Best nu-X-Men run

[jarrod]

This one should be a bit tougher... great on both ends, but a little nasty in the middle!

[Brian M.]

Carey and Bachalo hands down.

What Morrison did w/ Scott and Jean was a complete and utter joke. I will never like that writer for what he did.

[Hi-Fi]

I hesitated for a second between Carey and Morrison, but my heart went with Carey, probably because he writes my favorite characters: Rogue, Cannonball and Iceman.

That said, Morrison's run is one of my favorite X-Runs ever! I love every arc.

[Beast]

Carey and Bachalo hands down as well.

Morrison started out strong. But his lack of interest in the characters shows.

[Flight]

Morrison and Quitely hands down.

What Morrison did w/ Scott and Jean was amazing. I will always love that writer for what he did.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Carey

Carey is writing pure gold with a team of a couple of heavies and a lot of second stringers.


Although this might change.

Morrison had the bad luck to have 3 crappy arcs right in a row.


Carey might mess up too.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Morrison and Quitely hands down.

What Morrison did w/ Scott and Jean was amazing. I will always love that writer for what he did.

But will you love Milligan for what Lorna saw? Thats the real question.

[Flight]

But will you love Milligan for what Lorna saw? Thats the real question. Oh, absolutely.
Those 2 issues were simply fabulous.

[Brian M.]

Morrison and Quitely hands down.

What Morrison did w/ Scott and Jean was amazing. I will always love that writer for what he did.

You will never see me naked again.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I seem to recall not hating Milligans X-men run. Although i did hate the gambit squad he created. Bling....onyxx....water...something....guy....Flub ber?


But even then they are better than New X-men's background mutants of "hey look at his long forearms" boy and " i bet he can see peoples bald spots with his longer than normal sized neck" guy.

[jarrod]

As much as I love Carey's run so far, I had to give it to Morrison. Xaiver, Jean and Emma have rarely been handled so well, and the X-Men concept and related ideas rarely handled so thoughtfully. Carey's more "feel good" throwback is great fun, highly reminiscent of the quashed promise of Segale/Kelly or the Outback/Wilderness eras, but Morrison's New X-Men was something else. It's really what the X-Men probably *should* be at this point... Queseda subversively dismantling or perverting every aspect of it in his wake is one of the worse travesties the Xbooks have faced imo, up there with Harras driving away Claremont/Simonson.

In a perfect world though, we'd have had Carey on Uncanny to compliment Morrison's New in the first place. Now *that* could've been epic.

[Faded]

HARD.

I can't decide at all.
I LOVED Morrison's run consistently until Attack on Weapon Plus and his artists were all pretty awesome; Milligan had me during Golgotha, Bizarre Love Triangle, What Lorna Saw, and his concluding issue--not consistently there but he still held my attention despite Larocca's mediocre art; and Carey has just been consistently fun with just the right amount of edge, action, and humor, with Bachalo as one of my most favorite artists ever.

[Dagger]

Lobdell's Generation X Emma>Morrison's Emma.

[jarrod]

Not hardly... Lobdell's milfy denmother was forced and annoying. The only time I even recognised Emma during Gen X was when she kicked Leech.

Morrison's single handedly built her up into the AAA X-Man she always deserved to be. Snark is in bitches, get with the program...

[Dagger]

Not hardly... Lobdell's milfy denmother was forced and annoying. The only time I even recognised Emma during Gen X was when she kicked Leech.

Morrison's single handedly built her up into the AAA X-Man she always deserved to be. Snark is in bitches, get with the program...
Uh huh...Lobdell did more for Emma than Morrison ever thought possible. Other than making her a snarky bitch, and a home wrecker! That's superb character development:rolleyes:

[DrDoomX]

To me the only real competitors here are Carey and Morrison. Austen and Milligan...well...lets leave that at that. Heres the deal, I had to go with Morrison. I only got with Carey, and man was he good, but Morrison I am more Familiar with, and to me its one of the greatest X-Men runs of all time...

[jarrod]

Uh huh...Lobdell did more for Emma than Morrison ever thought possible. Other than making her a snarky bitch, and a home wrecker! That's superb character development:rolleyes:
Yeah... Morrison made Emma feel like Emma again! And it felt *so* good after all those years of abuse! :D

Morrison's entire run was really a love letter to Claremont fans. Well, except Nazineto, that was a dig at the editorial regime that drove him away and the hacks that followed him.

[samil87]

Tough choice, based on the writer I'm inclined to pick Morrison, but some of the illustration was really ugly.
I'm going to go with Carey and Bachallo because I've loved every issue whereas there was one Morrisson issue that was pointless and boring and in addition wasn't very easy on the eye (so glad I got it as part of the hardcover trade, I would have been annoyed if I'd waited a month for it;) ).

[Diablito]

Carey is an awesome writer. Bachalo is an amazing artist. Mixed with a great cast, and D-Lister gallore makes me vote for CAREY/BACHALO TEAM!!

[Ryan K]

Morrison.

Without a second's hesitation. Austen and Milligan were terrible. Carey's run has been mediocre at best in my eyes.

I'm surprised by the voting so far. I would have thought the answer to be so obvious there would be no need for a poll. It's like asking who the best NBA player is: Michael Jordan, Paul Shirley, Jack Haley, or Brandon Roy.

[flapjaxx]

I don't see how this is even a competition. Morrison actually took chances, created memorable stories and villains. His stories actually had a point to them and said something about the theme of X-Men as a whole. Carey is just . . . status quo. Does status quo including THAT oh-so-turbulant roster he's got, you ask? Yes, yes it does. Because Lady Mastermind will prove about as memorable as Revanche, because Cable doesn't really have any point to be there, because Iceman is still wallowing in *hinting* at potential, because Rogue . . . seriously, when Rogue is your LEADER you know a) everyone's characterization is off, and b) the formation of the cast doesn't go well with the plots. I mean . . . does anyone care about what's happening in this title? How can anyone argue that whatever random, vaguely defined villain they fought in the last story arc, that that villain's relation to Rogue is even 1/100 as interesting or memorable as Cassandra Nova's relation to Xavier, or the exploration of Xavier's as a an actual school of maladjusted outcasts, or anything else that Morrison did, which wasn't afraid to confront the core issues of these characters and their world? Well, if you think otherwise, enjoy X-Men #200, it's just around the corner and it's sure to usher in another "unforgettable" X-Men "event"... Not like that happens every year or anything... I get it that, for example, people would have a problem with what Morrison did with Emma, and Cyclops and Jean... But he did things like that in ways that made since in terms of the characters. You may not like Emma, but--that's the point. If you want the status quo, though, where nothing's at stake, where no lasting, meaningful (based on the history of the book as a history of realistic people) changes are made, then, well, I can understand why you wouldn't like New X-Men. For the tourist-like or consumeristic fan, Marvel long ago began to provide a wide, wide, wide, wide, wide, wide, wide, wide variety of X-titles for you to choose from, if you mostly only care about seeing your favorite characters go through the same motions over and over again.

EDIT: With that said, Chris Bachalo is probably one of my top ten artists of all time, and in contrast I don't even think it's fair to list Quietly up there as the defining aritst of that run. He did like 1/3 of the issues at best.

[The Lucky One]

I'm having a hard time getting my broken record to play, but as always, I would have loved Morrison's X-Men... as a new book with new characters. But it wasn't the X-Men, so it's not an eligible choice in this poll. Thus, there's no contest; it's Carey by a mile.

-D

[Beast]

I'm having a hard time getting my broken record to play, but as always, I would have loved Morrison's X-Men... as a new book with new characters. But it wasn't the X-Men, so it's not an eligible choice in this poll. Thus, there's no contest; it's Carey by a mile.

-D
Exactly. He should have taken the Ultimate X-Men job when it was offered.

Instead of just writing his X-Men run like it was Ultimate X-Men.

[Mikl C]

Much as I like Carey. Cmon. Morrison wins. So badly.

[jarrod]

I dunno, Morrison's X-Men all felt pretty true to character... certainly beats Whedon's nostalgia sitcom. Now there's a writer who *really* should've been shunted to Ulimate instead...

My only real problem with Morrison's characterization was the Xorntendo mess, though it's somewhat explainable as being Sublime driven. Still no good though. Robo-tittays was a bit of an eye roller too, but way less outwardly offensive.

Jean and Xaiver in particular were amazing on the other hand... both once again (finally) being the clever, driven, visionary leaders they were under CC. It was like coming home again, like the 90s never happened, I'd forgotton how much I liked both characters. Ditto for Emma, but to a lesser extent. Loved his (all too brief) Storm handling too.... Morrison's great with the X-heads, possibly better than the legend himself.

[The Lucky One]

I dunno, Morrison's X-Men all felt pretty true to character...

Hey, agree to disagree. ;) I suppose Emma felt... well, not like herself, but like her really, really old self. And Logan was, minus the costume gripes, dead on. But Cyke, Beast, Jean, and Xavier weren't the characters I know. They weren't bad, they were just entirely new characters with familiar names and faces.

-D

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

I like how Morrison took chances that Bryan Singer took first. ;)

[Dagger]

I dunno, Morrison's X-Men all felt pretty true to character... certainly beats Whedon's nostalgia sitcom. Now there's a writer who *really* should've been shunted to Ulimate instead...

My only real problem with Morrison's characterization was the Xorntendo mess, though it's somewhat explainable as being Sublime driven. Still no good though. Robo-tittays was a bit of an eye roller too, but way less outwardly offensive.

Jean and Xaiver in particular were amazing on the other hand... both once again (finally) being the clever, driven, visionary leaders they were under CC. It was like coming home again, like the 90s never happened, I'd forgotton how much I liked both characters. Ditto for Emma, but to a lesser extent. Loved his (all too brief) Storm handling too.... Morrison's great with the X-heads, possibly better than the legend himself.
If you really think that, then you've never read the X-Men before, because they felt nothing like themselves.

And if that was a love letter, I'd rather it be lost in the mail.
But that's my opinion. My opinion>your opinion, since my opinion means more to me than yours, see how that works out;)

[Matthew K.]

Carey//Bachelo//Ramos stint has been too brief for me to accurately judge it with Morrisson//Quietly

they taste like two different breeds of comics

[Christopher O]

Much as I like Carey. Cmon. Morrison wins. So badly.
My thoughts exactly. Carey's run has been a fun romp, but he hasn't done anything remotely significant. In contrast, Morrison's run was significant from beginning to end.

[Matthew K.]

My thoughts exactly. Carey's run has been a fun romp, but he hasn't done anything remotely significant. In contrast, Morrison's run was significant from beginning to end.

...significantly bad at the end

[Christopher O]

...significantly bad at the end
I loved the end of Morrison's run. "Planet X" had lots of ups and downs, but "Here Comes Tomorrow" was a great story. Both had incredibly significant ramifications.

[Jake V]

Uh yeah. Morrison hands down. Without a doubt the best take on the characters and the themes of the X-Men in the past 20 years.

When I'm old and done with comics (or the industry dies), the NXM omnibus is what I'll pull out when I want to read an X-Men story. Everything since then is just fan fiction of varying degrees of quality.

[Matthew K.]

I loved the end of Morrison's run. "Planet X" had lots of ups and downs, but "Here Comes Tomorrow" was a great story. Both had incredibly significant ramifications.

i favored the beginning much more. it was super decent in the start & with Cassandra Nova, the hushed silent issue in Xavier's head, the student body, new dress code, the Scott/Emma/Jean thing was decent in retrospect as Scott was bored with Jean & his life at the point...but things seemed to roll down hill a bit from there---especially the art when they brought Isore Kordey (his work reminded my of pigeon crap on your car window...it can be seen patterned art, but mostly it's a pain in the ass you want to go away)

I stopped reading somewhere toward the end of Planet X & skimmed HCT...but from the summaries & browseing at the comic store that lore wasn't my taste.

[Jake V]

i favored the beginning much more. it was super decent in the start & with Cassandra Nova, the hushed silent issue in Xavier's head, the student body, new dress code, the Scott/Emma/Jean thing was decent in retrospect as Scott was bored with Jean & his life at the point...but things seemed to roll down hill a bit from there---especially the art when they brought Isore Kordey (his work reminded my of pigeon crap on your car window...it can be seen patterned art, but mostly it's a pain in the ass you want to go away)

I stopped reading somewhere toward the end of Planet X & skimmed HCT...but from the summaries & browseing at the comic store that lore wasn't my taste.

YOU MUST NOT HAVE A TASTE FOR AWESOME.

seriously.

[Chiasm]

Morrison's easily.

Milligan will go down as the worst X-writer ever bar none.

Austen's storylines sucked but without Austen there would have been no Sammy and Sammy was awesome.

Carey's run is good so far but Morrison's was earth shattering. He took the X-verse, turned it on its head, and told great stories in the process. His work has been substantially cheapened since then by retcons but that doesn't take away from how great his run was at the time.

[Matthew K.]

YOU MUST NOT HAVE A TASTE FOR AWESOME.

seriously.

i can handle the awes...just not so much the ome

edit: reconsidering things i would give HCT a read...but i'd rather read something from the quarter bin before planet x...fantomex is like a plague

[Christopher O]

i favored the beginning much more.
I also favored the beginning, "E for Extinction" may possibly be the tightest, most well-written X-Men story I've ever read. It's already a classic. Of course, the end of his run was still great, but I imagine it's hard to top yourself when you start so high.

[streator]

morrison & co.

[Pro]

Morrisson and Quietly was my favorite run in years. It was innovative, it was exciting, it was surprising, new faces and new takes on old faces.
I even enjoyed Xorneto basically being defeated by calling him an old fogey with outdated ideas :).

[The Lucky One]

I also favored the beginning, "E for Extinction" may possibly be the tightest, most well-written X-Men story I've ever read. It's already a classic.

I've read it twice so far and didn't like it either time. Does it get better on the third reading?

-D

[TinMan]

Carey and Bachalo was the obvious choice for me. I can't stand Quitely or Bachalo, Larroca ain't to bad but he's not one of my favorite artists so his teaming with two writers that weren't good on this book automatically disqualified his runs.

Now, Carey > Morrison in my opinion. Morrison's run is overhyped, ignores past continuity and past characterization. The man had some kickass concepts that I'm grateful for the introduction to, but I feel the execution was lacking.

Carey on the other hand, while not having written the most "epic" tales as of yet, has beautiful characterization, great ideas and a wonderful sense of story telling. The man is a genius without a doubt and is quickly becoming one of my favorite comic writers, without a doubt... he just needs a better penciler. :p

[jarrod]

I like how Morrison took chances that Bryan Singer took first. ;)
lol. fair enough, it is sort of true. :D


If you really think that, then you've never read the X-Men before, because they felt nothing like themselves.

And if that was a love letter, I'd rather it be lost in the mail.
But that's my opinion. My opinion>your opinion, since my opinion means more to me than yours, see how that works out;)
Your opinion's shit, as is your perception it seems. ;)

[Christopher O]

I've read it twice so far and didn't like it either time. Does it get better on the third reading?

-D
You also like Longshot, so the problem may just be with you. :p

[rilokyle]

Hard, but I think I'm going to go into the minority and say Milligan.

While I am loving Carey's run right now, it's not mind-blowing stuff. Same can be said for Milligan's, but he wrote the best Polaris in recent years in my opinion, and he gets bonus points for having both Havok and Polaris on his team. X-Men #180 is like my favorite x-issue in the last few years. Except for the last page of course.

[rwsmith]

I loved the end of Morrison's run. "Planet X" had lots of ups and downs, but "Here Comes Tomorrow" was a great story. Both had incredibly significant ramifications.

I agree. Carey's run has been fun, but it doesn't carry nearly the same weight as Morrison's in terms of lasting implact. Having said that, Morrison was on the book for over 3 years, and Carey is just getting ready to start his second.

And from the looks of things, year 2 is gonna start with a bang!

[The Lucky One]

You also like Longshot, so the problem may just be with you. :p

Feh. Anyone who can read the original miniseries and NOT like Longshot is not someone I ever care to know. ;)

-D

[Matthew K.]

Longshot is/used to be kickass

[Dagger]

Your opinion's shit, as is your perception it seems. ;)
That's hilarious, my opinion is shit from someone who actually likes Kordey's art. At least we really know who's opinion is shit here.:D

[jarrod]

At least we really know who's opinion is shit here.:D
Yeah, Dazzlette #37.

[Dagger]

Yeah, Dazzlette #37.

OOH!!! That's soo cool! That'd be a killer cut down if it were true! I'm not a Dazzlette, CC wankman.

[jarrod]

Well, close enough. Dagger's just a cheap knock off anyway, and Dazzlette #37 sounds more inclusive than being the lonesome Daggette.

What's a CC wankman though? Not into bears myself...

[Dagger]

Well, close enough. Dagger's just a cheap knock off anyway, and Dazzlette #37 sounds more inclusive than being the lonesome Daggette.

What's a CC wankman though? Not into bears myself...
I so believe you on you not being into bears.:rolleyes:

Seriously dude, if you weren't trying to cut someone down all the time, you might actually be an alright poster here.

[Karl H]

torn between Morrison and Carey. Then saw X-men #200 hype add, ejaculated in pants and voted Carey...

[Karl H]

I so believe you on you not being into bears.:rolleyes:

Seriously dude, if you weren't trying to cut someone down all the time, you might actually be an alright poster here.

you say that... do you really mean it... Lol :D

[jarrod]

Uh maybe you should rewind and check out where the condesention started then?

Personally, I don't mind the schoolyard mudslinging here with the nerdy S&K love in the other thread. :D

[Dagger]

you say that... do you really mean it... Lol :D
lol, I only mean what I say to you, stud!starts dry-humping you.

[Dagger]

Uh maybe you should rewind and check out where the condesention started then?

Personally, I don't mind the schoolyard mudslinging here with the nerdy S&K love in the other thread. :D
I still didn't see it, but I might have come off that way. I personally think it's dumb to constantly attack someone, so I'm extending my hand. Just trying to take the grown up approach here.

[We R. Venom]

I like Carey and Bachalo, with a little dash of Ramos. Milligan was...uhhh how do I put this...just ok and bad as well. Larroca had some issues but some of the stories were alright, i guess.

[jarrod]

Okay, I'll kiss & makeup. And then...

*shoves fist in vaseline*

[Archer]

I'm voting Morrison, because even though I disliked a lot of what he did (with Magneto especially) it was at least recognisable to me as strong stories.

Looking back at the others, I'd have a hard time telling you what any of them were even about.

Morrison - actual stories that I didn't always like
The others - people in tights fighting each other

[Faded]

Okay, I'll kiss & makeup. And then...

*shoves fist in vaseline*

LOL.

That's kinda gross.

[Hi-Fi]

I like Kordey's art. :o

[Mikl C]

BREAK IT UP BITCHEZ!

Jarrod i like you when you're not being an ass. Or dissling Lobdell. Stop it!

[Omega Alpha]

Morrison is by far better than anyone on any X-title in the last 20 years. He injected new life on a franchise that was stagnated, had amazing concepts, and handled most of his characters very well.

[Diablito]

Morrison is by far better than anyone on any X-title in the last 20 years. He injected new life on a franchise that was stagnated, had amazing concepts, and handled most of his characters very well.

I myself do not think Morisson is that great. His concept was hit or miss for me, and many ideas that he created where eventually thrown away. I think that his stories are held in such high regards by other people only because the X-Men comics were in a slump before him, and then went back to a slump after him (only recently has comics gotten out of this slump- thanks to Mike Carey, co.)

[Mikl C]

His Nuff Said issue alone is better than the entire run of 2/3 the choices above.

[Brian "Vash" Ashby]

Morrison run would have a lot more umph if all the major character moments werent the result of a character being mind controlled into doing the big change.


As for him having a longer lasting impact that carey? Well considering his cast had 4 heavy hitters and Carey's has 1 whom is sort of a 6th man heavy hitter, not always about, thats to be expected

You could write any story with Cyke, Jean, Wolverine, and Xavier and have them become vegans or something, and that could just as easily leave a long lasting impact on the x-verse.

[Jottma]

I voted for Morrison and Quietly, beause first and foremost Cyke is my favorite charcter. Now this doesn't mean that I can't tell when my fave character is being written horribly, like case and point his portrayal in the X-Men movie franchise. Also I definately cared more about where Morrison was taking the X-Men as a title, than I do with Carey. Also to me it really seem that he does infact get these characters than some here may choose to believe. I will always have love for the Morrison era of X-Men comics simply for the wonderful vision he had for this franchise.

"John...Steve... I'm so sorry. I know there's something MORE than just this world. Deep breath. Don't be scared. Just look into my eyes."

That quote even after all this time, is still very powerful to me.

[Canemacar]

Morrison: He was an iconoclast IMO. Had he taken some of his concepts and actually tweaked them to fit the characters and history instead of jamming them into the coninuity like a puzzle piece that won't fit, I probably would've enjoyed the run a whole lot more. As been said: he should've been put on Ultimate X-men.

Austen: Everyone just pretends it never happened and thats probably for the best.

Milligan: My sentiments echo Chiasm's verbatim.

Carey: It's been pretty tight so far, but he doesn't rock the boat as much as he could. Maybe if he sticks around for a few years and builds up a fan-base he'll be able to wield some more control and do status-quo shattering things.

[UncannyAsianGirl]

I like Carey's run better than Morrison's.

But it doesn't mean that I didn't like Morrison's run at all. He did have epic, sweeping stories, and while they were good, for the most part, I think they were too big and too far-reaching, and that the changes that he made to the status quo were too drastic and jarring. I see this as the primary reason why a lot of what he's done has been retconned. From what he did, it was evident that he was given a lot of freedom to tell all the stories that he wanted, and rather than adhering to any continuity that came before it, he went and created his own. That would have been well and good, fantastic even, if this was his own title, or the only X-book out there, but the X-Books are a shared universe, and it wasn't really fair that some of the other writers had to bend their stories around his, or give up some of their characters because he wanted to use them. I'm glad that he didn't get Rogue, because he wanted to kill her. :eek:

His characterization of a few characters was pretty good, the best being Scott. I disliked what he did with Magneto, I still don't understand why he had to turn Hank into a cat, :o I liked how he outted Xavier and the Institute as a school for mutants, and I even sorta like the Scott and Emma relationship, but I don't like that he had to kill Jean in order to get them together.

Now on to Carey's run, I know it's not perfect, but it's pretty darn close, IMHO of course. ;) While I don't love every little thing about it, there's still a whole lot that I do. As a lot of people have been saying, the new villains have pretty much been the weakest part of the run. For the most part they have been flash-in-the-pans, but I think it's because they were created as plot-devices to further a character's story. Pandemic for Rogue, the Mummudrai for Cable, and Hecatomb for the both of them. It's very likely that these villains won't be remembered, (I don't think it was even his intention to try to make them all that memorable, since not much can be done to build up a new villain in only 3 issues, especially if that little plot's wrapped up by the last issue) but the changes made to the characters will be. He's changing the status quo of the characters, and they just might stick for a while.

Also, He's trying to fit in so much, so quickly, and while it may be a bit overwhelming or bewildering to try and comprehend it all, (or very at times)I'm still having fun, and I normally don't enjoy mad-scientists/sci-fi/aliens from outer space plots.

I think his characterization more than makes up for it though. He likes the characters so much that it shows, and he understands why the fans like them too, so he isn't going to radically alter them to fit his image, and if he is going to do something huge with them that might not go down so well, he actually tells us first, and explains why he's doing the things he's doing. There are very few readers who aren't happy with how their favorites are being written, he's making characters who weren't very much liked likable, and also, there are a lot of people who want him to eventually write their favorite characters.

He's working with an 8-person team, and yet none of them are wallpaper, each member has a role to play. The character interactions and dynamics are also just plain fun. While the concept of including villains or lesser known characters on a team is not new, what's new is the execution. The whole scenario with having 4 people on the team with prior leadership experience provides for a unique story-telling gimmick too, since if the team splits up, or one leader falls, another could easily step in and pick up the slack. We've already seen that happen, and it was pulled off pretty well.

I like that he isn't trying to shape everything into his image, and that he's a huge continuity buff, since it shows a lot of respect for what's come before, and for the other writers. (He's also a huge Morrison fan, why else would he reuse the concept of the Mummudrai?) On top of that, he's very receptive and open with the fanbase.

It's easy to say that Morrison impacted the X-universe in a far bigger way than Carey, because Grant's had more time in the driver's seat than Mike's had so far. Morrison had 3 years (114-156), and Carey's only had one. Actually, it hasn't even been a full year yet, and we don't even know if he's going to get the chance to stick around as long as Morrison did, but his run isn't over yet, and there's still time for him to make a big impact on the X-titles. His first opportunity to do so is coming up next month with the Endangered Species stories.

So while it's true that Morrison helped to reinvigorate the title/franchise (I think the movie helped a lot too), I think Carey's contributing a great deal into making it fun again. :D

[Flâneur]

Okay, I'll kiss & makeup. And then...

*shoves fist in vaseline*
Hah, you're awfully kinky aren't you?:p

Your trolling needs refinement though, possibly an injection of /b/ as well.
I like Carey's run better than Morrison's.
I love your enthusiasm and perspective, you're like the quintessential (non-bitchy) comic fan.

I think at the moment I have to give my vote to Morrison if only because we got to see him stretch his wings and tell what he wanted for a pretty lengthy run (by today's standards). I also have to give it a stamp of approval for the stories that it provided support for or pressured other books into using e.g District X, X-Factor, parts of X-treme X-men, C&N's New Mutants, parts of Carey's X-men, parts of Astonishing and so on. However I'm enjoying Carey's stuff immensely and think he'll be able to do the same given time - he just hasn't had the time yet.

[Tre Styles]

Well, since Carey's run is not over yet, I wouldn't say that his and Bachalo's run is the best...yet. It's on it's way to being a great run, and it just may trump Morrison's run. Both of them, Morrison and Carey have done great things with the X-Men. Morrison, more than anyone in recent years, including Carey right now, shook up the status quo. I like that he really expanded Xavier's school and brought in some new faces...which led to some other titles, like Academy X which is now the "New X-Men" title. Yeah, I didn't like the Emma/Scott thing at first, and it still gives me some..."eh" moments, but it WAS different, and it's still in effect. Someone was arguing about Lobdell's Emma vs. Morrison's. Well, without Lobdell, Morrison probably wouldn't have thought about Emma and went in another direction. Carey, has brought in some fun and cool things. But the status quo is not reallllly being shook up other than Rogue is running a team (but she was asked to be leader before in Claremont's run, so that's not that new...the execution is better though), and her X-Men are no longer with the main team. He's got some great characters, and I love the execution of his stories. Yet, there's still nothing "major" to me about his run....yet.
But it's not an either/or situation for me. I enjoyed Morrisons run, I am enjoying Carey's run. I think both were and are natural continuations of the never ending X-Men saga.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Morrison. Easily. Cojones and clever would sum it up, really.

Carey's run so far is fine, but waaayyy overrated because the guy is so damn enthusiastic and fan-friendly.

[RoguefanAM]

I like Mike's run better than Morrison’s run. But for all the 'wrong' reasons (i.e. Morrison's cast being dull IMO, hating the art, etc...).

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Cause Rogue being in charge has nothing to do with it. :D

[RoguefanAM]

Course' not, sugah. ;)

[DDM]

Although I am enjoying Mike Carey's X-Men, I voted for Grant Morrison's New X-Men for making a bold step into a new direction; however, Morrison lost himself half-way through his run & never recovered. Chris Claremont picked up the pieces for X-Treme X-Men which made for better books between them.

[DarthCyclopsRLZ]

Although I am enjoying Mike Carey's X-Men, I voted for Grant Morrison's New X-Men for making a bold step into a new direction; however, Morrison lost himself half-way through his run & never recovered.

Semi-agreed.

All that was between Imperial and Weapon-X was so-so. The rest was bloody brilliant, though.


Chris Claremont picked up the pieces for X-Treme X-Men which made for better books between them. Am one of those who just thought Extreme was BAAAD. Oh well. :D

[Jota]

Morrisson! It's not even close!