52 Week 26 (***SPOILERS***)

[Lonewolf36]

mazingman728's spoilers from the DC Forum

Cover has the Black Marvel Family and the Sivana Family. There is a red silhouette of a monsters hand down the middle with the Black Marvel Family in it with “The Beast who came to dinner” near the hand. In a green tint on the right hand side is Junior and Georgia, on the bottom is Magnificus and Beautia and Venus is on the left.

The ticker at the bottom reads “Who are the Questions Friends …The Sivana Family: Beauties or Beasts…”

The Origin of Hawkman by Waid and Joe Bennett. However in the book it is the Origin of Hawkman and Hawkgirl. The origin takes them from ancient Egypt to modern day in St. Roch, LA.

The solicitation quote for this issue reads as follows: "How altruistic can you be when you're funded by LexCorp?" This takes place during “You are Wrong” with Steel and Natasha.

Week 26, Day 1
Himalayas: The Black Marvel Family drops off the Question and Renee in the Himalayas per their request. Both are thanked by the BMF and told that they are always welcome in Kahndaq. Isis tells Renee that she hopes that she finds the answers she is looking for. When Renee replies that the only answer she wants is how to keep Intergang out of Gotham, Isis tells her that perhaps she is asking “the wrong question. Who are you Renee Montoya” and then creates a rose and hands it to Renee. After the BMF leave, Renee and Charlie are met by Tot and Richard Dragon.***I think that this is who we see on the cover of Week 32 and not Ralph***

Week 26, Day 2
Metropolis: Jack Ryder is going off on the bloodbath that took place in Metropolis two week’s ago with the new Justice League. Jack’s first guest is Steel who blames the whole thing on Lex Luthor for giving out powers to anybody who wants them. Jack then brings out a surprise guest, Natasha Irons. Natasha is pro-Everyman Project and states why she approves of the project. Natasha then leaves quickly when she is told through her earpiece that there is an explosion at Hob’s Bay.

Week 26, Day 4
Sivana House: Junior and Georgia are using their fathers Suspendium Globe to go back in time. Junior wants to go back to the first grade and stop himself from wetting his pants and Georgia wants to go back in to second grade and tell herself to get braces. Waverider then appears in the globe and says “I know why.” And then the globe goes “BOOOM”! The two are then called up-stairs for a dinner party. When they leave you see a crocodile creature in the shadows. Venus goes to the door to greet the BMF. Venus tells the BMF about Thaddeus Sivana’s disappearance. Black Adam tells her that he made it clear that they were not friends. Venus then tells Adam and Isis that she donated $20 Million to Kahndaq’s Children’s Hospital and too consider helping her family.

Oolong Island: More fun with Baron Bug having a malfunctioning mechanical bug, Manitchine…a giant robot praying mantis. The scientists find out that a female scientist has just arrived. The female is Doctor Cale who is there to help with the DNA problem they are having with the Four Horsemen Project. When she asks if any of them have a spare Restructive Enzyme Sequencer, the scientists start toss her theirs and offering her their workspace. ***a nice error, or is it, is a panel with Magnus and Morrow where Morrow mentions to Magnus “…I knew a girl once, Morrow” in which Magnus replies “and?” “…I just knew one once”. It’s odd that Morrow would be calling Magnus Morrow.***

Sivana House: During the dinner Osiris gets upset that they are being bought by a donation to find somebody that they should be fighting. He says that he needs friends and flies out the door. Once he leaves the crocodile figure you see jump out and onto the table ***part of that panel is what you say last week in the “Next in 52” panel*** The crocodile busts through some walls and leaves. Osiris is shown sitting in the Sivana’s garden and the crocodile figure shows up and tells Osiris not to hurt him. The crocodile mentions that he was taken from the Nile River and kept in the dungeon where Sivana experimented on him causing him to grow hands and start walking upright. Osiris asks him if he has a name and when he is told he doesn’t Osiris asks if he wants one.

Next in 52 shows a giant left hand palm with Ralph and the Helmet of Fate standing on it.

[sly_kat]

just read the issue... the time thing springs up again with waverider, and now im VERY intrigued as to what exactly is going on with time... though from the sound of an old interview... waverider's in for a bad road ahead next issue:(

[David O Burcham]

So now the Black Marvel Family may have their own version of Tawky Tawny... only it's an anthropomorphic crocodile (Mr. Chatty Crocky, maybe?).

That is too stinkin' AWESOME! I love how the Black Marvel Family story is shaping up.

My guess is that Sivana Junior and Georgina will succeed in their time-travel quest and end up being Magnificus and Beautia. It would fly in the face of all established Sivana Family continuity... but I think it'd be another cool, wacky idea stemming out of this series.

Not that anything can top the new Egg Fu.

Except Mr. Chatty Crocky!!

[The Purple Skull]

Dr. Cale...that's the chick from the current Superman storyline right? I don't have the issues on me now. Can I get a verification on that?

[SKJAM!]

My guess for the croc's new name would be Sebek, since it follows the "Egyptian" theme.

[K'Nort]

"Everyone knows you can't have a Justice League without a manhunter from Mars!"

Ha!

[Cthulhudrew]

"Asking the wrong question," or "asking the wrong Question?"

That's the question.

[DMike]

Dr. Cale...that's the chick from the current Superman storyline right? I don't have the issues on me now. Can I get a verification on that?

I don't know about the Superman storyline (as I don't read it), but she was a scientist/businesswoman who antagonized Wonder Woman during Rucka's run on that title.

[The Purple Skull]

Dr. Cale...that's the chick from the current Superman storyline right? I don't have the issues on me now. Can I get a verification on that?
Nevermind. I don't think it's the same person.

[MrSuslov]

This was a better issue than some other ones of recent. No space stuff with Lobo or any of those others; hooray.

-Air Black Marvel, haha. Yet again, the most interesting story is told with the Black Marvel Family and the Odd Couple. Does this mean that Miss Montoya will now be trained by Richard Dragon?

-More Luthor, Inc....snore. Did something happen here?

-Wow, Venus Sivana's a looker, and I get distinctly Maniac Mansion vibes from the two kids in the basement. Who was that silver man? "Sorry, sweetie, I don't speak camel jockey"? Heh. That was pretty funny, especially when someone like Black Adam's right across the table. This whole sequence provided me, a newcomer to the Marvels, a bit of interesting insight into how the Sivana family "works". The more Marvels, the better.

-I like the crocodile monster. It could be an interesting addition to whatever DC winds up doing with the Marvels. Haven't we seen a sympathetic anthropomorphic crocodile somewhere in comics before? I could have sworn I remember one from the 1980s or something, and not the evil one in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

-I've got a brand new restrictive enzyme sequencer right here, Miss. Who's this Doctor Cale, anyways? I've found a reference to a Veronica Cale that's a villainess in Rucka's Wonder Woman, but no idea beyond that. Oh, that got answered while I was composing the post and researching Doctor Cale. Based upon what Rucka said about her motivations in a Newsarama interview, I think I like her.

-Not a bad recap of the Hawkpeople; I've never understood much about them.

[gorosaurus]

A bit of trivia, there were Crocodile men in the Monster Society way back in the 1940's issues of Captain Marvel.

[Jack Zodiac]

This was, hands down, the greatest issue yet. The Black Marvel Family is everything the Marvel Family was and should be. It's a shame what's happening to Billy and Mary and Freddy. Whoever was behind that deserves a dry hump. Seriously, even with its downs, the ups in this book are just too great to ignore.

Like Richard Dragon! Back, as Richard Dragon! Not the wimpy Dixon Dragon, but the real Dragon. The hardass teacher. Renee and Vic's part of the story just keeps getting better.

And now that twisted chick from Greg's run on Wonder Woman is on Oolong Island with a bunch of sexually repressed mad scientists, who are as entertaining as they are evil.

I know this book's not supposed to do anything more than continually shake things up, but if they used these themes for the rest of DC's publishing history, I'd be happy. The stories you could get out of the Black Marvel Family, Question and Montoya, and an island full of mad scientists... they'd be too great to imagine.

[Damo]

Like Richard Dragon! Back, as Richard Dragon! Not the wimpy Dixon Dragon, but the real Dragon. The hardass teacher. Renee and Vic's part of the story just keeps getting better.


I want to apologize to everyone.

Those "Woo hoos" you've been hearing all day today? You're going to keep hearing them all week. Maybe longer.

I'm sure none of you want to hear me singing, loud enough to wake you, "Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead!" I can't promise that. I'll try, but you're asking a lot of me.

You have to understand... Dixon's Dragon looks to be very very dead. And for me that's like Christmas and my Birthday put together, with extra kittens and ice cream.

[Jack]

Black Marvel Family so awesome. So, so awesome.

[Jack Zodiac]

I know! It's very rare when 52 is the best book I read all week, but so far it's kicking the holy hell out of everything else I bought.

[titanfan]

I was kind of sad when I saw Richard Dragon there to train Renee. If only because it's now becoming clear that theory that the Question wants Renee to become his protegee is looking like it's going to come true.

[SlightlyMad]

My guess for the croc's new name would be Sebek, since it follows the "Egyptian" theme.

I think they should call him "Hunter"

Actually, the best moment for me was seeing Tot again (back to his old style) as well as Richard. Dennis O'Neil's The Question had the coolest cast. :cool:

The Jack Ryder show bit was great too. Acually, is this the first time that the 2 Steve Ditko creations; Vic Sage & Jack Ryder have appeared in the same comic (although, unfortunately, not as The Question & Creeper, or in the same scene)?

[Kent H]

JG Jones, the cover artist, confirms that Osiris' new bestest buddy is Sobek:
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/002212620.cfm

[SKJAM!]

I'm not sure that Venus Sivana has ever appeared on panel before (or even had a name; it might be a tip of the hat to the early Sivana story that had him ruling the planet Venus.) Thaddeus Junior and Georgia Sivana have been missing from continuity since the first Crisis. Sadly, it looks like the rejigging of the Marvel family over in Trials of Shazam will prevent one of the classic Marvel family vs. Sivana family tussles.

[Jack Zodiac]

I'm not sure that Venus Sivana has ever appeared on panel before (or even had a name; it might be a tip of the hat to the early Sivana story that had him ruling the planet Venus.) Thaddeus Junior and Georgia Sivana have been missing from continuity since the first Crisis. Sadly, it looks like the rejigging of the Marvel family over in Trials of Shazam will prevent one of the classic Marvel family vs. Sivana family tussles.

Like !@#$% it will! I don't care if it is The Black Marvel Family, at least somebody's writing a Marvel Family correctly.

[David O Burcham]

I'm praying that before the year is through, we'll see "Black Marvel" versions of Uncle Dudley and Hoppy.

[Damo]

Shhh! You'll jynx it!

And yes, it's soooo good to see someone gets Captain Marvel.

[Jack]

Shhh! You'll jynx it!

And yes, it's soooo good to see someone gets Captain Marvel.
Of course, you can look at it cynically too... The Black Marvel Family is being used as the backup so they can freely mess with the regular Marvel Family and still not really change anything.

Say, would DC be allowed to publish a book called Black Marvels? I know they can't use Captain Marvel, but does that extend to anything with Marvel in the title?

[MadroxTMMan]

I like this whole Black Adam/Osiris/Isis thing, mostly because I'm a mark for the old 1970's Isis television show, but it feels like these last handful of 52 issues have been about them to the determent of the other subplots. I'm dying to see more of Starfire/Buddy/the outer space thing, plus Batwoman threads are out that haven't been touched in several weeks...and I almost can't care about the Metal Men.

[LtMarvel]

Yes it does.

sadly

[Constantine Drakon]

Is Batwoman even meant to be important in this? I was under the impression that this just happened to be where she was first appearing, not that we would get a lot of story about her.

I miss Pope Lobo. In the name of the fragger, the fragged, and the fragging frag. Frag-it.

[LtMarvel]

This was K Giffen's favorite issue (I believe) so far ("Thanksgiving at the Sivana family" he called it, anyway).

I know I loved it! Georgia and Junior really stole the show!

And then I get to read Sivana going old school against the Outsiders... :)

[Constantine Drakon]

This was K Giffen's favorite issue (I believe) so far ("Thanksgiving at the Sivana family" he called it, anyway).

I know I loved it! Georgia and Junior really stole the show!


Giffen wrote that part? Awesome.

[Jack Zodiac]

I don't know if he wrote it, but he's in charge of layouts, so he sees the finished product of everything.

[LtMarvel]

We don't know who wrote what, but Keith's quote comes from Comics Buyer's Guide a couple of months ago...

[Beyond The Beyonder]

I know! It's very rare when 52 is the best book I read all week, but so far it's kicking the holy hell out of everything else I bought.

Incredible Hulk #100 was really, really good. 52 comes in a close second, though. It's funny, the long-time DC fans are thrilled about how the Black Marvel family is being assembled. I'm new to the Marvel Family, and I'm thrilled about how the Egyptian pantheon is coming to life.

I feel like this particular storyline shows just how harmoniously and synchronistically these writers are working together. Johns is continuing his development of all things Black Adam, Rucka's taking Montoya where she's never been before, Waid's got some old favorites to work with, and Morrison's bringing more and more Gods to the comics page (and now he's got a Teacher to work with!). Fabulous!

[elias_A]

Am I the only one thinking that the Black Marvel family is looking like DC's version of the Fantastic Four? Especially with impulsive Osiris, sensible-responsible sister Isis?
And maybe the crocodile will be called Ben?

[BoosterBronze]

Since he appears to be a parrallel for Tawky Tawny, can we call the crocodile Syllibant Sebek? Speaky Sebek?

And I am looking forward to the Lieutanent Black Marvels.

Great issue, could only be improved by the ressurection of Booster Gold.

[Jack Zodiac]

Am I the only one thinking that the Black Marvel family is looking like DC's version of the Fantastic Four?

I thought DC already had its own version of the Fantastic Four. The Challengers of the Unknown. ;)

No, I don't see it at all. Black Adam isn't a scientific genius or a traditional family man. Isis isn't a meek partner who only speaks out in extreme situations. Osiris is even younger than Johnny Storm, so of course he's an impulsive teen superhero. And Sebek is a talking crocodile, which... I can't even see what you'd connect that to the Fantastic Four with.

No, the Black Marvel Family is DC's version of Fawcett's Marvel Family, which is what DC's Marvel Family should be, but isn't.

[LtMarvel]

Actually, DC's Fantastic Four appeared in the 80s version of the revamped Superman run. The "Mr. Fantastic" lived but went insane while the others died shortly after getting their powers. "Mr. Fantastic" went on to become the Cyborg Superman in the Death/Return of Superman storyline.

[dupersuper]

Odd that the Richards/Henshaw connection wasn't played up more in The Supes/FF special that had The Cyborg in it...especially since Jurgens did both. Then again, it may just be another example of Jurgens being a much better artist than writer...

[MadroxTMMan]

I didn't even pick up on the obvious Tawky Tawny nod with the new alligator character. Wasn't there a Marvel family bunny as well? Or was I high on Lucky Charms when that old Filmation cartoon was on?

[LtMarvel]

Hoppy, the Marvel Bunny headlined a Fawcett comic. He outlived the rest of the Marvel Family when Fawcett settled the Superman case and shutdown the superhero comics, Hoppy was changed to the Magic Bunny, given a new costume color and magic word. Fawcett even sold Hoppy to other publishers!

No one was using Hoppy in the 90s when DC bought the Fawcett line. Hoppy made one cover appearance in Power of Shazam! Hoppy appeared in the Pre-Crisis DC when he made a pleasant surprise appearance in DC Comics Presents. Rather than pay Fawcett the per-panel rental fee, DC created Captain Carrot and the Amazing Zoo Crew to build on Hoppy's successful appearance.

[David O Burcham]

I still like "Mr. Chatty Crocky".

[protege]

So- what's this bit with "Talky crocky."? The thing i'm wondering with this series is, with all the new characters they're introducing, i wonder exactly how many of them are going to still be around when all this is over. i kind of hope Batwoman isn't going to bite it, and Luthor doesn't pull the plug on Infinity Inc. Isis should stick around as well, but I've noticed that none of these newbies have shown up in a regular DC title "one year later."

[protege]

I thought DC already had its own version of the Fantastic Four. The Challengers of the Unknown. ;)

No, I don't see it at all. Black Adam isn't a scientific genius or a traditional family man. Isis isn't a meek partner who only speaks out in extreme situations. Osiris is even younger than Johnny Storm, so of course he's an impulsive teen superhero. And Sebek is a talking crocodile, which... I can't even see what you'd connect that to the Fantastic Four with.

No, the Black Marvel Family is DC's version of Fawcett's Marvel Family, which is what DC's Marvel Family should be, but isn't.
Say- isn't Sobek an Egyptian God with the head of a crocodile?

[Jack Zodiac]

So- what's this bit with "Talky crocky."? The thing i'm wondering with this series is, with all the new characters they're introducing, i wonder exactly how many of them are going to still be around when all this is over. i kind of hope Batwoman isn't going to bite it, and Luthor doesn't pull the plug on Infinity Inc. Isis should stick around as well, but I've noticed that none of these newbies have shown up in a regular DC title "one year later."

The Great Ten has, but for the most part, DC's trying hard not to give anything away from 52 by revealing it OYL.

[longshot7]

can we get a image of Talky Tawny - I'm not familiar with her. The Marvels were for all intents, dead, when I started reading DC in the mid-to-late 80's.

[David O Burcham]

http://www.marvelfamily.com/images/headshots/Mr.TawkyTawny.gif

From Wikie:

"Mister Tawky Tawny. A humanoid sapient tiger who, in classic-era continuity, wishes to live among the humans in civilization instead of in the wild or the zoo. As such, he is typically dressed in a tweed business suit and usually carries himself in a formal dignified manner. The modern-day Tawky Tawny was a stuffed tiger doll who was animated by Lord Satanus to assist the Marvel Family in their battle against Satanus's sister Blaze. He only appeared as an animate being to Billy, Mary, and later Dudley, much in the same way that Hobbes only appears sentient to Calvin in Calvin and Hobbes). Mister Tawky Tawny was made permanently real by the power of Ibis the Invincible."

[protege]

That would have been an interesting way to go- "Captain Marvel and his Imaginary freind."

[Count Vertigo]

that crocodile man... wasnt there such a creature in Mr. Mind's Monster Society?

[David O Burcham]

There wasn't just one Crocodile Man, Count V. There was a whole planet of 'em!

Mr. Mind had Herkimer as his second-in-command; Jorrk was one of his three lieutenants; Sylvester was a gunner; and another was a professor at Mr. Mind's Monster School" (can't remember his name).

The Crocodile Men were basically the fourth "Axis" army in the Monster Society. Hiltler, Mussolini, and Tojo were all members and worked for Mr. Mind!

[Count Vertigo]

thanks for the headsup!

[David O Burcham]

I forgot to add that the Crocodile Men came from the planet Punkus.



And people say Grant Morrison has wild ideas. He ain't got nuttin' on C.C. Beck and Otto Binder!