women in anime

[mojojo1984]

hey everyone
it's me again.i notice alot of women in anime are weaker then the males. but the evil women are not so weak.and shows like sailor moon they need tuxedo mask's help or their weak alone.i was hoping to change that for my dark hood story.and was hoping anyone had any ideas for my super heroine,crimson. at first crimson was going to be dark hood side kick but throught she should do solo jobs and sometimes team up with him.
well talk to you later.
-- Joe:)

[Guy1]

hey everyone
it's me again.i notice alot of women in anime are weaker then the males. but the evil women are not so weak.and shows like sailor moon they need tuxedo mask's help or their weak alone.i was hoping to change that for my dark hood story.and was hoping anyone had any ideas for my super heroine,crimson. at first crimson was going to be dark hood side kick but throught she should do solo jobs and sometimes team up with him.
well talk to you later.
-- Joe:)

Grenadier has a strong women as it's lead character.
Elfen Lied too, though granted Lucy is a psycho, but it still goes.
The Witchblade anime is a good one if you can find it.
Ikkitousen, if you can get past the perversion, has TONS of strong females in it.

[OverMaster]

Check Slayers sometime and do yourself a favor. Lina Inverse FTW.

Also, no male in Saber Marionette J can even compare to its females in strenght and power, at all.

And honestly, it's not like Tuxedo Mask is so needed by the Senshi. Most of what he does in a battle is just to throw a rose down, give Sailor Moon a sappy cheering up, and then he lets her to kill the monster with her own power. Her dependence on him is more psychological than anything else.

[Lord of Nonsensical Crap]

Sailor Moon
Battle Angel Alita
Slayers
Ghost in the Shell
My-HiME
Armitage II

Heck, most of the girls in Bleach are more kickass than the men as well

[Rod G]

Tsukikage Ran.


In the immortal words of Stan Lee: " 'Nuff said."

[Hikari Tsukishiro]

Kino from Kino no Tabi.

Heck, most of the girls in Bleach are more kickass than the men as well

Don't most of the women become useless later on? LOL Shonen manga.

[Jerry W. Loper]

hey everyone
it's me again.i notice alot of women in anime are weaker then the males. but the evil women are not so weak.and shows like sailor moon they need tuxedo mask's help or their weak alone.i was hoping to change that for my dark hood story.and was hoping anyone had any ideas for my super heroine,crimson. at first crimson was going to be dark hood side kick but throught she should do solo jobs and sometimes team up with him.
well talk to you later.
-- Joe:)

In Noir, the three main girls (Mireille, Kirika, and Chloe) eat the guys for breakfast. In Gunslinger Girl, the guys are just sidekicks to the girls (Henrietta, Triela, Rico, Angelica, and Claes), even though the girls in GG look to be only 10-11 years old. ;) P.S. Both these series are "girls with guns" series.

[Citizen V]

[QUOTE=mojojo1984;4861873.i notice alot of women in anime are weaker then the males.

well talk to you later.
-- Joe:)[/QUOTE]

Its something that will never really change,and i doubt the mostly male fanbase would want.Im not complaining.:cool:

[AnimeAvatar]

Elfien lied- deffinitily, she's not that psycho...
Kino- again, yes (also look at Kinos' Journey, it's basicaly the same thing only in Anime form)
Appleseed- it had a fairly decent female lead
Aeonflux(the animation)- same
Cowboy Bebop - though a semi-minor character, Fae(sp?) makes a strong female example
GITS- very good example

[AnimeAvatar]

Elfien lied- deffinitily, she's not that psycho...
Kino- again, yes (also look at Kinos' Journey, it's basicaly the same thing only in Anime form)
Appleseed- it had a fairly decent female lead
Aeonflux(the animation)- same
Cowboy Bebop - though a semi-minor character, Fae(sp?) makes a strong female example
GITS- very good example

[Domo Goddess]

Bubblegum Crisis
Nurse Angel Ririka SOS
Miyuki chan in Wonderland ( all female )

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Ikkitousen, if you can get past the perversion, has TONS of strong females in it.


Sweet Merciful Freya!
I´ve just watched one episode of Ikkitousen and I have to confess I have never giggled so much watching a show before.

Fan Service doesn´t do the word justice, it reaches such unbelievable heights I truly believe a new term should be created for it.

I´ve seen as much anime as the next guy and I tell you, no show (not even hentai ones) has ever come this close to depicting so many close-up slow-mo panties shots in succession.
Bam! From every conceivable angle!

I have officially found the show that can dethrone Najica as The King (Queen?) of Fan Service. :eek:

[Guy1]

Sweet Merciful Freya!
I´ve just watched one episode of Ikkitousen and I have to confess I have never giggled so much watching a show before.

Fan Service doesn´t do the word justice, it reaches such unbelievable heights I truly believe a new term should be created for it.

I´ve seen as much anime as the next guy and I tell you, no show (not even hentai ones) has ever come this close to depicting so many close-up slow-mo panties shots in succession.
Bam! From every conceivable angle!

I have officially found the show that can dethrone Najica as The King (Queen?) of Fan Service. :eek:

Want to know a secret?


The Manga has even more.

:D

[Ghost]

Nanoha Takamachi, (http://s03.2log.net/home/yosaba/kyap1/nanoha/nanoha91.jpg) of Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha.

She'll f*** you up!

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Want to know a secret?


The Manga has even more.

:D

Why don´t they just print out a lingerie catalogue? :p

Nanoha Takamachi, (http://s03.2log.net/home/yosaba/kyap1/nanoha/nanoha91.jpg) of Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha.

She'll f*** you up!

Oh, please... she looks like she just walked outta Lucky Star!
Nobody that cute can be badass...

[Len Ikari145]

Kino from Kino no Tabi.



Don't most of the women become useless later on? LOL Shonen manga.

Nope, just haven't gotten the chance to show off as much. Yachiru is alluded to be scarily powerful but hasn't gotten much spotlight yet. Ururu beat the crap out of one of the Espada, Linda of the Vaizards is supposedly one of the most powerful next to Shinji, Orihime is a walking plot-device with godlike healing powers, and Rukia's already killed two of the Arrancar with her Shikai alone. Adult Nell Tu at this time is the one of the strongest characters in Bleach right now.

I would also like to add Tokiko from Buso Renkin to the list.

[Darth Joker]

Why don´t they just print out a lingerie catalogue? :p



Oh, please... she looks like she just walked outta Lucky Star!
Nobody that cute can be badass...

Not at first, but she gets there. She has definitive bad ass moments in her final fight with Fate, her second fight with Vita, and the long, final struggle in Nanoha A's.

And she has *numerous* bad ass moments as an adult in Striker S.

Young Nanoha is a bit like Rocky, actually. She tends to lose the first encounter, but she's deadly in a re-match!

[Ghost]

Not at first, but she gets there. She has definitive bad ass moments in her final fight with Fate, her second fight with Vita, and the long, final struggle in Nanoha A's.

And she has *numerous* bad ass moments as an adult in Striker S.

Young Nanoha is a bit like Rocky, actually. She tends to lose the first encounter, but she's deadly in a re-match!

I think Eliseu was being ironic, actually.

[Melbourne Mew Mew]

Not at first, but she gets there. She has definitive bad ass moments in her final fight with Fate, her second fight with Vita, and the long, final struggle in Nanoha A's.

And she has *numerous* bad ass moments as an adult in Striker S.

Young Nanoha is a bit like Rocky, actually. She tends to lose the first encounter, but she's deadly in a re-match!

You forgot to mention that she single-handedly redefined the term "befriend".

[jeanprixx]

They Are Juicily Sexy!

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I think Eliseu was being ironic, actually.

LOL
Yeah, I´ve been watching anime long enough to know not to judge a book by the cover. :p

[stelok]

hey everyone
it's me again.i notice alot of women in anime are weaker then the males. but the evil women are not so weak.and shows like sailor moon they need tuxedo mask's help or their weak alone.i was hoping to change that for my dark hood story.and was hoping anyone had any ideas for my super heroine,crimson. at first crimson was going to be dark hood side kick but throught she should do solo jobs and sometimes team up with him.
well talk to you later.
-- Joe:)

Then you don't watch many anime like Love Hina, Ikkitousen, Mahoromatic, Fate/Stay Night, Tsukihime, Grenadier, Girls Bravo, Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Noir, etc.

[Len Ikari145]

Then you don't watch many anime like Love Hina, Ikkitousen, Mahoromatic, Fate/Stay Night, Tsukihime, Grenadier, Girls Bravo, Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Noir, etc.

The manga version of Sailormoon(there's a whole world of difference from the anime), Elfen Lied, Tenchi Muyo, Claymore, The Strongest disciple Kenichi, Tenjyo Tenge, Oh My Goddess!, Shakugan no Shana.

[AnimeAvatar]

I can not rememebr her name right at this moment but the main female character in Blue Gender, she was a fairly strong one.


I have not watched in in a long time but i can remember her standing out as one of the stronger female characters i have seen.

[Maikofan]

I can't believe no one mentioned Revy from Black Lagoon, she's like Lara Croft, Major Motoko and Faye Valentine put together with Dante's and Spike's overconfidence and nack of excitement put together.

[Kage Kisaragi]

I dont know, female leads in anime either come off as half crazy, or overbundantly stupid.

[Maikofan]

I dont know, female leads in anime either come off as half crazy, or overbundantly stupid.Revy is crazy and stupid at the same time, yet she kicks more ass than a heavywight boxer.

[Len Ikari145]

Geez, I just remembered: R-el Mayer from Ergo Proxy. That chick was intensity personified.

[mathew101281]

The entire cast from Claymore

[Eliseu Gouveia]

... except Raki, of course...:)

[Black Atom]

There are more strong, capable female leads in anime than in American cartoons and movies, really.

[Ramiel]

There are more strong, capable female leads in anime than in American cartoons and movies, really.

You know, that is very true. I can't really think of a strong female from a current movie or TV show (not to say their not out there, but thought fails me right now) and I can think of quite a few for anime, both current and past

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I agree that there are many strong female characters in anime but the frail, meek, submissive DIDs still have them beat by the hundreds.

[Rabid Trekkie]

Silent Moebius is almost a complete cast of all strong female characters. Also several of Miyazaki's movies have strong female leads, and if they don't start out strong they eventually get there.

[GrampaGen]

Don't most of the women become useless later on? LOL Shonen manga.

I realize that this is a month's old post but...were Yoruichi and Soifon involved in the current arc, it'd probably be done a while ago.

... except Raki, of course...:)

I don't know if Raki is meant to be the core of a flipped archetype or a feminist parable or whatever, but that kid is...argh.

BOO! BOO I say! He should've been dead so many times by now!

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I don´t mind the kid per se since he provides us with a human perspective of the Claymores but -Good God!, could he tone the whining down a notch?

If nobody mentioned it yet, Seirei no Moribito is not only a gorgeous masterpiece but it also has Balsa who does great transitions between strong and kind.
AND she´s actually an adult woman, something unusual in a medium overcrowded with 13 years old girls.

[heretic]

... except Raki, of course...:)Who cannot seem to catch a break either in the story or among fandom.

HTG

[heretic]

I don't know if Raki is meant to be the core of a flipped archetype or a feminist parable or whatever, but that kid is...argh.

BOO! BOO I say! He should've been dead so many times by now!

I don´t mind the kid per se since he provides us with a human perspective of the Claymores but -Good God!, could he tone the whining down a notch?
Case in point, the kid has enough guts and loyalty for ten.

Yeesh, is he supposed to be this decade's Shinji in terms of abuse for being less than emotionally invincible? Clare was even worse when she started out.

HTG

[Len Ikari145]

If it hasn't been mentioned yet, the Sanji-yan/Pai from 3x3 Eyes. The girl was hardcore in every sense of the word.

[Melbourne Mew Mew]

Case in point, the kid has enough guts and loyalty for ten.

Yeesh, is he supposed to be this decade's Shinji in terms of abuse for being less than emotionally invincible? Clare was even worse when she started out.

HTG

Well, tagalong kids don't tend to be well-liked in general. And there seemed to be a persistent fear that he'd end up being made into a bad-ass Mary Sue who'd end up saving Clare and the others all the time.

[Thorlief]

I'm surprised noone mentioned Jojo's Bizarre adventures volume 6. Cast is almost all women, and the main character is Jolyne Kujo, Jotaro's daughter. She really kicks ass.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Illust05.jpg

[heretic]

Well, tagalong kids don't tend to be well-liked in general. And there seemed to be a persistent fear that he'd end up being made into a bad-ass Mary Sue who'd end up saving Clare and the others all the time.The former I do not agree with, and given the nature of the complaints I have heard a lot of fandom would find the latter preferable.

HTG

[lonewolf23k]

Oh, please... she looks like she just walked outta Lucky Star!
Nobody that cute can be badass...

...Isn't that the girl who once blasted an opponent to pieces by shooting through a fortress?

[lonewolf23k]

There are more strong, capable female leads in anime than in American cartoons and movies, really.

In movies, perhaps. In cartoons? Things have changed in recent years. Kim Possible, Juniper Lee, nearly every female character in Avatar...

[Melbourne Mew Mew]

The former I do not agree with, and given the nature of the complaints I have heard a lot of fandom would find the latter preferable.

HTG

Scrappy-Doo, Wesley Crusher, ChibiUsa... and those are just off the top of my head. All "tagalong kids" who are hated in their respective fandoms.

[Totoro Man]

There are more strong, capable female leads in anime than in American cartoons and movies, really.

this reminds me of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I know that she was SUPPOSED to be this strong, capable female lead... but for whatever physical strength she had--emotionally she was a frustrating weakling. of course, when Joss Whedon was writing her character she was more consistent (and admirable). by the end of the TV show Buffy was kind despicable.

in the west, it seems like "strong" is taken perhaps too literally.

I don't like all of my characters 'strong' either. sometimes a weak-willed and indecisive character can be so strongly characterized that they work. like Kyoko Otonashi or Yusaku Godai. ;)

it's important to not have our desired 'role models' stand in the way of writing good characters. and lets face it, we can't have too many 'strong women' in any genre because--we don't have THAT many strong people in real life!

not saying there shouldn't be more female characters who aren't doormats... just throwing that out as a suggestion.

[Aarcee]

"Blue" from "Wolf's Rain" was an extreemly strong and street-smart female leading character.
She was half wolf and half dog, so she had to deal with that, among other things.