View Full Version : Xavier would have voted...
Kevinroc
06-09-2007, 11:21 AM
Just a simple poll. I'm sure we'll find out by the end of the WWH: X-Men mini, but I'm curious to see what people think the answer would have been.
If Xavier had been at the meeting and voted, he would have voted...
Mike Smash!
06-09-2007, 11:27 AM
Hard to say, but given that he's been turned into a real jerk in the last few years, with that "lost" team of X-Men or enslaving a sentient Danger Room, I'm going to say he would have probably voted Yes.
Kid Kamikaze10
06-09-2007, 12:04 PM
Seeing the type of people he's allowed into the X-Mansion, he'd be the worst type of hypocrite if he agreed to this exile.
Then again, seeing the other members of the Illuminati, being a jerk, hypocrite, and overall douchebag is always on the agenda, so I guess I should change my vote.
Kefky
06-09-2007, 12:13 PM
Actually, I think that at this point, it should pretty obvious that he would vote yes. I mean, c'mon, he's done much worse things.
Doesn't change the fact that he wasn't at the meeting and had nothing to do with the Hulk's exile, though.
Karthak
06-09-2007, 12:21 PM
I'm not really sure. Xavier let Rogue move to the mansion despite the very loud protests of Ms. Marvel and the x-men, and he let Juggernaut come there as well. I don't think that that Xavier would have voted yes, but since writers have been going out of their way to make him an @rse I just don't know.
Brad Barton
06-09-2007, 12:25 PM
Hard to say. Mentally, Xavier has been very Squirrelly lately, and I tend to think he would have gone with the majority vote.
Xavier has an advantage over everyone in that he can look into anyones mind and gain their true feelings on any subject. I think if he had been there and looked into Tony and Reeds minds, he would have seen they truly believed they were helping, and sided with them...
Great question though Kev...
Kefky
06-09-2007, 12:27 PM
Someone explain to me how exiling the Hulk is any worse than turning Mags into a vegetable.
Weapon Ick
06-09-2007, 12:36 PM
With the recent stories of Xavier's past (Danger, X-men 1.5) it does seem like he favors the problem solving strategy of "Let's push this problem off to the side and forget that it ever happened." I think Xavier would have voted for exile and there probably would have been more mind-wiping involved.
Kefky
06-09-2007, 12:39 PM
With the recent stories of Xavier's past (Danger, X-men 1.5) it does seem like he favors the problem solving strategy of "Let's push this problem off to the side and forget that it ever happened." I think Xavier would have voted for exile and there probably would have been more mind-wiping involved.
I don't think you just need to look at recent stuff. Look at Xavier mind wiping people right and left in the first issues of x-men. Claremont didn't exactly write him as the nicest guy in the world either.
scottv
06-09-2007, 12:47 PM
I said that he would have voted against it because I think that he would have wanted to try to fix the problem some how. But since at the time he didn't have powers he might have tried for the easy way out I don't know...
I said that he would have voted against it because I think that he would have wanted to try to fix the problem some how.
Contrast to Dr.Strange and Mr.Fantastic who never bothered trying?
Kefky
06-09-2007, 12:59 PM
Contrast to Dr.Strange and Mr.Fantastic who never bothered trying?
Say what now? They've tried for years. Tony tried too. That was the point of the argument they were having in the Illuminati one-shot. They did everything they could, and it didn't work.
Say what now? They've tried for years. Tony tried too. That was the point of the argument they were having in the Illuminati one-shot. They did everything they could, and it didn't work.
It was a question to the dead-end/give-away answer you've given. It's not like the others, except Black Bolt and maybe Tony, didn't try.
Kefky
06-09-2007, 01:06 PM
It was a question to the dead-end/give-away answer you've given. It's not like the others, except Black Bolt and maybe Tony, didn't try.
Oh, sorry. Misread your post, then. :o
Quinch
06-09-2007, 01:59 PM
I voted Against just because I can't, really can't, believe Namor is the only one with common sense.
Magneto Rocks
06-09-2007, 02:00 PM
Naa.
Xavier would have voted they swap minds between him and the Hulk.
Then Hulk can smash from a wheelchair while Xavier runs around in the Hulk's body and smashes puny humans!
Okay maybe not but that would be the single greatest "What if..." ever!
Quinch
06-09-2007, 02:07 PM
I'd buy it.
hyzmarca
06-09-2007, 03:16 PM
Pre-Jerk Xavier would almost certainly have voted against the Exile so long as Hulk is not an immediate threat. He's given practically everyone second and even third chances. Post-Jerk Xavier, I have no clue.
tjarvis
06-09-2007, 04:38 PM
He would have been against it.
There's no bigger advocate for the virtue of redepmtion in the Marvel Universe than Xavier. Look at what he did for Wolverine, Juggernaut, and Rogue. And what he tried to do for Sabretooth.
Xavier has never given up hope that things that can change, and even with his sometimes underhanded manuvers, that quality of him has never changed.
Dorsai
06-09-2007, 06:53 PM
From what I have seen of Xavier lately, he seems to have as much duplicity and treachary as Tony Stark. I think he would vote for exile.
Why wasn't he at that particular meeting? I don't follow any of the X-titles anymore.
jigrig
06-09-2007, 06:59 PM
Definately against it if He knew what Banner was doing at the time, living peacefully in The Alaskan wilderness, about to make money selling hand caught smoked salmon, The Gamma Hulk Smoked Salmon Company. so He beat the hell out of a couple of rapists whom I firmly believe should at the very least be locked up for life without parole, better yet send them all to an uninhabited planet & let them do their thing to each other.
Oh & by the way, anybody who thinks Marvel is going to turn The Original Hulk into Ultimate Hulk, murdering innocent people is very mistaken, talk about burning bridges.
If He were the merciless killer & terrorist some posters would try to make everyone believe He is, Black Bolt would be dead & make His threat much more convincing.
He isnt intentionally going to kill anyone, the fact that Johnny Blaze isnt killed by Hulk when He tries to stop Him is proof enough for Me.
jeffmace
06-09-2007, 08:15 PM
Hard to say. After all, the X-Men haven't had much of a presence in the Hulk's history (save for Wolverine). Maybe if Xavier puts that brain of his to good use, he'll vote no if he knows what's good for him.
Syzygy
06-09-2007, 08:40 PM
He would have been against it.
There's no bigger advocate for the virtue of redepmtion in the Marvel Universe than Xavier. Look at what he did for Wolverine, Juggernaut, and Rogue. And what he tried to do for Sabretooth.
Xavier has never given up hope that things that can change, and even with his sometimes underhanded manuvers, that quality of him has never changed.
Agree. And he'd immediately understand that many would make the same argument in favor of exiling mutants.
Brad Barton
06-09-2007, 10:04 PM
Agree. And he'd immediately understand that many would make the same argument in favor of exiling mutants.But, again, as the other guy put it, this is "Post-jerk" Xavier.
You know, the one who knew that the Danger Room was a sentient being and still opted to keep it "imprisoned".
I think Joss Whedon has shown us that Xavier isn't quite the saint we always thought he was, and he's capable of making very heartless decisions.
Plus, look at Strange. The only thing that sold him on Hulk's exile was the fact that he thought they were sending him to a peaceful place, where he could be "happy". No reason to assume Xavier wouldn't have felt the same way...
Syzygy
06-09-2007, 10:21 PM
No reason to assume Xavier wouldn't have felt the same way...
Here's my reason:
Xavier has never given up hope that things that can change, and even with his sometimes underhanded maneuvers, that quality of him has never changed.
thronzeblast
06-09-2007, 11:15 PM
But, again, as the other guy put it, this is "Post-jerk" Xavier.
You know, the one who knew that the Danger Room was a sentient being and still opted to keep it "imprisoned".
I think Joss Whedon has shown us that Xavier isn't quite the saint we always thought he was, and he's capable of making very heartless decisions.
Plus, look at Strange. The only thing that sold him on Hulk's exile was the fact that he thought they were sending him to a peaceful place, where he could be "happy". No reason to assume Xavier wouldn't have felt the same way...
Yeah that's the thing the thing's xavier's been pulling lately i dont think anyone know's how he would have voted.
Here's my reason:
IIRC Xavier did sort of give up on Wanda.
Xanrn
06-10-2007, 12:10 PM
Well the minor fact she was turning his brain to pulp with the sheer effort of keeping her under control...
She obiviously overpowered him in the end to begin HoM anyway.
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