View Full Version : My 90s Cartoon Villain Hall Of Fame
ViciousX
07-07-2007, 12:36 PM
http://gargoyles.dracandros.com/w/images/6/6b/Xanatos3.JPG
Screw the 80's, welcome to the 90's. Villains were allowed to be multi-dimensional and, GASP, even win. And, when it comes to a multi-dimensional villain with a winning streak, none top David Xanatos.
Xanatos is extremely rich, extremely powerful, extremely arrogant. But more than that, he's extremely smart. You may hate him, but you'd be foolish not to respect him... in extreme amounts. Manhattan is his city, he owns it. He also rarely ever loses. Oh, it might seem like he loses the surface victory, but he always benefits with a much more subtle victory... and usually increases his power base along the way. And if he does lose, he doesn't throw a tantrum, he learns from his mistakes and moves on to the next plan... he will always role with the punches, for every Plan A, there is a Plan B, a Plan C and a Plan D.
Unlike many other cartoon villains, he does not employ buffoons. All his employees are extremely competent, from his indespensible assistant, Owen Burnett, to his geneticist, Dr. Sevarius, right on down to Bruno, the head of his corporate guard. His wife, Fox, is his equal in all aspects. Just as ruthless and Machiavellian as he is.
Throughout it all, he never loses his cool, does not allow himself to be distracted by such petty desires as revenge, and demonstrates more so than most other villains that you don't mess with him unless you want to be completely humiliated... he is a human trickster.
Plus... a castle on top of a skyscraper in midtown Manhattan. Name a cooler headquarters than that.
Chiasm
07-07-2007, 01:04 PM
Sorry but Mojo Jojo rules you all. :D
http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/01820/images/mojo.gif
ViciousX
07-07-2007, 01:08 PM
Sorry but Mojo Jojo rules you all. :D
Unfortunatly, I've never seen an episode of the Powerpuff Girls, but you can add him to the list if you want
drwho
07-07-2007, 01:14 PM
kind of sad but i cant think of many 90s cartoons that were original with villains.
lonewolf23k
07-07-2007, 01:24 PM
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/d/d2/180px-Csmegatronii3.jpg
Sorry G1 Megs fans, but as far as this transfan's concerned, Beast Wars Megatron is a better villain then the original one was. He was cunning, manipulative, a Machavellian plotter combined with a skilled battlefield commander. He ran schemes within schemes, taking calculated risks and even tampering with the fabric of time and space to achieve his goals of Predacon victory over the Maximals. And he had a wicked sense of dark humor as well.
ViciousX
07-07-2007, 01:38 PM
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/d/d2/180px-Csmegatronii3.jpg
Sorry G1 Megs fans, but as far as this transfan's concerned, Beast Wars Megatron is a better villain then the original one was. He was cunning, manipulative, a Machavellian plotter combined with a skilled battlefield commander. He ran schemes within schemes, taking calculated risks and even tampering with the fabric of time and space to achieve his goals of Predacon victory over the Maximals. And he had a wicked sense of dark humor as well.
He was next on my list:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/Bwmegs.jpg
What he lacked in numbers, he more than made up in sheer cunning.
The Batman
07-07-2007, 01:46 PM
Would Dinobot from Beast Wars count as a villian? I always liked him.
ViciousX
07-07-2007, 01:54 PM
Would Dinobot from Beast Wars count as a villian? I always liked him.
No, he was probably the biggest hero on the show. A flawed hero, but a hero nonetheless.
The Batman
07-07-2007, 02:04 PM
Yeah, you're right. :(
I just want to put Dinobot on a list. He's awesome.
Beast Wars Megatron was great. Probably the best version of Megatron that's ever been done as he was, you know, competent.
Toku King
07-07-2007, 02:50 PM
Thanks for the nod. :rolleyes:
Wenatchee the Hatchet
07-07-2007, 03:20 PM
I'll second votes for Mojo Jojo and Beast Wars Megatron, two of my favorite villains. These other two guys weren't original to the 1990s but Joker and Lex Luthor got such great realizations in those cartoons that carried over into Justice League I'd say that even if they weren't really original creations they are two of the best-realized cartoon villains from the 1990s.
I don't think of Lady Eboshi as a villain in the strictest sense of the term but I'll throw in a Miyazaki character, too. She was a 1990s character, too, so I think she fits.
Seems to me the 1990s were less about developing original character ideas that finding new and interesting ways of expanding on pre-existing characters. The lack of originality was made up for in a lot of cases by an increase in sophistication.
Are we just sticking with American TV cartoons. Because if we're not limiting the field Gendo Ikari seems like a shoe-in for a 1990s villain, at least in my book.
Wenatchee the Hatchet
07-07-2007, 03:24 PM
I always liked Dinobot because instead of doing what I expected them to do and have him be the Starscream equivalent they had him do what I wouldn't have expected from a G1 character, defect. I was glad he didn't turn into a rerun of Starscream and that's why he and Megatron are the two characters that make Beast Wars unique. An actually smart Megatron and an actually flawed and ambivalent hero (who figures out Megatron's plan before Primal does) made that show several steps above the original cartoon.
OverMaster
07-07-2007, 03:25 PM
http://www.cartonionline.com/gif/CARTOON/Darkwing_Duck/Negaduck.jpg
http://cartoonvillains.8m.com/images/maleimages/negaduck1.jpg
Negaduck rules all your souls.
ViciousX
07-07-2007, 04:03 PM
Back to "Gargoyles"...
http://gargoyles.dracandros.com/w/images/b/b3/Demona2.JPG
Demona is a personal favorite of mine. Hardcore, she was allowed an actual bodycount, and her story is just fascinating. She is the closest thing to a tragic Shakespearan villain to appear in American animation. Very Lady Macbeth, ironically enough.
At first glance, she seems like the stereotypical evil bitch, but that's just at first glance. Take a closer look, and she has pathos. She has some redeeming points, she just fucks up. She genuinly loves her daughter, and the tragedy is, she might sacrifise a chance to really get close to her because she can't accept responsibility for her own mistakes and stop blaming her sins on everyone else.
But hey, how many strong female villains are there? I can't think of any in the 80s who aren't minions... coughcoughtheBaronesscough
Thorlief
07-07-2007, 04:32 PM
http://physihan.hp.infoseek.co.jp/hokuto/kaiou.jpg
Kaiou
he slaughters his own sister just to manipulate her fiancee against Kenshiro. Nice guy isnt he
I stretched it a bit since it's from 1989, but the '90 lacked good villains tho
Armless Penguin
07-07-2007, 04:50 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/63/ReBoot_Megabyte.jpg/800px-ReBoot_Megabyte.jpg
Megabyte can count, right? Even if he's technically CG, ^_^
Magneto_X
07-07-2007, 04:57 PM
I hope someone mentions Apocalypse from X-men.
Venom & Kingpin from Fox's Spiderman cartoon were great, too.
ViciousX
07-07-2007, 05:02 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/Phaeton_exosquad.jpg
Phaeton is perhaps the closest thing to an animated Hitler ever seen in the realm of animation. He didn't just have a body count, he had genocide on his resume. He conquers Venus, Earth and Mars, sets up the Neosapian Order, speeches and postures about destiny, and brutally oppresses, enslaves and slaughters humans to do it... and that was before he developed Automutation Syndrome and went crazy. Like Hitler, his best generals turned on him, only to be killed and replaced.
shades of eternity
07-07-2007, 05:12 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/63/ReBoot_Megabyte.jpg/800px-ReBoot_Megabyte.jpg
Megabyte can count, right? Even if he's technically CG, ^_^
well duh
nobody had more style while being evil.
honestly mainframe entertainment had awesome characters (heroes and villans)
Kevin M.
07-08-2007, 12:46 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Luthor1.jpg[
I know Lex Luthor has been around for many years. But I'm using the one from the Superman animated series that ran in the mid-nineties. He was one of the best cartoon villains that I remember.
ViciousX
07-08-2007, 08:00 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Luthor1.jpg
Luthor was good. While he was certainly no David Xanatos, he was still a very effective villain. Clancy Brown did a great job with his vocals. My one problem and why I say he was no Xanatos is that the series spent a lot of time telling us he was a genius without actually showing us he's a genius. Xanatos on the other hand, we were shown he was a Machiavellian genius from the get-go.
ViciousX
07-08-2007, 10:03 AM
Last one from "Gargoyles"
http://gargoyles.dracandros.com/w/images/c/ca/Thailog.jpg
Thailog, he only had three episodes out of a sixty-five episode series under his belt, but he made quite an impression. Usually when evil clones are introduced, the story is the same. The clone tries to take the place of the hero, and it's an episode about identity. Not in this series, from the get-go, Thailog defied stereotype... hell, they gave him a different coloration (due to the accelerated growth process) so they couldn't do a story like that.
Throughout the series, Thailog outsmarted EVERYONE. The heroes. Macbeth, Sevarius, Demona, he even outsmarted the grand puppet master himself, David Xanatos. He became a great villain and character in his own right, that him being Goliath's clone is the least important aspect of his character. He's as powerful as Goliath, as amoral as Sevarius, and even more cunning and intelligent than Xanatos.
I'm glad, that he's recently returned in comic book form, eleven years after his last television appearance, to show what he can do.
Nefarius
07-08-2007, 11:28 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/2carte.jpg
Kevin M.
07-08-2007, 11:32 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/2carte.jpg
One of the best incarnations of The Joker that ever existed. Crazy, funny, and brilliantly voiced by Mark Hamil. How could I have forgotten him?
ViciousX
07-08-2007, 11:50 AM
One of the best incarnations of The Joker that ever existed. Crazy, funny, and brilliantly voiced by Mark Hamil. How could I have forgotten him?
Oh, trust me, he was next. But since he's already been put forth...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/Civil%20War%20banners/ras.jpg
David Warner... 'nuff said!
Nyssane
07-08-2007, 01:01 PM
Characters I would put in (I haven't read all the posts so forgive me if others already said them):
Lex Luthor from Superman: The Animated Series
The Joker from Batman: The Animated Series
David Xanatos from Gargoyles
Magneto from X-Men: The Animated Series
The Sinister Six from Spider-Man: The Animated Series
Megatron from Beast Wars: Transformers
Megabyte from ReBoot
Lamprey from War Planets: Shadow Raiders
Deedee from Dexter's Laboratory
Mojo Jojo from Powerpuff Girls
Angelica Pickles from Rugrats
Roger Klotz from Doug
Ursula from Little Mermaid: The Series
That's all I got so far...
scottv
07-08-2007, 01:12 PM
I think my top 3 are Xanatos from Gargoyles, Magneto and Megatron.
lonewolf23k
07-08-2007, 01:53 PM
And now, for a slightly less serious/badass corporate villain, though still a favorite of mine...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/15/Limburger.jpg
Lawrence Limburger, head of Chicago's division of Plutark's Earth strip-mining endeavors on the Biker Mice from Mars series. While he wasn't as badass as Xanatos in the scheming field, he had his moments, and definetly tried his worst.
Edit: Also, he's impressive in his persistance.. How many villains do you know rebuild their building tower everytime it's destroyed (which is pretty much in every episode of the old series)
Ivan Isaacs
07-09-2007, 02:22 AM
When I read the thread title I immediately thought "David Xanatos".
Unlike many other cartoon villains, he does not employ buffoons. All his employees are extremely competent, from his indespensible assistant, Owen Burnett, to his eneticist, Dr. Sevarius, right on down to Bruno, the head of his corporate guard. His wife, Fox, is his equal in all aspects. Just as ruthless and Machiavellian as he is.
AND he carey about them. When Owen was turned to stone it was VERY important for him that he didn't die.
I also want to add "MacBeth" as well as Cameron Winter from the Godzilla Cartoon:
http://www.scifijapan.com/Ep/05Winter1.jpg
Sorry G1 Megs fans, but as far as this transfan's concerned, Beast Wars Megatron is a better villain then the original one was. He was cunning, manipulative, a Machavellian plotter combined with a skilled battlefield commander. He ran schemes within schemes, taking calculated risks and even tampering with the fabric of time and space to achieve his goals of Predacon victory over the Maximals. And he had a wicked sense of dark humor as well.
"Yes?" :D
Oh, and what about Scarab from "Mummies Alive!"?
http://queen-of-outer-space.com/scarpic1.jpg
Ivan Isaacs
07-09-2007, 02:28 AM
And the cool guys from that one series that shall not be named...
http://sailormoon.animesekai.net/character/2rubeus.jpg
http://sailormoon.pdnmz.com/diamond_sapphire.jpg
http://www.sailor-games.com/guessit/jadeite.jpg
http://www.gemele.com/sailormoon/villains/neflite.gif
Ivan Isaacs
07-09-2007, 02:30 AM
http://www.sailor-senshi.de/grafiken/germantoid.jpg
And what about
http://idata.over-blog.com/0/04/74/81/piccolo006_1_.jpg
http://www.northarc.com/images/dballz/vegeta-a.jpg
?
DC/Marvelfan
07-09-2007, 03:45 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/2carte.jpg
The Joker from Batman:TAS and Lex from Superman:TAS are great, I fear they'll never make another good comic series like these again, everything's all anime crap, even the comic shows are too anime looking, it is a real shame that kids are being brought up on this crap and don't know what good cartoons are like Bats and Supes.
I love that Nega-Duck was on this list also! Venom and Kingpin from Spidey were great too.
ViciousX
07-09-2007, 12:08 PM
Since others started bringing up anime villains, here's my personal favorite:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v661/gregx/Civil%20War%20banners/cbp016.jpg
Vicious was pure badass scary, and more than lived up to his name. Cold as an arctic glacier. Calculating as a snake, and a real demon in combat. He'd bring a sword to a gun fight, and though he may have died at the end... he took the hero with him.
The Zapper
07-09-2007, 04:40 PM
The Joker from Batman:TAS and Lex from Superman:TAS are great, I fear they'll never make another good comic series like these again, everything's all anime crap, even the comic shows are too anime looking, it is a real shame that kids are being brought up on this crap and don't know what good cartoons are like Bats and Supes.
Quoted for truth.
ViciousX
07-09-2007, 04:55 PM
Quoted for truth.
As with everything else. There is come good (Cowboy Bebop, Berserk) and mountains upon mountains of crap.
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