What defines (this Marvel) character thread

[sabongero]

Hi. I just thought I might start a thread here in the motivations that define different Marvel characters. I just wanted to see if most of the readers/audience view these Marvel characters the same way, similar in a way, or different from each other.

We can name the Marvel character. Then a brief sentence or detailed paragraph if you like on what defines that particular Marvel character.

Spider-Man: Obviously the majority will define that the tragedies in his life particularly the death of Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy definitely defines Spidey's character.

The Thing: It's his way of looking at bigger than life events. He sees this "bigger than life events" as typical average person. Also, his physical appearance can make ruin his good day (if he's reminded of it).

Cyclops: Jean Grey. I know he is now with Emma Frost, but his love for Jean is what defines his character.

I'll add some more. I just wanted to get this rolling.

[dingo]

Well looking at the three you listed, for me.


Spider-Man: It's all about responsibility. Life can give you lemons, but you should always take your responsibilities seriously. Doesn't mean you can't have fun, doesn't mean you can't enjoy the ride, but at the end of the day, you gotta do what you gotta do.

The Thing: Never, ever give up. Ever. No matter what crap life has thrown at him, and it has thrown a lot, he never gives up, and even keeps his sense of humour.

Cyclops: What character?*




* I kid**




** But only a bit.

[Roquefort Raider]

Spider-Man: Obviously the majority will define that the tragedies in his life particularly the death of Uncle Ben and Gwen Stacy definitely defines Spidey's character.

Uncle Ben's death was the catalyst, but I think Peter's character was already shaped by his deep sense of responsibility. From the start, Peter has been motivated by his altruism, despite the heavy cost his adventurous life entailed.

The Thing: It's his way of looking at bigger than life events. He sees this "bigger than life events" as typical average person. Also, his physical appearance can make ruin his good day (if he's reminded of it).

Agreed. Ben is the honest, reliable "average guy". Or so he sees himself... he's shown many times to be far from average!

Cyclops: Jean Grey. I know he is now with Emma Frost, but his love for Jean is what defines his character.

That one I disagree with. The love story between Scott and Jean was a good one, but it should have ended with Phoenix's death in uncanny X-men #137. After that landmark event, Scott went through all the stages of grieving and rebuilding his life, and it is a real pity that editorial decisions undid all that and allowed Jean to come back. His development was stopped, and he spent 20 years being a somewhat plain leader-type guy with self-image issues.

Scott's character was originally defined by his dangerous, barely-controlled power. From a very young age, he was keenly aware that in order not to hurt others he had to remain in control of himself at all times. At the same time, his being an orphan "adopted" into Xavier's school made him an X-man through and through. He became the natural leader of the mutants there because unlike most other X-men, Scott did not have any life outside the school and could devote his life to it. He even refused to follow Jean when she and the other original members left to make room for the new X-Men.

I don't know if the loss of his power will be permanent (hah!!! as if "permanent" had any meaning in comics!) but it will be nice to see Scott's character evolve a little in the coming months because of it.

[DannyV_El_Acme]

Daredevil: Service to the community and standing up for the little man. Ever since he was a child, Matt Murdock's been aware of how big people can trample those less fortunate underfoot. This is a lesson he learned most from his father: he saw what desperation drove his father to do and how far bad people can go to take advantage of that. That's why he's a defense lawyer in New York's poorest neighborhood and why he's the Man Without Fear.

Wolverine: Man vs. animal, that's always been Wolverine's dilemma. Is he a man with animal instincts, or an animal trying to be human? Can he accept fully what he is, or must he always fight his most primordial nature?

Deadpool: Jif Peanut Butter, the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Special and Tom & Jerry marathons.

As for the past ones, I pretty much agree tragedy is what drives Spider-Man. The guy really has just about the roughest life one could have.

Ben Grimm is driven by friendship: all his insecurities and all his swagger and attitude become secondary when his friends and family are at stake. I see Ben as the(no pun intended) rock that serves as the foundation for the Fantastic Four. More than any other character in the team, Ben (IMHO) IS the Fantastic Four.

Cyclops is driven by Xavier's dream, to the point that all his life is secondary to it. The reason he has so many complexes and emotional traumas is because he's basically been an emotional amputee obsessed in pursuit of Xavier's dream. Hell, he's more committed to it than Xavier is!

[sabongero]

dingo, roquefort, dannyv thanks for your input here. I really liked the insights you have provided here. I liked learning things about these comic book characters as I recently have just re-started really just getting back into them.

Perhaps there can be more that can post and share here as well.

Since there has been male characters, I am curious about the following female characters. Can someone or perhaps you three can share your insights into them. Thanks.

Ms. Marvel
Emma Frost
Kitty Pryde
Spider Woman (New Avengers)
Maria Hill of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Thanks.

[Monty_Cristo]

dingo, roquefort, dannyv thanks for your input here. I really liked the insights you have provided here. I liked learning things about these comic book characters as I recently have just re-started really just getting back into them.

Perhaps there can be more that can post and share here as well.

Since there has been male characters, I am curious about the following female characters. Can someone or perhaps you three can share your insights into them. Thanks.

Ms. Marvel
Emma Frost
Kitty Pryde
Spider Woman (New Avengers)
Maria Hill of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Thanks.


Ms. Marvel - is motivated by her own insecurities and her father's misogyny. or, looked at another way, she truly wants to be the best of the best.

Emma Frost - is motivated by the guilt over the death of her original students. she's also motivated by a need to survive.

Maria Hill - is motivated by a lust for power and, perhaps, a napolean complex.
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Irredeemable Ant-Man - motivated by libido and boredom.

[Omega Alpha]

Spider-Man is driven by the sense of responsibility, his need to help the others and do the right thing. Uncle Ben's death by someone whom he could have stopped was the catalyst to everything, and even more than Gwen's death, the definying point of his life.

Cyclops i think is definited by his childhood and what happened with him when he was a kid: he was an orphan (or thought so) and everyone he cared about either died or was taken away from him by Sinister, and because of that and his destructive powers, he had no chance of being anything in life. So he grabbed Xavier's dream and the life as an X-man because it was his one shot of being something or even surviving, and ended up becoming THE X-man, to the point everything in his life is secondary, and any writer who tries to put him away from the X-men by his own choice (like CC in the 80's or Davis in the 90's) is always writing him out of character. His difficulties in becoming close and trusting people are because everyone was taken away from him as a kid, and even as an adult he had to see Nathan, Alex, Prof X, Jean (several times), etc, all "dying" or just being sent to the future or something.

Emma Frost is driven by his guilt over the death of the Hellions, the thing that led to redemption and which is always coming back to haunt her, and by her deep insecurities and sense of inferiority, which is why she often acts arrogant and superior and puts the "hot cold bitch" facade to drive people away. And when she doesn't drive the person away (which is rare), like with Scott, she gets even more insecure and even somewhat paranoid, not because she doesn't think he doesn't love her, but because she doesn't deserve to be loved by anyone, because of the things she did and to her inferiority complex.

[Deus ex Chris]

Maria Hill - is motivated by a lust for power and, perhaps, a napolean complex.
We know this not to be true. She handed control of SHIELD over to Iron Man because she felt like she shouldn't be in charge. She's a bitch but not a power-hungry one.

[Monty_Cristo]

We know this not to be true. She handed control of SHIELD over to Iron Man because she felt like she shouldn't be in charge. She's a bitch but not a power-hungry one.

or maybe she turned it over to Iron Man because she has a thing for him. and maybe now she's realized that this was a mistake because Tony's a manwhore. you don't have to be the recognized leader to hold power (ask Karla Sofen).

[Deus ex Chris]

or maybe she turned it over to Iron Man because she has a thing for him. and maybe now she's realized that this was a mistake because Tony's a manwhore. you don't have to be the recognized leader to hold power (ask Karla Sofen).
Well, if you want to look at from a misogynist's standpoint, I guess you could be right. However, there's no evidence to really back it up. All we have is what she told Tony, which made everything she'd done up to that point make complete sense.

[SKJAM!]

What defines Maria Hill, in my opinion, is "not Nick Fury."

From all we've been told in the comics themselves, Sub-Director Hill was chosen for the job of SHIELD Director specifically because she didn't share any of Fury's friends, habits, taste in women or cozy relationships with free agents. And I'm betting that she was under orders not to follow in Fury's footsteps, or to look too closely at what certain parts of SHIELD were up to.

Add the stress of being a woman taking what many of the older agents would see as a man's job, and you have a recipe for an overcontrolling, strike first management style. Hill's imperiousness didn't sit well with the costumed crusaders she interacted with, and their "up yours" reactions only hardened her attitudes about these loose cannons. She realized she was weak at managerial skills, but wanted others to bend to her authority rather than loosen her grip.

And then came Civil War. Tony showed he had both the ruthlessness and management skills to theoretically do well at SHIELD, and turned his charm on Hill. She suggested he go for the Director job, (which was probably his plan all along), but now finds herself stuck with Tony's other, more jerk side in charge. If anything, he's been giving his super-buddies the key to the candy store as far as Hill is concerned.

[sabongero]

Thanks for the input everybody.

Your discussion on what defines Maria Hill has me curious. I just purchased New Avengers 1 - 27 to read up on her.

It's just amazing what I've missed in like 15 to 20 years in Marvel comics.

Can someone comment on what defines the Silver Surver and what defines Thanos ? It is very much appreciated. You guys are the best.

[Monty_Cristo]

Well, if you want to look at from a misogynist's standpoint, I guess you could be right. However, there's no evidence to really back it up. All we have is what she told Tony, which made everything she'd done up to that point make complete sense.

wow, didn't take you long to get personal. and, no, what she said to Tony didn't make complete sense out of her previous actions. she slaughtered a bunch of people in the Savage Land to cover her tracks. she turned on Captain America before he had even given an answer on the registration issue.

[Deus ex Chris]

wow, didn't take you long to get personal. and, no, what she said to Tony didn't make complete sense out of her previous actions.
I was only teasing. I guess I should have emoted. :p Better? ;)
she slaughtered a bunch of people in the Savage Land to cover her tracks. she turned on Captain America before he had even given an answer on the registration issue.
How does that make her power-hungry?

[overcomebyfumes]

Can someone comment on what defines the Silver Surver and what defines Thanos ? It is very much appreciated. You guys are the best.

Silver Surfer is defined by his poor career choices. His high school guidence councilor should have told him that "Herald of Galactus" is a bad choice for someone relentlessly and endlessly whine... pondering the implications and the consequences of his actions.

Thanos is the ultimate bad-ass, who nonetheless never seems to actually win. Later on, he seems to come to terms with the fact he's a loser, and he's actually alright with it for a while. Fell in love with the personification of an abstract concept, and lord knows that that's never a good thing. I've done it once or twice, and, wooo...

pax.

[Captain Mobra]

You're trying to marginalize some amazingly complicated characters in a paragraph or two. I do love the effort of recognizing what some characters struggles, traits, beliefs, hopes, and motivations are, but it's hard to do it on one forum one character at a time in such a complicated and defined multiverse.

[mattx110]

daredevil: make daddy proud, clean up his city
spiderman:make uncle ben proud, stand up and fight just because he can
nick fury:shoot them fascist bastards

maria hill: impulsive go-between for all these crazy capes, a seat-warmer politician who thinks she's the voice of humanity who gets to do what normal people can't to the capes, probably struggles with the responsibility she craves, also sees tony as the her she wants to be, he's a human who works with super-people and commands their respect

the thing: make his old neighborhood proud, bit of a thrill/glory-seeker that's tempered by his morality/insecurity
Ms. Marvel: really insecure, practically willed herself to have powers to prove herself a hero

Emma Frost: there's a nice girl in there somewhere but she's too fake to let it out, probably sees anyone who lies to themselves as inferior, but can only sometimes realize the irony
Kitty Pryde: wants people to look back on her as someone who saw the big picture and helped the world along, she's the anti-magneto

Spider Woman: wants a job where she isn't in constant fear of being betrayed, but kinda turned on by the danger of that world
silver surfer: wants to suffer because he was given infinite power to spare his world, and was never brave enough to use it to take it back and destroy his oppressor

thanos: just likes playing with forces larger than himself, a child of the universe who never gets any love
wolverine: he likes killing, but he loves it when he can feel justified killing, loves to be grounded and humanized by responsibility so he finds a wife, adopts a kid, and joins the x-men as a father figure even though his life keeps getting ruined again and again

cyclops: knows he'd never go too far and can control his self-loathing but nobody else really believes him, sliding scale of sanity that makes him extremely withheld and uptight, relationships with telepaths let him explore these feelings without having to build up the courage or open up enough to actually tell anyone

deadpool: wants to feel justified but is just an idiot, sees himself in everyone he meets and hates anyone who would make the same decisions he made in his past

edit: captainmobra, i either schooled you, or proved you right.;)

[Buckward]

kinda poetic

thanos: just likes playing with forces larger than himself, a child of the universe who never gets any love

[mattx110]

kinda poetic

i've got 20 backup stories in case i ever freelance for marvel:D
oddly enough, not much for thanos.
he's had some pretty defining stories that unmade and remade the universe, i can't compete with that.
"it's a quiet story about unrequited love where thanos battles and destroys the entire marvel universe" that's not fair to writers coming later at all.

[Zombienorthstar]

Cyclops: How can you protect people when you can't even look them in the eye? Sums up his emotional detachment, his prick attitude, his tendency to run from an emotional situation.

[sabongero]

Iron Man: His defining moment is that he is still an alcoholic and just abstains from drinking. At least trying hard to. And in the recent series of Marvel's Civil War, he is defined that he does not mind being the villain as long as what he is doing will keep the world safer.

Ultron: He is defined by his getting love from his father, Dr. Hank Pym. Now that ultron is in the guise of a woman with startling similariities to Janet Van Dyne, he is using this to get the "love" from his father.

The Watcher: Basically he is defined as Marvel's "peeping tom" role. I wonder if he uses binoculars.

[Canemacar]

Spider-man: "With great power comes great responsibility". He's an average guy who puts up with all kinds of tradgedies and injustices because he still wants to do the right thing even at great personal cost.

Cap A: He stands as an ideal for everyone else to aspire to. He's not relatable; he's what you *want* to be, not what you are.

Cyclops: Not much apart from some abandonment and self-control issues. He really depends on the characters around him to give him any real drive or motivation.

Wolverine: Back in the day he was all about maintaining his right to call himself a man instead of becoming the animal Weapon X had tried to make him into. These days there's not much besides saying bub and cutting folks.

Storm: She's the Mary-Sue of Mary-Sues.

Dr. Doom: A man who does want to help make the world a better place, but his pathological need to satisfy his ego has him obssessing over a rival instead of putting his talents to good use.

[Papa Moai]

Spider-man: "With great power comes great responsibility". He's an average guy who puts up with all kinds of tradgedies and injustices because he still wants to do the right thing even at great personal cost.

Cyclops: Not much apart from some abandonment and self-control issues. He really depends on the characters around him to give him any real drive or motivation.
The Spider-Man one really fits Cyclops as well. They're both fairly regular, although kind of nerdy, guys, who have been given the chance to make a difference. And they both try desperately to live up to their often overwhelming responsibilities.

[sabongero]

Daredevil pre-Frank Miller and Daredevil post Frank-Miller have very different defining moments. I am not sure about pre-Frank Miller. But Daredevil was defined during the Frank Miller era as attaining the greatest of heights by going through the lowest of depths. He hit rock-bottom and got back up again.

Now how about the Daredevil Brian Bendis era. What defined him on Bendis's run. And in the Brubaker run, I think what will define Daredevil is ... we shall see.

Personally I think that since the inception of the character up to the most recent Brubaker issues...Daredevil is defined as being a blind superhero, yet able to have smoking sexy model-type girlfriends. Now for a blind man, that is a really defining moment.

[cyclops2500]

Cyclops:: He's driven by a need to exert control, and a feeling that he is a passenger in his own life. Everything in his life is thrust at him instead of him taking possession of it. Basically orphaned by aliens, an uncontrollable destructive power that requires he look away. Even the X-Men. He was chosen by Xavier, to lead, to embody the dream, specifically because he was the most dangerous member of the team. Not the most powerful, but certainly the uncontrolled nature of his power made him the most dangerous by far. I think even Whedon got this wrong. Xavier chose him as the face of the dream to show everyone that even the mutant who could not control his powers could still be a productive person. Once in the position to lead, any joy at his innate leadership abilities was dwarfed by the responsibility thrust upon him. The only thing he feels on even keel with is his relationships, and part of this comes from his choices. Jean and Emma are kinda flip sides of the same coin. Power and danger wrapped up in a beautiful wrapper. The nature of their abilities make them much more powerful than him, but neither can truly match his combination of power and ability.

[cyclops2500]

Spider-Man: Anyone interested in what drives Spider-Man needs to read Jim Krueger's Earth-X special. It is the best deconstruction I've seen.

[cyclops2500]

Hank Pym: A guy ruled by the idea that he's not good enough for anything. All the growing and shrinking doesn't make him feel any better or more capable than the other scientist heroes.

[Tim OSullivan]

Great thread!

Ms. Marvel - I see Carol motivated by an overwhelming sense of DUTY.
Maybe I'm putting too much into her military background, but I'm seeing her recent efforts as a way to concretely improve the world she lives in.

She-Hulk - Most interesting, as she seems to be someone with a sense of responsibility, yet she almost seems hedonistic in her actions. It will be interesting to see how her character develops during WW Hulk!

[sabongero]

Hawkeye: He is defined by being a jerk ? Why ? Unfortunately, I only know Hawkeye from the West Coast Avengers storyline from issues 1 to 12 of that run. Then I lost interest in comic books around that time.

I read in wikipedia that his wife Bobbi (Mockingbird) died later in the series. Could that be the reason for him becoming a jerk-type of character as said by a lot of internet posters ?

[StoneGold]

Hawkeye: He is defined by being a jerk ? Why ? Unfortunately, I only know Hawkeye from the West Coast Avengers storyline from issues 1 to 12 of that run. Then I lost interest in comic books around that time.

I read in wikipedia that his wife Bobbi (Mockingbird) died later in the series. Could that be the reason for him becoming a jerk-type of character as said by a lot of internet posters ?

Nope, he was a jerk from the minute he hog tied Jarvis. His whole purpose in life was to be a burr in Cap's side.

[sabongero]

Nope, he was a jerk from the minute he hog tied Jarvis. His whole purpose in life was to be a burr in Cap's side.

That's interesting I did not know that. It states that Hawkeye was introduced in the Marvel universe as a villain. I guess he is what you would call the original (Thunderbolt) reformed villain.

[sabongero]

Spider-Man: No matter what, Spidey keeps fighting on. He is a biochemist and not just a generic good guy (yes he is a scientist). Spidey's characterization requires smart aleck remarks during battle, scientific insights, and humanity. The snappy banter is what makes Spidey very interesting as a character and one of his definitive traits. He has great comic timing along with one-liners and nutty observations.

As with many other heroes, Spider is defined by the tragic deaths of people close to him in his life.

He has supporting characters that are well defined and boasts one of the most colorful rogues galleries in any comic book universe.

[Guybrush]

Cyclops: Jean Grey. I know he is now with Emma Frost, but his love for Jean is what defines his character.

Didn't know Cyclops were the male version of Gwen Stacy. But then again I don't really read any of X-books.

[Papa Moai]

Didn't know Cyclops were the male version of Gwen Stacy. But then again I don't really read any of X-books.I see Jean Grey as X-Men's Gwen Stacy. She's someone who became a classic character due to her memorable, tragic death. And in my opinion she, like Gwen, works better as a dead martyr whose memory haunts the other characters.

[sabongero]

The Thing: In his current incarnation, he is defined by his playing and love of Poker. Okay let's be serious. He is definitely the average Joe when it comes to how he views things in the extraordinary world of superhero SUPERNESS. He brings a down to earth type of guy viewpoint in how he sees these extraordinary activities.

[Trey]

Good comments from everyone.

Too me the Wolverine, Cyclops, Jean Grey triangle is the essence of the Marvel universe. Its the lynchpin of all other more "adult" stories where relationships among the heroes are just as important as fighting the villain of the month.

We all have aspects of Wolverine and the other side of the coin Cyclops to our personalities (especially our insecurities and cynicism). And at the end of the day what do we all want? why are we here? We want to be with Jean. And its tragic that for most of us we can't be with Jean.

[sabongero]

Can someone add info on Elektra, Echo, and Daredevil.

Also, how about the Kingpin, Wilson Fisk.

[DannyV_El_Acme]

or maybe she turned it over to Iron Man because she has a thing for him. and maybe now she's realized that this was a mistake because Tony's a manwhore. you don't have to be the recognized leader to hold power (ask Karla Sofen).

Third theory: she's waiting for the ball to come down on Tony to take DEFINITIVE control of SHIELD. The fact is that, during CW, SHIELD was in tatters. After years of(relative) stability under Fury, his resignation plus the fighting over the SHRA really put serious stress on SHIELD functioning. Perhaps Hill ceded the Director's chair to Tony cause a)he could use his resources and knowledge of costumed adventurers to bring stability to the superhuman community as a whole and b)after doing so, wait for the inevitable backlash to take Tony out of the picture and Hill gain control of a stable SHIELD with more leverage on the superhuman community than ever before.

[sabongero]

Drax: He is defined by his reason for being. And that is to destroy Thanos.

Galactus: He is defined by his "hunger". He is known as the world devourer. He is also known for his heralds to find suitable planets for him to nourish himself.

[sabongero]

Bump up. Anyone care to add ? Like for example: Moon Knight, Wonder Man, etc.

[Monty_Cristo]

That's interesting I did not know that. It states that Hawkeye was introduced in the Marvel universe as a villain. I guess he is what you would call the original (Thunderbolt) reformed villain.

he wasn't a villain; just misled. there was no reformation involved. the first reformed villain Avenger was Swordsman, i think.

[brundlefly]

Also, how about the Kingpin, Wilson Fisk.

Control freak in a big way, along with a huge ego and superiority complex. Obsessed with being king of the mountain (NYC underworld and beyond) and defending that position against anyone who threatens him. Also derives great satisfaction from outwitting/manipulating his foes (such as DD or Spidey, for example) and making their lives utterly miserable, often preferring to leave them alive to suffer instead of killing them.

[Monty_Cristo]

Control freak in a big way, along with a huge ego and superiority complex. Obsessed with being king of the mountain (NYC underworld and beyond) and defending that position against anyone who threatens him. Also derives great satisfaction from outwitting/manipulating his foes (such as DD or Spidey, for example) and making their lives utterly miserable, often preferring to leave them alive to suffer instead of killing them.

Fisk embodies his insecurities. he's still that poor uneducated fat kid hidden within the form of a wealthy, pseudo-refined, solid criminal. he has to be on top but anything else would make him another victim.

[brundlefly]

Fisk embodies his insecurities. he's still that poor uneducated fat kid hidden within the form of a wealthy, pseudo-refined, solid criminal. he has to be on top but anything else would make him another victim.

A-yup. Hence the obsession with control and the superiority complex, as well as the great satisfaction in outmaneuvering people who think they're smarter than he is (like Stark most recently).

[tangentman]

dingo, roquefort, dannyv thanks for your input here. I really liked the insights you have provided here. I liked learning things about these comic book characters as I recently have just re-started really just getting back into them.

Perhaps there can be more that can post and share here as well.

Since there has been male characters, I am curious about the following female characters. Can someone or perhaps you three can share your insights into them. Thanks.

I'll see how I can help!

Ms. Marvel

Carol wants to live life on her own terms. She has goals and dreams that she wants to meet, and she doesn't want to limit herself to other people's notions of what she can accomplish. In early adulthood, that meant not settling for her father's sexist concepts of "womanhood". In the last year or two, she hasn't wanted to settle for riding her Avenger's status--she wants a reputation in her own right as a hero.


Emma Frost

Emma hides her vulnerability behind a veneer of jaded sophistication and materialism. Like the diamond she emulates, she's very multi-faceted and resilient. However, she's also a very flawed person. At the moment, that flaw is her protectiveness toward her students--and her love for Scott.

Kitty Pryde

Like many X-Men before her, Kitty has found a family in the X-Men. She feels a profound need to keep her family safe. A major theme for her has been assuming very adult responsibilities far beyond her years.


Spider Woman (New Avengers)

Jessica Drew came into our world as an outsider. Most people she met rejected her and/or feared her. She struggled to find her path and forge a life for herself for many years. As a necessity, Jessica became very "lone wolf" in her attitudes. Her current responsibilities as an Avenger challenge these old beliefs. She's torn between self-preservation and responsibility to a team (the Avengers).


Maria Hill of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Maria's bitchery comes from the desire to see heroes be accountable for their actions and work inside the law, rather than outside or above it.

[AdamYJ]

Hawkeye is defined by a constant struggle for self-improvement. The way Fabian Nicieza said it was that he his life was "chicken sh!t that he's trying to turn into chicken salad". He's had it hard his whole life and his personality sometimes complicates matters, but he keeps trying to make his own life worth a damn.

A lot of characters are defined by their contradictions as much as anything. For example, Jubilee is pretty much defined by a desire for a home and family, but that's countered by all these layers of "emotional armor" that she hides behind. She lost everything and ended up becoming an awesome survivor and the ultimate teenage runaway. Quick, resourceful, independent, distrusting of authority and with an uncanny ability to go through the hardest things life offered with a smirk on her face and a quip on her lips. Yet, she was also dreadfully lonely and just wanted to belong somewhere, but not enough to really let anyone see how scared and lonely she could get. She wanted to make a connection with someone, but without really letting her guard down. Though, the current version will likely be more of a coming-of-age thing as she tries to become a grown-up without losing some of who she was in the process.

[sabongero]

Moon Knight - This character was created by Doug Moench, who later on penned Batman. But in the 70s MK was considered a Batman rip-off, just like Daredevil was in the 60s and 70s. But MK grew to his own character. But I am still not sure what is his character supposed to be like. Does anyone know ?

[sabongero]

Captain America (Bucky Barnes) - He's a more World War 2 type of Captain America. He carries guns and is willing to kill people. He's a more on the edge type of character.

[Guest_1001]

Ultimately, I think Bucky is trying to live up the standard that Cap set, to the best of his own ability. He essentially knows he isn't Steve Rogers but he's okay with that because nobody can be Steve Rogers. Because of Buck's WW2 experiences, Bucky knows about fighting the good fight and how high the cost can be if he doesn't because it's also a soldier's mentality that fuels Bucky. He fights for himself and his country and the ideals of America because that's what a soldier would do.

[Don't pee in the (Dead)pool]

Moon Knight - This character was created by Doug Moench, who later on penned Batman. But in the 70s MK was considered a Batman rip-off, just like Daredevil was in the 60s and 70s. But MK grew to his own character. But I am still not sure what is his character supposed to be like. Does anyone know ?

Nobody has really seemed to know what to do with Moon Knight. At first, he was a playboy crime-fighter with lots of fancy toys and a cool jet hence the accusations of Batman plagiarism. He was then ret-conned (ugly word!) into an ex-mercenary who was endowed with the powers of the Egyptian moon-god Khonshu which gave him greater strength and durability. His mission was to act as Khonshu's agent of retribution on Earth. The Egyptian mythology was kept to a minimum though, except for the fact that Moon Knight had an Ankh (Egyptian symbol meaning light or life) on his chest, not the crescent moon he has now.
In his latest incarnation, it appears that either Khonshu is a blood-thirsty and cruel god or Marc Spector is nuttier than squirrel shit... I prefer it this way!!! On a side note, it's being implied Batman's going insane too. Have things come full-circle and now Batman is plagiarising Moon Knight? Hmmm...