Wolverine's enemies!

[Mikl C]

Who rocks you in your pants?

[Nyssane]

Wolverine's enemies are almost as lame as he is.

That being said, I kinda like Cyber.

[Mikl C]

Haters can LEAVE. I like Cyber too but it's so lame that he's back in Origins. Plus they got his flashback wrong.

[Nyssane]

Yeah, he shoulda stayed dead. If he's alive, what's to keep them from bringing back the Dark Riders, also?

I also like Silver Samurai, if only because he likes Mean Girls as much as I do.

[1WEBHEAD]

I picked Magneto, even though he's more of an X-men villain rather than Wolverine's...

[Dan K]

Ogun all the way baby!

[Omega Alpha]

I voted on Sabretooth. And Magneto shouldn't be there.

[Mikl C]

Yes he should because I put him there. Magneto RIPPED OUT his adamantium almost killing him. Wolverine hates him.

[Omega Alpha]

Yes he should because I put him there. Magneto RIPPED OUT his adamantium almost killing him. Wolverine hates him.

But that doesn't make him a Wolverine villain by itself. Mags doesn't have any particular interest or any grudge against Logan (like, for example, Sinister with Gambit and Cyclops) and they have never fought each other when Logan wasn't with the X-men.

[Mikl C]

Well Logan has his own personal grudge with Magneto. So that qualifies him. Why are you questioning my poll choices?

[Cain Marko]

Double post.

[Cain Marko]

I would have normally said Cyber but from what I've heard about him in Origins it sounds like he's been screwed up. And I can't consider Magneto a Wolverine enemy, so Sabretooth it is. Assuming he's still got those nifty Weapon-X upgrades.

[Faded]

Flex!!!!!!!!!

[Omega Alpha]

Well Logan has his own personal grudge with Magneto. So that qualifies him. Why are you questioning my poll choices?

Why are you getting so mad about that?

[DDM]

I agree that Magneto is not a Wolverine villain; he is an established villain of the Uncanny X-Men & even joined the team to become headmaster & teach The New Mutants. The closest villains are Lady Deathstrike, Sabretooth, Ogun, & Cyber but...

The Hand fought Daredevil (w/ Black Widow & Elektra) originally then moved to Wolverine & Psylocke of Uncanny X-Men. The Hand are not exclusive Wolverine villains

Sabretooth has fought Iron Fist, Daredevil, Spider-Man as well as the X-Men. Is Sabretooth really just an exclusive Wolverine villain? No.

Department H is not a real villain either. It's a part of Canada's government which housed the Alpha Flight program. Department H also owns Guardian costume, although it was the creation of James McDonald Hudson.

Have you even read enough Wolverine to know his exclusive villains as opposed the rest of the Marvel Universe???

[Mikl C]

WTF? GET OUT OF MY THREAD.
Did I say they had to be Wolverine specific?
STFU.

[Faded]

Sometimes you guys take the fun out of everything.

I surely hope you're using your intense nitpicking skills to do something worthwhile, like edit wikipedia.

[Pach!]

Now I have such a strong urge to vote for Magneto. Too bad I had already voted for S.S.

[Citizen V]

I went with Department H.

[DDM]

Haters can LEAVE. I like Cyber too but it's so lame that he's back in Origins. Plus they got his flashback wrong.

Sabretooth has been lame of late until Mike Carey started writing him in X-Men. Jeph Loeb's Sabretooth is about as uncool as anything can get too.

I won't vote for Sabretooth...

[Gene M.]

Magneto all the MOTHER F'N WAY!

[Diablito]

Silver Samurai!!

I wish he were in the X-Men...

[Arkady Rossovich]

<--------voted for Omega Red.

I'm alone in that. Oh well.

[Flâneur]

Who rocks you in your pants?

Your avatar. TELL ME WHO IT IS!

And Lady Deathstrike ftmfw. Best wolverine villian.

[Canemacar]

Sabertooth. His rivalry woth Logan is the stuff of legends.

[Cthulhudrew]

Voted Sabretooth because he's pretty much the iconic Wolverine foe, but it was a close call between him and Bloodscream, who I really dig.

If they'd only fix the problems with Omega Red and Bloodscream's origins, they'd be top of the line Wolvie villains in my book (the problems being a- Omega Red supposedly can't control his death spores without the c-synthesizer, yet it's never slowed him down in all of his appearances, and b- Bloodscream supposedly needs the "blood of an immortal" to sustain his life force, but he's never had a problem in all of his appearances. IE, they really just need to put some genuine thought and explanation into their supposed Achilles' heels.)

[streator]

sabretooth, but i like all of the others listed as well.

and, i get that all of these threads are parodies (or seem to be) but i don't care. i like wolverine. i don't read his monthly anymore but i did in the past and i might again given the right creative team.

[Nyssane]

Now I picked Magneto, just to piss you haters off.

Seriously, don't come into a thread and complain like a bunch of babies. Magneto is one of Wolverine's enemies, and just because he isn't an ARCH-NEMESIS doesn't mean there isn't bad blood there. So quit being bitches.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Wolverines biggest enemy is statutory rape laws. RUn ultimate wolverine!

Run from the law!

and Jean's pissed off father.

[Papa Moai]

Ogun, but based on solely on his appearance in the Kitty Pride & Wolverine limited series. Bringing him back later was just plain wrong.

[Dagger]

I agree that Magneto is not a Wolverine villain; he is an established villain of the Uncanny X-Men & even joined the team to become headmaster & teach The New Mutants. The closest villains are Lady Deathstrike, Sabretooth, Ogun, & Cyber but...

The Hand fought Daredevil (w/ Black Widow & Elektra) originally then moved to Wolverine & Psylocke of Uncanny X-Men. The Hand are not exclusive Wolverine villains

Sabretooth has fought Iron Fist, Daredevil, Spider-Man as well as the X-Men. Is Sabretooth really just an exclusive Wolverine villain? No.

Department H is not a real villain either. It's a part of Canada's government which housed the Alpha Flight program. Department H also owns Guardian costume, although it was the creation of James McDonald Hudson.

Have you even read enough Wolverine to know his exclusive villains as opposed the rest of the Marvel Universe???
Holy crap, I didn't know that!;)
Sometimes you guys take the fun out of everything.

I surely hope you're using your intense nitpicking skills to do something worthwhile, like edit wikipedia.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Your avatar. TELL ME WHO IT IS!

And Lady Deathstrike ftmfw. Best wolverine villian.
I wish it were me, or my boyfriend.

[dreyson]

I voted for Lady Deathstrike, but Sabretooth is a close second.

[Mikl C]

I wish it were me, or my boyfriend.

It's Brent Everett! He is porn!

[Schuimend Mormel]

It is now, has always been, and forever will be Sabretooth. You cannot change that. No one can. It's a natural fact of life. :)

And you just know you want to see those two rip each other to shreds, you bloodthristy dog, you.

[Karl H]

I voted for Ogun. Ogun needs more D-list love.

[DDM]

How can the Silver Samurai be a Wolverine villain when he fought the X-Men, Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), & The New Mutants? Furthermore, the Silver Samurai is the Viper's muscle. Both are dangerous. But Wolverine's foes? No way.

[Brian M.]

He didn't say the damn villians had to be EXCLUSIVE Wolverine villians.

Jesus Christ!!!

Sabertooth for me. I love their fights.

[Mikl C]

What the hell? Seriously DDM you're not helping. Name one mainstream villain who's fought one hero only. I dare you.

[Karl H]

How can the Silver Samurai be a Wolverine villain when he fought the X-Men, Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), & The New Mutants? Furthermore, the Silver Samurai is the Viper's muscle. Both are dangerous. But Wolverine's foes? No way.

go start your own poll if you're just going to criticise this one.... ;)

[Mikl C]

How can the Silver Samurai be a Wolverine villain when he fought the X-Men, Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), & The New Mutants? Furthermore, the Silver Samurai is the Viper's muscle. Both are dangerous. But Wolverine's foes? No way.

Also, Silver Samurai hasn't been "Viper's muscle" in a long time. Maybe if you actually read some Wolverine comics you'd know this. :rolleyes:

[Flâneur]

It's Brent Everett! He is porn!
So it's just a pornstar and not a real person. I feel cheated :(

[DDM]

I think Joe Quesada is Wolverine's best villain by overexposing him for several years--ranging in appearances in Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, Astonishing X-Men, Wolverine, & countless mini-series--before finally toning it down; however, the damage has been done. Wolverine: Origins is a useless title just taking up space with no substantial character development.

I wonder if Wolverine mistook Joe Quesada for the Hellfire Club's Black Queen?

[Mikl C]

I think Joe Quesada is Wolverine's best villain by overexposing him for several years--ranging in appearances in Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, Astonishing X-Men, Wolverine, & countless mini-series--before finally toning it down; however, the damage has been done. Wolverine: Origins is a useless title just taking up space with no substantial character development.

I wonder if Wolverine mistook Joe Quesada for the Hellfire Club's Black Queen?

I think this is the worst answer ever.

[Jake V]

I think Joe Quesada is Wolverine's best villain by overexposing him for several years--ranging in appearances in Uncanny X-Men, X-Men, Astonishing X-Men, Wolverine, & countless mini-series--before finally toning it down; however, the damage has been done. Wolverine: Origins is a useless title just taking up space with no substantial character development.

I wonder if Wolverine mistook Joe Quesada for the Hellfire Club's Black Queen?

Good lord, your schtick is old.

[We R. Venom]

I like the Hand my self. Red Ninja you know!:D

[Dagger]

It's Brent Everett! He is porn!
Ooh, then I can watch his movies and pretend it's me!:o

[Dagger]

So it's just a pornstar and not a real person. I feel cheated :(
I'll be your private pr0n star!:o
I think this is the worst answer ever.
ROFLMAOASSGSHERSLDFG best resonse ever.:p

[DDM]

Good lord, your schtick is old.

It's no "schtick." I just think this is a ridiculous question given the choices.

He could have at least chosen some Wolverine enemies. Sabretooth, Ogun, & Lady Deathstrike are acceptable. However, the others on the list just are not Wolverine enemies. That's 7 other characters he could have chosen such as Bloodscream, the Reavers, Karma's uncle (rules the Mandipoor underworld)...

[Hi-Fi]

Oh, DDM, stop being such a pain!

[Dagger]

It's no "schtick." I just think this is a ridiculous question given the choices.

He could have at least chosen some Wolverine enemies. Sabretooth, Ogun, & Lady Deathstrike are acceptable. However, the others on the list just are not Wolverine enemies. That's 7 other characters he could have chosen such as Bloodscream, the Reavers, Karma's uncle (rules the Mandipoor underworld)...
By your own train of thought, almost all of Wolverine's enemies aren't only his, because they've fought plenty of characters in the Marvel U. Sabretooth has fought all the X-Men, New Mutants, the first X-Factor team, as well as Spider-Man. Ogun has also gone up against Storm, Phoenix and Kitty Pryde. The Reaver's have primarily gone after the entire X-Men team, Karma's uncle has come into conflict with Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, Spider-Woman, and the New Mutants.

You take some things just a little too seriously, if you ask me.

[rwsmith]

Well, by DDM's rationale I guess Venom wouldn't be a Spider-man villain and Dr. Doom wouldn't be a Fantastic Four villain. Hell, the Abomination couldn't even lay claim to being a Hulk villain because he once fought Angel and Marrow in the Morlock tunnels!

[Mikl C]

It's no "schtick." I just think this is a ridiculous question given the choices.

He could have at least chosen some Wolverine enemies. Sabretooth, Ogun, & Lady Deathstrike are acceptable. However, the others on the list just are not Wolverine enemies. That's 7 other characters he could have chosen such as Bloodscream, the Reavers, Karma's uncle (rules the Mandipoor underworld)...

Bloodscream (or Bloodsport as he originally appeared) has also faced Spiderman and Delilah during the identity Crisis storyline and thus cannot be considered a true Wolverine villain.

The Reavers have faced the entire x-men team during the outback years! Claremont issues! Too cum encrusted to re-read?

[Dagger]

It was a tough one for me, between Silver Samurai and Lady Deathstrike. The SS and Wolvie fight/team up in Wolverine 150-153 was probably the greatest SS story I've ever read, but re-reading Alpha Flight 34-35, Uncanny 205 and Captain America 1 by Waid and Garney tipped the favor in her odds. LD 4tw.

[eggie]

Sabertooth was crazy scary back in the day before he became an x-man...remember what he did to Betsy and how he tore apart Warren's metal wings? He was vicious which is just how I like my Sabertooth!!

Although, I do love the AoA Sabertooth...him and Wildchild made one heck of a team!!

[Jack Flash]

i voted for Ogun. cuz I remember being scared for Wolvie when it came to him. but now I am not scared. I am the man without Fear!

[worstblogever]

I agree that Magneto is not a Wolverine villain; he is an established villain of the Uncanny X-Men & even joined the team to become headmaster & teach The New Mutants. The closest villains are Lady Deathstrike, Sabretooth, Ogun, & Cyber but...

The Hand fought Daredevil (w/ Black Widow & Elektra) originally then moved to Wolverine & Psylocke of Uncanny X-Men. The Hand are not exclusive Wolverine villains

Sabretooth has fought Iron Fist, Daredevil, Spider-Man as well as the X-Men. Is Sabretooth really just an exclusive Wolverine villain? No.

Department H is not a real villain either. It's a part of Canada's government which housed the Alpha Flight program. Department H also owns Guardian costume, although it was the creation of James McDonald Hudson.

Have you even read enough Wolverine to know his exclusive villains as opposed the rest of the Marvel Universe???

Fatal Attractions ring a bell?

It's a poll. If you don't like the choice, just don't vote for it. In the defense of this thread, those villains are mostly from IGN's top ten Wolverine villains, with a few exceptions.

And Wolverine exclusive villains are on a short list... but you know what? They're usually all DEAD, because Logan kills them before they get to meet another Marvel character. The White Ghost, Mr. X, Weapon XIII, Mauvais, etc.

In short, unclench.

[Godlike]

Who rocks you in your pants?

Sabretooth is Wolvie's naturally archnemesis. :)

[ZNOP]

Sabretooth is Wolvie's naturally archnemesis. :)

That's why I voted "Sabertooth" I can't believe Victor is dead though. Question for anyone... Was Victor's head removed from the close proximity of his body? Thinking of the "Xaiver Protocols."

[Joe Franklin]

Wolverine's enemies are almost as lame as he is.


Sad thing about this statement is that no matter your favorite X-character, they will be lamer then Wolverine has become. As butchered as Wolverine has become over the years, he is still less-lame then the rest of the X-Men combined, which shows you just how lame the X-Men have become. Too many writers with their hands in the X-cookie jar over the last 15 years.:(

[Alan2099]

That's why I voted "Sabertooth" I can't believe Victor is dead though. Question for anyone... Was Victor's head removed from the close proximity of his body? Thinking of the "Xaiver Protocols."

I don't know, but Wolverine should have cut the body into smaller pieced and had them mailed to his other enemies.

[Will.S]

Sad thing about this statement is that no matter your favorite X-character, they will be lamer then Wolverine has become. As butchered as Wolverine has become over the years, he is still less-lame then the rest of the X-Men combined, which shows you just how lame the X-Men have become. Too many writers with their hands in the X-cookie jar over the last 15 years.:(
Eh, you just have to pick and choose the best material with him out there. The solo stuff like the Marvel Comics Presents with Claremont and Buscema, the Best of Wolverine, Wolverine Origin, Wolverine/Havok Meltdown, Wolverine: Blood Debt, Wolverine: Not Dead Yet, Wolverine: Enemy of the State, and all that good stuff to see all the depth and coolness the character has to offer.

Outside of that don't bother with the stuff you don't like or feel that it waters down the character. As for this villains list, it's not bad but Sabertooth is basically the main villain for him and has been for years until he got killed off recently (and I'm sure he'll be back somehow). I'm sure that Romulus and Wild Child are going to get the big push here.

Silver Samurai is a weird pick. He's always been an on again off again rival depending on the story. For example in Blood Debt he wasn't an enemy and he and Wolverine worked together but they weren't best buddies or anything while in Wolverine Origins and Endings he's someone Wolverine wants info from and they don't hesitate to clash and same for his appearance in New Avengers. Lady Deathstrike is one of those constant thorns on Wolverine's side but I don't really find her to have a whole lot of depth these days and same for Omega Red.

Cyber is a good one and I think Daniel Way's adding more pieces to him although his resurrection is dubious but it works for all intents and purposes. I know of the past Ogun and Wolverine share but I haven't read much of it and same goes for Bloodscream. Magneto is usually good enemy for Wolverine given that they almost always come to blows and Mags 10 times out of 10 can just waste him.

All in all:

1) Sabertooth
2) Cyber
3) Silver Samurai

In that order.

[Erik Lehnsherr]

Magneto doesn't even take Wolverine seriously during their confrontations. It's more about Wolverine being mad than Magneto being anywhere near to a "villian" for him. He dismisses Wolverine in Magneto War, EOD, and House of M. Only Xavier and Wanda saved him each and every time from him getting crippled all over again like in Fatal Attractions.

[Ben Morgan]

Sabretooth is cool

[Lombardo!]

I agree that Magneto is not a Wolverine villain; he is an established villain of the Uncanny X-Men & even joined the team to become headmaster & teach The New Mutants. The closest villains are Lady Deathstrike, Sabretooth, Ogun, & Cyber but...

The Hand fought Daredevil (w/ Black Widow & Elektra) originally then moved to Wolverine & Psylocke of Uncanny X-Men. The Hand are not exclusive Wolverine villains

Sabretooth has fought Iron Fist, Daredevil, Spider-Man as well as the X-Men. Is Sabretooth really just an exclusive Wolverine villain? No.

Department H is not a real villain either. It's a part of Canada's government which housed the Alpha Flight program. Department H also owns Guardian costume, although it was the creation of James McDonald Hudson.

Have you even read enough Wolverine to know his exclusive villains as opposed the rest of the Marvel Universe???

i dont see anywhere on the poll where it's asked who your favourite Wolverine EXCLUSIVE villain is.

a character can have villains that mean alot to their stories and legacy without them being 'exclusive'. for example, would you classify Kingpin as Spider-man exclusive? of Daredevil exclusive?

one character's rogue's gallery is allowed to meld with another's.

[Lombardo!]

<--------voted for Omega Red.

I'm alone in that. Oh well.

i always miss the first choice, sigh, so i voted 'Tooth. but now i wish i voted Omega Red. ah they're both cool.

also, i just remembered who Ogun is. i thought it meant 'Shogun', the new Wolvie villan. m'bad. Ogun rocks. one of my favourite old Excalibur issues is when his spirit attacks Kitty and the gang

[steve2275]

sabertooth
hey im a traditionalist :p

[Congo Jack]

Sabretooth - when written by Claremont, Hama or Rucka is the defining Wolverine enemy.

Cyber, Lady D and Bloodscream are all favourites when treated properly.

[matthewaos]

I really like Ogun, and I also like the teacher/student thing they got, but I know he is not his arch nemesis... Although Sabretooth may be dead (yeah, right...). Now, just listen to me, and not just through things on me... Do any of you think that maybe Daken, in a few years replace Sabretooth? Or that maybe replace even Wolverine? I mean he is in a path where he can choose his fate, be like his father, or like Sabretooth. I have to say that I don't like origins though, I just saw the potential of the character, although I cannot understand who the healing factor does not let him grow hair again...

[Karl H]

Elsie Dee and Bloodscream FTW>

[Bic]

I voted for Lady Deathstrike because she decided that the best way to defeat Wolverine was to get a pair of gigantic man-hands. To this day Spiral must laugh when she thinks about how she managed to talk Yuriko into that one.

[DDM]

I voted for Lady Deathstrike because she decided that the best way to defeat Wolverine was to get a pair of gigantic man-hands. To this day Spiral must laugh when she thinks about how she managed to talk Yuriko into that one.

Spiral mocks Lady Deathstrike in Uncanny X-Men #205 when she is reborn as a adamantium cyborg; Spiral also amuses herself by thinking Deathstrike cannot restore her humanity by murdering Wolverine. Lady Deathstrike, Cole, Macon, & Reece lack any humanity before their transformations. They are deluded into believing otherwise.

[Jota]

Magneto doesn't even take Wolverine seriously during their confrontations. It's more about Wolverine being mad than Magneto being anywhere near to a "villian" for him. He dismisses Wolverine in Magneto War, EOD, and House of M. Only Xavier and Wanda saved him each and every time from him getting crippled all over again like in Fatal Attractions.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the best thing of puting Magneto on this discussions is seeing his fans geting all pissy because Wolverine dared touch their beloved, power-hungry, racist, murdering maniac.

In the matter of the Wolverine villains (I agree Magneto is an X-Men villain, more then a Wolverine villain) I have to go with the traditional guy: Sabertooth. He might have had some bad stories (they all had) but guys like Claremont and Hama made him a classic villain and if I'm going to rate him, I'll rate him for his best appearances.
I also like Cyber, Lady D, Ogun and, sometimes, Omega Red and the Hand. I also liked Mr X and Mauvais from Tieri's run.

[ProfeZZor X]

Cyber was kind of a big dummy, but I liked his character for some reason...

...Yeah, I voted for him. :rolleyes:

[rwsmith]

Magneto doesn't even take Wolverine seriously during their confrontations. It's more about Wolverine being mad than Magneto being anywhere near to a "villian" for him. He dismisses Wolverine in Magneto War, EOD, and House of M. Only Xavier and Wanda saved him each and every time from him getting crippled all over again like in Fatal Attractions.

If it weren't for Jean, Wolverine would've gutted Magneto in Fatal Attractions. And he did gut him in Eve of Destruction. Perhaps your mental illness didn't allow you to see that panel clearly.

[ZNOP]

If it weren't for Jean, Wolverine would've gutted Magneto in Fatal Attractions. And he did gut him in Eve of Destruction. Perhaps your mental illness didn't allow you to see that panel clearly.

Now, see people? This is a good reason Jean should be revived and removed from the Marvel "Hit List." Despite Jean's reputation as planet killer (I'm not denining that at all...) She has on more than one occasion done her part in keeping with the X-Men motto. "X-Men don't don't kill." But, when you think about it -- When at war that is something that comes with the territory. If anyone deserved to die it was Sabertooth and Jean had plenty of reasons and opportunity to do so -- it just never panned out that way. And don't get me started on Magneto:evilsmile

[Mikl C]

lul remember I made a wolverine week solo?