I would have Ray Palmer be a member of either the JSA or JLA. And have Ryan Choi as the main character in the ALL NEW ATOM series.

Plus those professors playing poker in the basement are very hilarious.

Jack Zodiac
07-13-2007, 09:44 PM
Yeah, the Lighter Than Air Society's a riot. So's Panda, and the Dean, even crazy, little Dwarfstar. The book's got an awesome cast.

diablo7
07-13-2007, 10:35 PM
ray palmer's the atom i grew up with so i'd like to see him return.. they could put ray in jla and ryan in jsa that'd be cool..i do get the feeling that ray may become the atom again only to perish in final crisis, if not and he doesn't go back to being the atom i could see him as sort of an advisor to ryan. teaching him the hero thing and lending a helping hand when he needs some info..could be interesting

Tim OSullivan
07-14-2007, 12:13 AM
I have enjoyed the series from issues #1 to #9. I have issues #10 -#12 but have not read them yet.



How THE HELL can you have comics and NOT read them?!?!?!?:D

Tim OSullivan
07-14-2007, 12:16 AM
Big fan of the All-New Atom, especially the way Gail Simone incorporates Ryan Choi's culture as an important part of how the character, and the hero, approaches situations.

A great mix of old-time comics fun, action, and characterization!

sabongero
07-14-2007, 03:13 AM
How THE HELL can you have comics and NOT read them?!?!?!?:D

Haha. It's been busy at work all year. I volume purchase them at like 150-200 at a time every couple of months so I can get a 50 % discount with a couple of stores I deal with. I have like 40 to 50 comic book series per month on my pull list. :)

But if there is a comic that I can't wait to buy, then I purchase it sooner at full price.

4thHorseman
07-14-2007, 09:53 AM
It's hard for me to be interested in brand new characters, but Simone really made Choi a fun read for me. But when Palmer returns, it would be hard for me to just say "keep Choi", because Palmer IS the Atom, and always will be to me. So when he returns, I hope they keep them both around, perhaps Palmer more as a Justice League guy, while Choi stays as the regular series Atom.

kentonindy
07-14-2007, 12:15 PM
I'm really hoping that after 2008's "final crisis" that a number of the redundant but cool characters get their own universe. Essentially I'd like to get to see stories in Earth-8, which we never saw pre-COIE because Earth-8 hadn't been invented yet.

To keep this Earth distinctive, I would leave it without a Superman, Batman, or Wonder Woman. I'd like a Justice League with Ryan Choi/Atom, Jason Rusch/Firestorm, Helena Bertinelli/Huntress, Kyle Rayner/Green Lantern, A.J. Curry/Aquaman, and a new female Flash.

Other post-Crisis-created characters could also appear, like Conner Hawke, Artemis, Azrael, or Breach, while entirely new versions of Hawkman, Hawkwoman, Black Canary, and Red Tornado could be introduced.

Ryan's ATOM book would be the first book to get moved to this world, while others could be added along the way.

rwe1138
07-15-2007, 05:57 PM
Yeah, the Lighter Than Air Society's a riot. So's Panda, and the Dean, even crazy, little Dwarfstar. The book's got an awesome cast.

Don't forget HEAD! QQQQQQQQQQ!!!!! :D ;)

Jack Zodiac
07-15-2007, 06:50 PM
Orange soda or death! QQQQQ!

Babylon23
07-15-2007, 10:15 PM
I love this book and hope that it lasts as long as possible. Realistically, though, I can see it getting cancelled within the next 2 years. Sales haven't been too great unfortunately.

As for the Ryan Choi/Ray Palmer debate, I like them both. I'd like to see Ryan continue in the solo book with Ray serving on the JLA.

Tim OSullivan
07-15-2007, 10:37 PM
Haha. It's been busy at work all year. I volume purchase them at like 150-200 at a time every couple of months so I can get a 50 % discount with a couple of stores I deal with. I have like 40 to 50 comic book series per month on my pull list. :)

But if there is a comic that I can't wait to buy, then I purchase it sooner at full price.

Good call- I need to get in on a deal like that!

CBikle
07-16-2007, 01:22 PM
He's ok. A likable enough character, but Gail's writing is a little off; not her best work.

sabongero
07-16-2007, 06:36 PM
Good call- I need to get in on a deal like that!

There are several comic book shops in your area. Approach all of them and offer them a deal. Not all the shops will go for it, but some will go for it. Offer them you will buy 100 back issue comics for 50 % the price. If you plan on buying more, then go through their back issues and if you like a few runs more, then offer them you will buy a whole box of 300 comic book back issues at 33 % of the cost they are selling them.

Inform them that their comic books are increasing in volume. There are less and less people buying up back issues or recent back issues, that people would rather buy trade paperback format of back issues. Then tell them, you are doing them a favor by getting rid of comic books that most likely will not leave their comic boxes and accumulate a lot of dusts. Instead you are helping them make a profit rather than no profit at all.

Now don't be condescending in your tone. Just make sure to keep smiling and talk as if you have been friends with this person for a long time. Use hand gestures waving towards the volume of boxes of comic books taking up a lot of space, etc.

Cayman
07-16-2007, 06:37 PM
Hmm, Roger Stern's writing the October issue. What's up with that?

sabongero
07-16-2007, 06:55 PM
I like this series. The various parts of the book are okay, and put together makes a pretty good series. And it's good to see a positive feedback from the posters. Hopefully, they keep this series lasting much longer with Ryan Choi helming the mantle of The Atom, even if they bring back Ray Palmer.

This new Atom does grow on you, as you read more and more of this series. And it will have a very solid core following.

Along with all of the other fans, I for one hope this series reaches issue #100.

sabongero
07-16-2007, 06:58 PM
Hmm, Roger Stern's writing the October issue. What's up with that?

Really ? Hmmm...

What do you think of Roger Stern writing this series ? Could it change the mood ? Will the supporting characters be utilized in a different way, or even perhaps have a different voice than when they were written by Gail Simone.

Babylon23
07-17-2007, 12:29 AM
Really ? Hmmm...

What do you think of Roger Stern writing this series ? Could it change the mood ? Will the supporting characters be utilized in a different way, or even perhaps have a different voice than when they were written by Gail Simone.

Stern wrote the Ray Palmer Atom series from the late 80's. It could be that the issue ties into the Search for Ray Palmer storyline and DC thought it would be cool to have Stern write the character once again.

As a big Roger Stern fan I'm looking forward to seeing him writing for DC again, even if it's only a fill-in issue.

titanfan
07-17-2007, 10:42 AM
I think it's one of DC's smartest written books. Ryan is a likeable character and easy to get behind.

That said, this book doesn't "pop" for me all the time. After reading it, I'm always like "That issue was pretty good", but the comic book is never really that high on my anticipation list in terms of issues that I look forward to.

brundlefly
07-17-2007, 11:15 AM
Never was a big fan of the Atom/Ray Palmer, but when this OYL book launched the initial teaming of Simone and Byrne caught my attention, so I figured I would give it a try for at least a few issues. I'm glad I did; I really like the character of Ryan Choi and he's also got a great supporting cast. An excellent mix of humor and superhero adventure, imo. I hope this book gets to beat the odds and stick around for a long time, but I think that Ray Palmer's looming return in Countdown may spell the end. :(

Roger Stern
07-17-2007, 03:22 PM
Hmm, Roger Stern's writing the October issue. What's up with that?

QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ!!!

Really ? Hmmm...

What do you think of Roger Stern writing this series ? Could it change the mood ? Will the supporting characters be utilized in a different way, or even perhaps have a different voice than when they were written by Gail Simone.

Geez, I hope not! I really like Panda and the Lighter Than Air Society. Boy, if that Stern jerk screws things up, I'll...wait a minute...

Stern wrote the Ray Palmer Atom series from the late 80's. It could be that the issue ties into the Search for Ray Palmer storyline and DC thought it would be cool to have Stern write the character once again.

As a big Roger Stern fan I'm looking forward to seeing him writing for DC again, even if it's only a fill-in issue.

Thank you.

Now, let's get small!;)

-- Uncle Rog

Jack Zodiac
07-17-2007, 03:28 PM
Hey Rog, is your issue gonna' be called The All-New Power of The Atom, like the last one sported the All-New Sword of The Atom title?

Babylon23
07-17-2007, 10:38 PM
Thank you.

Now, let's get small!;)

-- Uncle Rog

You're welcome.

It's great to see you back at DC. Any chance that this will lead to more DC work, perhaps even an ongoing gig? I know I'd buy it.

sabongero
07-18-2007, 07:26 AM
Geez, I hope not! I really like Panda and the Lighter Than Air Society. Boy, if that Stern jerk screws things up, I'll...wait a minute...

-- Uncle Rog

Yahooo! Alright Uncle Roger you are the coolest. You are keeping the status quo on the title. You have my full support. :)

SUPERECWFAN1
07-18-2007, 05:35 PM
Yahooo! Alright Uncle Roger you are the coolest. You are keeping the status quo on the title. You have my full support. :)

Damn and there goes that dream that Stern would come in and have a villain put a bullet thru Choi's head and lead into ATOM INFINITE CRISIS !

Brady
07-18-2007, 06:04 PM
I like Ryan and hope he sticks around. His supporting cast is great, and I love how Ivy Town is portrayed. I'm not opposed to Ray Palmer returning, but there has to be a point to it. Ray was ignored or under utilised for years before he dissapeared in Identity Crisis, so they should only bring him back if they're going to use him.

bdk91939
07-21-2007, 07:32 PM
It's simply amazing to read the posts on this thread. We have intelligent people who have genuinely good hearts. There is not one derogatory comment like "Well why does The Atome have to be chinese?"

It's is just fantastic that there are no ignorant posters on this thread. Unlike in real life, where you will be in a comic store and the store's customers will pick up The All New Atom and comment oh, he's chinese or worse yet they say the five word racist word for chinese.

It is very sad to see and hear those ignorant people. Keep up the positive posting people. You've got class.

sabongero
08-06-2007, 02:03 PM
So far so good. I just wish I knew who is the long term writer for this series after Simone. Or will Simone keep it for a long time. Although it's cool to have Uncle Roger write the series too.

Jolly Mon
08-06-2007, 02:33 PM
What's this about a chinese guy taking over as the Atom????

But seriously, I have thoroughly enjoyed his series since the beginning. It's got a lot of weirdness, humor, and action. I do hope for Ray Palmer to come back, and after one final adventure (Final Crisis?) that he retires to become a supporting character for Ryan/Atom. They have established that they have been long-time friends, so he could serve as friend/senior advisor, and occasionally dust off the old suit for major events.

sabongero
08-08-2007, 08:08 PM
I wonder if Gail will continue to write this series even after Uncle Rog has a brief stint in writing the series. I hope she does.

KEEP RYAN CHOI and HIS SUPPORTING CAST !

Gail Simone
08-08-2007, 09:37 PM
Roger kindly jumped in to help out during a deadline crisis where I simply got too far behind the eight-ball. Since my idea of who RAY is totally comes from Roger Stern and Peyer, this was a really, really happy choice for me, and Roger has been great.

I'm pretty positive his issue is gonna wipe the floor with mine, is the only downside!

Gail

TCJohnson
08-08-2007, 09:45 PM
WIth all due respect to Gail Simone, I am having a bit of a problem getting into this book. Not sure why. But every time I am about to drop it, I will find something in an issue to get my interest and I leave it on my pull list.

Except for this last issue. I promised myself I am not going to get any Countdown tie-ins so I dropped the book. THen some people I respect told me how great the issue is, so the next week when I am picking up my weekly books, I grab the last issue of The Atom.


Yeah, best issue of the series so far. Loved it.

Jack Zodiac
08-08-2007, 09:55 PM
It was Jetpack Hitler, wasn't it?

rwe1138
08-09-2007, 10:17 AM
I'm pretty positive his issue is gonna wipe the floor with mine, is the only downside!

Gail

No offense to Mr. Stern, but I highly doubt that.

Jamie
08-10-2007, 10:07 AM
This series is aces and is one I will be regularly picking up. I haven't had a pull list for about a year, given that I was always months behind when I did have one, but if I did this could be the only title on it.

The Atom was recommended to me by a few people, so I grabbed #13 off the shelf and opened it up to the first page -- Atom and Chronos on a flying pocket watch! Sold! I picked up issue one as a back issue, and I have just read the entire series to date in the span of a week. The All-New Atom is the way a comic book should be -- trippy, funny, dramatic, action-packed, and an all-around joy to read.

I liked Ray, but this is one "legacy hero" that feels right. (Oh, and kudos to Gail on having second-generation Blue Beetle Ted Kord make the comment about legacy heroes. Tee-hee.)

QQQQQQQ! Ryan Choi or Death!

Roger Stern
08-10-2007, 11:16 AM
Roger kindly jumped in to help out during a deadline crisis where I simply got too far behind the eight-ball. Since my idea of who RAY is totally comes from Roger Stern and Peyer, this was a really, really happy choice for me, and Roger has been great.

I'm pretty positive his issue is gonna wipe the floor with mine, is the only downside!

Gail


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Aw, shucks.

I had a great time writing issue #16, but Gail is being 'way too modest here. I just followed her lead.

(Can't wait to see your next issue, G.S.!)

--Uncle Rog

sabongero
09-19-2007, 09:16 PM
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Aw, shucks.

I had a great time writing issue #16, but Gail is being 'way too modest here. I just followed her lead.

(Can't wait to see your next issue, G.S.!)

--Uncle Rog

Hey Uncle Rog, is there any chance of you doing a storyarc on The All New Atom again like a three issue storyarc ?

Spiffy
09-19-2007, 10:22 PM
Hey Uncle Rog, is there any chance of you doing a storyarc on The All New Atom again like a three issue storyarc ?
What I'd LOVE to see?

A collaborative story.

Here's how it could work, and I freely give my permission for Uncle Rog and Gail to steal the idea. Present it to DC and do it...

Have a team up story between old Atom and new Atom, but have them go their separate ways after an initial introduction. Have some kind of quest-based structure where each of them has to do their part to resolve a single situation. Make it a three or four issue arc where Gail writes the Ryan sequences and Rog writes the Ray sequences, with one of them writing the introduction and the other the grand finale (where presumably the two Atoms join up with each other again).

Best of both worlds, baby. And it could set the stage for each of the two characters having their own unique, but interconnected, spots in the DCU.

Adamantium_Avatar
09-20-2007, 07:58 AM
This may not seem Atom-based to start off with but... What is happening with Firestorm?

I see the dual-being aspect of Firestorm returning and Ray Palmer being one aspect of it i.e. supplying the scientific knowledge ala Stein

Of course, I could be very very wrong

sabongero
03-15-2008, 12:30 PM
I haven't picked up All New Atom in a while. How's this series lately ?

Matthew E
03-15-2008, 12:46 PM
Simone ended her run with a bang. Not sure I like where Remender and Oliffe are going with things.

sabongero
04-26-2008, 11:39 PM
Wow! I can't believe this series still hasn't been cancelled by DC. How's the series post-Gail Simone ?

Jack Zodiac
04-27-2008, 01:25 AM
It has been canceled. It hasn't been great, but it was probably decided well before Gail left that the title was getting axed.

estee
04-27-2008, 08:30 AM
I liked it.

It was a quirky title, with crazy characters and wild ideas.

Gail really branched out with her writing on this title.

I won't comment too much on the new writer (who's name escapes me) as he didn't have enough time to make this title his.

Hatut Zeraze
04-27-2008, 10:01 AM
I liked the comic and still dig the character. It was a fun and enjoyable read, which is so much more than I can say for at least half of the superhero comics that haven't been cancelled by DC and Marvel.

rwe1138
04-27-2008, 04:28 PM
I really hope Ryan finds a place in another book and doesn't fade into limbo. He's far too good of a character for that.

Gozwald73
04-28-2008, 01:43 AM
double post and I liked the 2nd one better (teehee)

Gozwald73
04-28-2008, 01:45 AM
I think it's one of DC's smartest written books. Ryan is a likeable character and easy to get behind.

That said, this book doesn't "pop" for me all the time. After reading it, I'm always like "That issue was pretty good", but the comic book is never really that high on my anticipation list in terms of issues that I look forward to.

Bingo. Ditto for me please. Love Simone's work, her stuff is always superb, but the art dragged this down for me and I had to drop it after the first arc.

As a side quesiton, I think I read somewhere that Ryan and Grace (of Outsiders fame) are siblings. Has this been explored in any book? They are so different, would be great to see them interact.

Gozwald73
04-28-2008, 01:45 AM
bah silly interwebs triple post

Gozwald73
04-28-2008, 01:47 AM
omg fourth post! arrgh! *grabs modem and bites it*

jam
04-28-2008, 03:39 AM
As I've said elsewhere ... I'm sorry to see this series end.

Jack Zodiac
04-28-2008, 06:41 AM
As a side quesiton, I think I read somewhere that Ryan and Grace (of Outsiders fame) are siblings. Has this been explored in any book? They are so different, would be great to see them interact.

No, I don't know where you heard that, but it hasn't been brought up in the comic at all. Same last name, yeah, but no familial relation.

rwe1138
04-28-2008, 04:57 PM
As a side quesiton, I think I read somewhere that Ryan and Grace (of Outsiders fame) are siblings. Has this been explored in any book? They are so different, would be great to see them interact.

That's just fan speculation, since both their last names are Choi. It's never actually been said in the comics.

rwe1138
04-28-2008, 04:59 PM
As a side quesiton, I think I read somewhere that Ryan and Grace (of Outsiders fame) are siblings. Has this been explored in any book? They are so different, would be great to see them interact.

AFAIK, that's just fan speculation due to both their last names being Choi. I don't think it's ever been mentioned in the comics.

sabongero
04-28-2008, 07:25 PM
I really hope Ryan finds a place in another book and doesn't fade into limbo. He's far too good of a character for that.

Amen brother. It's great to see him assume the mantle of the Atom. At the same time, it's great to see his alter ego also in play. Plus those professors in the basement are a trip to read.

Babylon23
04-28-2008, 07:35 PM
Same here. I've thoroughly enjoyed this book. Hopefully we'll see Ryan elsewhere in the future.

Ghost Shark
05-01-2008, 01:32 PM
Ray Palmer should go back to the Amazon and let Ryan keep the Atom identity in the 'real' world. SWORD OF THE ATOM was the only time I really enjoyed Ray Palmer as a character.

sabongero
05-01-2008, 05:51 PM
What was the name of the group of professors that played cards in the basement in this series ? I hope they pop up somewhere in the DC Universe as well. They were funny as hell.

Babylon23
05-01-2008, 08:21 PM
What was the name of the group of professors that played cards in the basement in this series ? I hope they pop up somewhere in the DC Universe as well. They were funny as hell.

The Lighter Than Air Society. Great supporting characters that really added something to the title. Also, don't forget Head.

rwe1138
05-02-2008, 11:46 AM
Also, don't forget Head.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rwe1138/atom14-2.jpg

carabas
05-02-2008, 12:56 PM
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o264/rwe1138/atom14-2.jpgPossibly the greatest supporting character since Baytor The Self-Proclaiming.

rwe1138
05-02-2008, 10:01 PM
Possibly the greatest supporting character since Baytor The Self-Proclaiming.

http://www.baytor.com/baytor2.jpg

sabongero
05-04-2008, 01:42 PM
They are. But the Lighter than Air Society takes the cake.

Mr.EZ
05-06-2008, 06:45 AM
I read the first 5 issues and wasn't feeling it. A new hero using an old name is done better in Blue Beetle, as is BB's supporting cast, his location and his enemies.

Ryan just seems bland to me, but then again, so did Ray Palmer, Adam Cray and Al Pratt.

carabas
05-06-2008, 07:16 AM
The first arc was indeed rather dire. It got much better later on.

Mr.EZ
05-06-2008, 07:22 AM
The first arc was indeed rather dire. It got much better later on.

Well, the only reason I checked the book out was because of the recommendations in this thread, so I'll continue onwards and see if it gets better. :smile:

Mr.EZ
05-14-2008, 06:44 AM
All New Atom completely lost me once Gail left. The characters didn't have the same voices as before, so I dropped it.

Usernamessd
05-14-2008, 07:56 AM
All New Atom completely lost me once Gail left. The characters didn't have the same voices as before, so I dropped it.

Same,I don't think remender is/was right for this book.

dan bailey
05-14-2008, 08:48 AM
Well, the only reason I checked the book out was because of the recommendations in this thread, so I'll continue onwards and see if it gets better. :smile:

I second carabas' endorsement. I dropped the title after the first 5 issues or so. Started buying it again circa #13, acquired the previous missed issues for cheap off eBay, & had a blast until ... about ... the time Remember started messing with the characters. (Not that the last couple of ishes haven't been pretty decent in their own right.)

sabongero
05-15-2008, 02:23 AM
All New Atom completely lost me once Gail left. The characters didn't have the same voices as before, so I dropped it.

How did Gail Simone write the characters' "voices". How did they come across ? It's no the same after she left ? How so ?

Pól Rua
05-15-2008, 03:08 AM
I quite like him.
I'm not a big fan of DiDio's DCU, but I think Ryan Choi is a breath of fresh air. I like his whole 'Adventures in Science' schtick and I think he's a neat character.
If Ray Palmer does return, I'd like to see him take on a mentor role, the way Jay Garrick did with Wally West for awhile there.
Ray's said himself he always preferred the life of an academic to that of an adventurer.

Mr.EZ? Al Pratt? Say it ain't so?!
As far as personalities, I've always been a fan of Al as the 'mean scrappy little guy'. Kinda like Cagney.

Jack Zodiac
05-15-2008, 10:30 AM
How did Gail Simone write the characters' "voices". How did they come across ? It's no the same after she left ? How so ?

When Gail wrote Ryan Choi, he was a goofy, happy guy. The minute Rick's run started, he became this darkened, frustrated character without any reason. It was a terrible transition. And in this last issue, he completely destroyed Panda by making him some muscular badass trapped in a loveable fatass' body.

I was gonna give the book a chance after the last issue, but this week's issue was just awful. I'm definitely dropping it and just crossing my fingers and hoping they don't needlessly kill him off.

Mr.EZ
05-15-2008, 10:37 AM
How did Gail Simone write the characters' "voices". How did they come across ? It's no the same after she left ? How so ?

I'd grown used to the "beat" of Gail's phrasing and wordplay. Even Head, who speaks
infrequently, doesn't read as being the same character.

carabas
05-15-2008, 12:31 PM
What they said.

And in this last issue, he completely destroyed Panda by making him some muscular badass trapped in a loveable fatass' body.
He frelling what? Sorry to see that my instincts were correct, when I dropped the book 2/3ths through Remender's first issue.

Jack Zodiac
05-15-2008, 12:34 PM
I gave him the benefit of the doubt, that picking up after such a strong run like Gail's would've been impossible to compare. And the second issue was much better than his first, it had some zany Ivy Town antics and some humor from Ryan, but this last issue was garbage. And then, yeah, Panda turns into some bearded, muscular champion in a time-elapsed alternate dimension. Which isn't to say he doesn't have the strength of character to lead and survive, but seeing a short, chubby nerd turn into a tall, fit man is pretty !@#$ing lame.

sabongero
07-04-2008, 12:59 PM
The final issue #25 is coming out soon. Do you guys think DC is going to kill off this new Atom, or worse, utilized by writers in a negative way? Is the main drawback for this character is because he's chinese ? Could the new Atom be more accepted by readers if he was white, or even black ?

rwe1138
07-04-2008, 02:17 PM
Do you guys think DC is going to kill off this new Atom, or worse, utilized by writers in a negative way?

No, I have a feeling the higher-ups in DC are fans of Ryan Choi.

Lupek
07-04-2008, 06:33 PM
I'm not knocking the new Atom or his fans but I want Ray Palmer to return as the Atom as soon as possible.

varsity_club
07-14-2008, 12:18 PM
It's too bad Ryan Choi's title got axed. It was a pretty cool run while it lasted. It probably wouldn't have taken a big turn in the direction of the series if Simone stayed on the title or even Roger Stern.

The question here is has Ryan Choi been damaged as a character by the last writer...maybe or maybe not. Who know's when this Atom will pop up again in the DC Universe. Only time will tell.

sabongero
02-06-2009, 12:42 AM
I'm just curious, has Ryan Choi as the All new Atom appeared in the DC Universe after his series got cancelled ?

Spiffy
02-06-2009, 12:50 AM
I'm just curious, has Ryan Choi as the All new Atom appeared in the DC Universe after his series got cancelled ?
Yes, he has. Although its worth noting that Ray Palmer has also appeared. It hasn't been one of them or the other.

carabas
02-06-2009, 02:29 AM
I'm just curious, has Ryan Choi as the All new Atom appeared in the DC Universe after his series got cancelled ?He was in Final Crisis.

sabongero
02-06-2009, 10:08 PM
It's too bad the Atom character is underutilized now. Perhaps if he was made into a member of the JLoA. There might be a chance that the Atom can gain momentum and become a solid B-Lister.