After the Battle: WWH Ramifications

[beetheb]

Has anyone stopped to think about where Hulk goes after this is all over? In the end, he'll have destroyed half of New York city, killed or seriously maimed scads of Superheroes and put innumerable lives at risk....it's not as if they're going to let him fall back into the Banner-on-the-run routine...

Pak has said something about the "Super secret third part of the WWH Trilogy" but that doesn't tell us much...

What will Hulks status quo be coming out of WWH? No matter what happens it's highly unlikely the SuperHero community will allow Hulk to freely roam the Earth, so where does he go from here?

[Evil Resident]

I think the third part of the hulk trilogy will have something to do with the latest revelation on the latest (New Avengers) issue, there's a lot of question marks about if the illuminati members are really themselves or not?

I could be wrong but maybe it is "possible" that the hulk's revenge story can go far more than just earth? :rolleyes:

[thronzeblast]

Has anyone stopped to think about where Hulk goes after this is all over? In the end, he'll have destroyed half of New York city, killed or seriously maimed scads of Superheroes and put innumerable lives at risk....it's not as if they're going to let him fall back into the Banner-on-the-run routine...

Pak has said something about the "Super secret third part of the WWH Trilogy" but that doesn't tell us much...

What will Hulks status quo be coming out of WWH? No matter what happens it's highly unlikely the SuperHero community will allow Hulk to freely roam the Earth, so where does he go from here?


Why not didnt cable go go beserk and they had to call in the surfur to kick his ass and he is still running his country.They were so scared of magneto they gave him genosha to be rid of him.And if im not mistaken after all the shit doom's pulled he still rules Latveria.

[Camron Amaya]

Maybe he'll help stop the Skrulls with whatever they're planning and be somewhat forgiven for WWH.


But not likely..

[Shai Hulud]

One thing that has been said is that the 3rd part of that trilogy wiill be called:'' the strongest there is''.....And In one of the episode the Hulk is fighting an adversarry and the watcher is there.Hulk stop and ask him:'' what are you doing here? '' The watcher says: ''I'm watching'' Then hulk hit the watcher with a punch sayin:'' I dont like being watched''

Awesome....

[Shai Hulud]

There where I read that:



WonderCon 07: Hulk Throws Down With the Watcher
Uatu finds a green fist planted in his face.
by Richard George
March 3, 2007 - Jeph Loeb is writing a Hulk story, and he's bringing Ed McGuinness with him. When asked about the project today at WonderCon, the writer said he couldn't say much. He did confirm that he thought the event would be more intense than the upcoming World War Hulk. Though slightly joking, Loeb said he thought his story would make World War Hulk look like a picnic.

Tentatively labeling the story "The Strongest There Is," Loeb said that he and McGuiness wanted to do things with the Hulk that have never been done before. To illustrate his point, Loeb recalled one idea his artist had. He said he liked the piece so much that it made it into the script.

The writer said that at some point in the story, the Hulk is fighting a particular character in the Marvel Universe (he would not say which one). At one point the Hulk noticed that he's being watched by Uatu the Watcher. The Green Goliath moves over to the Watcher and demands to know why the alien being is just standing there. When Uatu responds that he's "watching," Hulk punches him in the face and sends him flying. Hulk then responds that he doesn't want to be watched and returns to fight his opponent.

IGN will bring you the latest on the Hulk, Jeph Loeb's projects (including Heroes) and WonderCon.

[Mike Smash!]

One thing that has been said is that the 3rd part of that trilogy wiill be called:'' the strongest there is''.....And In one of the episode the Hulk is fighting an adversarry and the watcher is there.Hulk stop and ask him:'' what are you doing here? '' The watcher says: ''I'm watching'' Then hulk hit the watcher with a punch sayin:'' I dont like being watched''

Awesome....That's a separate event Jeph Loeb is writing. Greg Pak says that he's planning on a sequel to WWH which will be even bigger.

[ShaggyB]

Ive thought about this alot and im picturing hulk discovering the bomb wasnt placed there by who he thought. Im seeing him pound the true party that wronged him. Then i see hulk leave earth with his crew and does the old "Hulk in Space" thing for awhile until he is needed again on earth. he is then called for to help with some crisis and is given forgiveness for what he has done.

i hope im wrong as its a bigger let down then cap giving up but at this point.... nothing stops the hulk, except the hulk stopping himself.

[beetheb]

I'm starting to wonder if something will happen during WWH that will change Hulks mind about the Illuminati...

I wasn't really aiming to make another "whats Pak's super-secret third part of the trilogy?!" thread, I was more in the thinking of: This is the worst Hulk has ever rampaged (and we're only 1 issue in!), and the most dangerous he's ever been, after WWH plays out, what's Hulks next step? Just keep on fighting everyone?

I really doubt that Stark, Mr. Fantastic or the U.S. gov't are going to let Banner go again. I dont think they're going to limit themselves to dispatching a "Hulkbuster" crew comprised of about 5 guys in metal suits tracking Hulk over the course of 5 years, the stakes are too high now, and Hulks not just "That-stupid-but-good-at-heart-rampaging-monster" he's more of a real threat to the Planet's safety now, left to his devices for too long anymore, he could take over the Planet.

I'm thinking ALL of The Initiative AND the U.S. Gov't hounding Hulk, not letting up for a second till he either goes down, surrenders or leaves the planet...I know that's what they're doing right now, and I think it's gonna continue past World War Hulk.

[ultimate hulk]

i don't think the goverment is that stupid...no one in their right mind is going to go running after the hulk when this is over...unless they want a world war hulk two on their hands...no...everyone will be too scared to mess with the hulk...:D

[Mike Smash!]

i don't think the goverment is that stupid...Clearly you don't know the government. :)

[ultimate hulk]

i think the goverment will try to be smart this time around...if they know what's good for them...:D ...and also the idea of hulk/bruce going back on the run...let us say it's too stale...i like the idea of hulk ruling somewhere...especially since i saw im#19 preview...it was so cool when arch-E...called the hulk my king...and hulk looked totally gothic in that preview...i wish that guy can be the artist on hulk all the time...and also the dark green color looks excellent on the hulk...:D

[Quinch]

I think the Hulk is going to go all cosmic. Pak's third part takes Beetheb's concerns into account I think when he says Sakkar will be revisited. I can#t see THIS incarnation of Hulk existing on Earth any longer. He either will be king(unlikely and not realistic) seriously on the run or he's simply too poweful for any challenges.
So back into space he goes.

[CMBMOOL]

Yet one question still bugs me; while I know that this is a HULK centered event, how will this event affect the other heroes of Marvel ? :(

[Magneto Rocks]

It won't.

It's been made evident time and time again that World War Hulk will have few to no lasting changes OUTSIDE the Hulk family, which is all for the best after everything was altered in civil war. For the record, let's review:

Fantastic Four:
NO FF tie-ins, and FF is now following it's own central plot theme of Reed's 'big plan' which is isolated from most of the universe, plus they're off doing cosmic stuff.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 4/10. Therekll be effect, probably more trust issues but nothing major.

Mighty Avengers and New Avengers:
-NO tie-ins and will be caught up in their own major events- the Mighty Avengers will be dealing with Doom and Symbiotes who are probably as much of a threat as Hulk any day, and BOTH will be deep deep in the Skrull conspiracies which will by far overshadow any changes made in WWH.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 2/10. Besides maybe an occasional mention and whatever Doc Strange does, I see this being a very very small factor.

Spider-Man:
-NO tie-ins, busy in a major story of his own and with a colosso-story just around the corner? Yeah, sorry Hulk you can wait your turn.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 0/10. Back in Black is pre-during WWH and overrides it in spidey importance, One More Day is after and far overshadows it. This will not even be MENTIONED, most likely.

Iron Man and "The Initiative
-Two Initiative tie-ins. We know the Initiative will exist at the end of this. We know Iron Man is still Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. But there will probably be some changes in the WWH issues of The Initiative, even if they aren't directly related. The overall status quo will not be altered, but there will be some minor things.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect:
Iron Man- 4/10
THe Intiative 5/10

That's my two cents.

[beetheb]

It won't.

It's been made evident time and time again that World War Hulk will have few to no lasting changes OUTSIDE the Hulk family, which is all for the best after everything was altered in civil war. For the record, let's review:

Fantastic Four:
NO FF tie-ins, and FF is now following it's own central plot theme of Reed's 'big plan' which is isolated from most of the universe, plus they're off doing cosmic stuff.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 4/10. Therekll be effect, probably more trust issues but nothing major.

Mighty Avengers and New Avengers:
-NO tie-ins and will be caught up in their own major events- the Mighty Avengers will be dealing with Doom and Symbiotes who are probably as much of a threat as Hulk any day, and BOTH will be deep deep in the Skrull conspiracies which will by far overshadow any changes made in WWH.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 2/10. Besides maybe an occasional mention and whatever Doc Strange does, I see this being a very very small factor.

Spider-Man:
-NO tie-ins, busy in a major story of his own and with a colosso-story just around the corner? Yeah, sorry Hulk you can wait your turn.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 0/10. Back in Black is pre-during WWH and overrides it in spidey importance, One More Day is after and far overshadows it. This will not even be MENTIONED, most likely.

Iron Man and "The Initiative
-Two Initiative tie-ins. We know the Initiative will exist at the end of this. We know Iron Man is still Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. But there will probably be some changes in the WWH issues of The Initiative, even if they aren't directly related. The overall status quo will not be altered, but there will be some minor things.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect:
Iron Man- 4/10
THe Intiative 5/10

That's my two cents.Dude, you only give Stark a 4/10? Before this is over Hulk will have: Outed Stark as a conspirator, Seriously injured him (possibly permanently), completely reduced his headquarters and home to rubble- and thats only since Issue #1!

Stark will feel the effects of WWH more than anyone else besides Hulk himself, I believe. So I'd make Starks chances if coming out of this significantly effected a 10/10, because if you've read WWH #1, you'll see that he's already been significantly effected.

[Magneto Rocks]

But no, he hasn't. He's been cosmetically changed.

Is he Director of S.H.I.E.L.D.? Yes. He's going back to business as normal after WWH. He's hunting for Maya, he'll be fighting the Mandarin, he'll still be dealing with CW fallout, running the Initiative and remnicising over Cap. WWH will barely be a stepping stone unless there's SHIELD stuff in his own title.

So he lost Stark Tower- that barely changes the character. We already know it will be rebuilt, probably the exact same. And in his own title he's always on the Helicarrier anyway. So he's outed as a conspirator- but that little speech he gave is Marvel's "Out". The world WILL view him the same, because we clearly see them routing for him. Like it or not, despite knowing what he did the marvel public still clearly see him as a hero and saviour after his selfless speech and battle.

And ther'es no WAY he's seriously injuured.

So beyond tiny, cosmetic changes, there's little- no permanent major changes to Stark because of this.

[beetheb]

But no, he hasn't. He's been cosmetically changed.

Is he Director of S.H.I.E.L.D.? Yes. He's going back to business as normal after WWH. He's hunting for Maya, he'll be fighting the Mandarin, he'll still be dealing with CW fallout, running the Initiative and remnicising over Cap. WWH will barely be a stepping stone unless there's SHIELD stuff in his own title.

So he lost Stark Tower- that barely changes the character. We already know it will be rebuilt, probably the exact same. And in his own title he's always on the Helicarrier anyway. So he's outed as a conspirator- but that little speech he gave is Marvel's "Out". The world WILL view him the same, because we clearly see them routing for him. Like it or not, despite knowing what he did the marvel public still clearly see him as a hero and saviour after his selfless speech and battle.

And ther'es no WAY he's seriously injuured.

So beyond tiny, cosmetic changes, there's little- no permanent major changes to Stark because of this.You didn't say "cosmetically" effected or "permanently" effected before. You said significantly effected...and any way you slice it some significant things have happened to Stark thus far...and as I said, we're only 1 issue in.

Don't be too hasty to add up everyones wins and losses till the event is over, because, like me, you still have no idea what's to come.

[Magneto Rocks]

I'm just saying chances and no, I definitely couldn't call "being beaten up" and "losing a tower for three months" to be SIGNIFICENT. I mean actual reprucussions outside the crossover.

[CMBMOOL]

It won't.

It's been made evident time and time again that World War Hulk will have few to no lasting changes OUTSIDE the Hulk family, which is all for the best after everything was altered in civil war. For the record, let's review:

Fantastic Four:
NO FF tie-ins, and FF is now following it's own central plot theme of Reed's 'big plan' which is isolated from most of the universe, plus they're off doing cosmic stuff.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 4/10. Therekll be effect, probably more trust issues but nothing major.

Mighty Avengers and New Avengers:
-NO tie-ins and will be caught up in their own major events- the Mighty Avengers will be dealing with Doom and Symbiotes who are probably as much of a threat as Hulk any day, and BOTH will be deep deep in the Skrull conspiracies which will by far overshadow any changes made in WWH.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 2/10. Besides maybe an occasional mention and whatever Doc Strange does, I see this being a very very small factor.

Spider-Man:
-NO tie-ins, busy in a major story of his own and with a colosso-story just around the corner? Yeah, sorry Hulk you can wait your turn.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 0/10. Back in Black is pre-during WWH and overrides it in spidey importance, One More Day is after and far overshadows it. This will not even be MENTIONED, most likely.

Iron Man and "The Initiative
-Two Initiative tie-ins. We know the Initiative will exist at the end of this. We know Iron Man is still Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. But there will probably be some changes in the WWH issues of The Initiative, even if they aren't directly related. The overall status quo will not be altered, but there will be some minor things.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect:
Iron Man- 4/10
THe Intiative 5/10

That's my two cents.

Okay then how will the aftermath of WWH, affect the lifestyle of the She-Hulk ? :(

[Magneto Rocks]

I honestly don't know. I think it will have an effect on her, not a colossal one but a pretty big one. Obviously the biggest one will be Hulk himself. But those are the areas where I'm not sure, those two and Doc Strange.

[ivesaidway2much]

It won't.

It's been made evident time and time again that World War Hulk will have few to no lasting changes OUTSIDE the Hulk family, which is all for the best after everything was altered in civil war. For the record, let's review:

Fantastic Four:
NO FF tie-ins, and FF is now following it's own central plot theme of Reed's 'big plan' which is isolated from most of the universe, plus they're off doing cosmic stuff.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 4/10. Therekll be effect, probably more trust issues but nothing major.

Mighty Avengers and New Avengers:
-NO tie-ins and will be caught up in their own major events- the Mighty Avengers will be dealing with Doom and Symbiotes who are probably as much of a threat as Hulk any day, and BOTH will be deep deep in the Skrull conspiracies which will by far overshadow any changes made in WWH.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 2/10. Besides maybe an occasional mention and whatever Doc Strange does, I see this being a very very small factor.

Spider-Man:
-NO tie-ins, busy in a major story of his own and with a colosso-story just around the corner? Yeah, sorry Hulk you can wait your turn.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect: 0/10. Back in Black is pre-during WWH and overrides it in spidey importance, One More Day is after and far overshadows it. This will not even be MENTIONED, most likely.

Iron Man and "The Initiative
-Two Initiative tie-ins. We know the Initiative will exist at the end of this. We know Iron Man is still Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. But there will probably be some changes in the WWH issues of The Initiative, even if they aren't directly related. The overall status quo will not be altered, but there will be some minor things.
Chances of Significent World War Hulk Effect:
Iron Man- 4/10
THe Intiative 5/10

That's my two cents.I coulldn't agree with you more wholeheartedly. I only wish the chance of Earth shattering changes in non-Hulk books was 0/10 for all of them. After seeing other event books shoe in new characterizations onto long-established characters for the sake of the story and tread water with unnecessary filler issues in between massive Marvel Universe altering events, I'll be overjoyed if WWH has none. After all the groundbreaking, life changing moments of Disassembled, HoM, and Civil War are undone and pretty much forgotten 10-15 years from now, World War Hulk might still be remembered as great Hulk story. If that's the case I'll be extremely happy.

Heck, at the very least, Hulk finally beat Black Bolt, so WWH can't be all bad.:D

[Magneto Rocks]

I coulldn't agree with you more wholeheartedly. I only wish the chance of Earth shattering changes in non-Hulk books was 0/10 for all of them. After seeing other event books shoe in new characterizations onto long-established characters for the sake of the story and tread water with unnecessary filler issues in between massive Marvel Universe altering events,

Well chances are, things are lower even than I gave credit for. To be honest, I'd be surprised if WWH is more than mentioned in Fantastic Four or even Mighty Avengers... I VERY MUCH doubt that after the WWH tie-ins, there'll be too much mention of the event in Iron Man's title.... so really the chances are a lot lower but I was being pessimistic.

Except Spidey cos that's basically a fact. NOTHING except civil war has really affected him.

I'll be overjoyed if WWH has none. After all the groundbreaking, life changing moments of Disassembled, HoM, and Civil War are undone and pretty much forgotten 10-15 years from now, World War Hulk might still be remembered as great Hulk story. If that's the case I'll be extremely happy.

Heck, at the very least, Hulk finally beat Black Bolt, so WWH can't be all bad.:D