Am I The Only One Disturbed By This?

[Supergirl Kara]

Hulk beating Black Bolt? Im telling you, if he litierally, legit beats Black Bolt.


Then no matter how insignificant I am......Marvel lost a reader.

[Mike Smash!]

Hulk beating Black Bolt? Im telling you, if he litierally, legit beats Black Bolt.


Then no matter how insignificant I am......Marvel lost a reader.Nope. No problem with it.

Hulk is a massively powerful character, who's performed amazing feats of strength over the years and there really is no shame in losing to him.

But to refuse to read any comic books from a company because one character beat up another character you like is just childish, in my opinion.

[Kevinroc]

Why would you be disturbed by the idea of a character with a dynamic power level beating up somebody else?

[Camron Amaya]

I think you're a little confused.

And lol @ dropping all Marvel comics cuz one of the characters you like loses a battle. Cmon now, that's just creepy.

[Quinch]

Yeah I know how comic book crushes are... One day you are admiring his little tuning fork the next you are ordering made up all leather manequins.
It'll pass...

[chrismileslord]

I adore Black Bolt. But Hulk has lost someone he loves, so he will have a great deal of strength

[Xanrn]

10 to 1 one of the Warbound jumps Black Bolt.

Yes Hulk soloing Black Bolt in a straight fight is Black Bolt jobbing.

But the Warbound were making plans for each member and no point in planning if its simply "stand back while the Hulk beats them down".

[Brad Barton]

Hulk beating Black Bolt? Im telling you, if he litierally, legit beats Black Bolt.


Then no matter how insignificant I am......Marvel lost a reader.Poor guy, I'm sure you thought everyone would agree with you, but this is the Hulk board, remember?

Hey, you should get together with Magneto_Rocks and start a club ;) You could call it "The-Hulk-Haters-that-follow-everything-he does-anyway -- of-America"

[Shai Hulud]

ITS ABOUT TIME HULK GETS BACK TO THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN....BYE-BYE BLACK BOLT.:evilsmile

[Supergirl Kara]

Poor guy, I'm sure you thought everyone would agree with you, but this is the Hulk board, remember?

Hey, you should get together with Magneto_Rocks and start a club ;) You could call it "The-Hulk-Haters-that-follow-everything-he does-anyway -- of-America"

If I thought everyone would agree why would I ask you idiot.

Why cant you come on here and act civilized. Either you agree or you dont.

[Supergirl Kara]

Poor guy, I'm sure you thought everyone would agree with you, but this is the Hulk board, remember?

Hey, you should get together with Magneto_Rocks and start a club ;) You could call it "The-Hulk-Haters-that-follow-everything-he does-anyway -- of-America"

I enver read Hulk comics. I only keep up with Hulk through what my friends who are into him tell me. So how do I follow everything he does? I didnt read Planet Hulk. Wtf is your problem? You couldnt simple say

"No, I think him defeating Black Bolt is fine."

Did you have to get immature?

[Quinch]

If I thought everyone would agree why would I ask you idiot.

Why cant you come on here and act civilized. Either you agree or you dont.
Self owned?

[Dorsai]

Hulk beating Black Bolt? Im telling you, if he litierally, legit beats Black Bolt.


Then no matter how insignificant I am......Marvel lost a reader.


I am not really distrubed by it. Actually, I would be disappointed if Black Bolt didn't lose. This is a story about revenge and The Illumanati has been cast as the bad guys and The Hulk is the guy on the quest.

The only person of the Illumanati that would really distress me to see killed would be Namor -- and so far, he seems the only one with enough common sense to stay on the sideline.

[1WEBHEAD]

Nope. No problem with it.

Hulk is a massively powerful character, who's performed amazing feats of strength over the years and there really is no shame in losing to him.

But to refuse to read any comic books from a company because one character beat up another character you like is just childish, in my opinion.

I agree. Mike nailed it for me in the most civilized way possible for me.


I adore Black Bolt. But Hulk has lost someone he loves, so he will have a great deal of strength

Not to mention an entire planet filled with people who love and adore him.

:)

[Supergirl Kara]

I am not really distrubed by it. Actually, I would be disappointed if Black Bolt didn't lose. This is a story about revenge and The Illumanati has been cast as the bad guys and The Hulk is the guy on the quest.

The only person of the Illumanati that would really distress me to see killed would be Namor -- and so far, he seems the only one with enough common sense to stay on the sideline.

Well, I believe that Black Bolt should be more of a main event. I mean look at the power he holds. Why is he first on the list, even if the moon was the first stop before earth. He deserves a main event, not first round knockout. Thats jobbing to me.

[Supergirl Kara]

I agree. Mike nailed it for me in the most civilized way possible for me.




Not to mention an entire planet filled with people who love and adore him.

:)

Look at the laast part of what he said, the insult. Unecessaary and totally NOT what my title was asking. I asked if anyone was disturbed, he didnt have to toss an insult.


Now I personally, dont think Hulk should fight Bolt first.

[1WEBHEAD]

Look at the laast part of what he said, the insult. Unecessaary and totally NOT what my title was asking. I asked if anyone was disturbed, he didnt have to toss an insult.


Now I personally, dont think Hulk should fight Bolt first.

Dude are you talking about this part:

But to refuse to read any comic books from a company because one character beat up another character you like is just childish, in my opinion.

Yeah, what a jerk, having the nerve to voice his own opinion. . .:p

[Dorsai]

Well, I believe that Black Bolt should be more of a main event. I mean look at the power he holds. Why is he first on the list, even if the moon was the first stop before earth. He deserves a main event, not first round knockout. Thats jobbing to me.

Ah, I see. You are right to the extent that he is a headliner and not an opening act. But that is exactly why he was first on the list. The Hulk picked him specifically because he felt Black Bolt was the most powerful of the Illumanati. He believed by defeating Black Bolt, he would be sending a message to the others that they weren't safe.

Purely a shock tactic on the part of the Hulk and an effort to show he can dominate any of them at any time he so chooses.

[Supergirl Kara]

Dude are you talking about this part:



Yeah, what a jerk, having the nerve to voice his own opinion. . .:p

Yep...Now hop off his nutz

[Supergirl Kara]

Ah, I see. You are right to the extent that he is a headliner and not an opening act. But that is exactly why he was first on the list. The Hulk picked him specifically because he felt Black Bolt was the most powerful of the Illumanati. He believed by defeating Black Bolt, he would be sending a message to the others that they weren't safe.

Purely a shock tactic on the part of the Hulk and an effort to show he can dominate any of them at any time he so chooses.

I see what your saying. That makes sense. I dont know though did you see Hulk's kill list? BB is one of the four. I dont think killing Black Bolt is a smart move because it literally breaks the foundation for the Inhumans as a whole. Black Bolt is the only person who should Lead them. Maximus? NO

[ultimate hulk]

why do some people find it difficult to believe the hulk can kick anyone's tail...it's only natural that the hulk can beat black bolt one on one...the hulk is way stronger that before...and not only because of the warp core...but because he's really mad...:D...the hulk is so powerful now...that black bolt scream will be like a blow dryer for hulk's hair...i bet the hulk took a shower before he went out to face black bolt...since there's no towel on the stone ship he couldn't dry his hair...that's the reason hulk said i wanna hear u scream...so that his hair could be dried out...at least that's what i dreamnt last night:D

[Dazzler]

well, to be fair (which, i know know, strange concept!), Supergirl Kara was just voicing her opinion as well and then everyone came at her with the insults and the insinuations of childishness. you guys on her case have absolutely nothing to talk about. you all could have handled it much better: just putting a little "in my opinion" at the end of a sentence doesn't give license to be a complete tool and get away with it.

ANYWAY...i don't have a problem with black bolt getting beaten by the hulk. i mean, the hulk is uber powerful now, even if he is a little played out as a character. no wonder he was fired away from earth...seriously, as a character, once you get to a certain unbeatable power level, what's left to do with him? so, given that he's now at that crazy ridiculous level, i'm sure he would beat black bolt.

--Dazz

[Harding Prime]

Well, I believe that Black Bolt should be more of a main event. I mean look at the power he holds. Why is he first on the list, even if the moon was the first stop before earth. He deserves a main event, not first round knockout. Thats jobbing to me.

Well, honestly, you don't see how he loses or whether he really loses straight up or at all, yet. All we know is that the Hulk gets passed him.

And as far as a main event...I must have missed Inhumans ongoing title. (Which did just win Possible Ongoing Title Survivor, but it is still not there.)

[1WEBHEAD]

Yep...Now hop off his nutz

Now that was uncalled for. You're going to insult anybody who disagrees with you now?

I see what your saying. That makes sense. I dont know though did you see Hulk's kill list? BB is one of the four. I dont think killing Black Bolt is a smart move because it literally breaks the foundation for the Inhumans as a whole. Black Bolt is the only person who should Lead them. Maximus? NO

Why should the Hulk care about if the Inhuman are leaderless? Wouldn't that be a good thing for Hulk?

[Supergirl Kara]

:) well, to be fair (which, i know know, strange concept!), Supergirl Kara was just voicing her opinion as well and then everyone came at her with the insults and the insinuations of childishness. you guys on her case have absolutely nothing to talk about. you all could have handled it much better: just putting a little "in my opinion" at the end of a sentence doesn't give license to be a complete tool and get away with it.

ANYWAY...i don't have a problem with black bolt getting beaten by the hulk. i mean, the hulk is uber powerful now, even if he is a little played out as a character. no wonder he was fired away from earth...seriously, as a character, once you get to a certain unbeatable power level, what's left to do with him? so, given that he's now at that crazy ridiculous level, i'm sure he would beat black bolt.

--Dazz


Thank you thats exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks :D


Well, What is the result of this. We know either he will die...or...Be locked in an Isolated 42 prison for like ever. Isolated virtually from everyone and everything.

[ultimate hulk]

:)


Thank you thats exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks :D


Well, What is the result of this. We know either he will die...or...Be locked in an Isolated 42 prison for like ever. Isolated virtually from everyone and everything.

wishful thinking...:D

[Dorsai]

I see what your saying. That makes sense. I dont know though did you see Hulk's kill list? BB is one of the four. I dont think killing Black Bolt is a smart move because it literally breaks the foundation for the Inhumans as a whole. Black Bolt is the only person who should Lead them. Maximus? NO

Personally, until I see that Black Bolt is a corpse, I'm thinking he is still alive.

They didn't really go into the order of battle so to speak but simply called out that Black Bolt was first. Keep in mind that they way they hear the Hulk say his name, it sounds like "Blagbult".

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[Quinch]

:)


Thank you thats exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks :D


Well, What is the result of this. We know either he will die...or...Be locked in an Isolated 42 prison for like ever. Isolated virtually from everyone and everything.

No we don't *know* that. Since the idea is for another arc to the Planet/World War Hulk and then a Loeb project called 'the strongest one there is' I doubt either of your two ideas will occur.
But since you don't actually read or care about Hulk you don't know that.
As for Black Bolt , well even fetish models can lose now and again. I'm sure you'll get over it.

[bandoogiemanz]

Supergirl Kara's a girl??? I hadn't noticed. Ooooohhh, a girl who likes comic books. That's what I'm lookin' for.

[ultimate hulk]

Supergirl Kara's a girl??? I hadn't noticed. Ooooohhh, a girl who likes comic books. That's what I'm lookin' for.

relaxed dude...there's plenty of chicks that like comics...besides u don't want to hook up with one that hates the hulk...:D

[Bryson the Red]

I have to agree. I'm not going to be very shocked when Hulk wins, and really it's not reaching that far. Still, I maintain, that if not motivated for the need of a sweet story, I would think that just about about any one of the Illuminati has a good shot at taking down Hulk, some more that others. (Namor and BB both have a good record against him if I recall)

[Kefky]

So has anybody mentioned that BB probably lost because he severely underestimated the Hulk? I mean, NO ONE expect him to be as strong as he is. When you think about that, BB's basically a sacrifice so people at Earth know what comin' at 'em.

[drupgyu]

Yeah I know how comic book crushes are... One day you are admiring his little tuning fork the next you are ordering made up all leather manequins.
It'll pass...

Hilarious! The funniest post for this thread goes to...Quinch!

And how could Black Bolt be one of your favorite characters?! I like him just like the next guy but he has been in, what, 50 issues TOTAL? And almost all of those have been in the Fantastic Four.

No single death can cause me to ban a comic company with different artists and writers, I mean , really. Although Cap's death was severely pushing it for me...

But Blackbolt? He doesn't even have any witty lines or catchphrases (not that those make great characterization but sometimes it helps).

[Brad Barton]

I enver read Hulk comics. I only keep up with Hulk through what my friends who are into him tell me. So how do I follow everything he does? I didnt read Planet Hulk. Wtf is your problem? You couldnt simple say

"No, I think him defeating Black Bolt is fine."

Did you have to get immature?Wow, you poor little guy, my comment must've hurt, huh?

Take my advice, don't start trying to win arguments by name-calling, it only lets everyone know how remedial you really are.
(pssst, remedial means "stupid", just so you know. I know them big ol' words can get complicated for someone like you ;) )

And if you want to call me an idiot, at least do it in a way that doesn't make yourself look like a whiney Middle-schooler.

M'kay?

[bd2999]

If he takes the scream full on and then beats BB I would agree with you that the whole thing is ridiculous. I know a Hulk fan will spot off about the anger and durability but consider that a whisper leveled Savage Hulk so being able to take that is a major power uppage.

BB in terms of raw might alone can hang with Hulk, but Hulk would beat him. If he takes the scream full on I might join you, but Hulk seemed to fear that and was preparing a plan for it. IF that is the case its not as big of a deal for me.

[ultimate hulk]

If he takes the scream full on and then beats BB I would agree with you that the whole thing is ridiculous. I know a Hulk fan will spot off about the anger and durability but consider that a whisper leveled Savage Hulk so being able to take that is a major power uppage.

BB in terms of raw might alone can hang with Hulk, but Hulk would beat him. If he takes the scream full on I might join you, but Hulk seemed to fear that and was preparing a plan for it. IF that is the case its not as big of a deal for me.

which part in stronger than ever don't u get...that means way stronger than when he was just the savage hulk...the only reason i'm still hanging around is to see him take the scream full on...that will redeem the hulk in my eyes for not killing black bolt...

[Brad Barton]

Self owned?*sigh* Yeah, people like that can't help it.

Just smile and nod, maybe he'll go away.

[lonewolf23k]

I actually have a copy of an old Hulk issue where a Mindless, Savage Hulk, trapped in a crossroads dimension, has to fight the U-Foes, until the only one left is Vector, who unleashes the full strength of his power against the Hulk, litterally tossing the entire Crossroads dimension at him.

And the Hulk just grits his teeth and stomps forward, inch by inch, until he's close enough to grab Vector by the head and tosses him into one of the dimensional portals, onto a world where Vector has to use his powers to deflect wind-flung debris just to stay alive.

...So, yeah, I can buy the Hulk taking Black Bolt's scream.

As for Black Bolt's fighting performance in general, let me ask this.. When was the last time Black Bolt was in a real fight? Something he couldn't just defeat by standing in one place and talk at it? Isn't it entirely possible Black Bolt's just gone complacent and got overconfident against the Hulk?

[ultimate hulk]

I actually have a copy of an old Hulk issue where a Mindless, Savage Hulk, trapped in a crossroads dimension, has to fight the U-Foes, until the only one left is Vector, who unleashes the full strength of his power against the Hulk, litterally tossing the entire Crossroads dimension at him.

And the Hulk just grits his teeth and stomps forward, inch by inch, until he's close enough to grab Vector by the head and tosses him into one of the dimensional portals, onto a world where Vector has to use his powers to deflect wind-flung debris just to stay alive.

...So, yeah, I can buy the Hulk taking Black Bolt's scream.

As for Black Bolt's fighting performance in general, let me ask this.. When was the last time Black Bolt was in a real fight? Something he couldn't just defeat by standing in one place and talk at it? Isn't it entirely possible Black Bolt's just gone complacent and got overconfident against the Hulk?

i'm sure the hulk give him enough time to see the error of his ways...so he could scream...:D

[Syzygy]

Well, first off, we don't know the details of the battle yet.

One, however, is that it takes place in the Blue Area of the moon, which has a fairly limited atmosphere, is artificially maintained, and also is home to Black Bolt's home city, Attilan.

If Black Bolt were facing Hulk in the Khazan arena, he could just let loose with yell after yell until even the Hulk were atomized. After all, his every word has the power of a nuclear bomb, and so far as I know, he can talk as much as any of us. That's one hell of a nuclear arsenal.

But what happens if he unleashes that arsenal, in full, on the Blue Area of the moon? Might he not destroy the ancient machines that preserve the temperature and atmosphere? What about the shock waves in such an enclosed area?

My guess is that if Black Bolt cut loose in the Blue Area of the moon, he'd destroy Attilan. So he can't cut loose...and he can't use his full power...so he loses.

On the other hand, in the Khazan arena, my bet is on a Black Bolt victory. He just cuts loose repeatedly until the Hulk is atomized.

Anyway, those are my thoughts and conjectures on the matter.

[Camron Amaya]

I enver read Hulk comics. I only keep up with Hulk through what my friends who are into him tell me. So how do I follow everything he does? I didnt read Planet Hulk. Wtf is your problem? You couldnt simple say

"No, I think him defeating Black Bolt is fine."

Did you have to get immature?



You realize this makes it even more hillarious that you made this thread? And calling others an idiot?

[Wild Card13]

And how could Black Bolt be one of your favorite characters?! I like him just like the next guy but he has been in, what, 50 issues TOTAL? And almost all of those have been in the Fantastic Four.

No single death can cause me to ban a comic company with different artists and writers, I mean , really. Although Cap's death was severely pushing it for me...

But Blackbolt? He doesn't even have any witty lines or catchphrases (not that those make great characterization but sometimes it helps).

First thing's first. Drupgyu, if witty lines, catchphrases, and sheer amount of issues a character's been in are how you evaluate the depth of a character, then I think you should be watching daytime soaps, not collecting comic books.

Now, to the main issue at hand. Black Bolt losing to the Hulk. It makes perfect sense, both story-wise and profit wise.

From the story POV, Black Bolt has two huge things against him: a Hulk with an unprecedented level of power and new, unknown allies, and the limitation that he can't go into full scream on the moon without killing everyone. Besides, my bet is that the warbound find a way to put him in an environment without any air, which would render his voice completely useless (no air molecules=no vibrations=no voice). Oh, and the whole not breathing thing, too.

From a sales standpoint, it makes even more sense. Think about it. Reed, Strange, and Tony all headline bestselling books. Hell, Tony headlines two and Strange also just finished a bestselling mini-series. There's a movie about Reed due out this summer, one about Tony next summer, and a straight-to-DVD about Strange just over the horizon. You see, they're valuable properties for Marvel. Black Bolt currently stars in Silent War, an amazing mini that practically no one is buying...and that's it. I'm willing to bet a lot of newer comic readers didn't even know who Black Bolt WAS until they were introduced to the Illuminati, and even then had to go ask their LCS clerk, "Who's the guy with the tuning fork on his head?"

And so, Supergirl Kara, we get back to the question that this thread poses: Am I The Only One Disturbed By This? (Note The Capitalization Of Every Word). Well, based on three whole pages of responses overwhelmingly tilted to one side, plus your own attempts at punditry...

Yes. Yes You Are.

[thronzeblast]

If feel sorry for you if you gonna quit marvel because of this hulk if quit capable of taking on black bolt.You have a problem with this and not with the black panther putting the surfer in the choke hold.

[Omega Alpha]

Hulk should be able to take Black Bolt if he is prepared and the circunstances are in his favor, which is the case. If Black Bolt can't open his mouth, he loses, not that hard. Hulk should be able to take nearly anyone on Earth (or the Moon) on similar circunstances.

Except Squirrel Girl, of course:D

[Harding Prime]

And if you want to call me an idiot, at least do it in a way that doesn't make yourself look like a whiney Middle-schooler.

M'kay?

Your saying Kara looks like a Seventh grader...towelee?!? LMAO

NEways, even though it might be the curtain-Jerker fight, it should still be a good one, no?

[hyzmarca]

Hulk should be able to take Black Bolt if he is prepared and the circunstances are in his favor, which is the case. If Black Bolt can't open his mouth, he loses, not that hard. Hulk should be able to take nearly anyone on Earth (or the Moon) on similar circunstances.

Except Squirrel Girl, of course:D

If anyone takes down Hulk, It'll be Squirrel Girl. Compared to her, Black Bolt doesn't stand a chance.

[drupgyu]

First thing's first. Drupgyu, if witty lines, catchphrases, and sheer amount of issues a character's been in are how you evaluate the depth of a character, then I think you should be watching daytime soaps, not collecting comic books.

.

Actually, going by the mostly poor writing that Black Bolt has been subject to save FEW exceptions, I'd say the amount we have to infer he is feeling/saying does not pass for writing. I have read comics for about 30 years; I know full well catch phrases are not what makes good characterization. I figure Alan Moore is about the best comic writer ever and nary a catchphrase appears in his work...

Perhaps had I used a sarcasm bell or a smiley face, you may have gotten I was attempting to be facetious/funny but the joke fell flat. For that I do apologize and no, I am not being sarcastic.

As for issues a character has been in, save very few exceptions, the amount of issues a character has been in shows staying power,workability/malleability of their archetype and depth to which the character can be explored. Heck, popularity too. All of which can show the amount a character can be related to and entertaining. Black Bolt was a B- to C lister even in the days of Stan and Jack. No-one is rushing to make "Fantastic Four the Rise of the Inhumans". I also said I liked the character, and as for serialized fiction, soap operas have more in common with comic books than it does with sit-coms (Gwen Stacy anyone? Matt and Karen Page? Wasp and Hank Pym domestic abuse and trial?)

[Mike Smash!]

Well, that went nowhere fast.