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Verminous
05-21-2007, 04:29 PM
Ok so we have John Stewart, Hal Jordan Kyle Rayner and Guy Gardner. Why is Alan Scott not counted as a GL? Does his ring work differently? Will he battle the Sinestro Corps? Any information appreciated.;)

Deadpooligan
05-21-2007, 04:32 PM
Ok so we have John Stewart, Hal Jordan Kyle Rayner and Guy Gardner. Why is Alan Scott not counted as a GL? Does his ring work differently? Will he battle the Sinestro Corps? Any information appreciated.;)

His Green Lantern power is a result of magic and a thing called the Starheart.

Alan's ring does not affect wood, but it does affect yellow unlike the other Lanterns.

All other Green Lanterns are a member of the Green Lantern Corps, of which Alan is not affiliated with beyond honorary membership.

It does not appear he will fight the Sinestro Corps from recent previews.

Verminous
05-21-2007, 04:44 PM
So his powers are very similar but they come from different sources. So he is then not affiliated with the guardians.

Thanks for the info.

SMMM
05-21-2007, 06:43 PM
probably looking too much into this, but..

Did Alan Scott come before the Corps(speaking about the current timeline, not publication)? And did he choose the name Green Lantern by coincidence or what..?

Deadpooligan
05-21-2007, 08:48 PM
So his powers are very similar but they come from different sources. So he is then not affiliated with the guardians.

Thanks for the info.

No problem. Remember, continuity and Wikipedia are your friends!

probably looking too much into this, but..

Did Alan Scott come before the Corps(speaking about the current timeline, not publication)? And did he choose the name Green Lantern by coincidence or what..?

He did not. The Corps have been around for a milennia, and although Alan Scott's pretty long lived (with the deaging and all), he's not even predating World War I.

His choice of title, Green Lantern, comes from the fact the he was given power by a green lantern of mystical origin, though unaffiliated with the Guardians of the Universe, yet similar looking.

http://www.storiescomics.com/STAR15568.jpg

SMMM
05-21-2007, 09:25 PM
No problem. Remember, continuity and Wikipedia are your friends!



He did not. The Corps have been around for a milennia, and although Alan Scott's pretty long lived (with the deaging and all), he's not even predating World War I.

His choice of title, Green Lantern, comes from the fact the he was given power by a green lantern of mystical origin, though unaffiliated with the Guardians of the Universe, yet similar looking.

http://www.storiescomics.com/STAR15568.jpg

ok, so basically seen as a huge coincidence.

Desaad
05-22-2007, 12:15 AM
Not exactly, actually.

It gets a bit complicated, so I apologize if I'm not 100% clear in my explanation...I am trying to simplify it greatly.

Okay, so the Guardians of the Universe a billions-year old race of extremely powerful immortals. Power of a cosmic scale.

When they first took up their mission to bring order and good to the universe - before the Corps, before the Manhunter, before the Big Green Blob, before everything else - they launched an assault on the chaos magics of the universe. They destroyed a number of evil, chaotic magical empires and gathered together a large chunk of the chaos magic. They trapped this magic in the heart of a star. The starheart.

Flash forward billions of years. The Green Lantern Corps is long established and highly respected. Chief among them, a Green Lantern named Yalan Gur. He is the best and the brightest of his generation. In a skirmish with a yellow monster, he nearly dies.

The guardians fear what might happen to the morale of the corps if Yalan dies and so remove the yellow impurity that causes the weakness. In time, Yalan grows power mad and starts taking over the planets in his sector (2814, Earth's sector).

While waging a war on the, by comparison, insignificant people of ancient China, the Guardians see the evil of Yalan Gur and give his ring a weakness to the material that the people of China most use in their weapons -- Wood.

Surprised by his sudden weakness, he dies. As he dies, however, a chunk of the Starheart crashes to earth, enveloping his body, ring and battery. His spirit, the battery and the starheart all merge into a meteorite and a terrible prophecy is written; the starheart will bring once life, then death, then power.

Over time, the meteorite is carved into a lantern (the owner of the meteorite is in part compelled by the soul of Yalan Gur, a part of the meteorite, to fashion it into this particular shape).

Eventually Alan Scott finds it, is compelled to form a ring from a piece of the lantern, and becomes who he is.

This explains the wood weakness and the striking similarity to the Green Lantern Corps.

Hope that helps.

marshal99
05-22-2007, 01:07 AM
That's the post-crisis origin , but with the multiverse back , does Alan Scott post-crisis origins still stand ?!

In pre-crisis , Earth 2 does not have the guardians of the universe , only earth 1.

marshal99
05-22-2007, 01:08 AM
*Oops * Double post

glennsim
05-22-2007, 07:42 AM
That's the post-crisis origin , but with the multiverse back , does Alan Scott post-crisis origins still stand ?!

In pre-crisis , Earth 2 does not have the guardians of the universe , only earth 1.

To be clear, the multiverse isn't really back - we have a new multiverse.

So the Alan Scott on New Earth would still have a "single-universe" origin.

There's a new Earth 2, which presumably has an Alan Scott, who probably has the old Earth 2 origin.

Prior to the first Crisis, a much simpler story was established that the Guardians gathered up most of the magic in the Earth 1 universe and sent it "away" - which turns out to be the Earth 2 dimension, where it became Alan Scott's lantern. Since the Guardians of New Earth probably will still be the cause of the New Earth Alan Scott's origin, then perhaps the Guardians of another Earth will have sent their magic to the new Earth 2 for Alan Scott to use...

SMMM
05-22-2007, 08:03 AM
Not exactly, actually.

It gets a bit complicated, so I apologize if I'm not 100% clear in my explanation...I am trying to simplify it greatly.

Okay, so the Guardians of the Universe a billions-year old race of extremely powerful immortals. Power of a cosmic scale.

When they first took up their mission to bring order and good to the universe - before the Corps, before the Manhunter, before the Big Green Blob, before everything else - they launched an assault on the chaos magics of the universe. They destroyed a number of evil, chaotic magical empires and gathered together a large chunk of the chaos magic. They trapped this magic in the heart of a star. The starheart.

Flash forward billions of years. The Green Lantern Corps is long established and highly respected. Chief among them, a Green Lantern named Yalan Gur. He is the best and the brightest of his generation. In a skirmish with a yellow monster, he nearly dies.

The guardians fear what might happen to the morale of the corps if Yalan dies and so remove the yellow impurity that causes the weakness. In time, Yalan grows power mad and starts taking over the planets in his sector (2814, Earth's sector).

While waging a war on the, by comparison, insignificant people of ancient China, the Guardians see the evil of Yalan Gur and give his ring a weakness to the material that the people of China most use in their weapons -- Wood.

Surprised by his sudden weakness, he dies. As he dies, however, a chunk of the Starheart crashes to earth, enveloping his body, ring and battery. His spirit, the battery and the starheart all merge into a meteorite and a terrible prophecy is written; the starheart will bring once life, then death, then power.

Over time, the meteorite is carved into a lantern (the owner of the meteorite is in part compelled by the soul of Yalan Gur, a part of the meteorite, to fashion it into this particular shape).

Eventually Alan Scott finds it, is compelled to form a ring from a piece of the lantern, and becomes who he is.

This explains the wood weakness and the striking similarity to the Green Lantern Corps.

Hope that helps.

ah, thanks. That makes sense. This had been buggin me for a while.

marshal99
05-22-2007, 09:07 AM
You can read the updated Alan scott origins in Green Lantern #19. At the time , Alan Scott was still in limbo fighting ragnarok and nobody knows where he and the rest of the JSA were.

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/37139544386.19.gif