I'm so proud of Marvel

[Tony Bang]

I know there are already a ton of threads about the crude sexual content that is forced into today's superhero comics, but this needed to be ridiculed.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/TonyBang/6818_press10-001.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/TonyBang/6818_press03-001.jpg

How much will this sale I wonder? How lonely do you have to be to buy one of these?

EDIT: Hey could one of the mods take out the word Comics in the title, since I guess this isn't the comics department fault.

[Michael P]

Wow. That manages to be demeaning to women from two directions at once.

[Gingold]

They need to do a whole series. MJ making Peter's breakfast, MJ rubbing Peter's back on after a long day of work, MJ ironing his costume...

[Jack Zodiac]

Wow. That manages to be demeaning to women from two directions at once.

That's what my first ex-girlfriend said... Weird.

Still, how hilarious would that comic be- surprise sodomy while Spider-Man's wife's doing his laundry for him? Dave Sim could write it!

[Mike Smash!]

She really ought to get Aunt May to patch up those jeans for her.

[Jack Zodiac]

My Spidey-sense is tingling... in my pants?

Also, there's probably a "pearl necklace" joke to be made here, too.

[Jeff Brady]

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/large/6818.jpg

Go here for a 360-degree quicktime pic:

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=6818

Because you didn't quite feel dirty enough.

[mgs]

My Spidey-sense is tingling... in my pants?

Also, there's probably a "pearl necklace" joke to be made here, too.

LOL! :) Yikes! that is so blatantly sexual it had to be intentional. Wonder why no one caught/stopped it?

[Chris Nowlin]

Thanks Jeff!

I notice it's sold out there, too.

Not that I was thinking of buying such a thing...

[Chris Nowlin]

LOL! :) Yikes! that is so blatantly sexual it had to be intentional. Wonder why no one caught/stopped it?

I'm guessing the answer involes the following symbol:

$

Men like statues of women:
-with cleavage
-tight butts and torn jeans
-doing women's work

I like the suggestion that this is the beginning of a series. Dishwashing in underwear can be next.

Or topless sewing.

[Agent Helix]

Buying statues like these should be grounds for chemical castration.

[Gingold]

Marvel has no respect for its characters anymore! I mean, really. Since when is MJ's hair brown? I'm only going to buy two of these unless they fix that mistake.

[Joe Rice]

The thing about these statues is that you know the guys that buy them stick them up their anus while masturbating.

[howyadoin]

She needs a bigger ass.

Nice job on the face, though. Even if it is framed with brown hair.

[darkkeeperjr]

I bet there would be a different tune sung if it was life size and had a programable voice chip.

[Chris Nowlin]

The thing about these statues is that you know the guys that buy them stick them up their anus while masturbating.

That's just silly.

That would ruin the collector's value.

She needs a bigger ass.


Are you talking about resembling MJ, or being sexier?

Because some people like an unrealistically tight butt.

[Sanagi]

On top of everything else, it's ugly, which would seem to defeat the point.

[howyadoin]

Are you talking about resembling MJ, or being sexier?

Because some people like an unrealistically tight butt.I'm talking abut having an ass that looks female.

As opposed to this:

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/jpg/6818_press03-001.jpg

[Chris Nowlin]

On top of everything else, it's ugly, which would seem to defeat the point.

One man's ugly...

It's just hard to tell. Remember, people find this sexy:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o1/CocaC0la99/feral.jpg

[gary bolt]

The thing about these statues is that you know the guys that buy them stick them up their anus while masturbating.

That's just silly.

That would ruin the collector's value.

The purists still stick them up their anus but they leave them in their original packaging.

[Winslow]

The purists still stick them up their anus but they leave them in their original packaging.

No WE don't!




Um . . er . . . uh . . .

[Ghost]

On top of everything else, it's ugly, which would seem to defeat the point.

I'm with Sanagi on this one. I don't really mind blatantly sexist figurines, but at least makes them actually attractive.

[Donald M.]

yeahmmmmmmmmm

Edit: Uh, nevermind.

I have no comments to make on the ugly stupid-looking sexist figurine, I just was having trouble posting anything for a while and it only just now finally started working for me again.

Why I chose this thread for a test post I couldn't tell you.

[Your Imaginary Pal]

yeah cheesecake art.
what a completely new and horrid concept.

remember guys, if we didn't have Betty Paige in WWII we wouldn't have won the war.

[Donald M.]

yeah cheesecake art.
what a completely new and horrid concept.

remember guys, if we didn't have Betty Paige in WWII we wouldn't have won the war.

Mein Furher!

*Nazi salute*


That's my subtle way of pointing out that Betty Page's modeling career started a few years after WWII.

[Jeff Brady]

I like the suggestion that this is the beginning of a series. Dishwashing in underwear can be next.

In the kitchen, barefoot & pregnant.

[Sanagi]

One man's ugly...

It's just hard to tell. Remember, people find this sexy:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o1/CocaC0la99/feral.jpg
I never had improper thoughts about Feral.

I was loyal to Wolfsbane.

[Winslow]

yeah cheesecake art.
what a completely new and horrid concept.

remember guys, if we didn't have Betty Paige in WWII we wouldn't have won the war.

Cheesecake art is one of my guilty pleasures. WW2 nose art is pretty fun to look at (and had it's time and place)

Having acknowledged that, the statue seems pretty silly. Although I hold no rage against it. If it was marketed towards my kid, maybe I would. But I haven't seen it except on the 'net.

[Your Imaginary Pal]

Mein Furher!

*Nazi salute*


That's my subtle way of pointing out that Betty Page's modeling career started a few years after WWII.

well whats's a few years give or take
before there was betty there was still the cheesecake.
just saying it's nothing new.

[Michael P]

One man's ugly...

It's just hard to tell. Remember, people find this sexy:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o1/CocaC0la99/feral.jpg

Furries don't count as people.

[Chris Nowlin]

Furries don't count as people.

You are right. My statement was poorly phrased

[Jeff Brady]

well whats's a few years give or take
before there was betty there was still the cheesecake.
just saying it's nothing new.

Yes, and cheesecake of underage girls is just SOOOOOOOOOOOO appropriate.

Start objectifying women when they're young, so they don't care when they're discriminated against when they're older.

[Chris Nowlin]

Yes, and cheesecake of underage girls is just SOOOOOOOOOOOO appropriate.

Who's underage?

[Winslow]

Who's underage?

You Coke.

Stop looking at that statue, you'll go blind.

(I thought MJ was in her mid-20's also, but I don't read the title)

[Jack Zodiac]

Betty Cooper. That bitch has been seventeen for sixty-somethin' years.

[Jeff Brady]

Who's underage?

Is that not the Ultimate Spiderman MJ?

[Michael P]

Is that not the Ultimate Spiderman MJ?

Not according to the very link you posted.

[howyadoin]

Is that not the Ultimate Spiderman MJ?It doesn't look much like her. And I don't see the word "ultimate" anywhere on the page you linked to.

[howyadoin]

Not according to the very link you posted.http://www.jipemania.com/coke/1940/photos/1947-COCA-COLA-BOTTLE.jpg

[Your Imaginary Pal]

seems very Romita inspired.
I didn't connect it to the Ultimate MJ.

but it's not like teen pop stars aren't popping out of their tops.

it's the society we live in. sex sells, taboo sells even better.

[Chris Nowlin]

Is that not the Ultimate Spiderman MJ?

He's a damn lucky kid if his high school girlfriend is already doing his laundry.

I guess I had college girls with nice cleavage doing my laundry, but they insisted I watch and at least try to learn how to do it for myself.

"You throw it all in here and then push the button that says start".
"Show me once more and I'll try next week."

http://www.jipemania.com/coke/1940/photos/1947-COCA-COLA-BOTTLE.jpg

That's beautiful.

[mgs]

-with cleavage


c&c, I like how someone 'directed' her to not look the viewer in the eyes in the head on view. just to let you stare at the boobage without guilt. ;)

[Chris Nowlin]

c&c, I like how someone 'directed' her to not look the viewer in the eyes in the head on view. just to let you stare at the boobage without guilt. ;)

What is this word, guilt?:confused:

[Captain_Video]

The original version of the statue had her feet webbed to the floor in makeshift manacles, there was to be an add on of Spidey sitting on the couch hurling double entendres ( voice chip ).

"My spidey sense is tingling".

"Webb-ed bliss"

"Face it Tiger, you just hit the jackpot"

The M.J doll just giggles and says "I wuv you Tiger".

It is clearly cheesecake, clearly not an empowering image of femaledom, but, its not that bad, I can't think of anyone who would really want that in their house, but its not "that" offensive, if taken in an old fashioned ironic sort of a way.

Besides its either M.J or Aunt May doing his laundry, no way can Peter do it himself, he can barely figure out what costume to wear these days, how could he ever hope to wash it too ?

[rick]

Geez gang, getting a bit too worked up about a piece of cheesecake aren't you?

[Agent Helix]

It's an ugly, creepy looking statuette of a fictional female character in a servile pose.

Yes, if you buy this, I'm going to justifiably think less of you.

Just like if you buy those weird busts of Supergirl where she's in "look at my tits!" poses. Seriously, who willingly displays these things in their homes? Who has an place to put something like this where it doesn't just look tacky and weird?

[Chris Nowlin]

Geez gang, getting a bit too worked up about a piece of cheesecake aren't you?

Haven't noticed anybody get worked up yet.

I just see making fun of a silly statue.

[Athena Bast]

It's an ugly, creepy looking statuette of a fictional female character in a servile pose.

Yes, if you buy this, I'm going to justifiably think less of you.

Just like if you buy those weird busts of Supergirl where she's in "look at my tits!" poses. Seriously, who willingly displays these things in their homes? Who has an place to put something like this where it doesn't just look tacky and weird?

I have a Dorothy from the Twisted Wizard of Oz that I proudly display and that's 10 times worse than that statue.

http://www.spawn.com/toys/horror/monsters2/dorothy/images/monsters2_dorothy_photo_03_dp.jpg

[Chris Nowlin]

I have a Dorothy from the Twisted Wizard of Oz that I proudly display and that's 10 times worse than that statue.

For reasons I'm not entirely clear on, that's perfectly acceptable because you're a female.

Sexist times, I guess.

[Jeff Brady]

Not according to the very link you posted.

Well, I don't exactly see "Spiderman Loves Mary Jane" or "MJ 616" either. I withdraw my "underage" comment.

[Athena Bast]

For reasons I'm not entirely clear on, that's perfectly acceptable because you're a female.

Sexist times, I guess.

What does it say about guys with like Batman statues then? Hmmmm;)

[Michael P]

Well, I don't exactly see "Spiderman Loves Mary Jane" or "MJ 616" either.

Mary Jane is the love of Peter Parker's life. It all began with a blind date set up between Peter's Aunt May, and Mary Jane's Aunt Anna and, grew to become one of comic's most enduring love stories. Uninterested in dating any girl Aunt May might try to set him up with, Peter dodged several attempts to meet "that nice Watson girl next door." But when he finally came face to face with the gorgeous redhead, she not only took his breath away, but took the words right out of his mouth by uttering her now famous line, "Face it, Tiger... you just hit the jackpot." Eventually, she became not only his girlfriend, but also his wife. An actress and model herself, over the years Mary Jane has been there for Peter Parker to nurse his battle wounds, cheer his victories and protect his secrets.

Your nerd fu is weak.

[Jeff Brady]

Your nerd fu is weak.

My nerd-fu tires of clicking "READ MORE" links.

Like on mildly astonishing blogs where there isn't more to read.

[mgs]

What is this word, guilt?:confused:

I think it was invented by married people. :)

[Serik]

I haven't been reading Spider-man comics lately, but since when has Peter and MJ lived in a trailer park?

[mgs]

unbelieveably!!! after checking out that site, actual anime statues have LESS cheesecake than that one, it appears to be the sexiest one they have. and they actually DO make some quality items, especially the maquettes!! :confused:

[Valmore]

Geez gang, getting a bit too worked up about a piece of cheesecake aren't you?

You ever had Cheesecake Factory cheesecake? Stuff is totally awesome. Try to touch my cheesecake and you'll be wearing a fork for a wristwatch.

Oh, we're talking about a butt-less Mary Jane statue. Meh.

[rick]

Haven't noticed anybody get worked up yet.

I just see making fun of a silly statue.


I don't know about that...


Buying statues like these should be grounds for chemical castration.

[mgs]

I have a Dorothy from the Twisted Wizard of Oz that I proudly display and that's 10 times worse than that statue.

http://www.spawn.com/toys/horror/monsters2/dorothy/images/monsters2_dorothy_photo_03_dp.jpg

yeah, but the whole Twisted World of World of Oz is Supposed to be that way, yes? Regular Spidey Land is not supposed to be that way, I don't think.

[rick]

You ever had Cheesecake Factory cheesecake? Stuff is totally awesome. Try to touch my cheesecake and you'll be wearing a fork for a wristwatch.

Oh, we're talking about a butt-less Mary Jane statue. Meh.


Good cheesecake is certainly worth killing over.

No doubt about that at all.

[mgs]

You ever had Cheesecake Factory cheesecake? Stuff is totally awesome. Try to touch my cheesecake and you'll be wearing a fork for a wristwatch.

Oh, we're talking about a butt-less Mary Jane statue. Meh.

they have like 30 different kinds of cheesecake!! my cousin moved to Florida and loved it so much he bought some stock in the company there. :)

[Agent Helix]

I don't know about that...

I stand buy it.

If you're getting this stuff, you obviously have no real interest in sex anyhow.

Also, grow a sense of humor, Rick. Jesus.

[Winona Ryder 2099]

cheesecake! cheesecake!! cheesecake!!!

[Jeff Brady]

Good cheesecake is certainly worth killing over.

No doubt about that at all.

Junior's has awesome cheesecake. It's definitely worth maiming for.

[mgs]

Junior's has awesome cheesecake. It's definitely worth maiming for.

Junior's is really good. I'm surprised they were beaten by Bobby Flay or was ut the other way around? *forgets* hmmm....

[Jeff Brady]

Junior's is really good. I'm surprised they were beaten by Bobby Flay or was ut the other way around? *forgets* hmmm....

I am unaware of this "Bobby Flay" you speak of. I must investigate further.

[mgs]

I am unaware of this "Bobby Flay" you speak of. I must investigate further.

yes, i likes the food network. ;)

[Jeff Brady]

yes, i likes the food network. ;)

Um. Oh. I am Cable TV-less.

[mgs]

Um. Oh. I am Cable TV-less.

whaaaaa???!?!?!!? so, you actually go out and have a life then, yes? ;)

[Jeff Brady]

whaaaaa???!?!?!!? so, you actually go out and have a life then, yes? ;)

There have been a few attempts at such recently, yes. But shutting it off was more of a "I need to save money" thing.

[rick]

I stand buy it.

If you're getting this stuff, you obviously have no real interest in sex anyhow.

Also, grow a sense of humor, Rick. Jesus.


To quote Howya...

http://www.jipemania.com/coke/1940/photos/1947-COCA-COLA-BOTTLE.jpg

I am certainly not taking any of this thread seriously in the least. :eek:

[mgs]

There have been a few attempts at such recently, yes. But shutting it off was more of a "I need to save money" thing.

ah...I pity you then! sorry. :(

[DrewTheXenocide]

Junior's has awesome cheesecake. It's definitely worth maiming for.

It is. I have.

[Sanagi]

I have a Dorothy from the Twisted Wizard of Oz that I proudly display and that's 10 times worse than that statue.

http://www.spawn.com/toys/horror/monsters2/dorothy/images/monsters2_dorothy_photo_03_dp.jpg
It's a matter of twisted vs. tacky.

[Alex]

I just wanted to agree with howy, and say she needs a bigger ass.
It's a dudes ass.

[moebius]

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/mas_assets/large/6818.jpg

Go here for a 360-degree quicktime pic:

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?item=6818

Because you didn't quite feel dirty enough.

Is that a thong?

I am so buying this...by which I mean, I have zero interest in buying this.

[Typo Lad]

I am unaware of this "Bobby Flay" you speak of. I must investigate further.

Don't. He's a twit.

[Fish Sauce]

Is that a thong?

I am so buying this...by which I mean, I have zero interest in buying this.

Haha, I thought I was the only one that noticed that.

What a dodgy figurine.

[Kid Omega]

Don't. He's a twit.

You've met him?

Or are you just being a reactionary curmudgeon?

[Typo Lad]

You've met him?

Or are you just being a reactionary curmudgeon?

I'm sorry, let me be more clear:

While I have never met the man, I have had the chance to watch his shows and he comes off as an arrogant ass. He consistantly mangles cooking termanology, which drives me batty.

[Wesley Dodds]

What sells it for me is that she's barefoot.

Obviously, Spidey hid her shoes. Wife can't leave the house without her shoes.

[Alex]

I've been thinking, i don't think this is sexist.
Her chest has been enlarged to ridiculas proportions, her waist doesn't exsist, and she's bent over in a position that isn't natural for picking things up.
However, given the addition of her washing clothes while looking like this, and even her being barefoot, i'm thinking it's not sexist, its....campy.

[HomerJay]

The thing about these statues is that you know the guys that buy them stick them up their anus while masturbating.
Leave Cunard out of this.
On top of everything else, it's ugly, which would seem to defeat the point.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/HomerJay64/studpost.jpg
Geez gang, getting a bit too worked up about a piece of cheesecake aren't you?
Overreaction? Not CBR.

Just like if you buy those weird busts of Supergirl where she's in "look at my tits!" poses. Seriously, who willingly displays these things in their homes? Who has an place to put something like this where it doesn't just look tacky and weird?
You mean this one?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/HomerJay64/5165_a_full.jpg

Yes, of course I own it. The Powergirl one too.
If you're getting this stuff, you obviously have no real interest in sex anyhow.
That confuses me.
i'm thinking it's not sexist, its....campy.
I think Alex gets it.
I think this statue is intended as a parody of itself.

That said, I wouldn't attempt to buy it. Buying the Supergirl & Powergirl busts was pushing the envelope far enough for me.

[Forefinger]

I know there are already a ton of threads about the crude sexual content that is forced into today's superhero comics, but this needed to be ridiculed.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/TonyBang/6818_press10-001.jpg
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/TonyBang/6818_press03-001.jpg

How much will this sale I wonder? How lonely do you have to be to buy one of these?

EDIT: Hey could one of the mods take out the word Comics in the title, since I guess this isn't the comics department fault.
I guess those are some nice boobs.....

[jessecuster3]

You all have clearly never had Eli's...


http://www.thebestofchicago.com/productcart/pc/catalog/Elioriginalwheel.jpg

[ILLUS]

LOL! :) Yikes! that is so blatantly sexual it had to be intentional. Wonder why no one caught/stopped it?

Ummm...no one wanted to stop it. Sex sells. It's pretty lame and the anatomy is horrible.

[Wesley Dodds]

Actually, yes, her ass is oddly under-sized.

...

And when did Supergirl start looking like Marilyn Monroe?

[i_mmmchocolate]

Disturbing.

[Matt Algren]

Wow. I just found this. How terribly sad.

Then I found this. It almost makes up for it.

Original:
http://www.devildollmedia.com/lj/mj1.jpg



Doctored:
http://home.mindspring.com/~suntyger/mj1.jpg

[Valmore]

Note to self: kill Matt Algren for setting my eyes on fire.

[Winslow]

Now we just need a statue of Peter Parker in a white sleeveless T.

[Matt Algren]

Now we just need a statue of Peter Parker in a white sleeveless T.
Go ahead, call it a wifebeater.

[Winslow]

Go ahead, call it a wifebeater.

Somebody needs to redeem the name of that T.

[jessecuster3]

Somebody needs to redeem the name of that T.

Its an A-Shirt

http://www.jockey.com/en-US/Catalog/Silhouette.aspx?CategoryName=Men&DepartmentName=T-shirts&SilhouetteName=T-Shirts&List=11

[Slam_Bradley]

Somebody needs to redeem the name of that T.


We in the business call it a wife-beater.

[thespianphryne]

Somebody needs to redeem the name of that T.

Where I come from we called them singlet vests. Or banians if you were going native.


-Das

[Matt Algren]

Somebody needs to redeem the name of that T.
I suppose we could call it a KFed or a Larry the Cable Guy, but what's the point?

Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_top)says that some people call it an Italian dinner jacket.

[Paul McEnery]

Speaking of which, anyone think they airbrushed the man out of this picture?

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-content/2007/05/FPSImonson.jpg

[Kid Omega]

I'm sorry, let me be more clear:

While I have never met the man, I have had the chance to watch his shows and he comes off as an arrogant ass. He consistantly mangles cooking termanology, which drives me batty.

He's a chef of an extremely successful restaurant. They can tend to be arrogant.

I just think it's weird to call someone a "twit" or whatever when you have no personal contact with them.

I mean, I crack on Claremont's crappy writing all day long, but I'd never insult him as a person.

[Lance]

He's a chef of an extremely successful restaurant. They can tend to be arrogant.

From what I've seen he's a smug sloppy bastard. Also, his knife work is a joke.

Here's the premise of his newest show.

1. Take an award winning chef

2. Make them think they're being selected for a special on the Food Network
A camera crew hangs out with them shooting footage.

3. Enter Bobby Flay to challenge them at their specialty(chili, burgers, chowder, whatever),
Dispelling the myth that someone actually just wanted to recognize them for their talent.

It all comes back to Flay. Screw all you hardworking people. No one wants to see you.

Let's have a THROWDOWN!!!

It really angers some of the contestants. I remember the guy for the donut "throwdown" was pissed.

Shitty idea for a show really.

[mgs]

Wow. I just found this. How terribly sad.

Then I found this. It almost makes up for it.

</p>
haha! :)

I laugh at the absurdity of how it fits better. Not the actual premise of spousal abuse. :(

[mgs]

He's a chef of an extremely successful restaurant. They can tend to be arrogant.

</p>
Plus, I think he developed more of the 'tude from his chillin' and grillin' show. They did a doc on him few weeks ago, and he was apparently told to be more confident and cocky to play off his more rural companion (actually his friend) on the show.

Remember, though they are on the show as themselves, they are all still kinda acting to play a part that would get audiences to watch their shows.

I have yet to eat at one of his places, but that's b/c they are so usually crowded, but I hear the food is wonderful. What I really wanna know is what happened between him and his former co-host Jackie. I thought she was hot and there's not much info on her on the net.

[Athena Bast]

I've been thinking, i don't think this is sexist.
Her chest has been enlarged to ridiculas proportions, her waist doesn't exsist, and she's bent over in a position that isn't natural for picking things up.
However, given the addition of her washing clothes while looking like this, and even her being barefoot, i'm thinking it's not sexist, its....campy.

Even in order to balance herself she'd have to flex her thighs.

Also, the jeans, would never do that. If those were real you would see if she'd had her brazilian that month if she bent like that and the front would be all bunched up. Those style jeans are for standing not for bending.

[Joe Rice]

From what I've seen he's a smug sloppy bastard. Also, his knife work is a joke.

Here's the premise of his newest show.

1. Take an award winning chef

2. Make them think they're being selected for a special on the Food Network
A camera crew hangs out with them shooting footage.

3. Enter Bobby Flay to challenge them at their specialty(chili, burgers, chowder, whatever),
Dispelling the myth that someone actually just wanted to recognize them for their talent.

It all comes back to Flay. Screw all you hardworking people. No one wants to see you.

Let's have a THROWDOWN!!!

It really angers some of the contestants. I remember the guy for the donut "throwdown" was pissed.

Shitty idea for a show really.


Blame Food Network for that one. By all accounts, Flay isn't happy with that show or its format.

[howyadoin]

</p>Just outta curiosity, why do you always type that at the beginning of your posts?

[mgs]

Just outta curiosity, why do you always type that at the beginning of your posts?

it sucks. :( it's a mistake.

my computer is messed up right now, so if you go to someone's post to 'quote' them, you see all the type that has to go into making blank lines and stuff. ( -&-n-b-s-p-;- ) I actually have to still type all that stuff into my posts and sometimes, that stays in there somehow.

[Valmore]

Blame Food Network for that one. By all accounts, Flay isn't happy with that show or its format.

Yeah, because Flay knows the show totally needs chicks with huge racks and no butts bending over to do laundry. A-duh.

[Slam_Bradley]

Yeah, because Flay knows the show totally needs chicks with huge racks and no butts bending over to do laundry. A-duh.


That would certainly bring in the comic nerd audience.



Full circle.

[Nikita]

I haven't been reading Spider-man comics lately, but since when has Peter and MJ lived in a trailer park?



LOL. (apparently, she's also now working as a stripper to afford her new massive boobs)

[Jack Zodiac]

Eh, I can handle the boobs (heh, heh...). Romita made her pretty boobtastic in that tight black blouse the first time we meet her. It's the barefoot, washtub, bent over in subservience position she's in that's pretty nutty here.

[Agent Helix]

Eh, I can handle the boobs (heh, heh...). Romita made her pretty boobtastic in that tight black blouse the first time we meet her. It's the barefoot, washtub, bent over in subservience position she's in that's pretty nutty here.

For me, it's mostly the fact that if she stood up straight, she'd be at least nine feet tall.

[Sam T.]

This is an awesome statue...I want one!!

[Spike-X]

This is an awesome statue...I want one!!
Wow...I'm going to have to agree there!!

[morna]

the proportions are insane on that thing.

[howyadoin]

the proportions are insane on that thing.Whoever did it is clearly not an ass man.

[Floyd The Barber]

Never ceases to amaze me that in a violent war torn impoverished world people can still get "up in arms" about a little gratuitous T&A. Y'know, war, injustice, poverty, gas-prices, bigotry, all that really pales in comparison to the over-sexualization of female comic characters. Mary Jane's so much more detrimental to our youth than OH say... Paris Hilton. Seriously people...find a more worthy cause...'kay?

[howyadoin]

Y'know, war, injustice, poverty, gas-prices, bigotry, all that really pales in comparison to...... people in movie theaters who talk too loud?

[Floyd The Barber]

... people in movie theaters who talk too loud?

Yep, not in comparison to the aforementioned things, but waaaayyyy moreso than a sexy MJ statue. And I'll tell you why smartypants! :)

Because other people have to deal with the people who talk in theatres, but who really has to deal with the people who put these statues on their shelves. Are you telling me I'm ruining someone's $9.00 or 2 1/2 hours by putting one of these statues on my shelf?

[Floyd The Barber]

... people in movie theaters who talk too loud?

And besides... If sex ruins YOUR day. There's just nothin' I can say to ya.

[Jeff Brady]

*watches point fly overhead*

[Paul McEnery]

And besides... If sex ruins YOUR day. There's just nothin' I can say to ya.

I'm sure you say that to all the girls.

[Spike-X]

Mary Jane's so much more detrimental to our youth than OH say... Paris Hilton.

Yeah, if only there was a thread here devoted to bashing Paris Hilton.

[HomerJay]

Seriously people...find a more worthy cause...'kay?
You're in the wrong place, mister.
We're comic book geeks. Our righteous indignation on trivial matters knows no bounds.

[Sam T.]

Wow...I'm going to have to agree there!!

I'm oh so glad you agree with me. This statue is a work of art.

[Athena Bast]

I don't mind the statue all that much.. I just wish she wasn't as elongated (there's more than just pilates going here), had an ass to balance the boobage, had her red hair intact...

[Winona Ryder 2099]

I just wish she was naked.

[Joe Rice]

What I’ve meant to say about this to the people that seem to express bewilderment that some would be offended by this, think of it this way. They chose THIS VERY MOMENT to freeze into a statue. Of decades of comic images and with all the talent at their disposal, they chose a subservient laundry pose. Sure, sometimes women do laundry, even for their husbands, and maybe even sexily.

But that’s the moment they chose and it says something.

Sure, sometimes real black people really do eat fried chicken and watermelon, but if they chose that specific image to portray Luke Cage, it would be pretty much the same kind of offense.

[Matt Algren]

By the way, for those who haven't seen it, here's the article from today's NY Post (http://www.nypost.com/seven/05162007/news/nationalnews/mary_jane_is_spidey_sensuous_nationalnews_neil_gra ves.htm), complete with pictures.

MARY JANE IS SPIDEY 'SENSUOUS'
By NEIL GRAVES
May 16, 2007 -- Say, doesn't that comely babe - barefoot, buxom and scrubbing some laundry - look familiar?

Why, it's Spider-Man's better half, Mary Jane, and, wow, are the Webbed Wonder's fans steamed over this one.

Bloggers are scorching their keyboards, claiming that a statuette of Mary Jane, based on artist Adam Hughes' notion of a fantasy femme, is an eyeful of outrage.

Sporting sexy cleavage and a very exposed pink thong peeking out from tight jeans, Mary Jane is nobody's washerwoman, although she's bending over a tub scrubbing Spidey's iconic superhero gear.

The rendition has gotten so many catcalls that a Web observer, in a six-part outline, said enough already: Cease and desist.

"Devildoll" wrote on the site LiveJournal, "Okay, people. It's been six days and 750 comments and I'm not going to try to keep up anymore.

If you're here to comment about how much you dislike it, I agree with you and I thank you for commenting."

On Blogspot.com, under the title, "Mary Jane, the Other White Meat," a writer said, "The statue represents a big step backwards for those concerned about the state and future of comic books."

A disappointed Angie's electronic diary read, "Sorry but naah. It's a girl in some jeans holding a Spider-Man mask."

And an irate Canadian lass blogged, "I'd like a statue of Spider-Man doing his own damn laundry ... This is the worst thing I have ever seen."

[Typo Lad]

NY Post, not NY News...

[Matt Algren]

Right, that's what I said.

Pay no attention to the edit tag.

[mgs]

Whoever did it is clearly not an ass man.

haha! LOL! :DI don't mind the statue all that much.. I just wish she wasn't as elongated (there's more than just pilates going here), had an ass to balance the boobage, had her red hair intact...

I fully agree with everything said here. :)What I’ve meant to say about this to the people that seem to express bewilderment that some would be offended by this, think of it this way. They chose THIS VERY MOMENT....

O.O Daum! Joe, in true Brooklynite fashion just cuts right to the heart of the matter with the truth in yo face!! :)

[Valmore]

What I’ve meant to say about this to the people that seem to express bewilderment that some would be offended by this, think of it this way. They chose THIS VERY MOMENT to freeze into a statue. Of decades of comic images and with all the talent at their disposal, they chose a subservient laundry pose. Sure, sometimes women do laundry, even for their husbands, and maybe even sexily.

But that’s the moment they chose and it says something.

Sure, sometimes real black people really do eat fried chicken and watermelon, but if they chose that specific image to portray Luke Cage, it would be pretty much the same kind of offense.

Yeah, and sure some Irish people get drunk and start fights, but if they named a whole University's mascot after it... wait...

[howyadoin]

*watches point fly overhead*I think it broke the sound barrier before it soared out of sight.

[Pinball]

Bloggers are scorching their keyboards, claiming that a statuette of Mary Jane, based on artist Adam Hughes' notion of a fantasy femme, is an eyeful of outrage.


Adam Hughes? Ah, now i see the problem.
Marvel shoulda got Frank Cho to do it.
At least she'd have an ass then.

[metr0man]

It's very "comic book typical". Yes, it's demeaning and reduces women to sex objects and stereotypes........ but that's how comic fans like their women. *points to the comic rack*

[Calybos]

You'll notice that it's sold out on the site.

I wonder how many copies they'll have to make to meet the demand for this little item?

[mgs]

I think it's hysterical how much outrage this sexist POS has caused!! (psst! check out the links)

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/17/night-of-the-feminazis-pt-1/#comments

[Michael P]

I think it's hysterical how much outrage this sexist POS has caused!! (psst! check out the links)

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2007/05/17/night-of-the-feminazis-pt-1/#comments

I don't usually agree with Johanna Draper Carlson, but she's right when she says superhero comics aren't made with women in mind. Sometimes I wonder if they're made with men in mind, either.

Still love the goofy things, when they're good (see, for example, the X-Men First Class Special out this week).

[mgs]

I don't usually agree with Johanna Draper Carlson, but she's right when she says superhero comics aren't made with women in mind. Sometimes I wonder if they're made with men in mind, either.

Still love the goofy things, when they're good (see, for example, the X-Men First Class Special out this week).

yeah, I think some artists try and emulate too many 'hot girl pictures' from Maxix, Stuff and all the usual porn outlets. You see in one of the links, the slight similarity between MJ's pose and one by famed femme, Bettie Paige.

As for the x-men book, I didn't like it too much. A good idea, but Colleen was not used effectively and the stories were kinda, bleah. I much reather they bring back the x-men: Unlimited anthology which had some top rate ideas in it.

[Michael P]

yeah, I think some artists try and emulate too many 'hot girl pictures' from Maxix, Stuff and all the usual porn outlets. You see in one of the links, the slight similarity between MJ's pose and one by famed femme, Bettie Paige.

As for the x-men book, I didn't like it too much. A good idea, but Colleen was not used effectively and the stories were kinda, bleah. I much reather they bring back the x-men: Unlimited anthology which had some top rate ideas in it.
Oh, c'mon. Jean Grey adopting the Dragon Man. How can you not love that?

[mgs]

Oh, c'mon. Jean Grey adopting the Dragon Man. How can you not love that?

well, that was cute, I admit. ;)

but DM had me thinking the whole thing would be a setup like the ending of Alien:Ressurection!! :D

[Dreadstar]

I'm just now getting up to speed on last week's indignation controversy. Sue me.

I don't care for the statue. But not for any politically correct reasoning. I don't like it because it's just not very good.

Now, if they could have actually captured what Hughes put to paper, I might have actually bought it.

EDIT: Well, I might have except for the fact that they want $140 for it. There's that, too.

[i_mmmchocolate]

Can't we have one all-inclusive thread about this goddamn statue?

[HomerJay]

I'm just now getting up to speed on last week's indignation controversy. Sue me.
Rick has admirably attemped to start a thread to address said indignation.
I don't care for the statue. But not for any politically correct reasoning. I don't like it because it's just not very good.
NO! You're doing it wrong!
You are clearly more enlighted and evolved than the rest of us pigs and you impress the ladies because of it.

[Agent Helix]

Oh for fuck's sake stop with this fucking bullshit.

[HomerJay]

Can't we have one all-inclusive thread about this goddamn statue?
I think we're alright actually.
This thread is (or should be) about the statue itself, while Rick's thread addresses the much bigger picture.

[Dreadstar]

Can't we have one all-inclusive thread about this goddamn statue?

Point.



.

[Xero Kaiser]

......this is the statue that's got everyone bent outta shape?

I don't get it

[Calybos]

Apparently it's got MJ bent outta shape too, which is the cause of the outrage.

[Spackling Compound]

I'm so proud of DC....

http://www.dccomics.com/media/products/7542_a_full.jpg

[Typo Lad]

I'm so proud of DC....

http://www.dccomics.com/media/products/7542_a_full.jpg

While I certainly see how some would find that offensive, there's a fine line between "woman in a dramatic pose" and "Woman barefoot with thong hanging out, doing housework".

[Spackling Compound]

While I certainly see how some would find that offensive, there's a fine line between "woman in a dramatic pose" and "Woman barefoot with thong hanging out, doing housework".

No offense and no comparison to the MJ statue.
I'm just posting something positive here.

[Michael P]

Yeah. The real outrage is gonna come later today, when the Heroes For Hire cover arrives in style.

[Charles RB]

According to The Beat, the artist on that cover is a Japanese woman. I'd wonder what went through her mind, but I bet it was "Marvel pay money! Money cover rent and food! ME WANT MONEY!".

Not that I blame her, coz me want money too!

EDIT: And also on the Beat, someone commenting that "the blogiverse is ultimately a better answer to the call for comics journalism than any formal publication", coz there's no way it could be dismissed by comic editors & management as a bunch of random ameteurs on the Internet.

[Jack Zodiac]

Wo-ha-how! Mike, you weren't kidding. That's pretty fuckin' bad. (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/3536573.html)

[BoosterBronze]

Wo-ha-how! Mike, you weren't kidding. That's pretty fuckin' bad. (http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/3536573.html)

I don't know if my sense of justice is offended, or my sense of aesthetics. That cover is HORRIBLE on so many levels.

[Spackling Compound]

According to The Beat, the artist on that cover is a Japanese woman. I'd wonder what went through her mind, but I bet it was "Marvel pay money! Money cover rent and food! ME WANT MONEY!".

Not that I blame her, coz me want money too!

EDIT: And also on the Beat, someone commenting that "the blogiverse is ultimately a better answer to the call for comics journalism than any formal publication", coz there's no way it could be dismissed by comic editors & management as a bunch of random ameteurs on the Internet.

I don't know what's worse, the tentacle porn on the cover or the "ME WANT MONEY" bad Asian imitation...

[Matt Algren]

For those who can't see scans_daily, here it is from Marvel's catalog.

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/covers/0807/HFH13-.jpg

[founder81]

Re Heroes for Hire Cover

So, uhm... La Blue Girl guest stars?

[Slam_Bradley]

Street-Walking Heroes for Hire.

[Winslow]

For those who can't see scans_daily, here it is from Marvel's catalog.

I'm somewhat embarrassed to say I can't work up any outrage over that one. Maybe I'm getting callous.

You have to make a lot of associations and connect the dots to be offended (unlike the statue). To me it's some women in a perilous situation with a monster.

And I kinda like the art. At least it's not stiff, and there's some emotion to it (maybe I just dug a grave for myself there).

[Agent Helix]

http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/rape-is-imminent.jpg

[Matt Algren]

I'm somewhat embarrassed to say I can't work up any outrage over that one. Maybe I'm getting callous.

You have to make a lot of associations and connect the dots to be offended (unlike the statue). To me it's some women in a perilous situation with a monster.

And I kinda like the art. At least it's not stiff, and there's some emotion to it (maybe I just dug a grave for myself there).

To me, it's more the missing nipples and the relaxed afro than anything else. In other words, the follow through is the problem instead of the concept. At least they're actively involved in a standard situation instead of doing laundry with pearl necklaces on.

[HomerJay]

I'm somewhat embarrassed to say I can't work up any outrage over that one. Maybe I'm getting callous.

You have to make a lot of associations and connect the dots to be offended (unlike the statue). To me it's some women in a perilous situation with a monster.

And I kinda like the art. At least it's not stiff, and there's some emotion to it (maybe I just dug a grave for myself there).
Dammit, Winslow. Your usual brand of rational level-headedness has no place in this thread.

That is a good point though. In a vacuum, it really is just sexy ladies in peril from a nasty monster, a la Princess Leia getting licked by Jabba the hut.
Knowing what we know about Japanese tentacle porn and the like, it leaves me feeling somewhat icky.

[Winslow]

To me, it's more the missing nipples and the relaxed afro than anything else. In other words, the follow through is the problem instead of the concept. At least they're actively involved in a standard situation instead of doing laundry with pearl necklaces on.

Well, it doesn't say "rape" to me, either. But maybe I'm naive.

[Matt Algren]

Well, it doesn't say "rape" to me, either. But maybe I'm naive.
I think you quoted the wrong post.

[Agent Helix]

Oh, those girls are about to get tentacle raped, no question.

[Winslow]

I think you quoted the wrong post.

No, I was just continuing the conversation by explaining my POV. I'm not challenging or being snarky.

[Matt Algren]

No, I was just continuing the conversation by explaining my POV. I'm not challenging or being snarky.
You're such a wimp. Don't you know that's not how it works?!?!?!?

[Agent Helix]

My big question (beyond "Why don't they have nipples?") is why Black Cat, a master thief, has a bell on her neck. For sneaking?

[Dreadstar]

Re Heroes for Hire Cover

So, uhm... La Blue Girl guest stars?

Yeah, that was where my mind went. This is about par for the course for the DVD cover art of a sector of Anime.

The only difference being, it's on a mainstream "Big Two" comic.

[Winslow]

I'm not making the Hentai tentacle rape connection.

Either I'm stupid, or my brain refuses to "go there."

[Jeff Brady]

I'm not making the Hentai tentacle rape connection.

Either I'm stupid, or my brain refuses to "go there."

There is a white/clear fluid dripping off the tentacles and onto their bodies. You are very lucky that your brain isn't going there.

[Dreadstar]

I'm not making the Hentai tentacle rape connection.

Either I'm stupid, or my brain refuses to "go there."

Hope it's the latter.

Me? I've been twisted beyond repair via low radiation dosages.

[Winslow]

There is a white/clear fluid dripping off the tentacles and onto their bodies. You are very lucky that your brain isn't going there.

I am naive. I thought that was water, and didn't make the association.

I don't want to be in the awkward position of defending over-sexualized art in comics . . because I think the pendulum is out of the ballpark. I don't buy so-called mainstream superhero comics because of it (among other reasons).

But I am curious why fans don't get upset about this stuff on a weekly basis, because every frackin' week a cover is printed with scantily clad women in a soft-porn poses.

[Dreadstar]

I am naive. I thought that was water, and didn't make the association.

I don't want to be in the awkward position of defending over-sexualized art in comics . . because I think the pendulum is out of the ballpark. I don't buy so-called mainstream superhero comics because of it (among other reasons).

But I am curious why fans don't get upset about this stuff on a weekly basis, because every frackin' week a cover is printed with scantily clad women in a soft-porn poses.


You *are* sheltered. People are getting upset about this on a weekly basis. It's just not prevailant at CBR.

[Jeff Brady]

But I am curious why fans don't get upset about this stuff on a weekly basis, because every frackin' week a cover is printed with scantily clad women in a soft-porn poses.

14 year old boys (mentally or physically) need something to whack off to, so you're not going to hear them complain.

The rest of us just don't read the stuff.

[Agent Helix]

Winslow, you may not be seeing the connection, but it's a fairly obvious one, and it requires a minimal leap in logic to get there. The cover isn't really all that inherently sexist, it's just lousy and hilarious on a lot of levels. It's another case of someone somewhere along the line just not thinking things through very well.

Of course, that could be exactly what they're going for, as I'm sure there's a subset of Marvel's readership that's totally into this sort of thing.

[Matt Algren]

I didn't catch that either.

[Dreadstar]

Of course, that could be exactly what they're going for, as I'm sure there's a subset of Marvel's readership that's totally into this sort of thing.

I'm more of the opinion that it was a carte blanche deal they gave to a woman artist they felt might pad readership a bit, drawn from Anime/Manga folk familiar with her work.

[Spackling Compound]

I'm more of the opinion that it was a carte blanche deal they gave to a woman artist they felt might pad readership a bit, drawn from Anime/Manga folk familiar with her work.

This is another moment that marks that I'm way out of the demographic for comics.
In the 80's, I was the market for the Watchmen and Grim N' Gritty and could catch the dark humor of the times and appreciate the tales behind the tales.

Now, as comics become more ridiculously violent and poorly written and the anime/Disney style has become more acceptable, I have noticed my purchase of TPB's and anthologies of Neal Adams work or Jack Kirby has become more frequent.

[Agent Helix]

I'm more of the opinion that it was a carte blanche deal they gave to a woman artist they felt might pad readership a bit, drawn from Anime/Manga folk familiar with her work.

In that case, it would be terribly awesome if she just decided to draw something so easily construed as impending tentacle rape time just because she felt like it.

[Winslow]

Winslow, you may not be seeing the connection, but it's a fairly obvious one, and it requires a minimal leap in logic to get there.

O.K., I am stupid . . .

But I've never read a tentacle rape/watched hentai in manga or anime form.

I guess the monster at the Mines of Moria was looking to bust Legolas hairless asshole . . . (Not being a jerk here, I don't get the whole association of tentacles as phallic objects, and drawing on another work)

[Michael P]

My big question (beyond "Why don't they have nipples?") is why Black Cat, a master thief, has a bell on her neck. For sneaking?

I suppose it's a visual pun. She's been captured, and therefore her captors have belled the cat.

[Dreadstar]

In that case, it would be terribly awesome if she just decided to draw something so easily construed as impending tentacle rape time just because she felt like it.

Exactly what I'm leaning toward as explanation.

[Agent Helix]

O.K., I am stupid . . .

But I've never read a tentacle rape/watched hentai in manga or anime form.

I guess the monster at the Mines of Moria was looking to bust Legolas hairless asshole . . . (Not being a jerk here, I don't get the whole association of tentacles as phallic objects, and drawing on another work)

The fact that this is drawn in an obviously Japanese style is where the connection comes from, not just because it has a tentacle monster. Now you're being intentionally obtuse.

[Spackling Compound]

O.K., I am stupid . . .

But I've never read a tentacle rape/watched hentai in manga or anime form.

I guess the monster at the Mines of Moria was looking to bust Legolas hairless asshole . . . (Not being a jerk here, I don't get the whole association of tentacles as phallic objects, and drawing on another work)

I'm not a tentacle expert, but I'd expect tentacles to be slimy...not in a sexy way..in a gross, suction cup, under muck and mire way.

Didn't get the phallic stuff there. Did get that there were some abundant breasts that were about to be popped free though....

[Jeff Brady]

But I've never read a tentacle rape/watched hentai in manga or anime form.

Ooof, neither have I, but I am very much aware of how prevalent it is. And when I see ooze dripping onto an anime-style character's breasts from a damn tentacle, my first thought is not Cthulhu & Hellboy.

[Winslow]

The fact that this is drawn in an obviously Japanese style is where the connection comes from, not just because it has a tentacle monster. Now you're being intentionally obtuse.

I'll cop to being ignorant (which I'm kind of glad I am) rather than obtuse.

[Michael P]

I'll cop to being ignorant (which I'm kind of glad I am) rather than obtuse.

I *wish* I could be obtuse about this cover. But my brain refuses not to make the obvious connection.

Bad brain! Bad!

[founder81]

I'll cop to being ignorant (which I'm kind of glad I am) rather than obtuse.


Be glad, be VERY glad. At first the stuff is fascinating, then after that, you wish and keep wishing you never saw it.

[Charles RB]

or the "ME WANT MONEY" bad Asian imitation...

What Asian imitation?

[Charles RB]

Oh, those girls are about to get tentacle raped, no question.

Based on Black Cat trying to get her mouth away from the tentacle, they could be going to the Sakaarian dentists.

I hope and pray that's the idea, anyway.

[Spackling Compound]

What Asian imitation?

According to The Beat, the artist on that cover is a Japanese woman. I'd wonder what went through her mind, but I bet it was "Marvel pay money! Money cover rent and food! ME WANT MONEY!".

http://www.destinationhollywood.com/movies/breakfastattiffanys/images/breakfastattiffanys_10.jpg

[Charles RB]

That wasn't an Asian imitation. That was me saying that what went through the artist's mind was probably the uncomplicated and simple thought of "hey, paying work!" - I used Grimlock-speech because I thought it would work better for uncomplicated & simple thought processes, not because I'm seriously suggesting Japanese people think in broken English.

[BoosterBronze]

Is it me, or is there an extra arm in that Heroes for Hire pic?

[Ray R.]

I guess you CAN judge a book by its cover.

[Dreadstar]

Is it me, or is there an extra arm in that Heroes for Hire pic?

I don't think so. There are 5 people chained to the pillar.

[Citizen V]

They need to do a whole series. MJ making Peter's breakfast, MJ rubbing Peter's back on after a long day of work, MJ ironing his costume...

Here here.That`s what women should do.Its good to see that men still control comics.Man Power.

[Jack Zodiac]

Is it me, or is there an extra arm in that Heroes for Hire pic?

Shang-Chi's on the other side of the pillar having... whatever tentacle-porn monsters do to men done to him. Or maybe he got one of the vagina-monsters from "Blue Gender."

[howyadoin]

To me, it's more the missing nipples and the relaxed afro than anything else. In other words, the follow through is the problem instead of the concept. At least they're actively involved in a standard situation instead of doing laundry with pearl necklaces on.Waaaiiit a minute. Now people are getting pissed off because there aren't enough nipples?

[HomerJay]

Waaaiiit a minute. Now people are getting pissed off because there aren't enough nipples?

"Abortions for all!"
"BOOOOOOOOOOO!"
"Very well...abortions for none!"
"BOOOOOOOOOOO!"
"Abortions for some...small American flags for others!"
"YAAAAAAAAAYYY!"

[Mac Danny]

"Abortions for all!"
"BOOOOOOOOOOO!"
"Very well...abortions for none!"
"BOOOOOOOOOOO!"
"Abortions for some...small American flags for others!"
"YAAAAAAAAAYYY!"

Forwards, not backwards..
Upwards not Downwards..
and always twirling twirling twirling towards FREEDOM!

[HomerJay]

Forwards, not backwards..
Upwards not Downwards..
and always twirling twirling twirling towards FREEDOM!
:D

My favorite:
"It does not matter which candidate you vote for. Either way your planet is doomed. DOOMED!"

"Some refreshingly candid comments from Senator Dole."

[Agent Helix]

Waaaiiit a minute. Now people are getting pissed off because there aren't enough nipples?

If you're gonna show that much tit, there's gonna be nipples. As it stands, it just looks weird.

[founder81]

one of the vagina-monsters from "Blue Gender."


I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.

[Mac Danny]

:D

My favorite:
"It does not matter which candidate you vote for. Either way your planet is doomed. DOOMED!"

"Some refreshingly candid comments from Senator Dole."

-We could vote for a third party!

-Go Ahead Throw away your vote!

[Matt Algren]

* You go through life, you try to be nice to people, you struggle to resist the urge to punch 'em in the face, and for what? So some pimply little puke can treat you like dirt because you're not on the team. Well, I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuff's loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.

Alternate quote:

* Ok folks, back away nothing to see here... Oh my God, a horrible plane wreck! Hey everybody, crowd around! Come on, don't be shy, crowd around.

[HomerJay]

That's maybe one of the biggest reasons why THE SIMPSONS is so great. All the supporting characters are good enough to carry a whole episode, and my favorite supporting character changes every couple of years. Right now, I think it's Agnes Skinner.

"Everybody out of the way! Seymour has to use the toilet! His bladder's full! Full of urine!"
"Mother, you're embarrassing me!"
"No I'm not."

[Matt Algren]

If you're gonna show that much tit, there's gonna be nipples. As it stands, it just looks weird.
Yeah, if they're going to show titties, they need to pick one or the other. It's like in that issue of Secret Six where they showed Knock Out naked right out of the shower and the artist put bits of hair where he thought the nipples should be, but he was way off. It just looked stupid.

[HomerJay]

Yeah, if they're going to show titties, they need to pick one or the other. It's like in that issue of Secret Six where they showed Knock Out naked right out of the shower and the artist put bits of hair where he thought the nipples should be, but he was way off. It just looked stupid.
Frank Cho does that alot, but usually with smoke or steam.

[Agent Helix]

Covers like this seem to want to be hypersexualized, but stay PG-13 at the same time. It creates this weird disconnect where it's neither really sexist nor sexy. It just ends up looking weird and cheap.

Still, the bell kills me.

[Spackling Compound]

Frank Cho does that alot, but usually with smoke or steam.

But he tends to know where the nipples go...

[Typo Lad]

Yeah, if they're going to show titties, they need to pick one or the other. It's like in that issue of Secret Six where they showed Knock Out naked right out of the shower and the artist put bits of hair where he thought the nipples should be, but he was way off. It just looked stupid.

I saw that one and wondered if the artist had ever seen an actual breast. I mean, okay, fine, you want to titilate and tease.... but Knockout would have to have very, very oddly placed nipples for that panel to work.

[Spackling Compound]

Covers like this seem to want to be hypersexualized, but stay PG-13 at the same time. It creates this weird disconnect where it's neither really sexist nor sexy. It just ends up looking weird and cheap.

Still, the bell kills me.

I was thinking that if a cover like that came out in 74 when I was a kid buying comics, that would NEVER make it. That would be a Harris Comics kind of comic.

Weird..cheap..sexy..sexist...and written for adult males who read books written on a teen's level.
Sum adjective: Creepy.

By the way, anyone actually read that particular series?

[Agent Helix]

But he tends to know where the nipples go...

Right. I can't really get on Cho's case for drawing sexy, scantily clad women all the time, because he really knows what he's doing. And while it's often cheeky, it's never in what I'd consider to be poor taste.

But here, it just looks like they have these huge flesh-lumps on their chests, and really no differentiating features other than clothing and flesh-lump size. They actually look like those RealDoll things.

[Typo Lad]

By the way, anyone actually read that particular series?

I wanted to. I was really excited when I heard they were doing to be doing a "Daughter of the Dragon" mini.

Then I saw the art.

Passed on it.

[HomerJay]

Right. I can't really get on Cho's case for drawing sexy, scantily clad women all the time, because he really knows what he's doing. And while it's often cheeky, it's never in what I'd consider to be poor taste.
That's a big reason why Cho is one of my favorite artists.
His women are smoking hot while still looking like they could actually exist. They have large breasts that look like they actually have gravity (like real breasts do), they have waists that actually look like they could contain internal organs (Michael Turner, I'm looking in your direction) and they have realistic muscle definition when a character calls for it.
Outside of his women, his art just has a very clean look that appeals to me on the same level that seeing a perfectly-green manicured lawn does.

[Matt Algren]

I saw that one and wondered if the artist had ever seen an actual breast. I mean, okay, fine, you want to titilate and tease.... but Knockout would have to have very, very oddly placed nipples for that panel to work.
I've been looking for the page online, but I can't find it. I might just have to dig it out and scan it myself. Closest I could find were some of the pages here (http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/features/116109762316276.htm), but they aren't the really obvious one.


Note to self: Do not google "knockout nipples" from work. Do google "knockout nipples" from home.

[Mac Danny]

That's a big reason why Cho is one of my favorite artists.
His women are smoking hot while still looking like they could actually exist. They have large breasts that look like they actually have gravity (like real breasts do), they have waists that actually look like they could contain internal organs (Michael Turner, I'm looking in your direction) and they have realistic muscle definition when a character calls for it.
Outside of his women, his art just has a very clean look that appeals to me on the same level that seeing a perfectly-green manicured lawn does.

Then My Lawn is Rob Lifield. Overdone and full of things that you can't figure out what they are.

[Jeff Brady]

Note to self: Do not google "knockout nipples" from work. Do google "knockout nipples" from home.

Here's a hint: use the safe search. There are some things you can't un-see.

[Matt Algren]

Here's a hint: use the safe search. There are some things you can't un-see.
Yeah, I've tried that, but you lose so many good results that I always turn it off.

[founder81]

Still, the bell kills me.

and them, that's how they were caught.

"Now would you listen and take the @$#$&^ bell off, I don't want to be raped by a 2nd tentacle monster this life time"

[Ray R.]

"Now would you listen and take the @$#$&^ bell off, I don't want to be raped by a 2nd tentacle monster this life time"

My mom complained about this all the time.

[Camron Amaya]

The thing about these statues is that you know the guys that buy them stick them up their anus while masturbating.

Lmaooooo greatest post evar

[Spackling Compound]

Now, there's a bunch of halloballoo about this comic cover showing girls "defeated" as if that's the main part that's offensive.

Isn't that what some covers show? Dead heroes? Bound heroes? Crying heroes?

I don't get it.

[BeauSmith]

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Just My Opinion
Beau Smith Takes On Opinions, Heroes For Hire, Mary Jane Statue & More

Ceredo, WV. (5/31/07) Everyone has opinions, but some people get paid for them. Beau Smith is one of them.

In this week’s episode of Busted Knuckles, Beau Smith gives his opinion on “giving his opinion” and the controversies of The Mary Jane Statue, The Heroes For Hire “lucky” #13 cover.

Find out if you agree, disagree or don’t really care what Beau thinks. Click on or cut and paste the link below and make up your own mind.

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/busted

[Sir Tim Drake]

In the case of the Mary Jane statue...there is no case. This is no more sexist that any cover with Superman, Batman, Captain America (Most any male super hero of your choice) standing on the cover with his muscles all flexed and nearly busting out of his spandex.

[...]

Why is it that no one really raises any kind of fuss because all super hero males are built like greek Gods? People whine and complain about Lois Lane being built like a Barbie Doll, but they say nothing about Superman being built like an Adonis.

This is a stupid argument. First of all, images of male superheroes are not designed for the specific purpose of titillating female readers. Superman is not specifically intended as a sex object for female readers to ogle. Mary Jane, on the other hand, is often depicted in a way that specifically appeals to male readers' sexual instincts. The Mary Jane statue is sexualized in a way that the cover of the latest Superman comic isn't.

Second, even if superhero comics do depict both men and women in sexist ways, sexist depictions of women in superhero comics are more harmful than sexist depictions of men. The vast majority of superhero comics fans are heterosexual males (I don't actually have evidence for this claim, but it seems intuitively obvious). Therefore, sexist images of women will have a stronger effect on readers than sexist images of men. Readers will be likely to ignore the fact that Superman is drawn in a sexist way, simply because he doesn't appeal to their sexual predilections. But a sexist depiction of Elektra or Mary Jane will naturally have a stronger effect on a male heterosexual reader, and will help him to form negative perceptions of women in general.

The above was all just off-the-cuff, but simply by virtue of the fact that I was able to come up with these arguments, we can see that this issue is a lot more complex than Beau claims.

I get the impression that Beau didn't put a lot of thought into his comments.

[Mike Smash!]

I don't think I've EVER seen a male superhero depicted in a suggestive, oversexualized way on any official Marvel publication. Only in fanfic.

I think a good example of the difference would be similar to the difference between the portrayals of Counselor Troi in "Star Trek the Next Generation" and of T'Pol and her naked decontamination oil rub downs in "Star Trek: Enterprise".

Troi, though being the show's hot chick and wearing spandex, is seldom if ever, used in a cheesecake or overtly sexual way to titilate the viewer. T'Pol on the other hand was used constantly this way.

So yes, Namor may have the body of Mr. Universe and be wearing next to nothing, but the guy is so damn chaste and professional and unsexual, even when he's hitting on Sue Richards.

In fact, the only male equivalent of the way female characters are sometimes portrayed in comics that I can ever remember seeing is this picture that popped up on the internet a little while back. And I think after looking at it, the difference will be quite obvious:

http://myspace.drewpydraws.com/justthemen/men00021.gif

[Joe Rice]

Yes . . .the flaw is to think that superhero-style-muscled, flat-crotched action figures somehow are sexualized renderings of males.

[Winslow]

For Immediate Release
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Just My Opinion
Beau Smith Takes On Opinions, Heroes For Hire, Mary Jane Statue & More

Ceredo, WV. (5/31/07) Everyone has opinions, but some people get paid for them. Beau Smith is one of them.

In this week’s episode of Busted Knuckles, Beau Smith gives his opinion on “giving his opinion” and the controversies of The Mary Jane Statue, The Heroes For Hire “lucky” #13 cover.

Find out if you agree, disagree or don’t really care what Beau thinks. Click on or cut and paste the link below and make up your own mind.

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/busted

I disagree on MJ, and like the above posts believe you have made some incorrect associations with masculine superhero physiques.

I think a stronger opinion would be to point out the historical connection of comics with cheesecake.

But I had a similar response to you regarding the Heroes for Hire cover. I didn't "get it" until people pointed out the associations.

[Spackling Compound]

Just digging through the old archives...

I sure miss the old Wendy Pini. What the world needs now is more...of that.

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/douglas.jpg

Maybe irrelevant to previous posts and subject at hand but sometimes a vintage snapshot of the days of yore can remind us of how things have changed....