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Jack Flash
06-25-2007, 06:08 PM
The X-men have some cool "Team" baddies

The Marauders
The Acolytes
The Morlocks
The Brotherhood
Freedom Force
The Horsemen
The Riders on the Storm
The Reavers
MLF! OMG!
Even the Upstarts.

but Big Bads are kinda hard to come by....

It's Apocalypse
It's Mister Sinister
It's Magneto
It's Shadow King
and recently it's Casssandra Nova

That's pretty much it...

so who should step up and be a Big Bad to rival those 5?

1) Masque
2) Bastion
3) The Vanisher
4) Emplate
5) Sublime
6) Dark Beast
7) Frenzy (Rarr!)
8) Quicksilver
9) Sauron
10) Other?

If it's other please explain who and why?!

ToxicTeen
06-25-2007, 06:14 PM
I would say Selene cause she's been known to cause trouble for the X-Men and other mutant teams. ;) Though she's more of a "look out for #1" villain(I mean she only looks for ways to become more powerful though I don't think she ever wanted to rule the world. I dunno, I don't read much of the old comics) than a "I want to rule the world" villain.

Polarity
06-25-2007, 06:26 PM
A new one? The ones you suggested don't seem a big bad.
Bastion was a big bad, but because he had a backing from S.H.I.E.L.D.

I really dont' know who. A MU villain maybe?

Brett P
06-25-2007, 06:27 PM
ME!

Or Quicksilver.

Dazzler
06-25-2007, 06:30 PM
I voted Masque because what made me love the character after years and years of seeing him around was him being a sadist marilyn monroe tranny.

and that was about it for x-treme for me. ;)

---Dazz

Canemacar
06-25-2007, 06:32 PM
I'd like to see Selene step up and be one of the major villains and for Sinister to eclipse Apocalypse as ubervillian #2.

Joe Zool
06-25-2007, 06:33 PM
It'd be nice to see Bastion again...under Mike Carey. (eek, that sounds dirty! :eek: ) I mean written by, naturally.

Monty_Cristo
06-25-2007, 06:41 PM
Shortpack ....................

Brian M.
06-25-2007, 06:43 PM
The Vanisher. #1 introduced Magneto...he stuck...poor Vanisher hasn't done crap.

jarrod
06-25-2007, 06:52 PM
The Hellfire Club.

Lord Imperial: Roberto DaCoasta (getting riskier and more morally ambigious, slowly being eroded by Bogan)
Black King: Sebastian Shaw (navigating the waters, trying not to lose power)
Black Queen: Selene (out for revenge with her own band of New Hellions, targeting Emma first)
White King: James Braddock (now sane and not wandering around in his undies, hungry for power)
White Queen: Meggan Braddock (off balance and scary as hell, total psycho-bitch! She gets to snap Courtney's neck)

DDM
06-25-2007, 07:02 PM
The Hellfire Club

Wild Card13
06-25-2007, 07:37 PM
I agree that we need a Hellfire Club that isn't just a bunch of mental projections, and I want to see Shaw at the head of it again, or at least pulling some strings.

If it has to be just one guy, I say Quicksilver. He's the most intriguing one right now, but PAD is doing such a great job with him in X-Factor.

sephirothskiller
06-25-2007, 07:41 PM
I do not enjoy the term "big bad." I feel that it is limiting to the character to whom it is applied. In order to be an antagonist one must not necessarily be a "big bad."

And I vote for Selene.

rilokyle
06-25-2007, 07:46 PM
I'm going to jump on the Selene train for this one. She's pretty damn powerful- I'd like to know what she's been up to lately.

Brett P
06-25-2007, 07:47 PM
I'm going to jump on the Selene train for this one. She's pretty damn powerful- I'd like to know what she's been up to lately.

Wither, probably :D

Nyssane
06-25-2007, 08:15 PM
None of those villains.

Masque never thinks "big" enough to be a Big Bad.

Bastion has been there and done that.

The Vanisher is lame, and I think he got depowered.

Emplate... never read much with him, honestly.

Sublime is an awful villain.

Dark Beast is not a big enough threat.

Frenzy is a follower, not a leader.

Quicksilver might be a good candidate, taking over Magneto's legacy.

Sauron is pathetic and not a big threat.

I definitely think they should take a pre-existing female villain and turn her into a major villainess. Selene might work, but the whole concept of her character is so ridiculous, the last thing we need is another "oldest mutant ever" running around trying to be badass. Not to mention her fashion sense is apalling. They should take someone like Spiral, Phantazia, or Tarot and turn them into something big. Spiral is appealing and has mystical powers, and she could definitely create some problems for the X-Men. Phantazia's powers are insane, and now that she is, I could see her posing a huge threat to the X-Men. Tarot's powers have never been explained, and I think the mystique behind them might make her quite a "big bad."

They could also bring back someone with devastating powers, like Siena Blaze, and turn them into a big bad. Think of Nitro during Civil War, only female and less worried about her own survival.

rwsmith
06-25-2007, 08:18 PM
I voted other because Vulcan wasn't an option. This guy was basically created to be the next "big bad" for the X-men, wasn't he?

Jack Flash
06-25-2007, 08:27 PM
damn me for forgetting freaking Selene. I chose loser-ish villians, cuz I was hoping someone would step up and grow from mort to big bad. Sienna Blaze is a freaking excellent idea! Go Nyssy! you should do these polls instead of me!

I left Vulcan off cuz he's in space.

Siddon
06-25-2007, 09:02 PM
I'd like to see Ahab show up again, I always dug the design and the transition of Rory in Excalibur. I would love it if Ahab were to be revealed behind the Grey massacre.

jester1436
06-25-2007, 09:10 PM
Poor Dead Angry Lesbian Siena. :( Poor Crazy Ass Depowered Phantazia. :( Poor Bizarre Co-Dependent Resurrection Depowered Tarot. :(

I like Selene's tacky dominatrix wear, although I do like her 70s Cher/Morticia Addams look as well.

Exodus could be a "big bad" if he applied himself. Rejected whatever his current philosophies are and develop his own for dark and twisty pink villain goodness.

Maybe that ho Strobe can return and give the X-Men some big bad herpes?

Faded
06-25-2007, 09:12 PM
Quicksilver, no question current spoilers notwithstanding! Pick up X-Factor! :D

Whether or not Decimation is reversed, this guy could create his own army of "mutants"--and they could die after they serve Pietro's purpose without him batting an eye (or even knowing about it). It brings together some Apocalypse (survival of the fittest), a little bit of Magneto ideology (he's doing it for his people), and a little bit of an exciting new twist to the mutant mythos.

Or Vanisher could show up with his crazy squirrel were-wolve things.

Erik Lehnsherr
06-25-2007, 09:13 PM
Now that Sinister is about to get the spotlight I've been asking for since 2003 and Exodus getting that spotlight as well, I wouldn't mind Sebastian Shaw, the Inner Circle, and Dark Beast getting a HUGE push for the second half of '08.

jarrod
06-25-2007, 09:15 PM
I'd like to see Ahab show up again, I always dug the design and the transition of Rory in Excalibur. I would love it if Ahab were to be revealed behind the Grey massacre.
We never really saw the whole transition... could make for a good story.

Hell, have Rory become Ahab and form a band of new Reavers. If the Marauders can make a comeback...

Omega Alpha
06-25-2007, 09:33 PM
Quicksilver and Selene.

Matthew K.
06-26-2007, 12:06 AM
Faded summed up Quicksliver pretty aptly.

I'd like to see the Hellfire Club rise to power. Shaw & Selene can lead, along with a new group of reject/expelled kids from Xaviers as minions (Wither included). While I'd like to see this come to pass, I think it'd work best as a "slow build" type of thing as I don't want it to come out of left field/feel forced & I don't see it working right now in terms of where the books are at (although it could work in New X-Men right now after Magik wraps).

A not-very-important sidenote:: I felt may be something was in the works with CC attempt to show what was going on there with Courtney Ross, Viper, Sunfire & a wicked powerful Selene ghosting away in the basement...but then it got topsy turby with an Astonishing X-Men Hellfire storyline/non-storyline...ehh whatever. "We can rebuild it..."


ehh...there's always the Hydra to attack if the X-Men get bored enough

Karl H
06-26-2007, 02:42 AM
The Vanisher. #1 introduced Magneto...he stuck...poor Vanisher hasn't done crap.

Ditto.

Vanisher was going interesting places under Casey. I'd like to see him as a behind the scenes type big bad with his fingers in all the pies a la the Kingpin or Linderman from Heroes.

North-Star
06-26-2007, 02:47 AM
Give Lady Mastermind a powerpush, and she'l be amazing I see a grand X-future for her (under Mike Careys wing that is...)

Throw Dark-Beast into a Dark Pit

What's a Bastion?

Masque...hmmmm...

Is Emplate the guy from New Mutants? The one Magma got all freaked out about in the 198? He could be an interesting villain..

I don't want to sound to Claremontish, but Villains who can control feelings/brains/dna are awesome...

But for now I'm in bliss by the (new) Marauders, they are gonna be big bad ass evil hell!!! Gambid+Sinister+Lady M (The Troijka of Death, without Gaspowers)!!!

North-Star
06-26-2007, 02:55 AM
Sorry I meant Empath....

That Emplate-thing looks gross, but heey they killed off Mammomax so we do need new gross villains...

*Running to the comic-store right now to read up on gross mutant villains named Emplate*

Fixx
06-26-2007, 05:39 AM
Emplate

as a die hard Gen X fan I thought he woulda made more appearances cause he was totally bad ass!! the first issue he practically gutted husk... and with so few mutants left having one crazy bad ass mutant runnin around tryin to "eat" whats left of the few remaining ones the X-men would have to take notice... plus we'd prob get to see Penance again(the real one, not the crap version in thunderbolts)

Jack Flash
06-26-2007, 06:18 AM
i like Emplate. I'd like M to get a push this year and finally deal with her evil brother.

Ahab is another I forgot totally about, but he's a good choice especially if Rachel were back on Earth.

Charybdis4
06-26-2007, 06:32 AM
Has to be Selene & new revamped Hellfire Club.

Get rid of Sunspot, he doesn't work in that group & I'd like to see him back with Sam, Dani, Karma etc.

We need a seriously powerful Hellfire Club:

BLACK KING - Shaw
BLACK QUEEN - Selene
WHITE KING - Quicksilver
WHITE QUEEN - Magma (Yes, she hates Selene, but the way she's been screwed around of late may have changed her outlook)

BISHOPS - Empath & Tarot (bring her back!!!)

Having said that I like the idea a previous poster made of Meggan Braddock as the White Queen......

jarrod
06-26-2007, 06:39 AM
Oh, Quicksilver makes for a great White King... add him and Meggan to Shaw and Selene and it's perfect!

I still want Bobby as Lord Imperial tho, still slowly corrupting...

Charybdis4
06-26-2007, 06:42 AM
Methinks Bobby would probably want to be the new White Queen rather than Lord Imperial. I can just see him checking himself out in the mirror in the HC basque & stockings!!!!

jarrod
06-26-2007, 07:11 AM
Too much Bogan can do that to ya.

"Shaw baby, does this harness make me look faaaaat?"

Charybdis4
06-26-2007, 07:20 AM
Too much Bogan can do that to ya.

"Shaw baby, does this harness make me look faaaaat?"

You do realise that you have now given Bobby the perfect excuse if he's ever caught in any of the X-ladies wardrobes...

"It was Bogan, he made me do it! He made me put on Ororo's tiara & Betsy's ninja-thong - HONEST SCOTT, HONEST!!!!!!"

Dagger
06-26-2007, 08:16 AM
The Hellfire Club.

Lord Imperial: Roberto DaCoasta (getting riskier and more morally ambigious, slowly being eroded by Bogan)
Black King: Sebastian Shaw (navigating the waters, trying not to lose power)
Black Queen: Selene (out for revenge with her own band of New Hellions, targeting Emma first)
White King: James Braddock (now sane and not wandering around in his undies, hungry for power)
White Queen: Meggan Braddock (off balance and scary as hell, total psycho-bitch! She gets to snap Courtney's neck)
I agree with everyone except Bobby. I hated that development from Claremont's last Uncanny run.

And I wanna see both BASTION and EMPLATE to return!!!!!!!!! Damn you, Jed!

Jack Flash
06-26-2007, 09:10 AM
And I wanna see both BASTION and EMPLATE to return!!!!!!!!! Damn you, Jed!

sorry! but so do I! I like the Vanisher too!

Diablito
06-26-2007, 09:51 AM
I miss Sauron :(

jcp011c
06-26-2007, 05:22 PM
As I always say in these threads, Selene has the power to become an A-list foe. My vote goes to her.

Jack Flash
06-27-2007, 07:20 PM
gah. I feel like a failure. Selene has won this damn poll and she wasn't even in my top 9. I suck at life.

Faded
06-27-2007, 07:47 PM
gah. I feel like a failure. Selene has won this damn poll and she wasn't even in my top 9. I suck at life.

This is what makes us D-List.

Embrace it.

Chiasm
06-27-2007, 09:14 PM
Lady Mastermind. I love her character but she never really should have been an X-man.

She can do all kinds of nasty things with her powers and in a good writers hands she could do massive damage.

Jack Flash
08-27-2007, 09:07 AM
a suprising amount of love coming to Bastion of all folks!

what about a traditional Non-X baddy? Like Count Nefaria? With James on a squad, you'd think he'd want to take on the guy who killed his brother!

The_Bubblie
08-27-2007, 09:22 AM
Cyclops. He needs to break away from Emma, take off the visor, and in a fit of rage level everything and everyone around him.

Brian M.
08-27-2007, 09:23 AM
Vulcan needs to be the next big bad villian.

Matthew K.
08-27-2007, 09:56 AM
I miss Sauron :(

I was saddened when he got shot in the head in New Avengers. He's a sympathetic villain (...even if he is a little pathetic).

caney
08-27-2007, 10:00 AM
I loves me some evil Quicksilver! He should take over from pops as the main baddy.

Omega Alpha
08-27-2007, 01:21 PM
Quicksilver, Pietro Maximoff, Magneto's crazy son and Wanda's Brother/Lover.

rwsmith
08-27-2007, 01:35 PM
Romulus, baby. Romulus.;)

Seriously, though, I'd like to see something like what Brian Bendis is doing with the Hood right now in New Avengers. Take a henchman or lesser known villain and have him or her start up a new version of the Brotherhood and become a major threat. Toad could be a good choice. Doesn't he now have the ability to control people with his secretions or something like that?

Vulgar
08-27-2007, 04:24 PM
Dark beast could be a real bad ass with the right writer. Now we know Xavier had him working on corpses in Genosha. There's gotta be more to the situation then that, no telling what he could've discoverd.

Novaya Havoc
08-27-2007, 04:51 PM
It should be SPIRAL. 100%, Mojo-free, Spiral. Pure eeeeevil Spiral, for she is wicked.

But then I will make a Spiral appreciation thread and discuss that she is a noble spirit because she gave Psylocke new eyes.

But I still maintain SPIRAL.

jester1436
08-27-2007, 05:06 PM
I would love for there to be a decent female big bad. Dark Phoenix doesn't really count, because there's pretty much only one Dark Phoenix story. Cassandra Nova isn't the lingering threat that Apocalypse, Magneto, or Sinister have been, and I don't really see her being a villain that crosses over quite like the others.

Spiral or Selene would totally fit the role perfectly, depending on how the writer works them and what their goals are.

Novaya Havoc
08-27-2007, 05:15 PM
I prefer Spiral or even Phantazia to Selene because they have cooler visuals.

Spiral has a fantastic character visual, which is why I think she'd work better than Selene.

YMMV.

jester1436
08-27-2007, 05:26 PM
Selene needs a tiara and some less dominatrix looking leather gear.

Flight
08-27-2007, 05:28 PM
DoOoOoOop!

otipep_90
08-27-2007, 05:35 PM
The Imperial Hellfire Club!!!

Yeah thats right, not just the regular Hellfireclub but an ancient Hellfire Club made up of xternals and ancient entities!

Lord Imperial: Sunspot possed by Bogan
Imperial Black King: Vargus (xternal and ancient as selene, possible brother/ lover)
Imperial Black Queen: Selene
Imperial Black Rook: Madelyne Pryor
Imperial Black Warrior Princes: amnesiatic Nate Grey/X-Man, reassembled after m-day and has been taken care off by Madelyne who treats him as her 10 year old son, to make up for tring to kill Nathan in Inferno.
Imperial White King: James Sublime possed by sublime entity (relative of John sublime since he died?)
Imperial White Queen: Nurse Annie possed by Cassandra Nova
Imperial White Warrior Princes: Carter Ghazikhanian pupil of Cassandra
Imperial White Rook: Spiral

Nyssane
08-27-2007, 05:39 PM
I prefer Spiral or even Phantazia to Selene because they have cooler visuals.

Spiral has a fantastic character visual, which is why I think she'd work better than Selene.

YMMV.

Spiral, definitely, needs to branch away from lame ass Mojo and become an A-List villain. She's got the power, the look, everyfin n' everyfin. Plus, the bitch was SO BADASS in Marvel vs. Capcom 2! :D

Phantazia also is mysterious enough to become a great A-Lister. They could easily take any of the lesser-known female villains and buff them into huge adversaries for the X-Men. Selene just isn't appealing, in my opinion. The fact that she's the oldest mutant is just lame, not to mention her slutty outfit leaves very little to the imagination. Whereas Spiral and Phantazia have infinitely interesting looks.

Novaya Havoc
08-27-2007, 05:45 PM
Spiral, definitely, needs to branch away from lame ass Mojo and become an A-List villain. She's got the power, the look, everyfin n' everyfin. Plus, the bitch was SO BADASS in Marvel vs. Capcom 2! :D

Phantazia also is mysterious enough to become a great A-Lister. They could easily take any of the lesser-known female villains and buff them into huge adversaries for the X-Men. Selene just isn't appealing, in my opinion. The fact that she's the oldest mutant is just lame, not to mention her slutty outfit leaves very little to the imagination. Whereas Spiral and Phantazia have infinitely interesting looks.

*licks your face in the ancient nonverbal gesture of AGREEMENT*

Gene M.
08-27-2007, 05:53 PM
I always liked Bastion. He had a decent premise, and the initial execution was cool. Things got a little goofy near the end, though.

Dagger
08-27-2007, 06:53 PM
Spiral, definitely, needs to branch away from lame ass Mojo and become an A-List villain. She's got the power, the look, everyfin n' everyfin. Plus, the bitch was SO BADASS in Marvel vs. Capcom 2! :D

Phantazia also is mysterious enough to become a great A-Lister. They could easily take any of the lesser-known female villains and buff them into huge adversaries for the X-Men. Selene just isn't appealing, in my opinion. The fact that she's the oldest mutant is just lame, not to mention her slutty outfit leaves very little to the imagination. Whereas Spiral and Phantazia have infinitely interesting looks.
Spiral and Fantasia should join a new Freedom Force! With a revived Pyro, repowered Blob(or get Pink Pearl to fill in his role, or both, and Blob could get a GF), and Avalanche! Ooh, and maybe some of the Acolytes could join Mystique's lil troup like Gargouille, and Vindaloo!!

Nyssane
08-27-2007, 07:00 PM
Spiral and Fantasia should join a new Freedom Force! With a revived Pyro, repowered Blob(or get Pink Pearl to fill in his role, or both, and Blob could get a GF), and Avalanche! Ooh, and maybe some of the Acolytes could join Mystique's lil troup like Gargouille, and Vindaloo!!

Fantasia's one of the Supreme Soviets (also known as Fantasma). Phantazia is the Brotherhood chica.[/ddm]

Gibbering Fool
08-27-2007, 07:06 PM
I voted Other, because I definitely would love to see Selene step up as a Big Bad, rather that the bitchy manipulator who seems to show up from time to time and mess around with the X-kids ratehr than the grown ups.

Vulcan's definitely on the road to series villainhood but he needs a real motive beyond "I had a messed up childhood"

Dagger
08-27-2007, 07:06 PM
Fantasia's one of the Supreme Soviets (also known as Fantasma). Phantazia is the Brotherhood chica.[/ddm]
Gah! I am slow! I knew that! Kick me in the slats!

Jack Flash
02-26-2008, 06:44 AM
Bastion's Making a Comeback!

eurazn
02-26-2008, 06:46 PM
It might be a little out of left field, but I want Shinobi Shaw to come back. Shinobi dabbled in all things [and people] decadent, what's not to love? Besides, he has major daddy issues, and it's about time he proved his worth instead of being some sort of comedic write-off.

Plus he's half asian ... represent! heh.

La Fea
02-26-2008, 06:56 PM
gah. I feel like a failure. Selene has won this damn poll and she wasn't even in my top 9. I suck at life.

Its okay, this is how I feel about her:

I definitely think they should take a pre-existing female villain and turn her into a major villainess. Selene might work, but the whole concept of her character is so ridiculous, the last thing we need is another "oldest mutant ever" running around trying to be badass.

...so you're actually right, Jack Flash!

HellFrost
02-26-2008, 07:45 PM
I think the HellFire Club needs a major comeback... and BAD! and maybe The Toad!:D

IronKing
02-26-2008, 07:49 PM
Quicksilver...people genuinely dislike his character, so that's a start. And he's always got Magneto's shoes to fill.

I'd say Dark Beast but...I don't see him having the tools to do it all by his lonesome.

CyberHubbs
02-26-2008, 08:01 PM
Masque would work in a storyline involving the younger, uninitiated mutants. What he lacks in power, he should make up for in ambition and insanity. But the older X-Men are just too experienced for the likes of him. He'd need a major plot device to get the upper hand.

I'd say Sugar Man. Put him in charge of the Marauders until Sinister's timely return to claim the position of power and prestige that belongs to him.

darknessatnoon
02-26-2008, 08:16 PM
I agree with everyone who said Spiral.

I disagree with anyone who said Sugar Man.

CyberHubbs
02-26-2008, 08:32 PM
I agree with everyone who said Spiral.

I disagree with anyone who said Sugar Man.

I will cut you.

DeniseXfrost
02-26-2008, 08:44 PM
The Hellfire Club.

Lord Imperial: Roberto DaCoasta (getting riskier and more morally ambigious, slowly being eroded by Bogan)
Black King: Sebastian Shaw (navigating the waters, trying not to lose power)
Black Queen: Selene (out for revenge with her own band of New Hellions, targeting Emma first)
White King: James Braddock (now sane and not wandering around in his undies, hungry for power)
White Queen: Meggan Braddock (off balance and scary as hell, total psycho-bitch! She gets to snap Courtney's neck)
Second this statement. Although Selene alone would be enough.

The Black Guardian
02-26-2008, 11:47 PM
Who should be the next Big Bad?

Why, the Hellfire Club, of course... including Emma.

Kage Kisaragi
02-27-2008, 05:19 AM
The X-Men need to start eliminating their threats now, while they still have mutants alive to call themselves X-Men with. No sense in waiting for the next big bad to come up with a scheme to destroy them all. Even if they do sit on their hands until the next big bad shows up, maybe they should make sure said big bad never gets the chance to try anything ever again by killing them on panel.

Lombardo!
02-27-2008, 06:49 AM
I would say Selene cause she's been known to cause trouble for the X-Men and other mutant teams. ;) Though she's more of a "look out for #1" villain(I mean she only looks for ways to become more powerful though I don't think she ever wanted to rule the world. I dunno, I don't read much of the old comics) than a "I want to rule the world" villain.

agreed, selene would be cool, seeing as they already have a plotline cooking up with her and ex New X-Men Wither

Pro
02-27-2008, 01:37 PM
I definitely think they should take a pre-existing female villain and turn her into a major villainess. Selene might work, but the whole concept of her character is so ridiculous, the last thing we need is another "oldest mutant ever" running around trying to be badass.

Selene was "the oldest mutant ever" way before Apocalypse i think, both in terms of comic book history and marvel history. Apparently she stems from the hyborian era which makes her at least 12000 years old since her archnemesis is a Conan character, Kulan Gath. Compared to Apocalypse's "mere" 6000 or so years at best Selene wins. For all we know Apocalypse is Selene's greatgreatgreatgrandchild :p.
Of course you won't hear anything about her hyborian history since Marvel doesn't have the rights to Conan anymore far as i remember.

Erik Lehnsherr
02-27-2008, 01:55 PM
Why won't continuity support the Selene history recoil though?

Pro
02-27-2008, 02:45 PM
Why won't continuity support the Selene history recoil though?

Like i said copyright issues.
Even mentioning she is from the hyborian age (Robert Howard invention) is a copyright infringement. It doesn't appear to be entirely out of the question given the recent spiderman/red sonja mini but i'm guessing each use of Conan material is a separate deal so basically they won't use it unless it ensures them making enough money to make it worth the investment.

jcp011c
02-27-2008, 09:30 PM
t i'm guessing each use of Conan material is a separate deal so basically they won't use it unless it ensures them making enough money to make it worth the investment.

Selene would make marvel tons of money. She could retroactively have hypnotised Sage into being her Xena-Gabrielle relationship in times past, and kill her off at her betrayal. The prospect of seeing Sage get trumped by Selene would probably earn her several thousand copies sold from this board's members alone.

Then she can team up with Dazzler, Frenzy, Psylocke and Storm and be the next version of the Spice Girls. That's kinda hot.

I call for a solo series, already!!!!!

The Black Guardian
02-27-2008, 11:12 PM
Like i said copyright issues.
Even mentioning she is from the hyborian age (Robert Howard invention) is a copyright infringement. It doesn't appear to be entirely out of the question given the recent spiderman/red sonja mini but i'm guessing each use of Conan material is a separate deal so basically they won't use it unless it ensures them making enough money to make it worth the investment.
They could always start referring to it as the Hyperborean Age (where Howard stole it from)... or just don't refer to it as a named age.

Jack Flash
02-16-2010, 07:42 AM
Magneto struck terror in the heart's of the X-Folk in the 70s and 80s and used to be the X-Men's be all/end all boogie man.
Apocalypse and Sinister took over for him in the 90s and were all kinds of mysterious/shiny foil covery.
Cassandra Nova took over the reins for the next decade and proved that bald is beautiful.

Who's next in the queue?

Selene? Shadow King? Sublime? Proteus? Vulcan? Miss Sinister? Or someone new?

shavoxin
02-16-2010, 07:45 AM
Magneto struck terror in the heart's of the X-Folk in the 70s and 80s and used to be the X-Men's be all/end all boogie man.
Apocalypse and Sinister took over for him in the 90s and were all kinds of mysterious/shiny foil covery.
Cassandra Nova took over the reins for the next decade and proved that bald is beautiful.

Who's next in the queue?

Selene? Shadow King? Sublime? Proteus? Vulcan? Miss Sinister? Or someone new?

I really hope they could do something more with Cassandra, though.

Jack Flash
02-16-2010, 07:50 AM
LOL, my poll choices are kind of hilarious. Masque? Sauron? REALLY?

2007 Jed was kind of stupid.

MartinRedmond
02-16-2010, 07:54 AM
Hellfire Club
The Acolytes or the MLF
Arcade
Mojo & Spiral
The Reavers
The Nu Men?
The Hand

As long as it's varied, I'm down with that MM MMH

Jack Flash
02-16-2010, 08:00 AM
Hellfire Club
The Acolytes or the MLF
Arcade
Mojo & Spiral
The Reavers
The Nu Men?
The Hand

As long as it's varied, I'm down with that MM MMH

Arcade & Mojo or Spiral are the only Single Big Bad options you listed. The rest are just teams of baddies.

NewMutant
02-16-2010, 08:03 AM
Nothing last forever...

Hellfire does.

MartinRedmond
02-16-2010, 08:07 AM
I vote for NO single big bad then.

shavoxin
02-16-2010, 08:25 AM
Nothing last forever...

Hellfire does.

Loved those lines! Coupled with the nice art and foreboding setting.

Swashbuckler
02-16-2010, 08:29 AM
Definitely Feral. Girl has got to be pissed at the X. They let Sabretooth eat her then ripped off her arm. She's gonna be feisty.

Havok83
02-16-2010, 08:57 AM
Queen Selene

jarrod
02-16-2010, 09:13 AM
I think Fraction could do a great Mojo...

jeansbff
02-16-2010, 09:34 AM
Elias Bogan. A lot of potential there and he hasn't been used since the end of x-treme x-men.

Justin K.
02-17-2010, 03:18 AM
LOL, my poll choices are kind of hilarious. Masque? Sauron? REALLY?

2007 Jed was kind of stupid.

It's funny that a lot of the choices apeared as of recently though.

nikbackm
02-17-2010, 06:05 AM
Dark Pixie.

mugiwara
02-17-2010, 07:33 AM
Somebody who's not in their Rogue gallery! I want Acts of Vengeance to be the norm!

Would be great if the X-Men fought the Troyjan.

fivebyfive
02-17-2010, 06:36 PM
I agree that the X-Men deserve either great new villains or someone outside of their usual rogue's gallery. Somebody like The Hood and his gang (although I don't care for The Hood that much, honestly) or maybe someone like Ezekiel Stane or The Red Skull would be really cool!

I'd also like to see Elias Bogan or The Children of the Vault make a comeback. Such great characters that really do deserve some more exposition!

OBrianTallent
02-17-2010, 07:32 PM
If it's got to be just one, I really dont see anyone on that list being big or bad enough to give the X-Men too much trouble. Spiral is one of the few who seem to have the brains to put anything together. I was really interested in the Sisterhood story, but it played out too quickly and the whole Maddie thing was just off. I would love to see a new Brotherhood put together and actually give the X-Men a run like they used to (but since the Claremont/Byrne days, the Brotherhood has pretty much been a joke.)
A new Hellfire Club would be cool too, if done right and not as a joke as they have been for the past decade or so. Maybe the new Inner Circle can sponsor a new Brotherhood.

Anodyne
02-18-2010, 09:58 AM
Dark Beast. He's both brilliant and ruthless.

Seresecros
02-18-2010, 09:59 AM
Evil Zombie Risque, or Evil Zombie Feral, or Evil Zombie Darkstar.

Vivica Kang
02-18-2010, 10:20 AM
Didn't Carey say The Children Of The Vault will be returning this year? The Rest of them?

ProfeZZor X
02-19-2010, 06:20 PM
I'm thinking a romance of Selene and Apocalypse might prove quite interesting. Especially if they parent a child and name it "Despair"... That would make a great anti-Hope plot device for the next few years.

Electric Version
02-19-2010, 06:37 PM
I'd love to see a re-formed the Brotherhood. Unfortunately, all the classic members are dead, de-powered or Avengers.

Monty_Cristo
02-19-2010, 07:57 PM
Shortpack. He's both brilliant and ruthless!

drownedbyimmolation
02-20-2010, 06:24 AM
Wonderman

Jail has warped him into being very anti mutant. After he kills Beast and Brand, the X-Men will have no choice but to step up.

Oh, and it would have to be old school Simon. Not gets almost killed by pumpkin bombs Simon.

Maybe Hollywood could come from the FuuUUutuUuuure.

Actually I change my mind, above would be lame.

Spiral or Unit.

Mind_Witch
02-20-2010, 06:34 AM
The "big bads" seem to be originating out of X-force as of late more than anywhere else (Selene, Bastion in Second Coming). Whilst I do appreciate that "big bads" are required, I would rather rival factions to the X-men be established.
There used to be many, such as the Hellfire Club, the Acolytes, the Marauders, the Humans and their sentinels, but now, these all seem to have gone (Acolytes) or are a shadow of their former selves and are no longer as threatening (Hellfire club), leaving a gaping void. Part of the problem also is that all mutants good or bad mostly reside on Utopia now (Magneto, Exodus, Avalanche) and the villains in their place are severely lacking (Lobe, "Bouncing Betty"). Where is Ms Sinister? That is a character barely used and one with potential to be both a "big bad" and to form a rival faction (re-establish the marauders).
Hopefully after second coming this will be fixed, as well as a return to team oriented books as opposed to a cast of hundreds.