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Ragnorok64
05-11-2007, 08:20 AM
This is a thought that I had before, and with the Chris Kent thing it brought it to mind again. Obviously there won't be many Kryptonians left with the planet exploding and all, but throughout the years there seem to be enough Kryptonians around to at least start repropagateing the species. Between Superman, all the Supergirls, Powergirl, phantom zoners, and Kondor you'd think they could transport some of them to a planet with a red sun and, you know, try and bring the species back from the brink of extinction.

For story purpose this probably won't happen since Clark is supposed to be the last son of Krypton and all that, but from all practical standpoints it makes sense. So what in universe reasons would they have for not doing this? Well besides the fact that superman might have to have sex with his cousins...

jeangreydp
05-11-2007, 08:28 AM
Well besides the fact that superman might have to have sex with his cousins...

I think that about covers it.

666MasterOfPuppets
05-11-2007, 09:14 AM
Hehehe... I agree. And perhaps it's not like they want to have an entire planet filled with Kryptonians, again. It would make Superman's origin (the explosion of Krypton) pretty worthless.

PatchMadripoor
05-11-2007, 09:16 AM
Something I read back in the 90's about Krpytonians being unable to be born outside their planet or they die (or it is spiritually forbidden). Clark was altered to be able to survive, but I don't how and when they retconned this.

666MasterOfPuppets
05-11-2007, 09:19 AM
Nobody does. We're waiting for DC to explain it all... Again.

caboose
05-11-2007, 09:20 AM
Krypton, both in a story-telling way and if you look at the DCU as a living organism, had to die. As did the Kryptonians.

Let them rest in peace.

666MasterOfPuppets
05-11-2007, 09:23 AM
Agreed. And actually, the increasing presence of Kryptonians in the DCU is something that's quite annoying to me.

Rattlehead
05-11-2007, 09:39 AM
Agreed. And actually, the increasing presence of Kryptonians in the DCU is something that's quite annoying to me.

I agree. Wasn't that the entire reason they did the John Byrne Man of Steel re-boot in the first place? Because with a ton of people survivng along with countless pets showing up that Superman himself was nothing special(origin-wise) anymore? Plus, why would every kryptonian wind up on earth, it wouild make more sense to spread them out around the galaxy if they just have to have all of these Kryptonians running around.

Captain Smith
05-11-2007, 09:57 AM
We did this debate before and some writer chimed in that he liked have more Kryptonians and the last son bit didn't mean we could have the seal of steel or Grandpa-El show up.

I agree that too many suck. But by now the last son of a planet and then the rest of the gang showing up is getting old.

J'onn - the last martian has had tour buses of martians arriving at the Cracker Barrel near him.

Lobo - last surivor of his planet.

The Legion was full of this.

Don't forget every once in awhile you get a whole planet of Daxamites who are happy to stay schmucks on their planet rather than ruling the universe.

Oh, well.

Ragnorok64
05-11-2007, 10:00 AM
True, Kryptonians seems as attracted to Earth as Green Lanterns.

That said, I wonder if they'll ever expound on this in any future stories. I mean when a species is in danger of dieing out, doing all in ones power to repropogate it would seem to be a no brainer. I mean start screening and relocating good citizens of Kandor or something.

I think that about covers it.
When it comes to the survival of the species you'd think he could suck it up, take one for the team, and do Power Girl. It's what Conner would have wanted. :p

Jmacq1
05-11-2007, 11:51 AM
As if Supergirl wasn't psychologically messed up enough to begin with!

Now you want her Cousin to start hitting on her? :p

Besides, even if Kal and both Karas (and heck throw Zod and Ursa in there too) all started making babies, Kryptonians would still be an "Endangered Species" for several generations, just due to lack of overall population.

Black Atom
05-11-2007, 12:08 PM
What he said. There are ten times as many pandas than there are Kyrptonians. Even with all the existing ones mating, it'd still take quite some time before they were no longer endangered. Luckily, Kryptonians are generally pretty hard to kill.

Ragnorok64
05-11-2007, 12:13 PM
What he said. There are ten times as many pandas than there are Kyrptonians. Even with all the existing ones mating, it'd still take quite some time before they were no longer endangered. Luckily, Kryptonians are generally pretty hard to kill.
Well I meant it more figuratively than literally, and as you pointed out any one Kryptonian is typically hard to kill if they are powered up. Though if they were to start regenerating the species they'd better do it on a Red Sun world.

caboose
05-11-2007, 12:25 PM
True, Kryptonians seems as attracted to Earth as Green Lanterns.

That said, I wonder if they'll ever expound on this in any future stories. I mean when a species is in danger of dieing out, doing all in ones power to repropogate it would seem to be a no brainer. I mean start screening and relocating good citizens of Kandor or something.


When it comes to the survival of the species you'd think he could suck it up, take one for the team, and do Power Girl. It's what Conner would have wanted. :p

To steal and modify a line from Jurassic Park and Jeff Goldblum's performance as Malcolm the Chaos Theorist...

"Kryptonians are not a species wiped out by deforestation or the advances of man, they had their chance and the DCUniverse selected them for extinction and chose to wipe them out."

For Superman or any of the Super family to actively try and restore a race of Kryptonians to the Universe would be highly irresponisble. In fact if anything that sort of behaviour is kind of what Superman goes against everytime a Zod wants to take over Earth and remodel it.

lucasb
05-11-2007, 01:51 PM
Just before the Crisis reboot, Krypton was pretty much back.

Superman finally succeeded in enlarging Kandor, on a red-sun planet called, IIRC, Rokyn. Considering that there were at least eight million Kryptonians in the bottled city, it seems likely that the species was in no danger of extinction.

Nowadays, they seem to be heading in that direction once again.

Citizen V
05-11-2007, 07:13 PM
In a way..i think Superman will be the only Kryptonian,because he`s the last survivor of a alien planet.That origin is still fresh,and i dont think it will ever change.Minus Powergirl or Supergirl..or Krypto.

Brian "Vash" Ashby
05-11-2007, 08:15 PM
Well besides the fact that superman might have to have sex with his cousins...

Might?

Dude, superman hopes he can have sex with his cousin.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/act289.jpg


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/thank7.jpg

Notice he mentions that in some places on earth cousins can marry

Testing the waters

Plus that issue where he made out with his cousin in a wig to make Lois jealous.




In all seriousness i dont know why DC doesnt look into this storyline, sure its racy and adult, and im not saying he should, but Clark is an alien. Pheromones and such. Plus the coming extinction of Krypotonians clark should "want" to sleep with supergirl, or have an urge i mean. That'd be interesting.

Ive said before, him with supergirl may be incest, but him with Lois is bestiality.

Think about it

Thus the real question

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/comkiss.jpg

Is it more or less okay for Supergirl to hook up with the superhorse over humans?

Ponder.

666MasterOfPuppets
05-11-2007, 08:54 PM
I agree. Wasn't that the entire reason they did the John Byrne Man of Steel re-boot in the first place? Because with a ton of people survivng along with countless pets showing up that Superman himself was nothing special(origin-wise) anymore? Plus, why would every kryptonian wind up on earth, it wouild make more sense to spread them out around the galaxy if they just have to have all of these Kryptonians running around.

If it were up to me, I'd wipe them all out --AGAIN--, except for Superman and Power Girl (who doesn't really count, since she comes from a parallel universe), and perhaps Zod. No Supergirl.

One of the things that made Superman special was his origin: the fact that he WAS the sole survivor of an entire civilization.

And that thing about "having more Kryptonians allows for more interesting stories" might be true, but it doesn't hold water. To me, at least.

666MasterOfPuppets
05-11-2007, 08:56 PM
Might?

Dude, superman hopes he can have sex with his cousin.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/act289.jpg


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/thank7.jpg

Notice he mentions that in some places on earth cousins can marry

Testing the waters

Plus that issue where he made out with his cousin in a wig to make Lois jealous.




In all seriousness i dont know why DC doesnt look into this storyline, sure its racy and adult, and im not saying he should, but Clark is an alien. Pheromones and such. Plus the coming extinction of Krypotonians clark should "want" to sleep with supergirl, or have an urge i mean. That'd be interesting.

Ive said before, him with supergirl may be incest, but him with Lois is bestiality.

Think about it

Thus the real question

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/comkiss.jpg

Is it more or less okay for Supergirl to hook up with the superhorse over humans?

Ponder.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Dude, this post is GOLD.

Ragnorok64
05-11-2007, 09:18 PM
Might?

Dude, superman hopes he can have sex with his cousin.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/act289.jpg


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/thank7.jpg

Notice he mentions that in some places on earth cousins can marry

Testing the waters

Plus that issue where he made out with his cousin in a wig to make Lois jealous. wow, I'm suprised they got so close to this way back then.

Also appearantly the laws and social precepts of a long dead planet were the only thing that was keeping Superman from Supergirl? And why do i get a feeling Supes still has those part of the earth they can marry in, well documented.




In all seriousness i dont know why DC doesnt look into this storyline, sure its racy and adult, and im not saying he should, but Clark is an alien. Pheromones and such. Plus the coming extinction of Krypotonians clark should "want" to sleep with supergirl, or have an urge i mean. That'd be interesting.

Ive said before, him with supergirl may be incest, but him with Lois is bestiality.

Think about it

Thus the real question

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/comkiss.jpg

Is it more or less okay for Supergirl to hook up with the superhorse over humans?

Ponder. Wait.. that man is actually a horse :eek:...

Froggy
05-11-2007, 09:33 PM
If it were up to me, I'd wipe them all out --AGAIN--, except for Superman and Power Girl (who doesn't really count, since she comes from a parallel universe), and perhaps Zod. No Supergirl.

One of the things that made Superman special was his origin: the fact that he WAS the sole survivor of an entire civilization.

And that thing about "having more Kryptonians allows for more interesting stories" might be true, but it doesn't hold water. To me, at least. I'd keep it at that level probably as well. You don't NEED kryptonians to find strong enough antagonists for supes, and his title "Last son of krypton" Should be used without certain folks around. I don't mind the current storyline cause of teh whole phantom zone aordeal, but back then I thought NO ONe could get out of the phantom zone. I thought wrong :/. That and i'd like a crossover where planet vegeta is discovered by krypton. off topic I know but sorry :/

wow, I'm suprised they got so close to this way back then.

Also appearantly the laws and social precepts of a long dead planet were the only thing that was keeping Superman from Supergirl? And why do i get a feeling Supes still has those part of the earth they can marry in, well documented.



Wait.. that man is actually a horse :eek:...

what can i say...........supergirl likes the bestiality way

CapFan
05-12-2007, 12:13 AM
Might?

Dude, superman hopes he can have sex with his cousin.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/act289.jpg


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/thank7.jpg

Notice he mentions that in some places on earth cousins can marry

Testing the waters

Plus that issue where he made out with his cousin in a wig to make Lois jealous.




In all seriousness i dont know why DC doesnt look into this storyline, sure its racy and adult, and im not saying he should, but Clark is an alien. Pheromones and such. Plus the coming extinction of Krypotonians clark should "want" to sleep with supergirl, or have an urge i mean. That'd be interesting.

Ive said before, him with supergirl may be incest, but him with Lois is bestiality.

Think about it

Thus the real question

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/TheHuzzah/comkiss.jpg

Is it more or less okay for Supergirl to hook up with the superhorse over humans?

Ponder.

That is hot! More reasons to love Supes. :cool:

MythicBrawn
05-12-2007, 06:50 AM
If it were up to me, I'd wipe them all out --AGAIN--, except for Superman and Power Girl (who doesn't really count, since she comes from a parallel universe), and perhaps Zod. No Supergirl.

One of the things that made Superman special was his origin: the fact that he WAS the sole survivor of an entire civilization.

And that thing about "having more Kryptonians allows for more interesting stories" might be true, but it doesn't hold water. To me, at least.

Dude, you sound like Darth Sidious. "Wipe them out, all of them!" And, I wholeheartedly agree. For Superman to retain the title of Last Son of Krypton, he needs to be the ONLY survivor. No super-pets, super-criminals, cousins, etc. Bring Daxamites into current continuity if DC wants Kryptonian-analogs. Make them powerful just not as powerful as Superman. Writing them in wouldn't be that hard.

Captain Smith
05-13-2007, 09:57 AM
There certainly is Power Girl! Not really a cousin except if their genetics are close and that increases the odds of a Kryptonian version of the Deliverance Banjo Kid.

Also, I wonder when Supes had his 'robo-perv' scan PG - did he keep the pictures?

There have been scenes when PG was finding herself - -pre Infinite Crisis when Supes was checking out the cleavage.

Vaders shoeshine boy
05-13-2007, 11:29 AM
Dude, you sound like Darth Sidious. "Wipe them out, all of them!" And, I wholeheartedly agree. For Superman to retain the title of Last Son of Krypton, he needs to be the ONLY survivor. No super-pets, super-criminals, cousins, etc. Bring Daxamites into current continuity if DC wants Kryptonian-analogs. Make them powerful just not as powerful as Superman. Writing them in wouldn't be that hard.

Actually he only needs to be the last male survivor to be the last son of krypton...