The Never Ending Forum needs a new name!

[Jonah Weiland]

Hey folks,

As the CBR Forums continue to grow (especially since the new server was installed), I've had a number of new artists and writers ask where they should post to show off their wares or to look for artists. Clearly we need a better name for this forum so they can find it easily.

So, I'm holding something of a contest -- feel free to suggest new names for this forum and the one we like the best will get a whole bunch of CBR swag (t-shirt, book, antenna balls, etc.). Just post them to this thread and we'll choose the best suggestion.

Bring 'em on!

[Mike Smash!]

Hey folks,

As the CBR Forums continue to grow (especially since the new server was installed), I've had a number of new artists and writers ask where they should post to show off their wares or to look for artists. Clearly we need a better name for this forum so they can find it easily.

So, I'm holding something of a contest -- feel free to suggest new names for this forum and the one we like the best will get a whole bunch of CBR swag (t-shirt, book, antenna balls, etc.). Just post them to this thread and we'll choose the best suggestion.

Bring 'em on!The Drawing Board?

[Big Red Spider]

Juxtaposed

[Winslow]

Lines and Letters

[howyadoin]

I'll go with the only one I can remember from OzBat's old "We Need a New Name" thread:

Words & Pictures.

[escapegoat]

Howsabout.....The Creation Nation?

[yoda510]

I like C.L.I.P. Corner

Colors, Letters, Inks, Pencils

[Jonah Weiland]

Where was this thread OzBat ran? Would love to see it.

So far, I think his suggestion is the best. Creation Nation's not bad either.

Keep 'em coming, folks!

[yoda510]

I just had a better version of my own.

C.L.I.P. Art

[Radical]

The Drawing Board?

Dude, you stole my idea! :p :D

Seriously, though, that was all I could think of. :(

[ifeelasleep]

The Showcase

[howyadoin]

Where was this thread OzBat ran? Would love to see it.I think it was pre-Zero Hour. Can't remember whether it was here or on the Comm.

[Jonah Weiland]

The Drawing Board is good, but it doesn't encompass the fact this forum covers both writing and art. That being said, should we separate this forum into two, or is there plenty of room for both on this forum?

[Joe Grendel]

Keep it merged. The NEB has waxed and waned over the years, and one too-busy board (which rarely happens) is better than two moribund ones, IMO.

[howyadoin]

The Drawing Board is good, but it doesn't encompass the fact this forum covers both writing and art. That being said, should we separate this forum into two, or is there plenty of room for both on this forum?I think havin' both of them together would draw more people.

Plus, y'know, where would people post comic pages?

[howyadoin]

My suggestion: Four Color Fan CreationsExcept that every image on the board is RGB and not CMYK.

[yoda510]

I agree with keeping them together, but I think there should be more stickies at the top. Some for writers, pencilers, etc.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

We should keep it simple:

Arts & Crafts
Creator Corner
Words and Images
Art Zone

[Tahko Tetsujin]

Well, being a bit of a funny guy, I recommend:

- The Carpal Tunnel
- O.C.D. (Our Corner to Draw)
- Five Fantastic Fingers
- The Imagination Sweatshop
- Palette for Art
- The "I Couldn't Think of What to Name the Art Forum" Art Forum

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Those are funny, but bear in mind that Never Ending Forums is not only the home to artists but also writers and pretty much anyone with at least one creative bone in their whole bodies.

[Tahko Tetsujin]

Those are funny, but bear in mind that Never Ending Forums is not only the home to artists but also writers and pretty much anyone with at least one creative bone in their whole bodies.

You are right. I forget because I never read them. That being said I'll try to start.

Well you generalized all my entries. Clearly by your argument you cannot dispute:

- Five Fantastic Fingers
- The Imagination Sweatshop
- The Carpal Tunnel

I mean you still use your fingers when writing right? Enough to maybe develop The Carpal Tunnel?

[howyadoin]

Those are funny, but bear in mind that Never Ending Forums is not only the home to artists but also writers and pretty much anyone with at least one creative bone in their whole bodies.The funny part about that is, in the early days it was much more weighted towards writers than artists, unlike the way it is now.

[Joe Grendel]

The funny part about that is, in the early days it was much more weighted towards writers than artists, unlike the way it is now.

In fact, it explicitly started as a fan fiction forum, when the transition from KCMB to CBR happened.

[howyadoin]

In fact, it explicitly started as a fan fiction forum, when the transition from KCMB to CBR happened.Oh wow, didn't realize it went back that far.

[Jonah Weiland]

Oh wow, didn't realize it went back that far.Yeah, this forum actually dates back before the Community Forum (which was previously called the Miscellaneous Forum).

[howyadoin]

Yeah, this forum actually dates back before the Community Forum (which was previously called the Miscellaneous Forum).Cool. Glad to be a part of it.

[Tahko Tetsujin]

Okay I get it. I'm disavowing certain people. I could apologize but I think I'll just read a bunch of stuff and write something out on my own as a penance. It will probably be a while before I am able to drop it. I'm bad at fleshing out a concept that isn't full of dialogue.

[escapegoat]

I changed my mind...I think Imagine Nation sounds better than Creation Nation
Tahko had almost suggested it in his post ;)

[Superheroic]

Those are funny, but bear in mind that Never Ending Forums is not only the home to artists but also writers and pretty much anyone with at least one creative bone in their whole bodies.


Oh. Creative Bones sounds good.

[Jonah Weiland]

I changed my mind...I think Imagine Nation sounds better than Creation Nation
Tahko had almost suggested it in his post ;)Not bad. I like that.

Might have to put the top five up for vote in a week ... keep 'em coming, folks!

[MaxofSteel]

The "Imagination Station" Forum (inspired by escapegoat)

The "Up and Coming Arts" Forum

The "Artist Showcase" Forum

The "POST YOUR ART HERE" forum ( :p )

Creator Corner

I like this one too.

[Gary_B]

How about Artist's Alley? That's where I go to see new work and emerging artists when I'm at a con.

[cactusmaac]

CBR Portfolios

[howyadoin]

I changed my mind...I think Imagine Nation sounds better than Creation NationOkay, I think that's my favourite so far. I can see a logo for it in my head already.

[OzBat!]

Where was this thread OzBat ran? Would love to see it.

So far, I think his suggestion is the best. Creation Nation's not bad either.

Keep 'em coming, folks!

I think it was pre-Zero Hour. Can't remember whether it was here or on the Comm.Yeah, it was before the last reboot, I think. I haven't been moderator here for more than a couple of years now. We never settled on a name at the time either.

I don't remember who came up with 'Words and Pictures', I don't think it was me. But I'll take the credit if we end up with it!

Other suggestions:

Creative Muse
Creative Drive
Storyboarding
Amateur Hour (as I recall, there was some argument over this, not all contributors would be strictly amateur).

[Illinest]

i'm new.
I was seeking for a place to see people's comics, read comics, critique comics, post my own comics if i ever feel inspired, etc...


anyways, the search words I used were
comics creator critique forum

It didn't lead directly here.
After I revised my search down to just 'comics forum' I found this site.

anyways, 'creator' and 'critique' might be good words to have in the title. Would've made my search easier.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Maybe I´m flagging my DigitalWebbing colors but I think "showcase" would be preferable to "critique".

[Kara Zor El]

Creator Hub.

Hub of Creation.

Pool of Ideas.

Pool of Creation.

Pool of Imagination

[The Mirrorball Man]

"The Place Where Artists and Writers Should Post to Show Off their Wares or to Look for Artists".

[Tre Styles]

Here's some more ideas:

Creativity Unleashed!

Out of My Mind

Original Creators Club (The OCC)

New Ideas

Artists and Writers: The Next Generation

Creative /Creator's Street/Ave/Road/etc...

I also liked the suggestions of "Artists Alley", "Imagination Station", and "Creator's Corner"

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Out of My Mind


Inspired!
I love this one! :)

[Joe Acro]

The first that come to mind, without even looking at other suggestions, are:

Imagination Station
Creation Station
Creators' Quandary
The Creation Cupboard
The Idea Hut
Mental Machinations

[Jonah Weiland]

What do you guys think if I choose my favorite Top 5 and let you guys vote on the results?

[MaxofSteel]

What do you guys think if I choose my favorite Top 5 and let you guys vote on the results?

Sounds good to me. :)

[ZacharyLovesYou]

Post-Its

Creators' Suite

Workspace

Art to Art


And that's all I have. haha

[howyadoin]

What do you guys think if I choose my favorite Top 5 and let you guys vote on the results?Works for me.

Especially if one of those 5 is "Imagine Nation".

[Eliseu Gouveia]

What do you guys think if I choose my favorite Top 5 and let you guys vote on the results?

Go for it!

In Jonah we trust. :)

[Your Imaginary Pal]

rough drafts
intelligent designs
skills assessment
CBR Showing Off
Starving Artists
Look What I Can Do
STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND LOOK AT ME

I'm really liking "Out of My Mind"

[Solaris]

Part of the problem with a name like "Out of My Mind" is that it doesn't really indicate a creator's forum to a newbie who's *looking* for such a forum. I mean, we've had forums like "You'll All Be Sorry," "Lying In the Gutters," etc... so a name like that would tend to get lost. It needs to have some reference to what it *is* clearly in the name, IMO.

I like "Artists' Alley" very much, because it does just that. "Creators' Corner" almost sounds more like a place where you can go to chat with the pros, rather than a place to post your own stuff.

Likewise, "Imagine Nation," while incredibly catchy, doesn't really indicate that it's a place for us to post art, stories, links, searches for same, etc.

So, for the names already proposed, I vote for Artists' Alley as my number one choice for something that makes it easy for newbies to find.

I'll try to throw some ideas into the hat here, but frankly, I doubt I'll come up with anything as good as what's already been suggested... but here goes:


Your Pencil Den

...This one's my favorite! (Not to mention, I love a good pun.) :D

Your Gallery, Prose, and a Cuppa Joe

...Okay, this one is my other favorite. :D

Pen and Ink, No Swords Allowed

Artists' Landing

[Illinest]

Part of the problem with a name like "Out of My Mind" is that it doesn't really indicate a creator's forum to a newbie who's *looking* for such a forum. I mean, we've had forums like "You'll All Be Sorry," "In the Gutters," etc... so a name like that would tend to get lost. It needs to have some reference to what it *is* clearly in the name, IMO.


I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Cute gets lost. It's inapropriate for a 'working' forum.

[Solaris]

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Cute gets lost. It's inapropriate for a 'working' forum.

Well, the problem is, we're all approaching it from the viewpoint of knowing all about what the NEF is, and what it's supposed to do, and when we want to post some art or writing, we go straight to it without really thinking about it. So a name like "Imagine Nation" or "Out of My Mind" to us naturally carries with it the purpose of the board behind the name. You have to stop, think like a newbie, and pretend you've never been to the CBR forums before, and then ask yourself "If I was reading this name cold, listed among the other forums... would I know what it's for?"

To me, "Imagine Nation" sounds like a new comic title, and "Out of My Mind" sounds like a Columnist's title.

Yes, the descriptive blurb that comes after the forum name helps, but it's the bolded forum name that's first gonna catch (or not catch) their attention.

Speaking of which, The Creators' Clipboard might not be a bad name, either. I still like better the first two I suggested, though. For one thing, having "Your" in the title helps convey the idea that YOU are the creator, rather than that you'll be talking to pro creators. *groans over unintentional pun there*

[Illinest]

that's why i'm here. I'm the noob. Note postcount.


This forum was hard to find. I wish it weren't so hard to find.

[howyadoin]

Personally, I think anything with "pen" or "pencil" in it sounds more exclusive to art than writing. I get that people can write with those, but seriously, do many people do it that way anymore?

[howyadoin]

This forum was hard to find. I wish it weren't so hard to find.I get what you're sayin', but should that be the only criteria?

[Solaris]

I get what you're sayin', but should that be the only criteria?

Well, it looks like it's the most important criteria, according to da Boss:

...I've had a number of new artists and writers ask where they should post to show off their wares or to look for artists. Clearly we need a better name for this forum so they can find it easily.

[Tre Styles]

Well I'm down for whatever we decide. But you know...It wasn't that hard for me to find the forum when I first decided to look. That's what the descriptions are for. Our current description says: " Writers and Artists share your fanfic, drawings, poems, paintings, fiction, sketches, and all other sorts of artwork here. Discuss tools, techniques, and even hype your art-related website."

It makes it very clear what the NEB is.

Yet, I understand that we live in this quick and fast society....so hence the need for a new name that everyone can recognize right away. However, I'm wondering if it wasn't the forum itself but where it was located? I mean you can find your forums about Marvel Comics in the Marvel Forums, which has it sub-forums...this is under the regular CBR Forums. Which maybe why it was "hard" to find, since a lot of people come just for comics initally.

[Solaris]

Well I'm down for whatever we decide. But you know...It wasn't that hard for me to find the forum when I first decided to look. That's what the descriptions are for. Our current description says: " Writers and Artists share your fanfic, drawings, poems, paintings, fiction, sketches, and all other sorts of artwork here. Discuss tools, techniques, and even hype your art-related website."

It makes it very clear what the NEB is.

Yet, I understand that we live in this quick and fast society....so hence the need for a new name that everyone can recognize right away. However, I'm wondering if it wasn't the forum itself but where it was located? I mean you can find your forums about Marvel Comics in the Marvel Forums, which has it sub-forums...this is under the regular CBR Forums. Which maybe why it was "hard" to find, since a lot of people come just for comics initally.

You raise a good point, Tre... maybe it should be under the "Miscellaneous" Forums? If nothing else, the list of forums is smaller there, and it might make it easier to find.

[Jared H.]

The Muse's Corner.

[Tre Styles]

New thought:

Creation Gallery.

[TroyCarlson]

how about "Portfolio Review"? That's plenty straightforward, I'd say.

Otherwise, I like "Artists Alley", "Amateur Hour" and "Storyboarding"

[howyadoin]

how about "Portfolio Review"? That's plenty straightforward, I'd say.

Otherwise, I like "Artists Alley", "Amateur Hour" and "Storyboarding"Personally, I think some of those are too literal. This isn't a portfolio review forum, it's not just for artists, and it's not just for comics or storyboarding.

[Illinest]

Creator's Corner

descriptive
non-discriminatory
alliterative

[Tahko Tetsujin]

I like Imagine Nation.

I mean if you want to argue semantics about n00bs then you can easily say that the fact that there is a kabillion forums. So no matter what it's called it's amongst a sea of other forums.

[howyadoin]

I like Imagine Nation.

I mean if you want to argue semantics about n00bs then you can easily say that the fact that there is a kabillion forums. So no matter what it's called it's amongst a sea of other forums.We are in complete agreement.

[TinMan]

Creator's Corner

descriptive
non-discriminatory
alliterative

Now I'm depressed, that's exactly what I was gonna suggest. :p

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I am in complete favour of an imaginative title for the forums, but like Jonah said initialy, the problem is that many people - many shopping for new talent for their comic projects- don´t know where to start looking.

We need a simple title that - while appealing to our imagination-, shows to the casual visitor what this forum is about from the get-go.

[howyadoin]

We need a simple title that - while appealing to our imagination-, shows to the casual visitor what this forum is about from the get-go.The problem with that idea is that if you're looking to communicate all the functions that this board serves, you could end up with a name that's 50 words long.

To me this reminds me of designing logos for clients who want to communicate every single aspect of their business in a 1-inch logo. Eventually what you end up with is a mess.

[Tami]

I never posted here before, but I do have four ideas.

1. Never Ending Vision

2. Creative Thought

3. Unique View

4. Your Vision

[zuludelta]

I think a simple, straightforward name would work best. Some of the suggestions so far are very imaginative, but can be a little ambiguous and have veered slightly from the original reason for the drive to rename the thread:

...I've had a number of new artists and writers ask where they should post to show off their wares or to look for artists. Clearly we need a better name for this forum so they can find it easily.

With that, purpose in mind, here are my suggestions:

- The Talent Pool
- Words and Pictures
- Show-and-Tell

In the end, though, I think new-user accessibility will be determined not just by the forum name but also by the forum's placement on the Comic Book Resources Forums hierarchy (I always thought that intuitively, it belongs under the Miscellaneous Forum subheadings myself) and the conciseness of the explanation blurb at the bottom of the forum name.

[666MasterOfPuppets]

Dammit, I don't have any idea. Creators' Hangout? Creators' Hideout? Writers and Artists' Bar?

EDIT: Well, as you can see, I do have some ideas. They all suck, though.

[Lewis Rice]

What about just plane old Artist Corner?

[mattbib]

"Creative Space" is simple and self-explanatory.

[Lewis Rice]

Yes, that seems good.

[Tahko Tetsujin]

"Creative Space" is simple and self-explanatory.

Awesome, I'll get pictures of my clay pots and post them. Not so simple is it?
































I don't have any clay pots.

[mattbib]

Awesome, I'll get pictures of my clay pots and post them. Not so simple is it?
Ummm...posting pictures of clay pots you've made would be perfectly acceptable on this forum.

[Puma]

Word & Vision

Local Talent

[Tahko Tetsujin]

Ummm...posting pictures of clay pots you've made would be perfectly acceptable on this forum.

Well then there should be a clay pot challenge.

I give my vote to the one that makes a Green Lantern. Not the person. The Lantern. Let me know how many people enter that contest won't ya?

I think the TRULY RELATIVE content is writing and drawing. So to focus names based around pencils or pens. I mean I believe my point was before it went over the mod's head is that in this case "simple" is a relative term.

All kidding aside, if someone made a green lantern out of clay, I would TOTALLY buy that.

edit: I was a bit off center when writing this. I meant to say that we should take a true look and be honest about what this forum is and isn't based on the existing content since it's existence. To say that people could post pottery forces a generalization and thus why it is so hard to find a name that encompasses everything because you can't.

I think a content density check on this forum would be required to see who is ACTUALLY attracted to this forum and contributes. Only then can you truly narrow down the names that you can use.

Me and howyadoin have been saying this for a bit actually.

[Captain_Video]

Creative Combustion.

The talent spot.

Creative Forces.

Talent Alliance.

I am no good at names, also as an aside would it not be a major boon for this forum if it could also host discussion about creative method ? like the conversations about writing styles and art styles that so often happen in community, could they not be housed here instead, to draw in traffic ?

Also it could host tips for different artistic endeavours and how to's of all natures ( I have often wanted to post a filmmaking how to with realistic information that people don't tell you starting out ).

Just an idea that I thought was logical.

[Ben Morgan]

The Writers Realm

[Generic Eric]

CBR's Got Talent
Talent Search
Creator's Conferance
Never Ending Talent

[Kara Zor El]

Creative Combustion.

The talent spot.

Creative Forces.

Talent Alliance.

I am no good at names, also as an aside would it not be a major boon for this forum if it could also host discussion about creative method ? like the conversations about writing styles and art styles that so often happen in community, could they not be housed here instead, to draw in traffic ?

Also it could host tips for different artistic endeavours and how to's of all natures ( I have often wanted to post a filmmaking how to with realistic information that people don't tell you starting out ).

Just an idea that I thought was logical.


Sounds good to me.

[Tahko Tetsujin]

I think I have an idea that can settle it all.

Sub-forums.

Now hear me out. Not only would sub-forums allow respect to all types of art by giving out more specified classifications, if you use sub-forums they will be listed underneath the new name of the forum thus giving a clear indication that both artist and writers are welcome.

It would make this area much more organized and easy to manipulate. Also as a former admin of a forum, I know how easily it can be done.

If that ain't the answer, then we just WANT to chase our own tail.

[Bravestarr]

The Art Pot

[Lorendiac]

I think I have an idea that can settle it all.

Sub-forums.

Now hear me out. Not only would sub-forums allow respect to all types of art by giving out more specified classifications, if you use sub-forums they will be listed underneath the new name of the forum thus giving a clear indication that both artist and writers are welcome.

A question: How many separate sub-forums are you thinking about, exactly?

[Tahko Tetsujin]

A question: How many separate sub-forums are you thinking about, exactly?

I dunno, I would sort it by popularity. No more than two or three. I mean obviously there would be Art, Writing, and (just a suggestion) Wallpapers.

They could have their own names. And then everything else could go into the main area all the odds and ends.

I'm sure a little more brainstorming would be required but you get the idea.

[ubergeekette]

1. The Artist formely known as The Never Ending Forum (get it? Artist!)
2. Imagination Station

[Pyro]

I have a suggestion:

Show Us Your Stuff!

or

Show Off Your Stuff!

It's mildly funny and includes any form of creativity.

But if you wanted something more literal, something like "Creativity Corner" would be good.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I just skipped ahead.... no clue if this name was used or not.


Imagination Showcase

The Never Ending Showcase

New & Raw Talent

EXTREME SHOWCASE !

;)

[Quantum]

The Writer's Block
Arts and Crafts

[ubergeekette]

Ultimate Never Ending Forum

[mattbib]

Keep the suggestions coming!

In a week or so I'm going to open up a thread in which we can vote for our favorites to narrow the list down to the more popular ones. :)