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Lester C.
06-08-2007, 06:29 PM
I only watch TV shows when they come out as DVD box sets and only when there is at least five seasons. As a result I have zero experience with her, but she's always in the news and people are obsessed with her. The amount of hate directed toward her and the joy people are taking at her incarceration is insane given the fact she is socialite rather than a mass murder. Anyway I was wondering just what is it about Paris that makes here such a magnet for media attention and why people are obsessed with her.

heystacy
06-08-2007, 06:34 PM
I'm not sure why she's so popular. It doesn't matter to me, but her DUI charge and probation isn't a joke.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 06:41 PM
People are fascinated because she is on TV,and for "news" shows that focus on celebrities and for "magazines" that focus on celebrities,gossip,or both,Paris generates ALOT of revenue for them.

The short awnser Lester? MONEY.

Sex also enters it. People,as a general mob,seem to be inclined to enjoy having "famous" people being torn down. She was barely on anyones notice until her sex tape surfaced,and seeing a rich heiress having sex seemed to create a celebrity status for her,enough to start her own never-ending escapades.

I refuse to read or watch tv news shows that deal with her,and if i happen to see her for even a second,i turn the channel. Unlike other teens and early 20somethings with problems that are becoming all too common,Paris is the only one that i have no sympathy or liking for.

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 06:43 PM
I'm not sure why she's so popular. It doesn't matter to me, but her DUI charge and probation isn't a joke.

According to the AP she went to jail because she violated her parole for reckless driving rather than driving under the influence. In any case DUIs aren't a big deal in California unless you hit something or infinitely worse someone. Where I'm from in IL driving under the influence is a very, very big deal as I think it should be. In California though it's a misdemeanor.

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 06:44 PM
People are fascinated because she is on TV,and for "news" shows that focus on celebrities and for "magazines" that focus on celebrities,gossip,or both,Paris generates ALOT of revenue for them.

The short awnser Lester? MONEY.

Sex also enters it. People,as a general mob,seem to be inclined to enjoy having "famous" people being torn down. She was barely on anyones notice until her sex tape surfaced,and seeing a rich heiress having sex seemed to create a celebrity status for her,enough to start her own never-ending escapades.

I refuse to read or watch tv news shows that deal with her,and if i happen to see her for even a second,i turn the channel. Unlike other teens and early something with problems that are becoming all too common,Paris is the only one that i have no sympathy or liking for.

Other than her sex tape, which most people haven't seen, what else has she done that warrants celebrity status? She's famous for being famous.

diana_fan
06-08-2007, 07:03 PM
People are obsessed with her because they hate her. They hate her for all sorts of reasons. But the fact that she is insanely wealthy doesn't help.

If she were a dumpy, poor person who said the same things, no one would give a damn.

heystacy
06-08-2007, 07:25 PM
According to the AP she went to jail because she violated her parole for reckless driving rather than driving under the influence. In any case DUIs aren't a big deal in California unless you hit something or infinitely worse someone. Where I'm from in IL driving under the influence is a very, very big deal as I think it should be. In California though it's a misdemeanor.

This tells you how much I know about Paris. :(

I hear she's going back to jail though.

TCJohnson
06-08-2007, 07:28 PM
Other than her sex tape, which most people haven't seen, what else has she done that warrants celebrity status? She's famous for being famous.

Well, to be fair, she has her own TV show (http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0362153/) that is in it's 5th season.

titanfan
06-08-2007, 07:28 PM
According to the AP she went to jail because she violated her parole for reckless driving rather than driving under the influence. In any case DUIs aren't a big deal in California unless you hit something or infinitely worse someone. Where I'm from in IL driving under the influence is a very, very big deal as I think it should be. In California though it's a misdemeanor.

- Her first offense was a DUI, she was pulled over because she was driving recklessly.
- Her 2nd offense was driving with a suspended license.
- She then got pulled over for driving with a suspended license again. That got her the jail time.

There's a lot of hate for her in this case because many felt that she was being
let off because of her celebrity and/or status. Only served 5 (really 3) days out of 23 (for "health" reasons, not overcrowding--which is why people usually get out early) and then gets sentenced to "house arrest", which doesn't seem like any punishment when you live in a mansion....

As for why people are obsessed with her? She's interesting. We don't have many born into privilege rich socialites in the USA, at least compared to the majority of middle class people.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 07:29 PM
People are obsessed with her because they hate her. They hate her for all sorts of reasons. But the fact that she is insanely wealthy doesn't help.

If she were a dumpy, poor person who said the same things, no one would give a damn.


They hate her because she does ridiculous things that normal people would NOT get away with,and has LOTS of non-earned money so the things she does SHOULDN'T of HAPPENED in the FIRST place. Constantly being bombarded every damn day with her image and antics by the entertainment media will make ANYONE sick of celebrity. I can name about 2 dozen celebs off the top of my head that i think most of us are sick of as well. I won't,because i do not want to turn this into a celeb du jour rant. Paris is a rich porn/reality star who got caught DUI,and is getting prefered treatment due to her celebrity status,and that infuriates the public.

If she WAS a dumpy,poor person,she would most likely be serving HARD jail time for her actions.

The media is feeding us Moral Outrage as a comercial product,and the public is buying it.

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 07:33 PM
This tells you how much I know about Paris. :(

I hear she's going back to jail though.

First she's going to the mental hospital for observation allegedly for the weekend. I say allegedly because my Uncle Ramsey went to a mental hospital for observation and they kept the poor bastard there for thirty years. He was never convicted or even charged of a crime but he went at 20 and was released to my aunt at the age of 48 or 49.:eek:

Charles RB
06-08-2007, 07:33 PM
According to the AP she went to jail because she violated her parole for reckless driving rather than driving under the influence.

She'd had previous offenses for drunk-driving, which is why her license was suspended.

So, a dangerous driver with a history of dangerous driving violated her probation & driving without a license. Am I glad she's in jail for that? Hell yes, she's breaking the law and could kill someone.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 07:35 PM
She'd had previous offenses for drunk-driving, which is why her license was suspended.

So, a dangerous driver with a history of dangerous driving violated her probation & driving without a license. Am I glad she's in jail for that? Hell yes, she's breaking the law and could kill someone.

Amen Charles.

ZOMG! Thats three. Three times IN A ROW that i have agreed with you!

Is it going to be raining cat and dogs now? ;)

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 07:40 PM
She'd had previous offenses for drunk-driving, which is why her license was suspended.

So, a dangerous driver with a history of dangerous driving violated her probation & driving without a license. Am I glad she's in jail for that? Hell yes, she's breaking the law and could kill someone.

That's not what she went away for. She went away for a probation violation for reckless driving, which is excessive punishment for that particular offense.

heystacy
06-08-2007, 07:41 PM
First she's going to the mental hospital for observation allegedly for the weekend. I say allegedly because my Uncle Ramsey went to a mental hospital for observation and they kept the poor bastard there for thirty years. He was never convicted or even charged of a crime but he went at 20 and was released to my aunt at the age of 48 or 49.:eek:

Geez. Sorry about your uncle.

I think that Paris' actions should have consequences. She keeps finding ways to party. Let her party in jail.

My brother was hit by a drunk driver, with a suspended license. I have little sympathy for her if jail's too tough.

Cam63
06-08-2007, 07:41 PM
I have more scorn for those who sign her up for TV, movie, fashion and record deals worth millions.

As for Paris ? She's as useful as a screen door on a submarine.

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 07:48 PM
I think it's the kids today. Back in my day you never heard of Alicia Silverstone getting into legal trouble.

heystacy
06-08-2007, 08:02 PM
I think it's the kids today. Back in my day you never heard of Alicia Silverstone getting into legal trouble.

Some of these celebs are extremely press hungry. They do whatever puts them on TV. Somewhere negative attention has equated to great attention.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 08:19 PM
Back in MY day Lester we had dinosaurs and other war-mongering neaderthal tribes to worry about that these things didn't usually occur. And we had yet to invent the wheel,too. :rolleyes:

heystacy
06-08-2007, 08:29 PM
Back in MY day Lester we had dinosaurs and other war-mongering neaderthal tribes to worry about that these things didn't usually occur. And we had yet to invent the wheel,too. :rolleyes:

That brontosaurus was a primadonna. :eek:

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 08:31 PM
That brontosaurus was a primadonna. :eek:

Least we didn't have to create silly new ones like Spinosaurus to sell silly movie sequels.

(yes yes i know its a "real" critter. let us not go there.)

heystacy
06-08-2007, 08:32 PM
Least we didn't have to create silly new ones like Spinosaurus to sell silly movie sequels.

(yes yes i know its a "real" critter. let us not go there.)

I'm just saying did every tar pit have to have her tracks on it? :rolleyes:

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 08:34 PM
I'm just saying did every tar pit have to have her tracks on it? :rolleyes:

What did you expect? She was too big to beat the tar out of. :rolleyes:

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 08:34 PM
Back in MY day Lester we had dinosaurs and other war-mongering neaderthal tribes to worry about that these things didn't usually occur. And we had yet to invent the wheel,too. :rolleyes:

Well FF back in MY day I would have have sold my dad's house out from under him to get a look at Alica's drunken celebrity sex tape so it's just as good that she didn't make one.

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 08:35 PM
I have more scorn for those who sign her up for TV, movie, fashion and record deals worth millions.

As for Paris ? She's as useful as a screen door on a submarine.

Cam has the best one liners on the planet Earth.

heystacy
06-08-2007, 08:35 PM
What did you expect? She was too big to beat the tar out of. :rolleyes:

Ohhh! That hurt me.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 08:37 PM
Well FF back in MY day I would have have sold my dad's house out from under him to get a look at Alica's drunken celebrity sex tape so it's just as good that she didn't make one.

Are you SURE of that? :D :rolleyes:

Let me go on record saying that i would NOT be surprised if one surfaced.

Back in my day,Tiffany and Debbie Gibson were teen pop singers.
Now they are former Playboy pictorials. :rolleyes: :eek:

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 08:37 PM
Ohhh! That hurt me.

Tarnation! I was hoping that would do you in,you varmit! :rolleyes:

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 08:38 PM
Night stopped posting, which is a shame because I was waiting to ask him what FF stood for. Then I would have posted this which relaxes me for some reason.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/Melodyamor/Melody%207/Melody%209/Melody%2010/417901224_l.gif

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 08:39 PM
Night stopped posting, which is a shame because I was waiting to ask him what FF stood for. Then I would have posted this which relaxes me for some reason.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h69/Melodyamor/Melody%207/Melody%209/Melody%2010/417901224_l.gif

I did post,you ninny! I just figured it was a typo,of which i forgive other posters for because heaven knows i make enough of them as it is. :rolleyes:

Kyuubi
06-08-2007, 08:40 PM
I feel bad for Paris.



She didn't get to pass go. She didn't even get to collect $200.

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 08:44 PM
I did post,you ninny! I just figured it was a typo,of which i forgive other posters for because heaven knows i make enough of them as it is. :rolleyes:

You're using invisble mode, something new for you, so I thought you left.:o

Cam63
06-08-2007, 08:45 PM
The money will come after she gets out and I'm sure the interviews/book details will be fascinating.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 08:47 PM
You're using invisble mode, something new for you, so I thought you left.:o

I have been using invisible mode for several months now. You already KNOW the reason why. And i prefer it this way,so it stays like this,forever.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 08:48 PM
I feel bad for Paris.



She didn't get to pass go. She didn't even get to collect $200.

Hopefully she will be forced from Boardwalk and will have to start hunting down a home around Vermont Avenue instead. :rolleyes:

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 09:01 PM
Geez. Sorry about your uncle.

I think that Paris' actions should have consequences. She keeps finding ways to party. Let her party in jail.

My brother was hit by a drunk driver, with a suspended license. I have little sympathy for her if jail's too tough.

This all happened before I was born, but my Uncle, even as a teenager, was so violent and insane that is was a relief to the entire family when they put him away. This alone tells you how insane he must have been as Assyrians are very close knit families with generations of them living in the same house.

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 09:02 PM
I have been using invisible mode for several months now. You already KNOW the reason why. And i prefer it this way,so it stays like this,forever.

For some reason I didn't notice until now. That's my bad.

Corrina
06-08-2007, 09:05 PM
Well, she's a very, very rich person who has managed to do absolutely nothing meaningful or important in her life. In fact, she's managed to go backwards.

In other words, she's really fucked up, giving those of us with much less money and fame but not nearly as fucked up, the right to feel superior.

Or, maybe that's just me. :)

diana_fan
06-08-2007, 09:12 PM
Well, she's a very, very rich person who has managed to do absolutely nothing meaningful or important in her life. In fact, she's managed to go backwards.

In other words, she's really fucked up, giving those of us with much less money and fame but not nearly as fucked up, the right to feel superior.

Or, maybe that's just me. :)

She's very rich, and she started out that way. The thing is, she made a lot of money on her own. Millions and millions, with jewelry and perfume and stuff like that. Of course, it's easy as hell to make money when you already have it. You have nothing to lose.

I just think the Paris-bashing (and I don't believe she's a nice girl, don't get me wrong) is way over the top and, actually, sort of sad.

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 09:18 PM
Well, she's a very, very rich person who has managed to do absolutely nothing meaningful or important in her life. In fact, she's managed to go backwards.

In other words, she's really fucked up, giving those of us with much less money and fame but not nearly as fucked up, the right to feel superior.

Or, maybe that's just me. :)

Yes, but the hate for her is on the level of OJ Simpson, which baffles me. Now OJ earned that hatred by murdering two people and getting away with it. Paris hasn't hurt anyone yet other than herself.

Corrina
06-08-2007, 09:19 PM
Well, I feel totally not guilty bashing someone picked up for DUI, had their license suspended then get picked up TWICE for driving while the license was suspended.

Especially when said person has the monetary means to have a limo on call 24/7.

I'd be perfectly happy bashing Joe Smoe for that one.

ETA: If she was driving drunk, she certainly could have hurt someone. That she didn't only means she got lucky again.

Tommy
06-08-2007, 09:23 PM
Yes, but the hate for her is on the level of OJ Simpson, which baffles me. Now OJ earned that hatred by murdering two people and getting away with it. Paris hasn't hurt anyone yet other than herself.

The reason people seem to “hate” Paris Hilton and delight in her suffering (aka pure shadenfreude) is that her personal stances (which admittedly she probably didn’t realize she was making) have caused her to be the perfect symbol of what many, many, MANY people are against.

Class Warfare: Paris was born with more money than most people will ever see in their lives. In fact she spends more money on a birthday party than most people make in their lives. She did nothing to deserve this money, and her billions of opportunities (including all the money she has managed to earn through books, TV and modeling) come from this money. She is the perfect symbol of an American Aristocracy who though undeserving is ruling this country.

Feminism: Paris has taken her sexuality and made it into her own means of generating money/fame. Whether it is a sex tape entering the public sphere right before her TV show airs, showing her vagina to the paparazzi, or her parade of boyfriends she has whored herself to a remarkable extent. And in so doing has taught a generation of young girls to sleep their way to the top.

Morality: A few years ago we were all talking about people voting for moral values. Well Paris has shown little/no ethics whatsoever. She showed her lack of commitment when she participated in a “vote or die” campaign and didn’t vote. She showed her lack of sexual morality when her armature porn hit the air. And now she is attempting to undermine the legal system flouting ethics once more.

Celebrity Culture: People are now getting fatigued with the non-stop press that celebrities receive. Events like Anna Nicole’s funeral paint the current celebrity mania in the worst possible light. And who is the most obvious target for Celebrity/Tabloid ire? Paris Hilton. The woman who has done nothing to deserve any kind of fame other than act like a stupid spoiled whore, and yet she is covered almost daily by the entertainment news.

Paris Hilton is public enemy number one since she has made her notoriety off being everything wrong with American culture in many people’s eyes.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 09:28 PM
She's very rich, and she started out that way. The thing is, she made a lot of money on her own. Millions and millions, with jewelry and perfume and stuff like that. Of course, it's easy as hell to make money when you already have it. You have nothing to lose.

I just think the Paris-bashing (and I don't believe she's a nice girl, don't get me wrong) is way over the top and, actually, sort of sad.

um. Nevermind! :)

diana_fan
06-08-2007, 09:29 PM
Well, I feel totally not guilty bashing someone picked up for DUI, had their license suspended then get picked up TWICE for driving while the license was suspended.

Especially when said person has the monetary means to have a limo on call 24/7.

I'd be perfectly happy bashing Joe Smoe for that one.

ETA: If she was driving drunk, she certainly could have hurt someone. That she didn't only means she got lucky again.

Don't feel guilty. I never said you should.

But the Paris bashing began long before this whole debacle. And I just think it is sad.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 09:32 PM
Don't feel guilty. I never said you should.

But the Paris bashing began long before this whole debacle. And I just think it is sad.

Sigh. For some reason,i really can't understand it,i somehow can not feel sympathetic to Paris Hilton. :rolleyes:

And for some reason,maybe related to the one above,i can not understand anyone not closely related or close friends with her would feel sympathy for her. I doubt she wants sympathy unless it has some obvious gain for her..like say less jail time? :rolleyes:

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 09:34 PM
Well, I feel totally not guilty bashing someone picked up for DUI, had their license suspended then get picked up TWICE for driving while the license was suspended.

Especially when said person has the monetary means to have a limo on call 24/7.

I'd be perfectly happy bashing Joe Smoe for that one.

ETA: If she was driving drunk, she certainly could have hurt someone. That she didn't only means she got lucky again.

I worked at a rehab hospital for a year and I've seen the effects of drinking and driving so I know first hand why it's so important that we have tough, tough laws on the books to punish all offenders. I would go home and cry at the end of each shift and I'm not ashamed to admit that given what I saw day in and day out.

That said Mel Gibson went into an antisemitic tirade after he drank and drive and Brandy killed someone and they are both got nowhere near the hatred Paris is getting from the American Public even though they probably should have. There is something about Paris that makes people want to hate her and see her burn, and I think it's for all the reasons Tommy said.

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 09:38 PM
Don't feel guilty. I never said you should.

But the Paris bashing began long before this whole debacle. And I just think it is sad.

I don't fell sad that Paris is in prison or is suffering. I hate her as much as everyone else and was overjoyed when I heard her sentence. I've never had that reaction before so it took me by surprise hence this thread. I want to understand why I feel the way I do, because it's bothering me that I have emotions that I don't know where they are coming from.

To make matters worse I didn't even know about the drunk driving thing, and I still wanted her to go down. In other words I wanted what I thought to be a harmless woman to get knocked off her pedestal and suffer and that bothers me because it says more about me than it does about her.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 09:40 PM
I worked at a rehab hospital for a year and I've seen the effects of drinking and driving so I know first hand why it's so important that we have tough, tough laws on the books to punish all offenders. I would go home and cry at the end of each shift and I'm not ashamed to admit that given what I saw day in and day out.

That said Mel Gibson went into an antisemitic tirade after he drank and drive and Brandy killed someone and they are both got nowhere near the hatred Paris is getting from the American Public even though they probably should have. There is something about Paris that makes people want to hate her and see her burn, and I think it's for all the reasons Tommy said.

I think Mel DID get ripped to shreds by the media,and it will be a long time before you see him in a feature film as the star. Right now,he is a pariah in hollywood in reguards to acting. He is doing the smart thing and laying low and letting it blow over.

Brandy's troubles have JUST begun. Expect HER to go to jail. Death really has a way of taking away ANY and ALL sympathies the public might have for her.

And Poor Ol' Paris. Boo Hoo.
Paris has shown total disrespect of the law,and the lack of intelligence to be driving a vehicle. She COMPLETELY deserves not only the sentence,but a much harsher one. ON top of that,she should have her liscense permently revoked in the state of California.
Oh wow..now she will need a driver. Poor thing,how WILL she ever afford that! Time to make another porn video! :rolleyes:

diana_fan
06-08-2007, 10:02 PM
I was saying that the bashing was sad.

Not that I feel sad for her.

Lester C.
06-08-2007, 10:06 PM
I think Mel DID get ripped to shreds by the media,and it will be a long time before you see him in a feature film as the star. Right now,he is a pariah in hollywood in reguards to acting. He is doing the smart thing and laying low and letting it blow over.

Brandy's troubles have JUST begun. Expect HER to go to jail. Death really has a way of taking away ANY and ALL sympathies the public might have for her.

And Poor Ol' Paris. Boo Hoo.
Paris has shown total disrespect of the law,and the lack of intelligence to be driving a vehicle. She COMPLETELY deserves not only the sentence,but a much harsher one. ON top of that,she should have her liscense permently revoked in the state of California.
Oh wow..now she will need a driver. Poor thing,how WILL she ever afford that! Time to make another porn video! :rolleyes:

Mel Gibson had the number one movie in the country and it was sickening the number of people I heard defending him. Regarding the Brandy story I remembered it wrong.:o She was never tested for alcohol or drugs so there is no evidence that they were a factor in her driving. It's been recommended that she be charged with misdemeanor charge of vehicular manslaughter but so far it's a no go. In my opinion the cops on the scene really fucked up by not testing her for drugs but that's neither here nor there.

Kyuubi
06-08-2007, 10:17 PM
I think Mel DID get ripped to shreds by the media,and it will be a long time before you see him in a feature film as the star. Right now,he is a pariah in hollywood in reguards to acting. He is doing the smart thing and laying low and letting it blow over.

Brandy's troubles have JUST begun. Expect HER to go to jail. Death really has a way of taking away ANY and ALL sympathies the public might have for her.

And Poor Ol' Paris. Boo Hoo.
Paris has shown total disrespect of the law,and the lack of intelligence to be driving a vehicle. She COMPLETELY deserves not only the sentence,but a much harsher one. ON top of that,she should have her liscense permently revoked in the state of California.
Oh wow..now she will need a driver. Poor thing,how WILL she ever afford that! Time to make another porn video! :rolleyes:




I call the McLaren!



I wouldn't mind having to clean up all the empty beer bottles, condom wrappers, and discarded panties.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 10:33 PM
I was saying that the bashing was sad.

Not that I feel sad for her.

You are right. People been bashing Paris since she became a celeb,which i recall was once her Porn became public consumption. Rich Heiress having sex,and that made her a celeb. Wow,imagine no bashing for that.

Rich Heiress then releases the porn video to capitalize and make money. Becomes a top selling porn video. Wow,imagine no bashing for that.

Rich Heiress then tries to sing,and fails miserably. Wow,imagine no bashing for that.

Rich Heiress then tries to be a movie star,starring in that great cinematic masterpiece,the remake of House Of Wax. Wow,imagine no bashing for that.

Rich Heiress then shifts gears to Reality TV,and creates a successful tv show with a very weak premise. But two rich blonde girls with very little intelligence seem to be what the average TV audience wants,and gets several seasons of this show. Wow,imagine no bashing for that.

Rich Heiress during ALL the above idiotic escapades is constantly drinking,doing drugs,and partying like no tomorrow. Wow,imagine no bashing for that.

And now,she violates her probation,and faces jail time.
That isn't bashing any more..that is cries of outrage that this idiot is wasting so much of the media's time,and ours.

Funny thing is,until this thread,i really didn't give a damn about her. I still do not,but i am tired of wasting my time outlaying WHY no ONE should even CARE if she gets bashed on,or if the bashing is deserved. IT IS A SELF INFLICTED WOUND.

But i like to point out one thing,one that has gone mostly unnoticed.
Paris has a younger sister. Both tried the celebrity thing at the beginning.
But the sister quietly got married,and is now living a life OUT of the spotlight.

SHE is the smart one.

Night Swordsman
06-08-2007, 10:33 PM
I call the McLaren!



I wouldn't mind having to clean up all the empty beer bottles, condom wrappers, and discarded panties.

Get OUT of Aggies HOUSE! I TOLD you about that! :rolleyes:

Cam63
06-08-2007, 11:12 PM
The main differance between Mel Gibson and Paris is he's donated millions of dollars to charities over the years, whereas Paris couldn't give a shit about anything unless she got something out of it.

I hope he's learned something from the shit he's been in.

PatrickG
06-09-2007, 01:52 AM
I heard not too long ago that despite being an heiress, she's really not all that rich and her inheritance is pretty much blown.

From what I gather, she's been making the real money as a personality, banking on the "heiress" image, kindof like those nobles who rent out the family estate as a tourist attraction to pay for nice clothes and a modest house or flat somewhere.

Nick Soapdish
06-09-2007, 03:05 AM
That's not what she went away for. She went away for a probation violation for reckless driving, which is excessive punishment for that particular offense.

Ok, so she had a suspended license due to a DUI.

Then she drove despite that suspended license and got caught, presumably because of some sort of traffic infraction and got put on probation.

And then she drove again, still with a suspended license and now on probation and got caught again, this time for reckless driving. 70 MPH in a 35 MPH zone and without lights even though it was dark.

What is the "proper" punishment for that sort of offense?

And why does California have such excessive punishments for such an offense? (Ok, that's a stupid question. States and municipalities have stupid laws all the time.) In my opinion, the punishment for DUI and especially multiple DUIs (which isn't the problem here) is too lenient.

As to why people hate Paris?

You know that rich kid that everybody knew growing up? The kid that always had everything handed to them on a silver platter and simply accepted that as their right? It's bad enough that they get everything is enough to instill resentment, but to not even appreciate it just pours salt on the wound. She's that kid times a thousand.

It's probably a minor factor for a lot of people, but her dishonesty/hypocrisy also may contribute. Such as promoting the Vote or Die campaign and not voting. Or pledging to organize a big concert for Paradise Kids (but failing to do so) and then claiming that the publicity she gave to the group gave them $500,000 in checks. The group disagrees, saying that the publicity has hurt their efforts to garner donations because people think that they're already getting money.

Spike-X
06-09-2007, 03:32 AM
It's probably a minor factor for a lot of people, but her dishonesty/hypocrisy also may contribute. Such as promoting the Vote or Die campaign and not voting.

Or dying.

















10chr

Cam63
06-09-2007, 05:14 AM
Or dying.

She'll get around to it in around ten-fifteen years.

The Beast Of Yucca Flats
06-09-2007, 05:21 AM
She'll get around to it in around ten-fifteen years.

I say we just lock her in a Wal-Mart overnight & wait for her survival instincts to save her.

(stop giggling!)

LtMarvel
06-09-2007, 05:44 AM
When I care to consider her plight, I have to remind myself that unlike the other annoying, always in trouble twenty something women the press goes nuts about, Paris became famous through being rich. She isn't a child actress gone wrong or naive songstress.

She's just a rich kid who decided to take her money and be as famous as she could be.

And when I remember this, I lose 100% of any sympathy I might have had for her.

heystacy
06-09-2007, 07:39 AM
This all happened before I was born, but my Uncle, even as a teenager, was so violent and insane that is was a relief to the entire family when they put him away. This alone tells you how insane he must have been as Assyrians are very close knit families with generations of them living in the same house.

Damn! :eek:

heystacy
06-09-2007, 07:46 AM
I worked at a rehab hospital for a year and I've seen the effects of drinking and driving so I know first hand why it's so important that we have tough, tough laws on the books to punish all offenders. I would go home and cry at the end of each shift and I'm not ashamed to admit that given what I saw day in and day out.

That said Mel Gibson went into an antisemitic tirade after he drank and drive and Brandy killed someone and they are both got nowhere near the hatred Paris is getting from the American Public even though they probably should have. There is something about Paris that makes people want to hate her and see her burn, and I think it's for all the reasons Tommy said.

Part of that has to do with when you read an entertainment report, say for an article on an upcoming movie, you see a tacked by headline like, "Paris Hilton says..." One article is overkill.

Who is this chick, and what does she do? She's wealthy, likes to party, and cause troubles to get her name in the headlines. Now she's caused some trouble, and her fame is working against her. Its not surprising.

Cam63
06-09-2007, 08:45 AM
In an attempt to get out earlier through sick leave, a pissed off judge sent her back to prison to serve the original 45 day sentence rather than the more lenient 23 day one she would have done if she kept her mouth shut.

Yes, Paris really Olneyed herself.

Sarah Beach
06-09-2007, 08:51 AM
Gibson (after he sobered up) was willing to do what he could/can to NOT get in that situation again.

I don't think that in Brandy's case she was driving drunk. As I recall it, that was one unfortunate freak accident on the freeway. But you can correct me on that if you can find the facts.

But Paris -- in addition to the TWO stops after her license was suspended, was stupid enough to think that her publicist's knowledge regarding its status trumped that of police officers with direct access to the record. Plus, there have been enough occasions when she's been seen driving in public badly where the cops weren't called. As I remember, there was one occasion a year or so ago, when she was leaving her then boyfriend's place one night, where she backed into someone else's vehicle, took out its headlights, and drove off without bothering to check or leave a note. In front of papparattzi with video, of the accident itself.

She is careless, and indifferent to the consequences of her actions, and needs a SERIOUS lesson in consequences before she does serious injury/damage to people and property. As a person herself, she's one of the vacuuous creatures I've ever seen achieve such noteriety. As an object of noteriety, she's dangerous because too many are fascinated by her and want to emulate her. (God help us!)

Charles RB
06-09-2007, 09:17 AM
I heard not too long ago that despite being an heiress, she's really not all that rich and her inheritance is pretty much blown.

She's 26 and her family are uber-rich, how much has she been spending if she's blown her entire inheritance?! :eek:

As I remember, there was one occasion a year or so ago, when she was leaving her then boyfriend's place one night, where she backed into someone else's vehicle, took out its headlights, and drove off without bothering to check or leave a note. In front of papparattzi with video, of the accident itself.

I've heard people say she must actually be somewhat intelligent because she manipulates the media, and that anecdote proves all those people wrong.

cedardryad
06-09-2007, 11:58 AM
As much as I don't care at all about her, I'm convinced she is the female Bruce Wayne. She has admitted that she baby talks for more publicity. So you never know.:rolleyes:

Alex Dragon
06-09-2007, 12:15 PM
Many people simply don't like Paris out of a jealous/envious/disgust type of feeling of her success/fame that they don't feel she deserves. She doesn't seem to have any type of real talent or put any sort of work to get what she has and some people don't like it or think it's fair. There are lots of other rich kids out there that mess up all the time but keep a low profile or the media doesn't care about. Paris wanted to be famous and did the necessary steps to do it. Before Paris bcame as well known as she is now she was well known in New York as the rich kid that hung out at all the cool parties and hung out with the "cool" people of New York's night life. Photographers would attend these parties hoping to get pics of famous people and while the famous people shunned the cameras Paris would gladly pose for them in her skimpy outfits and big smile and let them snap away. Paris is pretty and has a certain sex appeal to some so how wrong can they go by printing the pics of the pretty daughter of a rich/famous hotel millionaire?

As time went on she became more and more famous. Fame sometimes feeds on itself and at some point some people become famous for being famous. When her sex tape came out that took her to the next level. I don't know if it's true but I heard that her mother was actually happy that the sex tape came out and helped make her famous. Her mom has always wanted to be an actress or entertainer or celeb herself and wanted to fame for Paris. If it is true it makes sense because the parents never seemed to try to guide Paris into making anything more of herself. If you look at Donald Trump's daughter she the total opposite of Paris. She's the pretty daughter of a property millionaire but went to school, tries to keep a low profile, and works along beside her father in business and carries herself in a very professional way. Parental guidence is the factor that seperates the two.

The tabloids and media will probably always report on Paris because she does things that are interesting to watch and she doesn't really try to avoid them. There's always excess and drama in her lifeand she hangs out with other celebs so there's always something going on in her life that makes for good tabloid fodder. The people who hate her take great joy in hearing when she messes up. She's rich, pretty (to some), likes to party, lives in excess, has a feeling of entitlement, immature, no real responsiblities and lots of free time. She has all the ingredients of being a mark for the tabloids and people wanting to see what she's up to and being delighted when things go wrong.

Alex Dragon
06-09-2007, 12:21 PM
As much as I don't care at all about her, I'm convinced she is the female Bruce Wayne. She has admitted that she baby talks for more publicity. So you never know.:rolleyes:

Well, she does have a public persona. People who actually know her says she's not quite as ditzy as she protrays heself in public and say she's kinda fun to hang with. The public image she has is one she built for herself (parts of it at least).

Tommy
06-09-2007, 12:28 PM
Well, she does have a public persona. People who actually know her says she's not quite as ditzy as she protrays heself in public and say she's kinda fun to hang with. The public image she has is one she built for herself (parts of it at least).

On the other side, the producers of her reality show (the Simple Life) have admitted to the press that most of her crazy, but witty stunts on the show are planed by them. So while she might not be as ditzy as she comes off, she also is no where near as funny or witty.

Alex Dragon
06-09-2007, 01:10 PM
On the other side, the producers of her reality show (the Simple Life) have admitted to the press that most of her crazy, but witty stunts on the show are planed by them. So while she might not be as ditzy as she comes off, she also is no where near as funny or witty.

I haven't watched THE SIMPLE LIFE since 3 episodes into the first season so I have no idea how she's presented there. But most reality shows have little to do with "reality". She plays up the baby voice and some of the ditzy stuff for the public but she isn't really that bad in real life. Michael Jackson and plenty of other celebs do the same type of thing to stand out or to seem more interesting.

No one claims Paris to be particularly smart or witty but they say she can be funny and is fun to hang with. I don't find that hard to believe. I know people who are the same way but don't have the fame or money. There's a long list of celebrity kids and rich kids who really have no real skills to fall back on and don't have to work and would love to be a famous as Paris. They have no real responsibilities and thery're free to just hang out and party as much as they please and money is never a problem. That can make for some fun times.

Charles RB
06-09-2007, 01:45 PM
They have no real responsibilities and thery're free to just hang out and party as much as they please and money is never a problem.

And, it appears, break the law and do acts that could kill people and seemingly ignore the fact that they're supposed to follow the law.

So bollocks to them.

Night Swordsman
06-09-2007, 04:13 PM
Many people simply don't like Paris out of a jealous/envious/disgust type of feeling of her success/fame that they don't feel she deserves. She doesn't seem to have any type of real talent or put any sort of work to get what she has and some people don't like it or think it's fair. There are lots of other rich kids out there that mess up all the time but keep a low profile or the media doesn't care about. Paris wanted to be famous and did the necessary steps to do it. Before Paris bcame as well known as she is now she was well known in New York as the rich kid that hung out at all the cool parties and hung out with the "cool" people of New York's night life. Photographers would attend these parties hoping to get pics of famous people and while the famous people shunned the cameras Paris would gladly pose for them in her skimpy outfits and big smile and let them snap away. Paris is pretty and has a certain sex appeal to some so how wrong can they go by printing the pics of the pretty daughter of a rich/famous hotel millionaire?

As time went on she became more and more famous. Fame sometimes feeds on itself and at some point some people become famous for being famous. When her sex tape came out that took her to the next level. I don't know if it's true but I heard that her mother was actually happy that the sex tape came out and helped make her famous. Her mom has always wanted to be an actress or entertainer or celeb herself and wanted to fame for Paris. If it is true it makes sense because the parents never seemed to try to guide Paris into making anything more of herself. If you look at Donald Trump's daughter she the total opposite of Paris. She's the pretty daughter of a property millionaire but went to school, tries to keep a low profile, and works along beside her father in business and carries herself in a very professional way. Parental guidence is the factor that seperates the two.

The tabloids and media will probably always report on Paris because she does things that are interesting to watch and she doesn't really try to avoid them. There's always excess and drama in her lifeand she hangs out with other celebs so there's always something going on in her life that makes for good tabloid fodder. The people who hate her take great joy in hearing when she messes up. She's rich, pretty (to some), likes to party, lives in excess, has a feeling of entitlement, immature, no real responsiblities and lots of free time. She has all the ingredients of being a mark for the tabloids and people wanting to see what she's up to and being delighted when things go wrong.

In reguards to Donalds daughter,is this the same low profile,professional way daughter that posed for Maxium magazine? :rolleyes:

mgs
06-09-2007, 04:59 PM
she doesn't really do much, she's a Hilton Hotel heiress, and yet, she's famous.

Cam63
06-09-2007, 06:22 PM
Apparently she gets sweet FA when her old man croaks and she has to sell herself to maintain the lifestyle she's accustomed to.

I'm pretty sure she'd get some fat crumbs from Mummy when people stop paying her.

MacQuarrie
06-09-2007, 06:40 PM
There's an unwarranted assumption in the question. We're not obsessed with her; we are appalled by her. We're all watching to see the inevitable trainwreck.

Charles RB
06-09-2007, 06:42 PM
Apparently she gets sweet FA when her old man croaks

Is that because the inheritance has been spent or has she been cut from the will?

Cam63
06-09-2007, 07:01 PM
A little of A and a little of B, methinks.

The Beast Of Yucca Flats
06-10-2007, 06:18 AM
I hope to God then I never live to see Paris Hilton knocking on my door and offering me her plasma for a reasonable price.

Cam63
06-10-2007, 07:50 AM
Is that what the kids call it these days ?

Alex Dragon
06-10-2007, 10:36 AM
And, it appears, break the law and do acts that could kill people and seemingly ignore the fact that they're supposed to follow the law.

So bollocks to them.

Plenty of other people besides the rich and celebs do that all the time but it doesn't turn into a big deal because they're unknown and most of the world doesn't care. You've got to figure that probably majority of people leaving a bar or a night club are probably legally drunk but are lucky enough to not get pulled over. Paris' biggest blunder was continuing to drive on a sespended license and showing up to court late. I think that was stupidity on her part more than arrogance.

Lester C.
06-10-2007, 10:38 AM
What's interesting about celebrity justice is that it works both ways. Tank Johnson and Paris will go to jail for crimes that normal people don't, but OJ and Blake can apparently get away with murder.

heystacy
06-10-2007, 10:45 AM
What's interesting about celebrity justice is that it works both ways. Tank Johnson and Paris will go to jail for crimes that normal people don't, but OJ and Blake can apparently get away with murder.

Didn't OJ 's case blur lines. The evidence was overshadowed by racial/racist overtones.

Don't know much about Blake's case.

I think Paris is being made an example of, which a judge can and has done to many people.

Charles RB
06-10-2007, 10:45 AM
Plenty of other people besides the rich and celebs do that all the time

And we don't like these people. Western society seems to be in agreement that they are arseholes.

Lester C.
06-10-2007, 10:51 AM
Didn't OJ 's case blur lines. The evidence was overshadowed by racial/racist overtones.

Don't know much about Blake's case.

I think Paris is being made an example of, which a judge can and has done to many people.

I think it had more to do with his celebrity status. Tom Cruise or Eddie Murphy could have done the same thing and still gotten off. You're a good example of why. You associate posters with avatars just like most people, myself included, associate celebrities with the characters they portray on the small and silver screen.

heystacy
06-10-2007, 10:57 AM
I think it had more to do with his celebrity status. Tom Cruise or Eddie Murphy could have done the same thing and still gotten off. You're a good example of why. You associate posters with avatars just like most people, myself included, associate celebrities with the characters they portray on the small and silver screen.

I don't know. I see OJ as OJ. I suppose at some point before the trial I would have been in awe of him in some form, but not so much that I would not be blinded.

SUPERECWFAN1
06-10-2007, 11:02 AM
Didn't OJ 's case blur lines. The evidence was overshadowed by racial/racist overtones.

Don't know much about Blake's case.

I think Paris is being made an example of, which a judge can and has done to many people.

She had every oppertunity to actually skirt outta this and not be made an example of. But instead went the route of not giving a flying fuck.

I really watched the Blake case and heres what I got from what I watched.

1. The gun that shot Bakley didn't come from Blake's house or what he left at the restraunt when he walked back 2 blocks to it.

2. The parking 2 blocks away made cops supicious but the restraunt owner claims Blake always did this since he came there for years. Something about Blake being scared to park in the parking lot and all. Usually when he came Blake was shown to his personal table , way in the back to be alone. Sometimes its rare a fan would see and meet him.

3. No gun evidence on Blake's hands .

4. Blake lived in the main house on the property. A grown daughter testified that Blake really loved his little girl and allowed Bakley to live in the smaller house since the 2 weren't togethor as a couple soon after the kids birth. They went out to eat and all ...but weren't a couple.

5. The testimony of ex-bodyguards and stunt men who testified Blake wanted to pay them to kill Bakley. The end was one got on the stand and admitted he had lied about everything. This killed the case.

6. Bakley's past as a con artist who ripped thousands of men off over the years seemed to seal the deal of resonable doubt. Once her past came into light and how she ripped guys off trying to land a rich guy , thats what killed the case as well.


Once all this happened its no shock Blake went free. Beyond a bunch of bodyguards and all testifying they really didn't have jack squat to put Blake away with. And once the jury saw one lie ....well...

heystacy
06-10-2007, 11:07 AM
She had every oppertunity to actually skirt outta this and not be made an example of. But instead went the route of not giving a flying fuck.

I really watched the Blake case and heres what I got from what I watched.

1. The gun that shot Bakley didn't come from Blake's house or what he left at the restraunt when he walked back 2 blocks to it.

2. The parking 2 blocks away made cops supicious but the restraunt owner claims Blake always did this since he came there for years. Something about Blake being scared to park in the parking lot and all. Usually when he came Blake was shown to his personal table , way in the back to be alone. Sometimes its rare a fan would see and meet him.

3. No gun evidence on Blake's hands .

4. Blake lived in the main house on the property. A grown daughter testified that Blake really loved his little girl and allowed Bakley to live in the smaller house since the 2 weren't togethor as a couple soon after the kids birth. They went out to eat and all ...but weren't a couple.

5. The testimony of ex-bodyguards and stunt men who testified Blake wanted to pay them to kill Bakley. The end was one got on the stand and admitted he had lied about everything. This killed the case.

6. Bakley's past as a con artist who ripped thousands of men off over the years seemed to seal the deal of resonable doubt. Once her past came into light and how she ripped guys off trying to land a rich guy , thats what killed the case as well.


Once all this happened its no shock Blake went free. Beyond a bunch of bodyguards and all testifying they really didn't have jack squat to put Blake away with. And once the jury saw one lie ....well...

On Paris. She's paying the price for her mistakes. Perhaps she will learn something from this ordeal. Somehow I get the feeling she will be on Oprah and selling this story in a biography.

On Blake. This makes sense. Thanks.

Alex Dragon
06-10-2007, 11:20 AM
What's interesting about celebrity justice is that it works both ways. Tank Johnson and Paris will go to jail for crimes that normal people don't, but OJ and Blake can apparently get away with murder.

I have no idea about Tank but Paris got jail time because she didn't seem to take any of what she did seriously. She got stopped multiple times and showed up to court late. Her defense to the charages was to claim she didn't know any better. I think the judge thought the only way to teacher a lesson was to have her do time because paying a fine would mean absolutely nothing to her.

Blake and OJ had the money and luxury to get some of the best lawyers money could buy. And really, all there job was was to cast enough doubt to the case moreso than prove 100% that they didn't do it. With OJ it's not a slam dunk for me either. I definately think he was there and had something to do with but after that I couldn't say for certain if he was alone or how much he actually did. The trial was very specific as to what they were charging him for.

Nick Soapdish
06-10-2007, 02:12 PM
What's interesting about celebrity justice is that it works both ways. Tank Johnson and Paris will go to jail for crimes that normal people don't, but OJ and Blake can apparently get away with murder.

Lots of normal people go to jail for exactly those same crimes. The fact that some don't doesn't prove that Paris and Tank are being treated more harshly than average. It only proves that they're being treated more harshly than the absolute minimum.

Night Swordsman
06-10-2007, 04:33 PM
I have no idea about Tank but Paris got jail time because she didn't seem to take any of what she did seriously. She got stopped multiple times and showed up to court late. Her defense to the charages was to claim she didn't know any better. I think the judge thought the only way to teacher a lesson was to have her do time because paying a fine would mean absolutely nothing to her.

Blake and OJ had the money and luxury to get some of the best lawyers money could buy. And really, all there job was was to cast enough doubt to the case moreso than prove 100% that they didn't do it. With OJ it's not a slam dunk for me either. I definately think he was there and had something to do with but after that I couldn't say for certain if he was alone or how much he actually did. The trial was very specific as to what they were charging him for.


Blake DID have some money,but also spent a LONG stretch in jail(iirc,two years) before his case came to trial. Guess even the "best" lawyers have off days. :rolleyes:

Citizen V
06-10-2007, 06:27 PM
I was wondering just what is it about Paris that makes here such a magnet for media attention and why people are obsessed with her.

Im very close to saying that people dont know what else to put on the news.Or that people dont want to hear the sad truth of Iraq,Global Warming or the American Economy..so they focus on Hilton.

Cam63
06-10-2007, 06:29 PM
That could very well be...

SUPERECWFAN1
06-10-2007, 06:31 PM
Im very close to saying that people dont know what else to put on the news.Or that people dont want to hear the sad truth of Iraq,Global Warming or the American Economy..so they focus on Hilton.

Lets weigh this.....

Horrible war overseas , future issues of global warming that threaten us as a country and the American Economy and gas crunch. Vs airing stories about a hot (not to me , always saw Nicole Ritchie bein HOTTER) rich babe.

Yep.....the HRB (Hot Rich Babe) quotent always wins.

Cam63
06-10-2007, 06:59 PM
I find both extremely unattractive.

Hilton looks like a model for an STD poster and Ritchie looks like a cotton bud.

Charles RB
06-10-2007, 07:20 PM
Hilton is an Auton. I swear.

SUPERECWFAN1
06-10-2007, 07:24 PM
I find both extremely unattractive.

Hilton looks like a model for an STD poster and Ritchie looks like a cotton bud.

I always enjoyed Ritchie before she lost all the wieght and looked like she was trying to follow her friends lead.

MartinRedmond
06-11-2007, 09:09 AM
I don't know why Paris is crying, she endured some dull stuff along with her friend Skeletor in the Simple Life.

Cam63
06-11-2007, 06:42 PM
I think she needs a catchers' mitt and a baseball.

http://www.et.byu.edu/~wheeler/movies/steve.jpg

...Worked for this guy.

Corrina
06-11-2007, 06:49 PM
Not, not really. Watch the movie.

Cam63
06-11-2007, 06:50 PM
I have.

He drove the poor little Jock in the next cell batty, though.

Lester C.
06-11-2007, 07:30 PM
Paris said she's going to stop acting dumb. Now if only I can get brilliant business men mogul rappers to preach about what really made them millions rather than talk about what landed them or their friends in jail.:rolleyes: