How long with the hunt for Magneto last? (potental spoilers)

[jmc247]

How long do you predict the hunt for Magneto is going to last?

[Brian M.]

The end of the currect arc in Uncanny.

[Phil Hunn]

Until the X-Men find Nina and the rest of the Mannites. If those weird little mecha-beings can find Chuck the Moron, they can find Magneto :p

[Erik Lehnsherr]

It ends by October, right? We'll be given a update by part 4 on his wherabouts and what part he'll play in Messiah Complex. Should be a interesting confrontation with Nightcrawler and Xavier though.

[Magneto Rocks]

Until they can think of an excuse to continue shoving him to the rear of the X-Universe until they can think of something useful for him to do?

Who, me? Still annoyed at Magnus' apparant TOTAL lack of part in Messiah CompleX? Never!

[Jake V]

How many months until Uncanny #500?

[Brian M.]

How many months until Uncanny #500?

One year from next week.

[jmc247]

Until they can think of an excuse to continue shoving him to the rear of the X-Universe until they can think of something useful for him to do?

Who, me? Still annoyed at Magnus' apparant TOTAL lack of part in Messiah CompleX? Never!

Add to that the total lack of a part in Endangered Species.

[Hi-Fi]

Seven days.

And then Samara kills you.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

He doesn't need to be the integeral part of MC. The lead up to Uncanny #500 and his impact at that point will be just as interesting and will be BIGGER than the stories we are getting now.

[brundlefly]

Until they can think of an excuse to continue shoving him to the rear of the X-Universe until they can think of something useful for him to do?

Who, me? Still annoyed at Magnus' apparant TOTAL lack of part in Messiah CompleX? Never!

Eh, I'd prefer he sit on the bench as opposed to being used poorly (i.e. that "Joseph" nonsense, "Eve of Destruction," "Planet X," etc.). I'll wait as long as it takes if it results in a good Magneto story and not another poorly-written debacle.

[jmc247]

Eh, I'd prefer he sit on the bench as opposed to being used poorly (i.e. that "Joseph" nonsense, "Eve of Destruction," "Planet X," etc.). I'll wait as long as it takes if it results in a good Magneto story and not another poorly-written debacle.

What is funny is how many da** Magneto stories over the years have been retconned out of existance starting with what was later retconned into a robo-Magneto. Odd that there are robots with auras of evil.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/Magd.jpg

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Magneto was used perfectly in Son of M and has been regretful since his family turned on him in House of M #7. Now...once his status is revealed and he makes his next move in regards to mutantkind's future, as it's indicated, he will be right back on his way to being the epicenter of the X-verse all over again. After all, without Magneto, this whole thing wouldn't be what it is.

[Magneto Rocks]

When is the last great Magneto epic though? Or even big, GOOD Magneto story? Have we even HAD a major Magneto story which didn't totally suck since Fatal Attractions? (I'm not counting House of M as it wasn't REALLY a Magneto story.)

[Mitteloss]

He'll most likely be back for Messiah Complex, by the time the current Uncanny arc ends. After the crossover, he will most likely stay around until #500.

I hope Polaris will be back in time to re-unite with him and confront him about a few important things.

[brundlefly]

When is the last great Magneto epic though? Or even big, GOOD Magneto story? Have we even HAD a major Magneto story which didn't totally suck since Fatal Attractions? (I'm not counting House of M as it wasn't REALLY a Magneto story.)

Last GREAT story? X-MEN #1-3 back in 1991.

Last GOOD story? I enjoyed some parts of Fatal Attractions (like X-Men #25). His role in Age of Apocalypse as leader of the X-Men versus Apocalypse and company was pretty cool, even though it was essentially just an alternate-universe story. And "The Magneto War" was pretty good, if only for rubbing out that loser Joseph, reestablishing the real Magneto with all his memories and whatnot, and setting up the potentially awesome status of Mags as ruler of Genosha at the end. Also, like Erik noted, Magneto was written well in Son of M, as well as a few parts of House of M (the first issue in his scene with Pietro, as well as the FF mini).

And, uhm, that's about it. Left over is the crap (the aforementioned Eve of Destruction, the too-long "Joseph" storyarc, Planet X, most of House of M). Again, I'd rather see Mags join other great "in-limbo" characters (such as the original Hobgoblin over in Spider-Man) until a quality writer has a good idea for him than have him return sooner for yet another unreadable fiasco at the hands of a hack.

[Phil Hunn]

And, uhm, that's about it. Left over is the crap (the aforementioned Eve of Destruction, the too-long "Joseph" storyarc, Planet X, most of House of M). Again, I'd rather see Mags join other great "in-limbo" characters (such as the original Hobgoblin over in Spider-Man) until a quality writer has a good idea for him than have him return sooner for yet another unreadable fiasco at the hands of a hack.


Ah yes, the original Hobgoblin, brought back to be a bargain-basement Norman Osborn and then cast into limbo almost indefinitely, whereas Jason Macendale had a far more regular starring role as the Hobgoblin, and a far more original gimmick. Stupid Marvel :mad:

And hey, Eve Of Destruction wasn't all bad. If nothing else, it had Magneto get himself a sweet new costume and crucify Xavier - and the story's title was somewhat appropriate, too, coming as it did before the X-Books' Dark Age...

[Archer]

Who, me? Still annoyed at Magnus' apparant TOTAL lack of part in Messiah CompleX? Never!

But it makes a lot more sense for the character to bring him back in a nicely numbered anniversay issue, than in a story that might have some personal relevance to who he is and what his goals are!

No? No?

Aside from a few scenes in Excalibur, House of M, and Son of M he hasn't done anything I want to re-read in a looooong time, so I guess I can live with waiting till 500, so long as 500 is actually a good story with Magneto well used.

[Dagger]

Seven days.

And then Samara kills you.
This made me LOL and shoot soda outta my NOSE!!!!

[DDM]

When is the last great Magneto epic though? Or even big, GOOD Magneto story? Have we even HAD a major Magneto story which didn't totally suck since Fatal Attractions? (I'm not counting House of M as it wasn't REALLY a Magneto story.)

I second Brundlefly's X-Men #1-3 (1991) for the last great Magneto story.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

When is the last great Magneto epic though? Or even big, GOOD Magneto story? Have we even HAD a major Magneto story which didn't totally suck since Fatal Attractions? (I'm not counting House of M as it wasn't REALLY a Magneto story.)

Magneto War and him attaining Genosha was a good story. The Twelve stuff was average but not for him. He was key to the point where Apocalypse couldn't absorb Nate Grey and had to settle for Cyclops. He got his own limited in 2000 with Dark Seduction and alongside the Doom mini, was probably the best books that year. The Eve Of Destruction stuff was decent but it ended in usual Super Wolverine fashion. And he's pretty been a "grey" guy ever since. The Morrison debacle was immediately retconned because Marvel quickly realized, that despite Morrison's belief to the contrary, Magneto's name isn't the Red Skull. So they brought him back in '04 and he had a gray area run with team Genosha. He hasn't said much dialogue since except for the FF: House of M run. He was the voice of reason in Son of M. His New Avengers apperance was to keep fans guessing when he would next pop up again. Of course during all of that, stories in the main titles have been pretty mediocre though.

As for X-Men #1-3? That's not just some great Magneto story. It's probably the last great/classic X-story since his origin issues in the 80s came to the surface.

[DDM]

What is funny is how many da** Magneto stories over the years have been retconned out of existance starting with what was later retconned into a robo-Magneto. Odd that there are robots with auras of evil.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f132/jmc247/Magd.jpg

Mesmero was fooled as the "Magneto" is shown to be a robot in X-Men #58 when Mesmero was kidnapped by Sentinels as the "Magneto" literally fell apart; therefore, Lorna Dane--who has never been around other mutants--is easily fooled too.

I would not say this is a retcon given the amount of time between the initial storyline in X-Men #49-52 to the Sentinel storyline in X-Men #58. Furthermore, Magneto appears again in X-Men #62-63 & shown without his helmet for the first time to the point Angel does not recognize the master of magnetism.

[rZi]

I voted three...it feels like he's been gone long and this can't go on much longer..he's like most peoples faviroute x-villian (if he's considered that anymore)

[DDM]

I just hope Hunt for Magneto is not a repeat of Hunt for Xavier.

[jmc247]

Mesmero was fooled as the "Magneto" is shown to be a robot in X-Men #58 when Mesmero was kidnapped by Sentinels as the "Magneto" literally fell apart; therefore, Lorna Dane--who has never been around other mutants--is easily fooled too.


So you are saying a robot can have an aura of evil?

Bullcrap. The writers would have never put that in there if they intended when they wrote it for Magneto to be a robot. I am sure they decided sometime thereafter to retcon Magneto into being a robot. But, nothing you can say can convince me the writers didn't intend for that to be the real Magneto when they first wrote X-men 50.

Besides Polaris can read electromagnetic auras. When the X-Men were in Arcade's Murderworld Polaris could tell right off Scott and Jean were robots because she can see their electromagnetic aura.

[DDM]

So you are saying a robot can have an aura of evil?

Yes. Ultron has an "aura of evil" given he wants mankind destroyed. And he's very much a robot.

Likewise, this "Magneto" robot was built by the Machinesmith, an expert in making humanoid robots.

Besides Polaris can read electromagnetic auras. When the X-Men were in Arcade's Murderworld Polaris could tell right off Scott and Jean were robots because she can see their electromagnetic aura.

Polaris learned to read electromagnetic auras after training with Xavier & the X-Men; in X-Men #49-52, she just had her powers activated & learned she is a latent mutant.

[jmc247]

Yes. Ultron has an "aura of evil" given he wants mankind destroyed.

There are murderous robots in Marvel, but nowhere have I ever heard Ultron or any of the other of the many killer robots we have seen having an 'aura of evil'. I stand by my assertation that the writers would not have written that had they not intended that to be the real Magneto when they wrote it.

[ibrakeforchinwe]

As long as they can drag it out. If they could drag out that Uncanny Shi'ar arc for a year they can drag this out too...

[Erik Lehnsherr]

What happened to Magneto's robot Ferris from Magneto War? I never followed up on him after the Magneto Rex series started up. He just disappeared.

[BAYANI98]

You Magneto stormtrooper fanboys/fangirls are just too pathetic even beyond the point of pity. It is your pathological obsession-compulsion with Marville's answer to Sephiroth, above and beyond all other fanatic character cult followings, that has ruined indeed the X-books for general audiences, perhaps permanently, by trapping it forever in an eternal loop of enervating ennui, dooming it to superflous redundancy with the maddening repetitiousness of this disgustingly cliched ideological conflict.

[Karl H]

How many months until Uncanny #500?

that was my answer

[Erik Lehnsherr]

You Magneto stormtrooper fanboys/fangirls are just too pathetic even beyond the point of pity. It is your pathological obsession-compulsion with Marville's answer to Sephiroth, above and beyond all other fanatic character cult followings, that has ruined indeed the X-books for general audiences, perhaps permanently, by trapping it forever in an eternal loop of enervating ennui, dooming it to superflous redundancy with the maddening repetitiousness of this disgustingly cliched ideological conflict.


If not for Magneto, this whole board really wouldn't even exist.

[Magneto Rocks]

You Magneto stormtrooper fanboys/fangirls are just too pathetic even beyond the point of pity. It is your pathological obsession-compulsion with Marville's answer to Sephiroth, above and beyond all other fanatic character cult followings, that has ruined indeed the X-books for general audiences, perhaps permanently, by trapping it forever in an eternal loop of enervating ennui, dooming it to superflous redundancy with the maddening repetitiousness of this disgustingly cliched ideological conflict.


...Grant Morrison?

[jmc247]

You Magneto stormtrooper fanboys/fangirls are just too pathetic even beyond the point of pity. It is your pathological obsession-compulsion with Marville's answer to Sephiroth, above and beyond all other fanatic character cult followings, that has ruined indeed the X-books for general audiences, perhaps permanently, by trapping it forever in an eternal loop of enervating ennui, dooming it to superflous redundancy with the maddening repetitiousness of this disgustingly cliched ideological conflict.

Wolverine manages to be on several series at the same time with his own book and more and yet the other X-character that is getting his own movie hasn't been anywhere in the 616 the past year and still some people complain.

[Oneguy]

You Magneto stormtrooper fanboys/fangirls are just too pathetic even beyond the point of pity. It is your pathological obsession-compulsion with Marville's answer to Sephiroth, above and beyond all other fanatic character cult followings, that has ruined indeed the X-books for general audiences, perhaps permanently, by trapping it forever in an eternal loop of enervating ennui, dooming it to superflous redundancy with the maddening repetitiousness of this disgustingly cliched ideological conflict.

who is Sephiroth?

[brundlefly]

You Magneto stormtrooper fanboys/fangirls are just too pathetic even beyond the point of pity. It is your pathological obsession-compulsion with Marville's answer to Sephiroth, above and beyond all other fanatic character cult followings, that has ruined indeed the X-books for general audiences, perhaps permanently, by trapping it forever in an eternal loop of enervating ennui, dooming it to superflous redundancy with the maddening repetitiousness of this disgustingly cliched ideological conflict.

You misspelled "Marvel," genius. :rolleyes: Might should have put down the dictionary that you were pulling all those big-boy words from and used spell-check.

...Grant Morrison?

That was my first guess, too. What with the pretentious tone and all....

[Brian M.]

I really did like the big words at the end. Made me appreciate all the words I studied for the GRE.

[jarrod]

You Magneto stormtrooper fanboys/fangirls are just too pathetic even beyond the point of pity. It is your pathological obsession-compulsion with Marville's answer to Sephiroth, above and beyond all other fanatic character cult followings, that has ruined indeed the X-books for general audiences, perhaps permanently, by trapping it forever in an eternal loop of enervating ennui, dooming it to superflous redundancy with the maddening repetitiousness of this disgustingly cliched ideological conflict.
Well, as much as I loved Morrison's run, it *really* was just regurgitated stories with a wonderfully glossy coat of modernity. Something of a love letter to all us growed up Claremont stormtroopers. Arguing against status quo might have more weight if your own sacred cow wasn't actually wallowing in nostalgia.

[Taskmaster]

...Grant Morrison?

My thoughts exactly:D

[BAYANI98]

No, I deliberately spelled it as "Marville" instead of Marvel, it stopped being Marvel for me, and has degenerated into Marville. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then good for you, but if you ever bother to actually discover what I'm referring to, then gods help you, you will never recover....

And as for that poster who didn't know Sephiroth was, are you serious?! Saying you don't know the One-Winged Angel is like saying you don't know what Final Fantasy is, and for someone to not know about that is just not possible at all!

And just for the record, I'm not anti-Magneto, I'm just pro-evolution. Joseph and AOA Magneto remains my favorite all-time X-characters, but 616-Magneto is as Xavier put it, a tired old man, a tragically exhausting pile of fundamentally damaged goods who should just put himself out of everyone's misery, especially his own, and finally rest in peace for the sake of the progress of the franchise...

[brundlefly]

No, I deliberately spelled it as "Marville" instead of Marvel, it stopped being Marvel for me, and has degenerated into Marville. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then good for you, but if you ever bother to actually discover what I'm referring to, then gods help you, you will never recover....

Uhhh....okay.....:confused: This have something to do with that "Marville" book Bill Jemas wrote in the early 2000s? I skipped that one, and certainly don't see the need to go check it out to discover why you'd use it as an alias for "Marvel."

Joseph ... remains my favorite all-time X-character

(Bill Lumberg voice): Yeeaahhh......and right there's where you lost all credibility in this discussion. :p Good day to you, sir.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

No, I deliberately spelled it as "Marville" instead of Marvel, it stopped being Marvel for me, and has degenerated into Marville. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then good for you, but if you ever bother to actually discover what I'm referring to, then gods help you, you will never recover....

And as for that poster who didn't know Sephiroth was, are you serious?! Saying you don't know the One-Winged Angel is like saying you don't know what Final Fantasy is, and for someone to not know about that is just not possible at all!

And just for the record, I'm not anti-Magneto, I'm just pro-evolution. Joseph and AOA Magneto remains my favorite all-time X-characters, but 616-Magneto is as Xavier put it, a tired old man, a tragically exhausting pile of fundamentally damaged goods who should just put himself out of everyone's misery, especially his own, and finally rest in peace for the sake of the progress of the franchise...

Joseph was underrated but he wasn't the real Magneto. He was Magneto without a tragic past with nothing to deal with but high expectations with Rogue. AoA Magneto was attacked during a time where man's inhumanity to man hadn't consumed his soul yet. It wasn't the real him. But 616 Magneto? His family died prematurely because of the ignorance of a dictator and his beliefs. His daughter was killed because of humans attacking him after his power showcase. These things molded 616 Magneto. There's more facets to him than any X-Man in history. Including Xavier. He's the real core of why the X-Men are what they are. A man who experienced things not even Captain America could dare to imagine on his worst day.

[Jmacq1]

I do find it horribly amusing that someone can call Magneto "Marvel's answer to Sephiroth" when Magneto was invented oh, about three decades before Sephiroth was even a concept drawing.

[BAYANI98]

This have something to do with that "Marville" book Bill Jemas wrote in the early 2000s? I skipped that one, and certainly don't see the need to go check it out to discover why you'd use it as an alias for "Marvel."


Bill Jemas was the Big Boss of Marvel for a while, and his vanity project for me is the perfect example of the current state of quality of the books his company publishes today :( ...

I do find it horribly amusing that someone can call Magneto "Marvel's answer to Sephiroth" when Magneto was invented oh, about three decades before Sephiroth was even a concept drawing.

Well, how many other silver-haired villainous pretty-boy fanbait does Marvel have anyway?:p

]Joseph was underrated but he wasn't the real Magneto.

Yeah, he was better. Joseph coulda/woulda/shoulda been better had they not retconned him into NOT being Magneto, and ruined what was on it's way to becoming the best "second chances"-type story in the X-books since AOA Victor Creed. To me, he is, as Quicksilver told him in the Magneto War One-Shot, " The man that we all wish my father had been " .:mad:

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Yeah but even he was the real Magneto, once the truth would of come out, they would of all been dead to rights anyway.

[SnakeEater]

Ah yes, the original Hobgoblin, brought back to be a bargain-basement Norman Osborn and then cast into limbo almost indefinitely, whereas Jason Macendale had a far more regular starring role as the Hobgoblin, and a far more original gimmick. Stupid Marvel :mad:

And hey, Eve Of Destruction wasn't all bad. If nothing else, it had Magneto get himself a sweet new costume and crucify Xavier - and the story's title was somewhat appropriate, too, coming as it did before the X-Books' Dark Age...

Dark ages? I think everything that came out after the first movie and before Morrisons period was crap. Morrisons period was what made me love X-men while Uncanny and Xtreme were making me wonder why the hell i was still around. Milligan killed X-men for me and honestly Claremont is boring as all hell. I wish i could have read him in his prime but considering what i hear on the boards about how alot of his plots are still dangling, im glad i dont know any of his old stuff.

[Jake V]

Bill Jemas was the Big Boss of Marvel for a while, and his vanity project for me is the perfect example of the current state of quality of the books his company publishes today :( ...
Uh, you're aware that Jemas hasn't worked for Marvel for the past like, 5 years, right?

[BAYANI98]

Quesada is still around, and he was one-half of Quemas!

[brundlefly]

Bill Jemas was the Big Boss of Marvel for a while, and his vanity project for me is the perfect example of the current state of quality of the books his company publishes today


Uh, you're aware that Jemas hasn't worked for Marvel for the past like, 5 years, right?

Quesada is still around, and he was one-half of Quemas!

Yeah, I still don't see how any of this Jemas/Quesada/"Marville" business supports your absurd theorem that Joseph The Emo Amnesiac Clone Boy is somehow superior to the very character that he was cloned from. Since when is a mediocre cover band better than the original? That's certainly not "evolution," as you put it. Yours is an an indefensible argument to begin with.



Ah yes, the original Hobgoblin, brought back to be a bargain-basement Norman Osborn and then cast into limbo almost indefinitely, whereas Jason Macendale had a far more regular starring role as the Hobgoblin, and a far more original gimmick. Stupid Marvel

Jason Macendale was a life-long D-Lister and a complete disgrace to the Hobgoblin legacy. There was nothing "original" about him and his gimmick was that he was a loser trying to live up to the reputation of the truly formidable original Hobgoblin (Kingsley). Wow, what a great gimmick. Thank God Roger Stern returned to put that idiot six feet under (where he belongs) and to try to repair all the damage done to the Hobgoblin character since he left the Spidey books.