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Breadfan

06-29-2007, 02:59 PM

Well, much to no ones surprise, Thor will be returning to the Marvel Universe. I think that the way Marvel brings him back will have big repercussions not only in comics but with the fans also.

So let me hear how you'd like Goldilocks to return.

In my opinion I think that he should come back when the Hulk has just about smashed everyone in WWH. And he ends up putting the smack down on the Hulk.

Let's hear how you'd like him to return.

BF

Camron Amaya

06-29-2007, 03:03 PM

You realize you've jst started the Thor vs. Hulk argument all over again haha.

But yea that'd be a cool return if he had a big bass battle with Hulk right away.

I just hope they don't drag out the first issues cuz that's the worst. Get into a story right away, something epic and interesting we don't need 5 issues of memories and blah blah.

DaeJi

06-29-2007, 03:10 PM

I'm not too thrilled with the what I've seen of the first issue so far; too many quiet pages with nothing happening. For 2.99, I want some meat in my books. But I'm looking forward to see me mate back in the game. I would love to see him smack around Hulk, Sentry, Silver Surfer, basically anyone who thinks that they should be the most powerful hero in Marvel. It's time someone reminded them who holds that title.

thronzeblast

06-29-2007, 03:16 PM

Thor/hulk fights have never started out equal or never finish.Thor fights the hulk without his hammer,the hulk is the version where if he get's to mad he will revert to banner.They get stopped in the middle like the time the avengers fought the defenders.Hulk is mindless they fight and strange come's and banish him before it ends.I would like to see it now though hulk at the top of his game and thor back as powerful as ever.

Brad Barton

06-29-2007, 03:21 PM

You realize you've jst started the Thor vs. Hulk argument all over again haha.

But yea that'd be a cool return if he had a big bass battle with Hulk right away.Don't think it's gonna happen. The only way Thor gets involved with WWH is if innocent civilian lives are endangered, and we know they evacuated NYC for the battle.

I think once Thor finds out why Hulks so mad, he'll let Reed and Tony sleep in the bed's they've made for themselves....especially considering they made a Cloned/Cybernetik mockery of him that turned out to be a psycho killer.

DaeJi

06-29-2007, 03:30 PM

Brad Barton

06-29-2007, 04:04 PM

If Thor doesn't try to stop the Hulk I would consider that an insult to the character. The Hulk is a threat to everyone right now, and Thor isn't one to sit around and let that happen. And there have been fights that Thor has won and fights that Hulk has won; writers are just worried that having one beat the other will lessen whoever lost.And in this instance it would be even harder to decide who would win, they're both at extremely high profile points in their history.

If they fought and Thor won, it would lessen WWH in some way. If they fought and Hulk won, it would lessen the Return of Thor in some way. It's a lose/lose situation, which is why I have a feeling they'll leave this one alone.

And if you want a rational reason why, they could just say that, continuity-wise, WWH happens before Thor's return.

thronzeblast

06-29-2007, 05:02 PM

If Thor doesn't try to stop the Hulk I would consider that an insult to the character. The Hulk is a threat to everyone right now, and Thor isn't one to sit around and let that happen. And there have been fights that Thor has won and fights that Hulk has won; writers are just worried that having one beat the other will lessen whoever lost.

I dont see him just coming back and the first thing they do is throw him at the hulk.If seems to me that they intend to reestablish hulk in marvel as the strongest one there is.If they clash right now one of them is gonna have to lose,and it will need to be a decisive loss that cant be blamed on anything.

cernunnos

06-29-2007, 06:36 PM

And in this instance it would be even harder to decide who would win, they're both at extremely high profile points in their history.

If they fought and Thor won, it would lessen WWH in some way. If they fought and Hulk won, it would lessen the Return of Thor in some way. It's a lose/lose situation, which is why I have a feeling they'll leave this one alone.

And if you want a rational reason why, they could just say that, continuity-wise, WWH happens before Thor's return.

If Marvel does have a Hulk-Thor fight right off the bat, the best ending they could have for this fight without having Hulk fans and Thor fans bitch about the outcome would be a draw. I would rather see Thor not get involved or possibly even joining the Hulk in some sort of alliance. I think they would be great for leading the charge against the Skrull infiltration.:cool: :cool:

Samuraixsithlord

06-29-2007, 08:35 PM

With all the downer endings in X-men, Silent War, and Green Lantern this week i'm looking for some cheering up and Thor returning is just what i need.

as for Hulk vs Thor fight, i can only see it happening if the Hulk were to hurt innocent civilians or if he attacks Thor. When Thor finds out that Reed, Pym, and Stark cloned him and then that clone killed an innocent in his name combined with the Hulk being sent into space i'm sure he's going to let the Illumnati deal with their own problems

DaeJi

06-29-2007, 09:15 PM

I don't think Thor is happy at all with the Illumnati; but the moment Hulk threaten the planet, even if only they don't meet certain condition, just put him on Thor's hit list.

Kyle_Ion

06-29-2007, 10:53 PM

Thor has bigger fish to fry and at this point in time I don't want thor to be involved with the WWH. I have a feeling that hulk will be the least of Thors worries. On a side note they don't always have to be a fight on the very first comic book that comes out for the series. Though I can't wait for the 3rd comic book cause it looks like to me that there is going to be a confrontation between Thor and Iron man. But for the first 2 books we need to find out

1. Is Donald Blake Thor
2. What does Donald Blake mean to the people of the area that he is in.
3. How will he create the new asgard

Samuraixsithlord

07-01-2007, 03:17 AM

I don't think Thor is happy at all with the Illumnati; but the moment Hulk threaten the planet, even if only they don't meet certain condition, just put him on Thor's hit list.

Why would Thor want to go after Hulk, for once he's not acting like a mindless monster. He gave everyone 24 hours to leave NY before he landed and came looking for the Illumanti and his vengence is rather justified. Even if the Illumnati didn't intend for the core on the ship to blow up, they're still responsible for the deaths of billions of sentient beings, saying its not their fault is like saying its not a drunks fault when he decides to drive and accidently kills someone.

I don't see Thor helping the Hulk, but i don't see him getting in the Hulks way (unless he starts killing innocent people)

Matt_Stevens

07-01-2007, 06:57 AM

Forgive me, but I had been away from comic books for years. What happened to Thor? Where did he go?

Captain Exaggeration

07-01-2007, 10:13 AM

Forgive me, but I had been away from comic books for years. What happened to Thor? Where did he go?
Ragnarök, the Norse Armageddon took place and all the Asgaurdians died. Anyway after the huge battle-thing Thor's hammer flew through several dimensions including hell (this is how Dr. Doom returns as well) and eventually lands in Nebraska or some random state. Don Blake then comes by and picks it up.

I'm kind of optimistic about his return myself. I hope I am not disappointed.

DannyV_El_Acme

07-01-2007, 11:28 AM

I see Thor's return not only being important for the heroes of the Marvel U(getting back one of their most powerful, loved and respected comrades back) but also the Marvel U as a whole. I think Civil War would have been DRASTICALLY different if Thor had been around. Not only would Clor probably never have existed, I thin Thor could have decisively turned the tide of the War in Cap/anti-registration's favor. I think Thor will be a symbol of hope and renewed spirits for the Marvel U. The moment he makes his first big public reappearance, I think people will cheer and cry tears of joy. I know I would :) As for facing the Hulk, I think he WILL face him, but something will happen to stop it. Undoubtedly, Thor's the Marvel U's best shot at stopping the Hulk, but I still think the Hulk himself will be the one to stop for some reason or the other.

As for alliances, I think Thor would be independent for now. No amount of SHIELD force or diplomacy could conceivably be able to register him, he wouldn't join the Mighty Avengers because of Stark's actions in CW and WWH, and he wouldn't join the New Avengers because he'd be annoyed at constantly hiding and not being public, seeing it as dishonorable and not becoming of him("Thou skulketh in the shadows like lowly vermin! Have you no pride?! Thath not be a worthy attitude for the Son of Odin!").

Bryson the Red

07-01-2007, 01:07 PM

I hope to see Thor involved in WWH, but I doubt we will. If he were to get involved, I think it would be cool if he didn't pick a side he just followed the battle stopping innocent people from being hurt/stopping some property damage.

Syzygy

07-01-2007, 01:12 PM

WWH is Hulk's event.

If WWH is mixed up with Thor's return, he's going to be overshadowed by the Hulk. and probably beaten. Hulk's event = Hulk's best showing ever.

Thor should return in his own event, untroubled by whatever Hulk is doing.

mandog

07-01-2007, 06:22 PM

I think Marvel dropped the ball a bit with the return of Thor. In my mind there should have been more build up to it. Something fitting for the God of Thunder.

MAK15

07-01-2007, 06:27 PM

I think Marvel dropped the ball a bit with the return of Thor. In my mind there should have been more build up to it. Something fitting for the God of Thunder.

we dont need a major event or build up for everything that happens.
I mean, Captain Marvel's return. nice that he's around, but we didnt need months of suspense of who was gunna be returning.
also, I think that the Civil War ish three when Cyborg Thor showed up was the big reveal.

spidervenom

07-01-2007, 06:28 PM

only thing I want with Thor is him fighting the sentry and make him his bitch man that be great.

mandog

07-01-2007, 06:35 PM

we dont need a major event or build up for everything that happens.
I mean, Captain Marvel's return. nice that he's around, but we didnt need months of suspense of who was gunna be returning.
also, I think that the Civil War ish three when Cyborg Thor showed up was the big reveal.

Agreed, we dont need events for everything, but in the case of Thor I think a bit of build up would have been nice, something along the lines of what they started to do in the FF book. I sure dont want another big event with multi crossing books.

As far as Captain Marvel goes, they should have left him dead. What a waist.

And I also agree I want Thor to make Sentry his bitch, let him show the world what i alread know, Sentry is nothing to the force that is Thor.

Bryson the Red

07-01-2007, 06:54 PM

Agreed, we dont need events for everything, but in the case of Thor I think a bit of build up would have been nice

As far as Captain Marvel goes, they should have left him dead. What a waist.

Agreed. Thor did not need a huge crossover event to herald his reappearance, but this is Thor. Come on! He's been around for like over 40 years, they've kept him dead for like 3 years now. I think he should get a little more than "CIVIL WAR! HULK! thor comes back from the dead. ATLANTIS INVADES! SKRULLS!" I dont know. I just think it would have been nice if they made a little bit of a deal of it. Maybe everyone who had been sort of close to Thor dedicates one issue to his return, to show their reaction to having the big guy back.

I think the way they brought Marvel back was a freaking shame, but I'll wait till after Conquest to decide if I hate it.

DaeJi

07-01-2007, 06:58 PM

Well, at least when they brought back Mar-Vell they left open a door to send him back without killing him again. And with this, they can get at least one good story where he meets his kids (though, they would have to bring back Genis-Vell for that; which they should anyway and give him back the Captain Marvel title). But after that he needs to be back in that grave where they left him.

gijello

07-02-2007, 10:28 AM

The owner of my local comic book store got a preview copy last week and loved it! I have high hopes for the new Thor.

Camron Amaya

07-02-2007, 10:33 AM

Ragnarök, the Norse Armageddon took place and all the Asgaurdians died. Anyway after the huge battle-thing Thor's hammer flew through several dimensions including hell (this is how Dr. Doom returns as well) and eventually lands in Nebraska or some random state. Don Blake then comes by and picks it up.

I'm kind of optimistic about his return myself. I hope I am not disappointed.

Actualy Ragnarok didn't happen, Thor stopped it by destroying the Norns little tapestry and thus the whole "norse" world.

Oh and I think his return will be a big deal. It may not be a huge event but it will be a big deal once it happens and the other encounter him. Althogh it would've been soooooo much cooler if it was the real Thor at the end of that Civil War issue. Cuz the anticipation for that and the hype for that was INSANE at the time. When I saw the lighting bolt hit for the first time I practicly sh*t myself.

Captain Exaggeration

07-02-2007, 04:00 PM

Actualy Ragnarok didn't happen, Thor stopped it by destroying the Norns little tapestry and thus the whole "norse" world.

Oh and I think his return will be a big deal. It may not be a huge event but it will be a big deal once it happens and the other encounter him. Althogh it would've been soooooo much cooler if it was the real Thor at the end of that Civil War issue. Cuz the anticipation for that and the hype for that was INSANE at the time. When I saw the lighting bolt hit for the first time I practicly sh*t myself.
Really? I haven't read it yet so I was kind of just assuming since they all died that... well yeah. I need to pick it up though. I hear its good. Stormbreaker was good.

Roquefort Raider

07-02-2007, 07:29 PM

Really? I haven't read it yet so I was kind of just assuming since they all died that... well yeah. I need to pick it up though. I hear its good. Stormbreaker was good.

Ragnarok did happen, Cap, and the whole point of Oeming's run was that Thor allowed it to happen even after destroying the Norns' tapestry to break the cycle of godly death and renewal that was feeding "Those who sit above in shadow". The idea is that this would be the real, the final Ragnarok (since it had occurred many times before). Thor wanted his friends and his world to go out in a blaze of glory, not be puppets to higher-level gods.

So yeah, all the Norse gods died more-or-less according to prophecy; Surtur burned everything, Fenris ate the sun and nothing was left at the end... except Thor, still possessor of the Odin force, who was about to enter a long sleep.

I can't see a way to bring the Asgardians back without cheapening Oeming's very good tale, but on the other hand I'm glad to have them back... Thor is too much part of the Marvel universe to be gone for good!

Trey

07-02-2007, 08:40 PM

sookibong

07-02-2007, 09:24 PM

While I have never been a HUGE fan of Thor, I'm pleased to say that his unusually long-for-comics absence has really made me excited for his return. I actually miss the character. I hope they keep Cap dead for at least the same amount of time.

jigrig

07-02-2007, 09:45 PM

Thor has the best supporting characters.
Asgard in OKlahoma is ok for an arc, but its pretty lame for a premise of the whole series. I'm looking for nods to the rich history of Thor, mixed with the current state of the MU.

Thor and Molly Hayes teamup!

I love alter egos! Its a staple of superheroes and a great way to show Thor interacting with humanity, Its really ok to have these little soap opera plots.
It would be interesting if the other Asgardians were trapped in mortal guises as Thor begins his search for his friends, while at the same time, Keeping an eye out for Loki, Ulik, Malekith, the Enchantress, etc.

Keep in mind that oklahoma borders part of New mexico, where Amadeus Cho just bought a huge chunk of as a haven for the Hulk.
This could lead to an interesting on & off again war between The Asgardians & Hulk & His Warbound.
King Hulk vs. King Thor.
Uneasy truces.
Uneasy alliances.
The part of Oklahoma that borders New Mexico looks almost eerily like a bridge.
Nah, they wouldnt do that, it might be cool to have the 2 toughest most stubborn characters in Marvel comics being next door neighbors.
This is assuming Marvel doesnt push Hulk beyond redemption which unfortunately it looks like they will.

berk

07-02-2007, 09:47 PM

Looks to me like Marvel, not satisfied with their first attempt at an MU-Superman, is trying to make Thor into another by bringing him back as a super-powered alien immigrant to the American mid-west.

Thursaiz

07-02-2007, 09:48 PM

I think that Thor should be in WWH. Unless I am mistaken, Hulk is traveling with Korg, who was actually part of Thor's first appearance back in the '60s. If that isn't the perfect rematch, I don't know what is.

Plus, it looks as if Sentry is going to go down along with the Illuminati on some level. There isn't anyone else who can tackle with Hulk.

I also have this feeling that his Warbound are going to turn the tables on ol' Hulk. It might take Thor showing up even things out.

Camron Amaya

07-03-2007, 11:39 AM

Ragnarok did happen, Cap, and the whole point of Oeming's run was that Thor allowed it to happen even after destroying the Norns' tapestry to break the cycle of godly death and renewal that was feeding "Those who sit above in shadow". The idea is that this would be the real, the final Ragnarok (since it had occurred many times before). Thor wanted his friends and his world to go out in a blaze of glory, not be puppets to higher-level gods.

So yeah, all the Norse gods died more-or-less according to prophecy; Surtur burned everything, Fenris ate the sun and nothing was left at the end... except Thor, still possessor of the Odin force, who was about to enter a long sleep.

I can't see a way to bring the Asgardians back without cheapening Oeming's very good tale, but on the other hand I'm glad to have them back... Thor is too much part of the Marvel universe to be gone for good!

What I said was true. The "Ragnarok" cycle that's been happening to them for thousands of years was stopped. You knew exactly what I meant.

Roquefort Raider

07-04-2007, 11:50 AM

What I said was true. The "Ragnarok" cycle that's been happening to them for thousands of years was stopped. You knew exactly what I meant.

Actually no, but that may mean we just didn't get the same impression from Oeming's story.

Would you say that Thor undoing the Norns' tapestry made that Ragnarok a fake one, or at least a different one from what had been foretold?

In that sense I would agree: although the Norse gods all died (all but Thor, that is, and maybe Loki's severed head), it happened in a slightly different way from what had been depicted in Thor#200.

Still, considering the sense of foreboding that all the norse gods have always felt regarding ragnarok, I thought it very dramatic to see Thor allow his world to end more-or-less according to tradition, in real Viking fatalistic fashion. The end of the gods certainly seemed final to me in the context of that story, even if we know that in the real world of comic-book publishing no character stays dead forever.

But then again, even in the Edda, Ragnarok is not final since new gods rise after the twilight of the ancient ones. (I just doubt that Thor and Co. were supposed to come back).

Jack-o-Lantern

07-04-2007, 12:41 PM

only thing I want with Thor is him fighting the sentry and make him his bitch man that be great.

I would love for Thor to own Sentry. Sentry is the worse character ever!!!!!!

Camron Amaya

07-04-2007, 04:08 PM

Actually no, but that may mean we just didn't get the same impression from Oeming's story.

Would you say that Thor undoing the Norns' tapestry made that Ragnarok a fake one, or at least a different one from what had been foretold?

In that sense I would agree: although the Norse gods all died (all but Thor, that is, and maybe Loki's severed head), it happened in a slightly different way from what had been depicted in Thor#200.

Still, considering the sense of foreboding that all the norse gods have always felt regarding ragnarok, I thought it very dramatic to see Thor allow his world to end more-or-less according to tradition, in real Viking fatalistic fashion. The end of the gods certainly seemed final to me in the context of that story, even if we know that in the real world of comic-book publishing no character stays dead forever.

But then again, even in the Edda, Ragnarok is not final since new gods rise after the twilight of the ancient ones. (I just doubt that Thor and Co. were supposed to come back).

Yea it's an end, but cmon, not every end is a Ragnarok lol. Can't Asgard fall without it being Ragnarok? Can't somone just DIE? Plus Thor didn't even die he went to "sleep" like you said.

But I really meant was he did stop the cycle of them feeding, which was the main cause of Ragnarok for so long.

But yes you're right the result was still simmilar with them dying and all that.

Magneto Rocks

07-04-2007, 04:20 PM

Keep in mind that oklahoma borders part of New mexico, where Amadeus Cho just bought a huge chunk of as a haven for the Hulk.
This could lead to an interesting on & off again war between The Asgardians & Hulk & His Warbound.
King Hulk vs. King Thor.

Not much of a showdown. If Thor has the Odinpower he could literally dissolve Hulk with a thought!

DaeJi

07-04-2007, 04:26 PM

I don't think that slice of land will hold. Once Angel sees a window to get back his money, I'm sure he'll sell off everything Cho brought with it and send his young cocky butt packing.

Morw

07-04-2007, 04:28 PM

Actually no, but that may mean we just didn't get the same impression from Oeming's story.

Would you say that Thor undoing the Norns' tapestry made that Ragnarok a fake one, or at least a different one from what had been foretold?

In that sense I would agree: although the Norse gods all died (all but Thor, that is, and maybe Loki's severed head), it happened in a slightly different way from what had been depicted in Thor#200.

Still, considering the sense of foreboding that all the norse gods have always felt regarding ragnarok, I thought it very dramatic to see Thor allow his world to end more-or-less according to tradition, in real Viking fatalistic fashion. The end of the gods certainly seemed final to me in the context of that story, even if we know that in the real world of comic-book publishing no character stays dead forever.

But then again, even in the Edda, Ragnarok is not final since new gods rise after the twilight of the ancient ones. (I just doubt that Thor and Co. were supposed to come back).

It was Balder who was destined to be the leader of the risen gods after ragnarok. Thors son was supposed to take thors place.

Magneto Rocks

07-04-2007, 04:31 PM

It was Balder who was destined to be the leader of the risen gods after ragnarok. Thors son was supposed to take thors place.

No way, Balder died when he was stabbed with the Mistletoe spear and COULD have been released from Hel if Loki hadn't sabotaged the attempt.

Bryson the Red

07-04-2007, 04:52 PM

Well, Balder might not have taken over in the Mythology of it all, but it wouldn't be a bad idea for his return.

Kyle_Ion

07-04-2007, 07:27 PM

you know I would like to see what Beta Ray Bill would do if he found out that his oath brother made it out alive thru the whole Ragnarok mini? I would think that after learning thor is alive that he would go to earth to see if thor is really back.

DaeJi

07-04-2007, 07:34 PM

Beta Ray Bill is on Earth. He's in Canada.

Brandon Hex

07-04-2007, 07:46 PM

What?! Beta Ray Bill is Canadian ?!? No, no.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!!!!!!!

Kyle_Ion

07-04-2007, 07:58 PM

Beta Ray Bill is on Earth. He's in Canada.

see I haven't exactly been keeping up with the whole marvel universe, I'm picky when it comes to a title for a series. I still want to know what is going to happen when Beta Ray Bill somehow learns that his Oath Brother is alive.

DaeJi

07-04-2007, 07:59 PM

"Screw Canada! It's ham people, HAM!! THERE IS NO BACON!! I'm coming THOR!!"

thronzeblast

07-04-2007, 08:16 PM

Keep in mind that oklahoma borders part of New mexico, where Amadeus Cho just bought a huge chunk of as a haven for the Hulk.
This could lead to an interesting on & off again war between The Asgardians & Hulk & His Warbound.
King Hulk vs. King Thor.
Uneasy truces.
Uneasy alliances.
The part of Oklahoma that borders New Mexico looks almost eerily like a bridge.
Nah, they wouldnt do that, it might be cool to have the 2 toughest most stubborn characters in Marvel comics being next door neighbors.
This is assuming Marvel doesnt push Hulk beyond redemption which unfortunately it looks like they will.

There not bringing back thor with the odin force,who are they gonna have him fight if he has that.

Camron Amaya

07-04-2007, 08:45 PM

There not bringing back thor with the odin force,who are they gonna have him fight if he has that.

That's like saying there was nothing for Odin to do int he 40 plus year history of Thor comics. If you're a good writer, the Odinpower shouldn't be a problem at all.

And it can't just disapear wtf. If Odin is not back, then Thor should have it, that's how it works. If he doesn't that's retarted.

I will buy however that its "depleted" for a while, cuz he had to bring back Asgard or whatever.

Thursaiz

07-04-2007, 11:04 PM

I don't know how else he is going to re-create Asgard without some of the Odinpower.

Kyle_Ion

07-04-2007, 11:40 PM

Deadpooligan

07-04-2007, 11:53 PM

I just got done reading the entire Ragnorak mini for like the 10th time, and during the mini, it seemed to me that Thor was a God above the Gods. Now at the end of the Ragnarok mini it says that he went to sleep, and it didn't say he lost his odinpower or the rune power. So it got me thinking wouldn't he come back with the odinpower and the rune power, or will the writers find a way for him to loose both.

He made Loki look like an absolute joke after he ripped out his eyes and gained the power of the runes, but I wouldn't be surprised if Loki had involvement with Thor's [alleged] depowerment.

Ben Morgan

07-05-2007, 12:15 AM

There not bringing back thor with the odin force,who are they gonna have him fight if he has that.

He's coming back with the rune power

Kyle_Ion

07-05-2007, 12:23 AM

He's coming back with the rune power

how do you know that Thor will return with the rune power?

Kyle_Ion

07-05-2007, 12:26 AM

He made Loki look like an absolute joke after he ripped out his eyes and gained the power of the runes, but I wouldn't be surprised if Loki had involvement with Thor's [alleged] depowerment.

Yeah I know. It looked like what passed for his eyes were glowing. I would not want to be in Loki's position, I would be humiliated if I was just a head and Thor carried me around.

Ben Morgan

07-05-2007, 12:29 AM

how do you know that Thor will return with the rune power?

Thought I read it somewhere.......I could be mistaken though...

Brad Barton

07-05-2007, 03:50 AM

I don't know for sure, and I'm not sure where you're basing your info from, but I really, really doubt Rune or Odinforce Thor are coming back. I'm pretty sure it's the classic Mighty Thor we know and love, Mjolnir, winged-helm and all.

Right Action

07-05-2007, 05:35 AM

Odinforce Thor is not coming back, period.

www.paradisecomicbooks.com

Magneto Rocks

07-05-2007, 05:54 AM

Camron is totally right though.

If there's no Odin, then Thor is King. If Thor is King, he possesses the Odinforce. If he possesses the Odinforce, he could, for example, eat the Hulk for breakfast. (Literally)

How exactly does one recreate a destroyed Kingdom WITHOUT the Odinforce? It makes NO sense if he recreates Asgard without some measure of the Odinforce, which is a constant. Either Thor is King, and has it, or he's not King and doesn't. That he could be King and not have it does not make any sense. He already proved he was worthy of it, so if he doesn't have it and he is King... that means for some reason he's unworthy again!

(Though I'm still betting on the new Asgardians being the people in that plane which Thor's hammer passed by.)

Jmacq1

07-05-2007, 07:31 AM

Well, they've already stated that Thor will be coming back with a power-up (compared to his "classic" version) so the Odinforce or some remnant of that may well play into it.

My pet theory has been that Thor would end up sacrificing a good portion of the Odinforce to recreate "New Asgard" and repopulate it. Sort of spreading the "divine spark" of the Odinforce among the inhabitants (though keeping the largest "spark" for himself as king).

But it's purely conjecture. It'd just be an easy way to have him more powerful than before without being quite as omnipotent as a full Odinforce wielder.

Camron Amaya

07-05-2007, 08:31 AM