Reverend Jerry Falwell is dead

[HomerJay]

Why hasn't William fucking Shakespeare risen from his goddamn grave to call Falwell an evil bigot, while we're on this completely asinine tangent.
Is this the end of Zombie Shakespeare?

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[Dreadstar]

Eviler? .

Evilsquared.

[Iangould]

Wow. You traced the money raised by Falwell and tracked its circulation, right to the point where it landed in the hands of mercenaries along with orders to sever limbs in Mozambique.

It's not that difficult when he was publicly urging his viewers to buy KrugerRands to help the South Africans beat sanctions and the South Africans have themselves admitted they were directly funding Renamo.

[Agent Helix]

Is this the end of Zombie Shakespeare?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/HomerJay64/images.jpg

No. He still has to defeat his mortal enemy, Steambot Francis Bacon.

[HomerJay]

Perhaps it will help if we first establish a "Good to Evil Spectrum".
On one end is Jesus (an evil score of 0), at the other end is Ted Bundy (an evil score of 1000), and somewhere in the middle is that guy at the office that never flushes (500 or so).

Where would you put the following individuals and why?
a) Mother Theresa
b) George W. Bush
c) Donald Trump
d) Adolf Hitler
e) Nelson Mandela
f) Dan DiDio
g) Larry Flynt
h) Chuck Woolery
i) Alan Thicke
j) Jerry Falwell
k) Fred Phelps
l) Osama bin Laden
m) Vic Tayback

[Slam_Bradley]

Evilsquared.


Uber-evil.




Maybe it's too soon.

[Slam_Bradley]

m) Vic Tayback



Nothing compares to the evil of Vic Tayback.


What that man did to those waitresses...

[Paul McEnery]

Perhaps it will help if we first establish a "Good to Evil Spectrum".
On one end is Jesus (an evil score of 0), at the other end is Ted Bundy (an evil score of 1000), and somewhere in the middle is that guy at the office that never flushes (500 or so).

Where would you put the following individuals and why?
a) Mother Theresa
b) George W. Bush
c) Donald Trump
d) Adolf Hitler
e) Nelson Mandela
f) Dan DiDio
g) Larry Flynt
h) Chuck Woolery
i) Alan Thicke
j) Jerry Falwell
k) Fred Phelps
l) Osama bin Laden
m) Vic Tayback

Ooh! This is fun. Except I don't know everyone.

So obviously Dan Didio is the most evil man in the universe ever. Then we have to go:

Hitler, for ruining internet arguments
Jerry Falwell, for, um, wait a sec, I know I got something
George Bush, for being a mass murdering maniac
Osama Bin Laden, for being nearly as much of a dick as Fallwell
Fred Phelps, for being a lawyer
Mother Teresa, for making the problem worse
Donald Trump, for making that TV show
Nelson Mandela, for not being even a little bit evil

[Michael P]

But what about Alan Thicke, man?

[meethraa]

Yay .

[Paul McEnery]

Yay .

Yay indeed.

Limehead kitty is back.

[HomerJay]

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[Spackling Compound]

Perhaps it will help if we first establish a "Good to Evil Spectrum".
On one end is Jesus (an evil score of 0), at the other end is Ted Bundy (an evil score of 1000), and somewhere in the middle is that guy at the office that never flushes (500 or so).



Here's my list of evil as indicated by women.
0: No evil: my mom. A saint.
1: My nursery school teacher. A saint, but a former Miss Mississippi so something probably dirty happened somewhere.
2: Everyone's grandma. But gotta be some evil there somewhere or your mom would bring you over to visit more, now wouldn't she?
3: Natalie Wood. I blame whatever evil she had on Robert Wagner.
4: Kay, the girl who lived around my block when I was a kid but was way older but played in the snow with me that one time but never came back again.
5: Melanie, that witch who took my heart, squeezed the blood out of it, then used it for an ass hat that she allowed her troglodyte ex-boyfriend wear when he was done porking her on the side. Call me.
6: Sr. Maude Marie, 7th grade science teacher. Good right hook, the nun. Also threatened to deball the boys with some shears.
7: Marie..yet another Marie. Worst secretary ever. EVER.
8: Annette. With her bare hands and teeth, she tore out my dignity. I'd like that back, please. You can return the Peter Gabriel "So" cassette, too. In Your Eyes isn't our song...anymore.
9: Rosie O' Donnell...wth! You used to be funny. I bought your books for my nieces!
10: Sue Denim. A relatively new poster. Until I found out she's a dude. "She" explained that "her" screen name when spoken is "pseudonym". Evil. Let me just remember you...how I want to. Don't take that away from me.

So, Falwell would be a 6.

[Spackling Compound]

Yay indeed.

Limehead kitty is back.

That makes us YABS. Brilliant.
Evil score...11.

[jessecuster3]

Again...I don't think you know what that word really means.

Inconcievable!

[Adam C]

Source: The New York Times article I referenced earlier in this thread.

EXCERPT
To Mr. Falwell, that suggested a movement of people, not just evangelical or fundamentalist Christians, but other Protestants and Catholics and Jews, even atheists, with a similar agenda on abortion, gay rights, patriotism and moral values. “I was convinced,” he wrote, “that there was a ‘moral majority’ out there among these more than 200 million Americans sufficient in number to turn back the flood tide of moral permissiveness, family breakdown and general capitulation to evil and to foreign policies such as Marxism-Leninism.”

link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/15/obituaries/15cnd-falwell.html?ex=1336881600&en=475295bc07f015f1&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

That's not proof that Moral Majority was made up of a diverse number of faiths or had atheist members. All it tells us is that Falwell believed that his views were shared by the majority of Americans, but it says nothing of the actual membership of the Moral Majority.

[Mike Smash!]

That's not proof that Moral Majority was made up of a diverse number of faiths or had atheist members. All it tells us is that Falwell believed that his views were shared by the majority of Americans, but it says nothing of the actual membership of the Moral Majority.Especially since the Moral Majority was such an unabashed Christian organization that openly pushed against church/state separation. Every notable member was a Christian fundamentalist: Falwell, Robertson, LaHaye, Weyrich, Kennedy... I'd be shocked if it had any non-Christian members.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Agreed. If Falwell is "evil", then that means we need a stronger word to describe third-world dictators who rape and murder their people.


What about just using adjectives? Things like "more evil" or "fuckin' incredibly evil?"

[Sabrina_Fried]

Coming in late to this thread, I know, but I read this on the news today and well, quite honestly I'm pretty apathetic towards the entire situation.

Mr. Falwell, regardless of his actions or beliefs, was a mortal man, and he died just like everyone else will eventually die someday. I don't particuarly agree with pretty much anything he said or did in the public sphere, but there isn't much you can do to stop idiots from spouting venomous hate if that's what they want to do. It was his constitutional right after all. He had his 15 minutes of fame, and then some. Now he is dead. So it goes.

It will be a fitting tribute to him if after his passing all the organizations he was in charge of simply fall apart due to a lack of a charismatic leader, or else find a leader that will take them in a direction he may not necessarily have approved of. This way in time his legacy will fade to nothing. His family will mourn him, I'm sure, but perhaps the people who will replace him will find more important issues to focus on than the sexuality of teletubbies.

Sabrina

[JeffreyWKramer]

Especially since the Moral Majority was such an unabashed Christian organization that openly pushed against church/state separation. Every notable member was a Christian fundamentalist: Falwell, Robertson, LaHaye, Weyrich, Kennedy... I'd be shocked if it had any non-Christian members.

Oh, there were few Jewish members of the MM, and probably even a couple of athiests. But keep in mind, that Indian kid that did the school shooting in Minnesota a year or so back identified himself as a Nazi. Any group of significant size is going to attract a few folk that really don't belong, but don't know any better, by reason of either insanity or simple stupidity, and the more extreme the group, the more likely it will attract some even more extremely disturbed folk.

[Iangould]

It will be a fitting tribute to him if after his passing all the organizations he was in charge of simply fall apart due to a lack of a charismatic leader...

Maybe it just reflects my ignorance of the religious right but most of its prominent leaders (e.g. Swaggart and Robinson) are in their 70's. To a poorly informed outsider at least it seems they're failing to produce the next generation of leaders to replace those men.

Senator Sam Brownback is obviously a political rather than religious leader but he represents an interesting possible evolution of the religious right. He's a conservative Christian opposed to gay marriage and abortion. But he also has a much broader political agenda and is surprisingly liberal on some issues (immigration; the environment; human rights).

If the Religious Right is undergoing a generational change in leadership, it may have interesting consequences for their current very close relationship with the Republican Party.

[Sean Whitmore]

What about just using adjectives? Things like "more evil" or "fuckin' incredibly evil?"

Maybe the average poster has time to type out all those adjectives, but I'm a man on the go. If it's more than one word, two syllables, then I at least demand an acronym.


SEAN

[Iangould]

We need to be systematic and recognize the different types of evil.

Hitler's pretty much the accepted gold standard for political evil.

He killed around 100 million people.

So we can judge how evil other politicians are by comparing them to Hitler.

Mao rates around 3-400 MilliHitlers, as does Stalin.

Saddam Hussein rates around 20 MilliHitlers

Pol Pot and Suharto come in at around 10 MilliHitler.

George W. Bush and Robert Mugabe are currently tied somewhere around 6 MilliHitlers.

[Magneto_X]

Ian:

I like the way you think.

[Chris Nowlin]

What about just using adjectives? Things like "more evil" or "fuckin' incredibly evil?"

I once again disagree with you completely.



Words that modify adjectives are adverbs.

[Matt]

You should draw up a little chart with their heads on top of columns or something.

[Mike Smash!]

I once again disagree with you completely.



Words that modify adjectives are adverbs.I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this.

[Pól Rua]

We need to be systematic and recognize the different types of evil.

Hitler's pretty much the accepted gold standard for political evil.

He killed around 100 million people.

So we can judge how evil other politicians are by comparing them to Hitler.

Mao rates around 3-400 MilliHitlers, as does Stalin.

Saddam Hussein rates around 20 MilliHitlers

Pol Pot and Suharto come in at around 10 MilliHitler.

George W. Bush and Robert Mugabe are currently tied somewhere around 6 MilliHitlers.

No relation.

[Paul McEnery]

We need to be systematic and recognize the different types of evil.

Hitler's pretty much the accepted gold standard for political evil.

He killed around 100 million people..

Cheap shot that gets international capital and empire off the hook.

As Mark E. Smith says: Who Makes the Nazis?

Who invests in fascist parties to destroy working class movements? Who installs governments that hate the freedom and self-determination of their people? Who stomps on the civil liberties of non-whites, women, gays and anyone else they can think of?

And which people have been murdering people this way since we've got history?

It's too bloody easy to blame Hitler. We've got to look at our primate heritage and realize the way it was expressed, and defeat it. Not just personally, but politically. And not just politically, but personally.

[Paul McEnery]

No relation.

There is no way on God's earth I'm eating a pot pie you've made.

Too much poop!

[Tages]

We need to be systematic and recognize the different types of evil.

Hitler's pretty much the accepted gold standard for political evil.

He killed around 100 million people.

...where are you getting those figures?

Since Hitler can't really be held responsible for the war in Asia (since the Empire of Japan invaded China in 1933, the year Hitler became Chancellor and before the Tripartite Pact was established), and the invasion of Poland that began the war in Europe was a joint op with the USSR.

Even if you counted those things, the entirety of WWII and the Nazi Holocaust comes out to about 35 mil short of the figure you're quoting.

[Alex]

Even if you counted those things, the entirety of WWII and the Nazi Holocaust comes out to about 35 mil short of the figure you're quoting.

Tages, why do you love nazis?
And hate freedom.

[Drew Van T.]

Tages, why do you love nazis?
And hate freedom.

The bigger crime, by far, being...hating freedom!

[Winslow]

Tages, why do you love nazis?
And hate freedom.

He's also shifting blame to the Japanese.

He's an evil bigot.

[Alex]

The bigger crime, by far, being...hating freedom!

As i thought about it, i take it back.
He loves freedom, FOR THE ARYAN RACE!!!!!

[Alex]

He's also shifting blame to the Japanese.

He's an evil bigot.

That gets me so steamed!
I am totaly a bigot against bigots, and evil, and the japanese.
But not the Japanese.

[JeffreyWKramer]

I once again disagree with you completely.



Words that modify adjectives are adverbs.

Evil, used as I have used it, is not a verb. It's a descriptor, thus an adjective; saying "Falwell was evil" is shorthand for saying "Falwell was an evil person", with "evil" being a modifer to "person" in the same way I might state "Shaq is a tall person."

Adding "very evil" or "incredibly fucking evil" just adds further modifiers to the adjective "evil."

[Winslow]

I'm still not comfortable with calling Falwell "evil."

Although Ian's Hitler scale of evilness (like Mohr's hardness scale) may solve the "evil" semantic dilemma for me. :D

"Bigot" - guilty as charged.

[Spackling Compound]

It's been a couple of days and I really haven't been aware of any major coverage of Falwell's life and death on the major media circuits.
Sort of a statement in and of itself. I mean even Anna Nicole Smith's son got more coverage.

[Tages]

Tages, why do you love nazis?
And hate freedom.

Their stylish uniforms!

I also hate babies.

The bigger crime, by far, being...hating freedom!

Obviously.

He's also shifting blame to the Japanese.

He's an evil bigot.

I hate non-Nazis! Also, Nazis.

[Alex]

Their stylish uniforms!

I also hate babies.



If you hate the way they taste, but enjoy killing them, i'm calling you mr. liberal.
If you hate them so much you eat them, i'm calling you mr. conservative.
If you neither eat or kill them, but only hate them, then i'm going to call you Prince Cupcake Laundramir.

[JeffreyWKramer]

It's been a couple of days and I really haven't been aware of any major coverage of Falwell's life and death on the major media circuits.
Sort of a statement in and of itself. I mean even Anna Nicole Smith's son got more coverage.

There was a lot on CNN, NPR, etc up through yesterday morning. He's since fallen more or less off the map.

Good riddance.

[Arrjay]

This guy was an asshole.

I'm glad he's dead.

"The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the Devil to keep Christians from running their own country."

--- Jerry Falwell, Sermon on July 4, 1976

“If you’re not a born-again Christian, you’re a failure as a human being.”

--- Jerry Falwell

"I hope I live to see the day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!"

--- Jerry Falwell, 1979

"You've got to kill the terrorists before the killing stops and I am for the President—chase them all over the world, if it takes ten years, blow them all away in the name of the Lord."

--- Jerry Falwell (Oct 24 2004)

“And the fact that John Kerry would not support a federal marriage amendment prohibiting gay marriage, equates in our minds as someone 150 years ago saying I'm personally opposed to slavery, but if my neighbor wants to own one or two that's OK. We don't buy that."

--- Jerry Falwell (Nov 3, 2004)

"I listen to feminists and all these radical gals... These women just need a man in the house. That's all they need. Most of the feminists need a man to tell them what time of day it is and to lead them home. And they blew it and they're mad at all men. Feminists hate men. They're sexist. They hate men; that's their problem."

--- Jerry Falwell

“AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharaoh’s charioteers. “

--- Jerry Falwell

“You'll be riding along in an automobile. You'll be the driver perhaps. You're a Christian. There'll be several people in the automobile with you, maybe someone who is not a Christian. When the trumpet sounds you and the other born-again believers in that automobile will be instantly caught away - you will disappear, leaving behind only your clothes and physical things that cannot inherit eternal life. That unsaved person or persons in the automobile will suddenly be startled to find the car suddenly somewhere crashes.... Other cars on the highway driven by believers will suddenly be out of control and stark pandemonium will occur on ... every highway in the world where Christians are caught away from the driver’s wheel.”

--- Jerry Falwell

Rest in various worm-chewed, rotten pieces you bastard!

[JeffreyWKramer]

I'm still not comfortable with calling Falwell "evil."


And why exactly is that? Is it a logical distinction, or an emotional one, again reflecting some tribalistic identification w/ him as a fellow Christian, albeit a pretty crappy example of one?

I mean, really, when you have someone who is not only a bigot, but an advocacy for bigotry and for bigoted causes, and someone who makes so many hatemongering sorts of statements, how exactly does that not qualify as evil?

On the other hand, NPR yesterday played some sound bites from Falwell that included one in which he said global warming was something fake that Satan come up with to distract the righteous from real problems like gay marriage and TV violence. I'm not sure whether that more supports the idea that he was stupid more than evil, or simply stupid and evil.

[Boldido]

Well I just got a similar topic closed at another board I visit because I referenced all the crap Falwell pulled in his life regarding Apartheid and the civil rights movement and was chasitzed for inferring from his past that he was racist. It was considered to be "libel" by the moderator.

Some people need some fucking dictionaries.

[Shade]

I'm not sure whether that more supports the idea that he was stupid more than evil, or simply stupid and evil.

The two are not mutually exclusive. There's plenty of evidence to support both equally.

[JeffreyWKramer]

Well I just got a similar topic closed at another board I visit because I referenced all the crap Falwell pulled in his life regarding Apartheid and the civil rights movement and was chasitzed for inferring from his past that he was racist. It was considered to be "libel" by the moderator.

Some people need some fucking dictionaries.

I would have asked the imbicile moderator if it was also libel to refer to David Duke as a racist.

[Slam_Bradley]

Well I just got a similar topic closed at another board I visit because I referenced all the crap Falwell pulled in his life regarding Apartheid and the civil rights movement and was chasitzed for inferring from his past that he was racist. It was considered to be "libel" by the moderator.

Some people need some fucking dictionaries.


See what happens when you stray from home.

[Chris Nowlin]

“And the fact that John Kerry would not support a federal marriage amendment prohibiting gay marriage, equates in our minds as someone 150 years ago saying I'm personally opposed to slavery, but if my neighbor wants to own one or two that's OK. We don't buy that."

--- Jerry Falwell (Nov 3, 2004)

I find the equating of the anti-gay movement to the abolitionist movement hysterical.

[Paul McEnery]

Found this (http://nom-de-grr.livejournal.com/51142.html)through Boingboing. The first reply is priceless.

[Roquefort Raider]

I'm sorry that he's dead. His passing probably brings pain to people close to him.

I'm even sorrier about all the crap he said and did when he was alive. His actions definitely brought pain to lots of people who had never done him any harm.

[Jack Zodiac]

Well I just got a similar topic closed at another board I visit because I referenced all the crap Falwell pulled in his life regarding Apartheid and the civil rights movement and was chasitzed for inferring from his past that he was racist. It was considered to be "libel" by the moderator.

Some people need some fucking dictionaries.

You're not allowed to speak the truth about anybody after they've died. It makes you a disrespectful asshole for not crying and praising all the sunshine and daisies the departed left in their wake instead of all the shit and homophobia and whatnot.

Libel? Jesus. I bet you burst some veins laughin' at that one.

[Sean Whitmore]

Well I just got a similar topic closed at another board I visit because I referenced all the crap Falwell pulled in his life regarding Apartheid and the civil rights movement and was chasitzed for inferring from his past that he was racist. It was considered to be "libel" by the moderator.

Some people need some fucking dictionaries.

Funnily enough, him accusing you of libel is actually more libelous than anything you said.


SEAN

[Gingold]

Christopher Hitchens is a vile and repulsive human being, but I liked what he had to say about Falwell:

http://www.slate.com/id/2166337/nav/tap2/

[Paul McEnery]

I know y'all want to read what Ann Coulter has to say (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20753).

[thespianphryne]

I know y'all want to read what Ann Coulter has to say (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20753).

The goggles...they do nothing!

I'm happy to say I stopped at "perfected Christian".


-Das

[Paul McEnery]

The goggles...they do nothing!

I'm happy to say I stopped at "perfected Christian".


-Das

Oh, there's so many class moments. But I'm going to stick with just the one:

(If you still think it isn't Christ whom liberals hate, remember: They hate Falwell even more than they hate me.)

[Jack Zodiac]

The goggles...they do nothing!

I'm happy to say I stopped at "perfected Christian".


-Das

Man. If I didn't know Coulter had written, I'd have to believe that was all satire, but nope, she's that fucking stupid.

[Mike Smash!]

Before we get off on another anti-Coulter track, we should consider whether this worthless, hateful harpy is really worth even talking about or getting angry over.

When we pull our hair out repeating all of the stupid things she says in the defense of people ranging from Joe McCarthy to Jerry Falwell, aren't we just giving her exactly what she wants?

[Paul McEnery]

Before we get off on another anti-Coulter track, we should consider whether this worthless, hateful harpy is really worth even talking about or getting angry over.

When we pull our hair out repeating all of the stupid things she says in the defense of people ranging from Joe McCarthy to Jerry Falwell, aren't we just giving her exactly what she wants?

Pull my hair out?

I'm laughing my arse off.

[Jack Zodiac]

I'm satisified for now. I only need to get in one "Ann Coulter's one dumb bitch" a week to keep my hungry liberal happy.

[Gingold]

I'm too busy hating Christ to bother with Ann.

[Iangould]

...where are you getting those figures?

Since Hitler can't really be held responsible for the war in Asia (since the Empire of Japan invaded China in 1933, the year Hitler became Chancellor and before the Tripartite Pact was established), and the invasion of Poland that began the war in Europe was a joint op with the USSR.

Even if you counted those things, the entirety of WWII and the Nazi Holocaust comes out to about 35 mil short of the figure you're quoting.

I'm pulling them out my arse of course.

Feel free to recalibrate.

[Sean Whitmore]

And when I die, if you didn't always agree with me, would you mind keeping it to yourself?

I absolutely promise. Can you do it tomorrow, please?


SEAN

[howyadoin]

Pull my hair out?

I'm laughing my arse off.At least you're not pulling your arse hair out.

[Jack Zodiac]

Take my word for it, not a problem for him. We uh... get waxed at the same place.

[Tony Bang]

Does anyone remember when Bob Dole broke down and cried at Nixon's funeral? I've always assumed this was to appeal to the voters and secure the Republican nomination. So here is the question, which candidate is gonna wept this go round, to grab the sympathy vote? I'm going with McCain, and I'm about 50/50 about Clinton doing the same.

[howyadoin]

Does anyone remember when Bob Dole broke down and cried at Nixon's funeral?Did he refer to himself in the third person while he was blubbering?

[Sean Whitmore]

Bob was only crying because dementia was kicking in and he thought the funeral was for him.


SEAN

[berk]

Oh, there's so many class moments. But I'm going to stick with just the one:(If you still think it isn't Christ whom liberals hate, remember: They hate Falwell even more than they hate me.) Do I detect a note of self-pity creeping into the Coulter's tone here? Now that would be funny.

[Sean Whitmore]

Do I detect a note of self-pity creeping into the Coulter's tone here? Now that would be funny.

Even though the whole spiel was complimentary to Falwell, it had the distinct ring of Anny saying, "I'm so much cooler than he was."

Like the Fonz giving a eulogy for Ritchie, if they were both psychotic cunts.


SEAN

[Winslow]

And why exactly is that? Is it a logical distinction, or an emotional one, again reflecting some tribalistic identification w/ him as a fellow Christian, albeit a pretty crappy example of one?

It's probably a bit tribalistic (He's ugly, but he's one of the family! . .and I'm not proud of that)

His harm is somewhat intangible. He actually failed at almost all of his initiatives.

His support of apartheid was more stupid than calculated evil (we can end it by lifting sanctions!)

And evil people tend to NOT repent or change. To his credit, he was commended by the NAACP for his turn around on racism.

I suppose that would sum up my reluctance.

[howyadoin]

Bob was only crying because dementia was kicking in and he thought the funeral was for him.Bob Dole really misses Bob Dole! Bob Dole loved Bob Dole!

[Suzanne]

I turned to Fox News Tuesday just for kicks, and I was truely surprised they didn't wear their black widow's veils, or sobbing uncontrollably ;)

[Chris Nowlin]

And why exactly is that? Is it a logical distinction, or an emotional one, again reflecting some tribalistic identification w/ him as a fellow Christian, albeit a pretty crappy example of one?

Oddly enough, that's the thing that drives me to the word "evil."

If he was the same person, but didn't claim to do everything in the name of Christianity and being a moral person, I probably wouldn't have even taken notice of him.

So it's tribal in the "You're claiming to be in my tribe, but clearly not. And you're nonetheless giving my tribe a bad name. Please die" sort of way.

In other news, Coulter is Coulter.

[Winslow]

Oddly enough, that's the thing that drives me to the word "evil."

If he was the same person, but didn't claim to do everything in the name of Christianity and being a moral person, I probably wouldn't have even taken notice of him.

So it's tribal in the "You're claiming to be in my tribe, but clearly not. And you're nonetheless giving my tribe a bad name. Please die" sort of way.

In other news, Coulter is Coulter.

Catholics have a better sense of the role of ex-communication for aberrant positions.

Falwell repented of many of the quotes people have posted in this thread once he was challenged on them. I suppose a cynic would say it was political expediency alone. I don't know.

I have no qualms with saying Coulter is evil. Ugh. I couldn't read that. She's a media troll. As an American, I'm ashamed she has a following.

[Spackling Compound]

It's probably a bit tribalistic (He's ugly, but he's one of the family! . .and I'm not proud of that)


That's the interesting thing, Catholics don't think of Falwell or his ilk as anywhere close to the family. In the 80's, Reagan realized this and just appointed an Ambassador to the Vatican because Catholics weren't responding to the MM.

I had a Catholic education and read Heavy Metal magazine in the 80's so I was already anti-Falwell. He did appear as a character in one of my homemade comics, however. He and the devil were in cahoots against Dracula.

I've said too much.

[Winslow]

He did appear as a character in one of my homemade comics, however. He and the devil were in cahoots against Dracula.

Awesome! Who won? (I'm thinking Jerry and the devil kicked Dracula's sorry ass)

[Spackling Compound]

Awesome! Who won? (I'm thinking Jerry and the devil kicked Dracula's sorry ass)

No, no....they both went back to Hell as Dracula was "undead" and proved that he could never die thus never be consigned to the netherworld ever. Neither Falwell or Dracula could ever have his soul because as long as he was "undead", his soul was trapped in his body.

And, to add to the awfulness, Dracula was joined by a mercenary to fight off Falwell and Satan. The mercenary was a Ted Nugent look alike...

[Winslow]

And, to add to the awfulness, Dracula was joined by a mercenary to fight off Falwell and Satan. The mercenary was a Ted Nugent look alike...

Awful? That's awesome comedy! (made me laugh)

[Spackling Compound]

Awful? That's awesome comedy! (made me laugh)

You and I are close to the same age. Maybe you remember just how freakin' awesome this image was back in the day....
http://www.rockcandyrecords.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/Nugent%20Weekend%20Warriors%20(1).jpg

Oh crap, now I've started a "Ted Nugent" bash thread...I can feel it in the air....

[Boldido]

Don't worry about it. As long as you keep posting on this thread, then I am greeted by the line: "Jerry Falwell is Dead" every time I log onto the forum and...well...seeing that makes me happy.

[LtMarvel]

Page 39 and...let me check...Jerry Falwell is still dead.

[Slam_Bradley]

Page 39 and...let me check...Jerry Falwell is still dead.


Three days or 40 pages and he's supposed to rise again.

[Boldido]

Page 39 and...let me check...Jerry Falwell is still dead.
http://www.pelczarski.com/max/art/day020_yay.jpg

Yay!!!!

[Mike Smash!]

You know, I think I'd prefer a zombie Falwell. He wouldn't be able to talk and I'd be allowed to shoot him.

[Merey]

You know, I think I'd prefer a zombie Falwell. He wouldn't be able to talk and I'd be allowed to shoot him.

Grave dancing isn't enough!? Now you want to target shoot his zombified corpse?


Hee!

[Mike Smash!]

Grave dancing isn't enough!? Now you want to target shoot his mummified corpse?If it's trying to bite me, sure I'll shoot him.

But unlike many scenes in zombie movies where someone is ambivalent about shooting a zombified friend, I wouldn't feel at all bad.

I didn't want the guy to die and I don't celebrate the death of anyone, but I'm sure as hell not going to pretend he was anything other than a hate-monger bigot who tried to force his beliefs on people when he was alive.

Alive or dead, he doesn't deserve our respect.

[Spackling Compound]

You know, I think I'd prefer a zombie Falwell. He wouldn't be able to talk and I'd be allowed to shoot him.

Or worse than a zombie....

http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/17548/2005081830533671674_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005081830533671674)

[Pinball]

I know y'all want to read what Ann Coulter has to say (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20753).
Nothing about Phelps's protest? Sad.

[Sean Whitmore]

Zombie Falwell would be darkly ironic. He would have to crave brains, which is something he never had much use for in life.


SEAN

[Loren]

Or worse than a zombie....

I think you mean Jerry Falwell: Winter Soldier.

[BlairH]

I know y'all want to read what Ann Coulter has to say.
How much of that piece was about Tinky Winky?

How very '90s of you Ann.

[Mike Smash!]

Or worse than a zombie....

http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/17548/2005081830533671674_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005081830533671674)Thanks for enlarging that. When it was small, I thought it was the Atom.

[Spackling Compound]

Thanks for enlarging that. When it was small, I thought it was the Atom.

God didn't make Atom and Steve....

Ughh...stretchin' it there.

[Calybos]

I love it when Ann opens her ignorant yap. It helps discredit the far-right crazies even further than Bush's insanity has.

[Leslie Lee III]

I'm glad he's in heaven now. The great Christopher Hitchens properly eulogizes him:

On Anderson Cooper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkAPaEMwyKU
On Hannity and Colmes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doKkOSMaTk4

[Toku King]

Who WAS this guy? Why is he so awful?

[rick]

Who WAS this guy? Why is he so awful?

He was every unpleasant and just plain nasty cliché about the Religious Right personified in the body of one man.

As far as we know he didn’t cheat on his wife, but that’s about it.

[Mike Smash!]

Who WAS this guy? Why is he so awful?How to sum up Jerry Falwell.

He was a television preacher that summed up the worst possible outcomes of organized religion. He was a greedy opportunist of the worst and a terrible bigot who during his career said hateful things about gays and lesbians and supported racial segregation and aparteid.

He claimed that global warming was a conspiracy devised by "Satan, liberals and the Weather Channel" and said that 9/11 was a consequence of American tolerating gays, secularism and feminism. He railed against a purple children's show character for being gay (as far as I can tell, it wasn't) and as his career progressed, he became less and less relevant and more and more embarassing to the very people who made him their leader from the 1970s-the late 1980s.

He was the very worst kind of hateful and intolerant fundamentalist fanatic and he was practically an archetype in himself.

For his more controversial remarks, click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Falwell#Controversial_remarks).

[BoosterBronze]

Who WAS this guy? Why is he so awful?

He used to post here, and start nasty threads trashin Bendis and calling for the return of the New Universe.

[rick]

How to sum up Jerry Falwell.

He was a television preacher that summed up the worst possible outcomes of organized religion. He was a greedy opportunist of the worst and a terrible bigot who during his career said hateful things about gays and lesbians and supported racial segregation and aparteid.

He claimed that global warming was a conspiracy devised by "Satan, liberals and the Weather Channel" and said that 9/11 was a consequence of American tolerating gays, secularism and feminism. He railed against a purple children's show character for being gay (as far as I can tell, it wasn't) and as his career progressed, he became less and less relevant and more and more embarassing to the very people who made him their leader from the 1970s-the late 1980s.

He was the very worst kind of hateful and intolerant fundamentalist fanatic and he was practically an archetype in himself.

For his more controversial remarks, click here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Falwell#Controversial_remarks).



Actually I'm pretty sure that it was someone who worked for Falwell who made the Tinky comments and that ol' Jer quickly distanced himself from the silliness.

Not that this one minor embarrassment makes up for decades of hypocrisy and hate.

[Mike Smash!]

Actually I'm pretty sure that it was someone who worked for Falwell who made the Tinky comments and that ol' Jer quickly distanced himself from the silliness.

Not that this one minor embarrassment makes up for decades of hypocrisy and hate.I just checked it and whether or not he made the initial comment, he backed it up when asked about it.

The immensely popular UK show is aimed at pre-school children but Falwell stated "he is purple - the gay pride color; and his antenna is shaped like a triangle - the gay-pride symbol." Apart from those characteristics Tinky Winky also carries a magic bag which Falwell said was a purse and added "role modelling the gay lifestyle is damaging to the moral lives of children."

[rick]

I just checked it and whether or not he made the initial comment, he backed it up when asked about it.


And here I was thinking that even he wasn't that stupid.

Obviously, my mistake.

[Jack Zodiac]

He used to post here, and start nasty threads trashin Bendis and calling for the return of the New Universe.

He also liked Liefeld's art. What a douche.

[Boldido]

He also liked Liefeld's art. What a douche.
And now he has been baned from the planet.