*SPOILER* Green Lantern 21 *SPOILERS*

[Grim Zorro]

After reading the Sinestro Corps Special, I've been eagerly awaiting the next issue of Green Lantern to see what further developments occur in the war and most of all the reactions of the Guardians and involvement of the big guns of the SC. I picked up the comic as soon as I could today, and although it was good, I was a little dissapointed.


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Issue #21 starts off with Hal and the rest of the Lanterns attempting to repel the SC attack on Oa, but getting their asses handed to them in the process. Finally, the attack on Oa stops and the Lanterns regroup, but the number of Lanterns being slain continues to mount and the last figure shown is 59 as GLs across the universe continue to be hunted and killed.

Hal attempts to help a fellow Lantern, but the "Lost Lanterns" block him as they seem to still hold a grudge against him. THis is the part that I was kinda dissapointed in. A major attack on Oa was just executed and GLs are laying dead everywhere, and this group is still acting like a bunch of little kids. It just seemed unnecessary.

The Guardians are continuing to argue about the Blackest Night Prophecy and and finally a Guardian burns the page out of the book of Oa because he says the prophecy did the forbidden and caused them fear. There are a few panels showing the death of several GLs at the hands of the SC, and then Ganthet and Sayd talk to Hal and attempt to recruit him as the leader of the Corps so that it might have a chance. Hal refuses though for now and wants to go to Qward to find Kyle.

When hal, John, and Guy attempt to charge their rings though, Parallax springs forth and captures Hal while simmulating his greatest fear for him. Para then taunts Hal and the final panel shows Para infront of Hal, who's considerably shaken, with hundreds of the Sinestro Corps behind him.

As I said, this issue is pretty good, but I was mainly dissapointed in how the Guardians handled the whole situation and most of all because none of the big guns really got involved. I was expected much more of Prime, Cyborg, and Sinestro.

One cool thing that was revealed was the fact that the SC members can use Manhunters to charge their rings.

[Sean Walsh]

Well, it is only Part 1 of the storyline (or 2 - notice they couldn't quite agree on that in this ish?), so having them on the sideline is fine; besides, one of them is in action in the next GLCorps.

[Kyle_Ion]

After reading the Sinestro Corps Special, I've been eagerly awaiting the next issue of Green Lantern to see what further developments occur in the war and most of all the reactions of the Guardians and involvement of the big guns of the SC. I picked up the comic as soon as I could today, and although it was good, I was a little dissapointed.


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Issue #21 starts off with Hal and the rest of the Lanterns attempting to repel the SC attack on Oa, but getting their asses handed to them in the process. Finally, the attack on Oa stops and the Lanterns regroup, but the number of Lanterns being slain continues to mount and the last figure shown is 59 as GLs across the universe continue to be hunted and killed.

Hal attempts to help a fellow Lantern, but the "Lost Lanterns" block him as they seem to still hold a grudge against him. THis is the part that I was kinda dissapointed in. A major attack on Oa was just executed and GLs are laying dead everywhere, and this group is still acting like a bunch of little kids. It just seemed unnecessary.

The Guardians are continuing to argue about the Blackest Night Prophecy and and finally a Guardian burns the page out of the book of Oa because he says the prophecy did the forbidden and caused them fear. There are a few panels showing the death of several GLs at the hands of the SC, and then Ganthet and Sayd talk to Hal and attempt to recruit him as the leader of the Corps so that it might have a chance. Hal refuses though for now and wants to go to Qward to find Kyle.

When hal, John, and Guy attempt to charge their rings though, Parallax springs forth and captures Hal while simmulating his greatest fear for him. Para then taunts Hal and the final panel shows Para infront of Hal, who's considerably shaken, with hundreds of the Sinestro Corps behind him.

As I said, this issue is pretty good, but I was mainly dissapointed in how the Guardians handled the whole situation and most of all because none of the big guns really got involved. I was expected much more of Prime, Cyborg, and Sinestro.

One cool thing that was revealed was the fact that the SC members can use Manhunters to charge their rings.



I hope Hal or another Green Lantern beats some sense into the Lost Lanterns. I also hope Hal can save Kyle and return him to being a green lantern.

[DaeJi]

I'm surprize on how badly the Latherns were getting beat. You'd think it would be a more even fight.

[Kyle_Ion]

or if a green lantern can't or wont teach the lost lanterns a lesson then I vote for one of the guardians, preferable ganthet to teach the lost lanterns a lesson.

[Sean Walsh]

I'm surprize on how badly the Latherns were getting beat. You'd think it would be a more even fight.

1) The element of surprise

2) Yellow

3) 1 and 2 a few more times :p

[drwho]

Nice to see some action, but this felt like a lot of just retread of what went on in the special. Still it has me buying the gL books.

[Jack Zodiac]

Plus, they were poaching newbies minutes after they got their rings. This whole campaign is about fear, and they've already won. The Lanterns are split up, the humans are trapped by Parallax, and the space sectors are easy pickings for Sin and his crew now. This crossover's gonna' be crazy.

[Kyle_Ion]

1) The element of surprise

2) Yellow

3) 1 and 2 a few more times :p

I can understand yellow affecting the new recruits, but yellow shouldn't affect the veterans. Why I'm saying yellow shouldn't affect veterans is because Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart cut open a yellow space ship with green beams from the power ring like it was nothing.

[Magneto_X]

I don't see a problem with how the Lost lanterns are acting. They probably think Hal is working for the SC undercover.

[We R. Venom]

This book was a great read. Lots of history. Very good art. GLC should be pretty good when it comes out. So will the next GL issue. Kyle, or Parralax rather is interesting. Glad this issue cleared MANY things up for me. Great job!

[Deadpooligan]

Great issue. Reis's art is back, and it's sleek as ever.

I felt a lot of this issue was all about the whole "Hal's continuing redemption", but more that is was super decompressed. How many issues are they spreading the war out to?

Plus, they were poaching newbies minutes after they got their rings. This whole campaign is about fear, and they've already won. The Lanterns are split up, the humans are trapped by Parallax, and the space sectors are easy pickings for Sin and his crew now. This crossover's gonna' be crazy.

That statement makes me imagine Bedovian as a spawn camper. lol.

I can understand yellow affecting the new recruits, but yellow shouldn't affect the veterans. Why I'm saying yellow shouldn't affect veterans is because Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart cut open a yellow space ship with green beams from the power ring like it was nothing.

They cut it open with exposition too. "Face the fear... and overcome it!"

[Big Red Spider]

Absolutly amazing. I love it. I can't wait for Corps and I can't wait for GL #22.

[Kyle_Ion]

Great issue. Reis's art is back, and it's sleek as ever.

I felt a lot of this issue was all about the whole "Hal's continuing redemption", but more that is was super decompressed. How many issues are they spreading the war out to?



That statement makes me imagine Bedovian as a spawn camper. lol.



They cut it open with exposition too. "Face the fear... and overcome it!"

you are correct, I reread the issue, and they were like feel fear now overcome it.

[Sabrinaset]

I don't see a problem with how the Lost lanterns are acting. They probably think Hal is working for the SC undercover.

It doesn't explain why they're treating GUY with contempt though. He made a pretty good point to the Lost, and it was stated in GLC ... I think during the Green Lantern Corpse" storyline ... that the Corps, even the veterans, look up to Guy, he IS an Honor Lantern, and IIRC, during "Revenge of the Green Lanterns" the Lost Lanterns not only knew Guy but gladly rescued him from the giant Willhunter, and followed his orders to evac.

[Deadpooligan]

It doesn't explain why they're treating GUY with contempt though. He made a pretty good point to the Lost, and it was stated in GLC ... I think during the Green Lantern Corpse" storyline ... that the Corps, even the veterans, look up to Guy, he IS an Honor Lantern, and IIRC, during "Revenge of the Green Lanterns" the Lost Lanterns not only knew Guy but gladly rescued him from the giant Willhunter, and followed his orders to evac.

Guy was ready to throw down with them when they started frigging with Hal in the lunchroom. It's the antithesis of "the enemy of my enemy". Guy's friends with Hal, and is in turn disrespected by the other Lanterns because of it. Kilowog makes a point to get on their case about it.

...or wait... am I thinking of the veteran lanterns who didn't get killed earlier in the series?

[CMBMOOL]

I fear that this battle for the GLC way in the universe to prevail is growing very slim with the amount of Sinestro corps members. :p

[Sabrinaset]

Guy was ready to throw down with them when they started frigging with Hal in the lunchroom. It's the antithesis of "the enemy of my enemy". Guy's friends with Hal, and is in turn disrespected by the other Lanterns because of it. Kilowog makes a point to get on their case about it.

...or wait... am I thinking of the veteran lanterns who didn't get killed earlier in the series?

Actually, I thought you were mentioning the scene in part one of "Revenge of the Green Lanterns" where Guy DID get into a fight with some GL's ... but this was before they rescued the Lost. I think it would have been more in character for the Lost to respectfully disagree with Guy but not call him names, based on what we hear about Guy from other sources. Guy is an Honor Lantern, I'd think right there Guy could start handing out Prime Duty (or the equivelent, now that there isn't any anymore) for that disrespect. Well, not at the moment, but after the crisis is over...

[NMoline]

I have a feeling this is going to end with in fighting between the axis powers. This can already be seen with SBP and Sinestro. I hope it doesn't end like that but it may.

[Deadpooligan]

Actually, I thought you were mentioning the scene in part one of "Revenge of the Green Lanterns" where Guy DID get into a fight with some GL's ... but this was before they rescued the Lost. I think it would have been more in character for the Lost to respectfully disagree with Guy but not call him names, based on what we hear about Guy from other sources. Guy is an Honor Lantern, I'd think right there Guy could start handing out Prime Duty (or the equivelent, now that there isn't any anymore) for that disrespect. Well, not at the moment, but after the crisis is over...

I think "Honor Guard" is sort of like a field leader than anything. Guy's around to help newer Lanterns in need or organize a team against a larger threat.

And I'm pretty confident that the tiers in the GL Corps go Guarian > Salakk > Ion > Guy > Kilowog > Veteran Lanterns > Rookies.

I think only Salakk and up could assign Prime Duty anyway.

[UniqueFrequency]

what's the reading order for this?

Sinestro Corps
GL #21
then?

[KevinTBrown]

what's the reading order for this?

Sinestro Corps
GL #21
then?

GLC #14
GL #22
etc.

[UniqueFrequency]

GLC #14
GL #22
etc.

just 4 issues?

[Raker616]

I can understand yellow affecting the new recruits, but yellow shouldn't affect the veterans. Why I'm saying yellow shouldn't affect veterans is because Hal Jordan and Jon Stewart cut open a yellow space ship with green beams from the power ring like it was nothing.

Well most GL's are rookies aside from The 4 earth GL's, The Lost Lanterns, and a handfull of others like Salaak and Killowog most are new members. Anyways great stuff loved the part where Ganthet tells Hal that he is the one that has to lead the GLC and man are the Sin Corps vicious they're slaughtering GL's left and right. Can't wait for GLC #14 and Sinestro unleashing his evil on the GLC and getting some payback on the Guardians hopefully because they're mostly idiots.

[SKETCHSANCHEZ]

I think "Honor Guard" is sort of like a field leader than anything. Guy's around to help newer Lanterns in need or organize a team against a larger threat.




I honestly think "honor guard" was just a way to keep Guy busy and out of Salaaks hair. No one else is on the honor guard, and Salaak keeps sending him out on missions he doesnt really need to be there for (The city who hates GL's being an example) and he was always denying him his shore leave.

I believe Jack Zodiac pointed this out too.

[Kyle_Ion]

so then why does the guardians recognize Guys rank?

[KevinTBrown]

just 4 issues?

*sigh*

Notice the "etc."....?

IIRC, it's a 10-issue storyline.

I'll leave it for you to do the "math". :)

[Cayman]

It was disappointing in comparison to the one-shot. It felt like it was treading water a bit. Great art though.

[Alex L]

It doesn't explain why they're treating GUY with contempt though. He made a pretty good point to the Lost, and it was stated in GLC ... I think during the Green Lantern Corpse" storyline ... that the Corps, even the veterans, look up to Guy, he IS an Honor Lantern, and IIRC, during "Revenge of the Green Lanterns" the Lost Lanterns not only knew Guy but gladly rescued him from the giant Willhunter, and followed his orders to evac.

All us humans are the same.

That, and Guy is now content to be Hal's boy.

[Grim Zorro]

*sigh*

Notice the "etc."....?

IIRC, it's a 10-issue storyline.

I'll leave it for you to do the "math". :)


Aren't there also 5 other one-shots too? I'm not really sure about hat but I heard it somewhere. But yeah, there should be 5 from GLC and 5 issues from GL used for the Sinestro Corps and that's pretty decent.

It was disappointing in comparison to the one-shot. It felt like it was treading water a bit. Great art though.

My thoughts exactly, though it's very hard to improve from the one-shot becasue it was so amazing and unexpected. Now that a lot of the spoilers have been let out, it feels kinda dissapointing when you read another issue.

While I know that the Sinestro Corps is taking center stage since it contains so many big guns (perhaps the most powerful villian in DCU history), but I've been wondering if and when the Empire of Tears and the other Organizations will get involved. I'm pretty pumped to see them too, especailly the Empire of Tears cause I enjoy the cool look of the creatures adn I want to see how the Guardians deal with them since even they couldn't destroy them. Anybody else thinkin bout this?

[CaptainCanada]

While I know that the Sinestro Corps is taking center stage since it contains so many big guns (perhaps the most powerful villian in DCU history), but I've been wondering if and when the Empire of Tears and the other Organizations will get involved. I'm pretty pumped to see them too, especailly the Empire of Tears cause I enjoy the cool look of the creatures adn I want to see how the Guardians deal with them since even they couldn't destroy them. Anybody else thinkin bout this?
I don't think we're going to see any of that. Johns is really only using the idea of the prophecy from "Tyger, Tyger", not the text itself; the actual prophesies are radically different (not to mention much longer, since in the new version it fills up a whole chapter in the Book of Oa (with illustrations), when in the original story it was just a few pages' worth of narrative captions), with mentions of things like "52." There are already so many villains involved that dealing with the current ones will be challenge enough (for both the writers and the heroes), and adding even more would add more clutter.

[Brandon Hex]

Guardians and Lost Lanterns.

Grudges and Politics go hand in hand.

Just like with current events, The GL's have a code to follow. I think the Lost Lanterns are just playing their part in the politics of it and using their past grudge against Hal to have some type of power or say.

Again, a lot like current events in real world. Very correct in my opinion for John's to include every aspect in his comics, even if some would rather not see it in their make believe world.

Why Lost Lanterns.... because they can. Simple as that.

[Jack Zodiac]

I don't think we're going to see any of that. Johns is really only using the idea of the prophecy from "Tyger, Tyger", not the text itself; the actual prophesies are radically different (not to mention much longer, since in the new version it fills up a whole chapter in the Book of Oa (with illustrations), when in the original story it was just a few pages' worth of narrative captions), with mentions of things like "52." There are already so many villains involved that dealing with the current ones will be challenge enough (for both the writers and the heroes), and adding even more would add more clutter.

Well, no, in Green Lantern Corps, Gibbons had the Guardians reciting the prophecy of the Empire of Tears, as told to Abin Sur years before, word for word, even elaborating on the Empire of Tears itself and giving them a sick space-Lovecraftian tone to them. I think it's pretty plausible that we'd see them either sometime during this, or after all is said and done.

[Magneto_X]

just 4 issues?

For this arc.

The Sinestro Corps will be used over the years as a threat to the DCU itself if I'm understanding Johns' correctly.

This leads into the beginning of the Final Crisis.

[UniqueFrequency]

For this arc.

The Sinestro Corps will be used over the years as a threat to the DCU itself if I'm understanding Johns' correctly.

This leads into the beginning of the Final Crisis.

thanks. much more helpful than the sarcastic dude.

just trying to decide if i should shell out $$$ for 4 issues or 10 issues or whatever.

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Something tells me this is gonna end with Hal becoming the new Ion to defeat the Parallax-infected Kyle. Would bring everything Full Circle, wouldn't it?

[Kyle_Ion]

I have a bad feeling that there going to kill off kyle with Hal, and I'm sure the fans of Hal will be estatic if that happens. I'm going to be upset if they have Hal kill Kyle, Hal and Kyle are my favorite green lanterns and I would like to see Kyle have his own series.


Just Let Them Express Themselves!!

[Raker616]

I'm a Hal fan and while I only tolerate Kyle I don't want him to get killed off, there are plenty more GL's that can bite the dust during this war.

[stealthwise]

Something tells me this is gonna end with Hal becoming the new Ion to defeat the Parallax-infected Kyle. Would bring everything Full Circle, wouldn't it?

It would, but I'd rather see John Stewart take on that role, given that they have nothing for him to do.

[Kyle_Ion]

I'm a Hal fan and while I only tolerate Kyle I don't want him to get killed off, there are plenty more GL's that can bite the dust during this war.

Hal is growing on me, but in my mind Hal will never be as great as Kyle. As you can see by my name I prefer Kyle.



Just Let Them Express Themselves!!

[Taskmaster]

It would, but I'd rather see John Stewart take on that role, given that they have nothing for him to do.

Actually John becomming Ion would tie in with his becoming a Guardian type being back in Mosiac, that would be pretty darn cool

[jasiem]

Am I the only one confused about why Parallax (Kyle) is dressed in green and his power is green not yellow. I understand that when Hal was Parallax originally everyone assumed it was part of the green lantern power, but in the Rebirth series, once Parallax was revealed all of his power was yellow (even when he took over Ganthet). Since there's no hiding the fact that it is Parallax in Kyle, why are his creations green instead of yellow? It just makes me wonder if there's a reason behind this (some Ion power in him, he's just infiltrating, or something else).

[Jack Zodiac]

A big "!@#$ you" to the Guardians?

[zhivago]

I liked the conversation between Hal and Ganthet since the topic of the conversation were the first Hal Jordan issues of the previous series and his role in recruiting and reorganizing the Corps and it showed that at least someone remembers that.

[Erebus]

Dang. When I turned to the last page, I was literally screaming, "Its OVER? It CAN'T BE OVER! NOT NOW!"

[Magneto_X]

I have a bad feeling that there going to kill off kyle with Hal, and I'm sure the fans of Hal will be estatic if that happens. I'm going to be upset if they have Hal kill Kyle, Hal and Kyle are my favorite green lanterns and I would like to see Kyle have his own series.


I hope they don't do that.

Hal & Kyle can exist together in peace in the DCU.

What's Johns' opinion of Kyle?

[BeastieRunner]

I was under the impression that Sinestro used Parallax to corrupt Kyle and the Ion persona. So the Kyle Parallax was amped from Kyle's willpower, imagination, and the Ion power set. That was my understanding of it. I should reread it I guess because it sounds like I am confused. :confused:

Great issue though and can't wait for more Corps vs Corps smackdowns! As long as they don't kill Kyle . . .

EDIT: I went back and looked. It appears that Kylellax doesn't use a ring.

[OzBat!]

And Sinestro "extracted" the ion entity (where did he get enough power to be able to do that??) so "Kylellax" (cute!) isn't using that.

[steve2275]

For this arc.

The Sinestro Corps will be used over the years as a threat to the DCU itself if I'm understanding Johns' correctly.

This leads into the beginning of the Final Crisis.
:D intresting :D

[jasiem]

So if the Ion Entity was removed....and Kyle doesn't have a GL ring, shouldn't the Kyle just be running off Parallax, and thus have yellow creations. It doesn't make sense for Parallax to be making Green creations.

[disco stu]

So if the Ion Entity was removed....and Kyle doesn't have a GL ring, shouldn't the Kyle just be running off Parallax, and thus have yellow creations. It doesn't make sense for Parallax to be making Green creations.

I have a feeling that this is going to lead to the power being inside kyle all along self discovery etc etc and ultimatly kyle getting his whop on with paralax and excepting his place as uber power.

[Desaad]

So if the Ion Entity was removed....and Kyle doesn't have a GL ring, shouldn't the Kyle just be running off Parallax, and thus have yellow creations. It doesn't make sense for Parallax to be making Green creations.

Parallax proved capable of allowing constructs of all color. Recall, it was responsible for the 'construct' of Sinestro attacking and subsequently being killed by Hal Jordan.

No reason it couldn't do green as easily as yellow.

[BeastieRunner]

And Sinestro "extracted" the ion entity (where did he get enough power to be able to do that??) so "Kylellax" (cute!) isn't using that.

Kyle was weak from what happened to his mother and from the debasing Sinestro did, so I can see Ion being yanked from him pretty easily after that. But where did the Ion entity go?

Parallax proved capable of allowing constructs of all color. Recall, it was responsible for the 'construct' of Sinestro attacking and subsequently being killed by Hal Jordan.

No reason it couldn't do green as easily as yellow.

Yeah, that is correct.

This war arc has been fun for rereading and researching.

[Alex L]

Kyle was weak from what happened to his mother and from the debasing Sinestro did, so I can see Ion being yanked from him pretty easily after that. But where did the Ion entity go?

Sinestro caged it.

What happened to that afterwards is currently unknown, but I think it's just sitting in its cage.

The vibe I got is that the Ion entity can't do anything on its own -- it's the avatar of willpower, but it can only boost the willpower of a sentient being -- on its own, it can't do much.

[BeastieRunner]

Sinestro caged it.


Man I got so excited that issue I really didn't pay attention to the artwork as well as I should have. :p

[mgs]

The Guardians are continuing to argue about the Blackest Night Prophecy and and finally a Guardian burns the page out of the book of Oa because he says the prophecy did the forbidden and caused them fear.

I don't know if this has been brought up before, but this whole part with the OA'ans seemed like what happened in our world's Islamic religion and the whole thing about Muhammad and the Satanic Verses. I'm not sure if that's where they got the idea for this whole thing, but it's eerily familiar.

[Erebus]

So if the Ion Entity was removed....and Kyle doesn't have a GL ring, shouldn't the Kyle just be running off Parallax, and thus have yellow creations. It doesn't make sense for Parallax to be making Green creations.

Geoff said the reason Parallax is green is because he's giving a big FU to the Corps.

[Kyle_Ion]

Geoff said the reason Parallax is green is because he's giving a big FU to the Corps.

but I wonder something though, what will the recruits think of the Torch Bearer which of course is kyle (yes I know, I'm stating the obvious) after this incident?

[Jack Zodiac]

They don't seem to like any of the "pink ape" Lanterns. Not a whole lot of people seemed to appreciate him even before he became Parallax. Plus, while he was Ion, he had a crazy psycho like Nero posing as him, going around the universe, wrecking up the place. If he can shake off Parallax, I think he'll be no worse for wear if he can become Ion again.

[Tazirai]

I'm surprize on how badly the Latherns were getting beat. You'd think it would be a more even fight.


Lanterns ring's can't kill. it's hardwired into the ring. SO that leaves alot of openings for potential foes. But I agree that the GL corps were pretty much red shirts... err green shirts rather.

[MRGRAY]

Was it the Lead Paint Chips i was snaking on, or i did i See a figure in the shadows that resembled SuperBoy Prime in GL #21??

[Jack Zodiac]

No lead chips, pal. Probably not, anyway. Superboy Prime's running with Sinestro and crew, now.

[marshal99]

Was it the Lead Paint Chips i was snaking on, or i did i See a figure in the shadows that resembled SuperBoy Prime in GL #21??

Guess you didn't read the sinestro corps one shot , Superboy Prime , Cyborg superman & the biggie , their master Anti-Monitor is all with the Sinestro corps now.

[MRGRAY]

When did the oneshot come out?

[Big Red Spider]

It was about a two weeks before Green Lantern #21

[jadrax]

The one shot has been reprinted, (Twice) and I would recommend getting a copy, it was a fantastic issue.

[Pink Bat Max]

The one shot has been reprinted, (Twice) and I would recommend getting a copy, it was a fantastic issue.

I concur. It's the best individual comic that has come out so far this year, IMHO

[Jack Zodiac]

You need to read some All-Star Superman and The Spirit then, my friend!

[pendragon]

You need to read some All-Star Superman and The Spirit then, my friend!

I agree with on The Spirit, but All-Star Superman...meh

[paulski]

I concur. It's the best individual comic that has come out so far this year, IMHO

And I'll third that. Best thing I've read so far this year. :)

[Erebus]

Did anyone else notice that on the page where the rings were reporting the body count, there was a dead alien lying in the fron which looked suspiciously like a Skrull?

[MRGRAY]

picked up that one-shot, wow that was an awsome read and explains somany qusetions i had, if that ain't good enough it was a first print, YEAH