Middle Crisis?

[Captain Smith]

So in the Lightning Crossover, the Legion mentions the 'middle crisis' - ah, setting the state for another one?

In about 3 to 5 years?

We have COIE - no more multiverse
We have IC - 52 universes

The Final Crisis - ?

[Jkid099]

Darkseid Rules.

[jgphenom]

All the DCU characters realize that they are just comic book characters being read by all of us (a la Animal Man). Then there is a great Crisis where the characters escape and Dan Didio has actors dress up as superheroes and walk around different cities asking randiom people "Where am I?" DC will have a team of photographers follow the actors around taking pictures. Those pictures will be published in their comics as the heroes' adventures in our universe. Then eventually the characters will make their way back to the DCU, the actors will get paid, and everything will go back to normal.

Man, as I was making this up I started thinking that this would actually be a sweet idea! :D

[Shellhead]

It was an ill-conceived teaser of the next big DC event. Can someone explain to me why the Legion of Super-Heroes would even know about the first Crisis at this point? DC has been coy about what the heroes do or do not know about the past so far, but given the multiple sweeping retcons of Legion continuity, they should be clueless about the Crisis stuff.

[KevinTBrown]

So in the Lightning Crossover, the Legion mentions the 'middle crisis' - ah, setting the state for another one?

In about 3 to 5 years?

We have COIE - no more multiverse
We have IC - 52 universes

The Final Crisis - ?

Getting their titles back on schedule....

:p

[Magneto Rocks]

Weren't the words "Final Crisis" mentioned somewhere between issues 45 and 50 of 52? Would anyone REALLY be surprised if this was what we're counting down to?

I mean, c'mon "Final" and the Countdown tagline "So Begins the END"

[Radical]

The Final Crisis - ?

DC going out of business? :eek: j/k :)

[Captain Smith]

I think it will be the

Ditching of Lois as Clark and Bruce finally realize that ...

[Metamorpho]

All the DCU characters realize that they are just comic book characters being read by all of us (a la Animal Man). Then there is a great Crisis where the characters escape and Dan Didio has actors dress up as superheroes and walk around different cities asking randiom people "Where am I?" DC will have a team of photographers follow the actors around taking pictures. Those pictures will be published in their comics as the heroes' adventures in our universe. Then eventually the characters will make their way back to the DCU, the actors will get paid, and everything will go back to normal.

Man, as I was making this up I started thinking that this would actually be a sweet idea! :D


THAT is the funniest thing I've read here in a long time:D Hope Didio doesn't read it and get any ideas:p

[Nintendite]

Wait, haven't there technically been 3 crisis-level events so far (I.E. they had "Crisis" in the title and changed at least some continuity?)

1- Crisis on Infinite Earths
2- Zero Hour: Crisis in Time (particularly important regarding the Legion)
3- Infinite Crisis

So technically, maybe they're are 6 crisis? I mean, yeah, it's also possible ZH is being ignored (maybe it's now merely a "Incident in Time" and not a crisis.), but I find it somewhat interesting.

PS:
I didn't count Animal Man's second crisis (didn't change any old continuity) or the events of JLA/Avengers (not called a crisis, and the only thing it changed was it made the Anti-Matter universe's Power Ring black. Big whoop.)

[PastePotPete]

THAT is the funniest thing I've read here in a long time:D Hope Didio doesn't read it and get any ideas:p

Agreed. That's a totally hilarious idea. I would collect all of those issues. Especially if they got names we recognize to play the heroes. But they couldn't afford big names, so it would be like Brian Austin Green as Nightwing. Some guy from Crossing Jordan would play Superman. It'd be great!

[CMBMOOL]

Weren't the words "Final Crisis" mentioned somewhere between issues 45 and 50 of 52? Would anyone REALLY be surprised if this was what we're counting down to?

I mean, c'mon "Final" and the Countdown tagline "So Begins the END"


I agree, could what we are currently Countdown towards be the FINAL Crisis ? :eek:

[jgphenom]

Agreed. That's a totally hilarious idea. I would collect all of those issues. Especially if they got names we recognize to play the heroes. But they couldn't afford big names, so it would be like Brian Austin Green as Nightwing. Some guy from Crossing Jordan would play Superman. It'd be great!
Crisis on Earth Prime
Issue #3 (of 8)

"The Superheroes, having come to term with the fact that they are fictional characters turned real, raid the offices of DC to find out WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON WITH SUPERGIRL? Didio refuses to answer but gives them a copy of DC Nation with the answer vaguely disguised within. Grant Morrison invites them all to his house to watch superhero movies."

Quote:
"Allright guys prepare yourself for one of the best superhero movies of all time. Catwoman with Halle Berry."
- Geoff Johns

[jgphenom]

Wait, haven't there technically been 3 crisis-level events so far (I.E. they had "Crisis" in the title and changed at least some continuity?)

1- Crisis on Infinite Earths
2- Zero Hour: Crisis in Time (particularly important regarding the Legion)
3- Infinite Crisis

So technically, maybe they're are 6 crisis? I mean, yeah, it's also possible ZH is being ignored (maybe it's now merely a "Incident in Time" and not a crisis.), but I find it somewhat interesting.

PS:
I didn't count Animal Man's second crisis (didn't change any old continuity) or the events of JLA/Avengers (not called a crisis, and the only thing it changed was it made the Anti-Matter universe's Power Ring black. Big whoop.)
I like the fact that you even mentioned Animal Man's crisis :) As far as I know, DC has always held true to the fact that Animal Man's crisis was a legitimate crisis in the DCU canon. I guess they must only be talking about CoIE and IC. The rest might be considered "minor" crisis. Though the entire universe rebooted in Zero Hour. Oh well...

[Shellhead]

At DC, "Crisis" has a specific meaning:

Crisis
cri·sis
n. pl. cri·ses (-sz)

1. A big money-making crossover event supported by aggressive marketing in all DC comics.
2. An occasion to kill off numerous unpopular heroes, as well as possibly one or more Teen Titans and one or more major heroes.
3. A financial quarter when profits are down by 10% or more. (See definition 1 above for one method of avoiding this type of Crisis.)
4. An opportunity to re-charge creative teams across the product line by re-booting continuity.

[bfrank]

It was an ill-conceived teaser of the next big DC event. Can someone explain to me why the Legion of Super-Heroes would even know about the first Crisis at this point? DC has been coy about what the heroes do or do not know about the past so far, but given the multiple sweeping retcons of Legion continuity, they should be clueless about the Crisis stuff.

Countdown.......

[Heraclevs]

All the DCU characters realize that they are just comic book characters being read by all of us (a la Animal Man). Then there is a great Crisis where the characters escape and Dan Didio has actors dress up as superheroes and walk around different cities asking randiom people "Where am I?" DC will have a team of photographers follow the actors around taking pictures. Those pictures will be published in their comics as the heroes' adventures in our universe. Then eventually the characters will make their way back to the DCU, the actors will get paid, and everything will go back to normal.

Man, as I was making this up I started thinking that this would actually be a sweet idea! :D

They just have to wear those high school drama-quality super hero costumes the Saturday Night Live cast wore back in the day when Margot Kidder was the guest hostess (Bill Murray was Clark/Superman, Garrett Morris was Ant-Man, Belushi was the Hulk, and Dan Ackroyd was the Barry Allen-Flash with a beer gut due to inactivity after the JLA put all the villains in prison).


Either this, or the paper mache costumes from Challenge of the Super Heroes, or whatever it was called back in the late 1970's.

- Romans 9

[davros42]

It was an ill-conceived teaser of the next big DC event. Can someone explain to me why the Legion of Super-Heroes would even know about the first Crisis at this point? DC has been coy about what the heroes do or do not know about the past so far, but given the multiple sweeping retcons of Legion continuity, they should be clueless about the Crisis stuff.

Since this is the "original" Legion, there's every chance they know about the first Crisis, Dawnstar was one of the first heroes summoned by the Monitor and there was at least one issue where Brainiac 5 mourned for Supergirl and Psycho Lad's death was mentioned in passing.

And the third and final Crisis is the end of the Superheroic Age, which results in the mostly superhero free age which ends with the establishment of the Legion.

[jgphenom]

And the third and final Crisis is the end of the Superheroic Age, which results in the mostly superhero free age which ends with the establishment of the Legion.
Never heard of this. Do you know if there were any old Legion issues that covered this? I'd love to read about it.

[jgphenom]

They just have to wear those high school drama-quality super hero costumes the Saturday Night Live cast wore back in the day when Margot Kidder was the guest hostess (Bill Murray was Clark/Superman, Garrett Morris was Ant-Man, Belushi was the Hulk, and Dan Ackroyd was the Barry Allen-Flash with a beer gut due to inactivity after the JLA put all the villains in prison).


Either this, or the paper mache costumes from Challenge of the Super Heroes, or whatever it was called back in the late 1970's.
Awesome. Maybe DC could run a contest and whomever would win could "spend the day with the superheroes" doing whatever they want and DC would have to print it.

Personally I'd take them all out and get them drunk as hell. Then I'd shave Hal Jordan's head and see how far Wonder Woman would go before she'd realize what was up and slap the hell out of me.

[marshal99]

They got it wrong , it's not middle crisis , it's midlife crisis as superman and batman goes through male menopause , find that their testosterone level is low and can't get an erection. ;)

[Trademark]

You guys can't honestly believe that DC will only have one more final Crisis after which there will be no more Crisises.

[jgphenom]

You guys can't honestly believe that DC will only have one more final Crisis after which there will be no more Crisises.
Well, considering that the original crisis was 20 years ago and zero hour was about 10 years ago, I don't mind if they keep that schedule from now on. A big crisis every 20 and a smaller one every 10.

[Buried Alien]

You guys can't honestly believe that DC will only have one more final Crisis after which there will be no more Crisises.

As an interesting footnote, the twelfth and final issue of CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS was sub-titled "Final Crisis."

But of course, we knew better. :)

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

[Sean Whitmore]

4. An opportunity to re-charge creative teams across the product line by re-booting continuity.

Be nice if they ever got tha hang of that one.


SEAN

[Nintendite]

As an interesting footnote, the twelfth and final issue of CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS was sub-titled "Final Crisis."

But of course, we knew better. :)

Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)

"Final Crisis" as the title of that issue ended up being one of the biggest falsehoods in Comic history. Right up there with "Death of Superman".

[UniqueFrequency]

well obviously even if it's the final 'crisis' it by no means will be the final crossover/money making event for DC! they'll just name it something else

[matt_hatyber]

well the crisises are

coie
ic
and.....
armageddon!


did every one already forget about armageddon?

[captain_unimpressive]

There was also Crisis on Multiple Earths way back when (Earth-2, Earth-3 and all that) and the previous DC World War III, which involved Orion, Prometheus, and some huge arch-Sun-Eater or something called Mageddon.
They're referring to the recent, supposedly interconnected triad of Identity Crisis, Infinite Crisis, and the new one in '08.

I think it'll be some sort of literal World War, in which the various universes all come together, or else fall apart.
Or else something to do with #51 Darkseid's big game of HeroClix.

[BoosterBronze]

THis thread got me wondering, what in the blue hell happened to "Hypertime?"

Remember that? I know "The Kingdom" sucked, but what happened to the concept of Hypertime?

[Duy]

THis thread got me wondering, what in the blue hell happened to "Hypertime?"

Remember that? I know "The Kingdom" sucked, but what happened to the concept of Hypertime?
It was used like, twice, and no one really understood Morrison's explanation of it, so they scrapped it. Or something.

[Sean Whitmore]

It was used like, twice, and no one really understood Morrison's explanation of it, so they scrapped it. Or something.

Waid's, wasn't it?


SEAN

[Duy]

I think it was both their baby, but since we're talking about "hard to understand," I'm gonna blame Grant.

Parallel worlds aren't hard to understand and I'm sure Hypertime was fairly simple too, but the explanation that was afforded it was mind-bogglingly convoluted, and really felt like a way to justify editorial gaffes.

[Magneto Rocks]

Hmm... earlier theories seem confirmed from Lying In The Gutters:

"FINAL COUNTDOWN

So what is "Countdown" counting down to anyway?

The name I'm given is "Final Crisis.""

...Anyone wanna dig out the reference to the term "FInal Crisis" in a recent 52? I didn't get the series but I heard there was one around week 46-49 or thereabouts...

[jv2k]

The next DC crisis is going to be called "Mid life crisis" and it will involve aging heroes trying to recapture their youths.

[blackphoenix]

Crisis 3 is coming, people.

Another pointless battle with some uber-villain will lead to yet another reboot of the DCU. if DC had any stones, this time they really would start the DCU from 0 like they were supposed to do after the first Crisis.

[captain_unimpressive]

THis thread got me wondering, what in the blue hell happened to "Hypertime?"

Remember that? I know "The Kingdom" sucked, but what happened to the concept of Hypertime?

I guess it died with Waverider.

[Paul Newell]

Hypertime was wiped out in Infinite Crisis. It was split into the multiple Earths that were seen in the skies by Alex Luthor, then reconstituted into "New Earth".

New Earth couldn't contain all that and so rplicated itself into the new multiverse.

Seems pretty obvious to me. ;)

[Paul Newell]

You know, now that hints are coming out that Countdown is leading to the "final Crisis", maybe we have a similar situation to before Infinite Crisis with the Legion?

We saw the Post-IC Legion appear before we even knew what Infinite Crisis was. Maybe the Legion in the JLA/JSA crossover is the Post-FC Legion?