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shaxper
05-07-2007, 10:20 PM
DC has been getting its butt kicked at the box office in recent years. While Marvel films are a dime a dozen (and three of the Marvel franchises have brought in serious $$$), DC has released two films, and one was a box office disappointment. Personally, I think this is because DC heroes tend to be iconic and unchanging, while Marvel characters are more human and changeable. Spider-Man and the X-Men, in particular, have gone through so many character-rich changes in their history, and much of this was reflected in the films. But Superman and Batman don't have that same level of humanity, and their status quo rarely changes.

So why not reach into the Wildstorm Universe instead (or at least in addition)?

I think Stormwatch/Authority would make for an amazing film franchise, full of intense action, mind-boggling special effects, major character, and great storylines. Here's how I'd envision such a film franchise:

Begin with "Stormwatch: Change or Die." The film would begin much like Ellis's first issue on the book. Bendix is recruiting new members for his team, and we are introduced to Stormwatch through their eyes. However, it's later revealed that Bendix is specifically recruiting them in anticipation of a conflict with The Changers. First though, the newly reorganized teams would confront the Neitzchian Superman dude from the first issue, forcing them to reflect upon the responsibility that super-beings like themselves have to the ordinary world.

Perhaps the film would take time to cover the history of Jenny Sparks, recounting her personal history and idealism/jadedness about saving the world. I would leave out the Sliding Albion bit though, as this would probably confuse some movie-goers with unnecessary info.

But the film would then kick into high gear as The High would begin his plan to change the world and Bendix would begin to make orders that would place the team in morally uncomfortable circumstances. Eventually, Jenny Sparks would take him down, but not before a biological weapon destroys the Changers, leaving The High to attack Stormwatch and die in the process. The film would end with Jackson King taking over as Weatherman, as the entire team reflects, individually, upon what has happened.


If that film did well, then it would follow with two sequels. The first would be "Stormwatch: Bleed," in which the Bleed storyline is done, but with our Stormwatch actually taking some sort of active role in the events occurring on the alternate Earth. The action would have to be intensified a lot, with all out war between the residents of that Earth and the aliens, but it would all begin with that one ship ominously approaching. The film would provide some great action, as well as intense character building as the team debates amongst themselves how involved they should get in another Earth's war. This would also provide some great backstory on Jack Hawksmoor, as he relives his memories while being forced to fight the aliens that made him into what he is. In the end, though, Jackson King would make the call to stand down and let the alternate Stormwatch team board the lead alien ship on their own, leaving Stormwatch to wonder if getting involved would have saved the other team's lives.

Finally, the third film would be "Stormwatch vs. Aliens," in which the devastating encounter with the Xenomorphs is rewritten as Stormwatch's battle with the aliens on their station. WildC.A.T.S. would never appear in the film. Just like in the comic, many characters would die, but Stormwatch Black would be on the station too, this time, allowing the team to put up a better fight and walk away with a few more survivors.

I'd also introduce Midnighter and Apollo at the beginning of this film, before the aliens arrive. Christine would discover Bendix's file on the pair, and Stormwatch would confront them, have a quick fight, and then reach an understanding, pulling Midnighter and Apollo up to the station. Jackson wouldn't trust the two yet, so they'd still be in a room, held for "polite" interrogation, when the Xenomorph attack would begin. Ultimately, Midnighter and Apollo would play key roles in the conflict, becoming part of the team by default.

This would be another great action film, full of great characterization as each member of the team is forced to encounter his or her most desperate moment. The introduction of Midnighter would be priceless for comic relief amidst all the terror and chaos. I think Jack Hawksmoor could manage to make light of the situation at times too. Most importantly, though, all this would come amidst Jackson doubting himself after the last film, as well as facing doubts from the rest of the crew. By the end of the film, Stormwatch will be destroyed physically and intellectually, but the spirit and idealism will still be there in the wreckage, allowing for the possibility of an Authority film to follow...


What do you guys think?

anthony devlin
05-08-2007, 01:47 AM
I think, and personally hope, that if they went with a WS franchise, then they would stick to simply an Authority movie; and they only really need to covert Ellis run over; which would be an easy task considering the whole production of the first 12 issues. I think including StormWatch would confuse people more. I would also prefer that if they were to deal with the history of Jenny Sparks, then they would do it in a spin-off movie.

Bradpinder
05-08-2007, 06:21 AM
An utohority movie aould be cool, but rate it R and keep the edge, get some crazy kung fu action for Midnighter, and Jack, extreme power dispalys by Apollo and kick a$$ effects for Engener Jenny and swift. The only thing is... get some credible actors and actresses to keep it grounded and not make it JUST a special effects movie.

oh and just for fun cast it for me.

Midnighter : Joshua Morrow
Apollo: Heath Ledger
Swift: Lucy Lu
Enginere: Mia Jovovich
Jack: Johny Depp
Jenny: Julia Stiles

Ryan Day
05-08-2007, 06:36 AM
It would cost way too much money to do effectively, and studios are unlikely to spend that much cash on a franchise with no virtually no brand value. Authority can barely sell to people who read lots of comics - no one outside the industry has even heard of it.

Even assuming someone wanted to spend the money on it, there's almost no way a big-budget superhero movie would get an R rating. It'd be diluted to the point that it just looks like a lame Justice League knockoff.

anthony devlin
05-08-2007, 06:38 AM
oh and just for fun cast it for me.

Midnighter : Joshua Morrow
Apollo: Heath Ledger
Swift: Lucy Lu
Enginere: Mia Jovovich
Jack: Johny Depp
Jenny: Julia Stiles

Midnighter : Jason Statham
Apollo: Daniel Craig
Swift:
Engineer:
Jack: Clive Owen
Jenny: Sienna Miller or, kiera knightly
Doctor:

Ryan Day
05-08-2007, 07:23 AM
They’ve made films of lesser know titles before, granted they’ve never had huge budgets but if the pitch was good and they marketed this film to also attract the non-comic market, it stands just as much chance as most sci-fi moves that are made. Granted I think the likelihood of it being made an R (I assume that’s the equivalent of an 18 cert?) is slightly far fetched, but a movie of this nature is still a possibility; although I don’t think DC would ever option it. And Authority still sells well, despite the period of time between issues. and no one outside the industry knowing about it could be leveled against a lot comics: Hellboy; still got made, Constantine; Still got made, etc.

(Yeah, an R rating means no one under 18 admitted without parents - it cuts off the teenage audience, which most studios are extremely reluctant to do)

It's not impossible, granted, but I think it's extremely unlikely.

Hellboy and Constantine aren't particularly great examples, either. For one, they're not in the same budgetary league - just think of all the FX sequences required in Ellis' first six issues alone: gigantic air battles, massive space ships crashing into cities, humongous alien warlords. Authority's a C-list property that would require an A-list budget; you can't get it done with the money studios are willing to spend on Catwoman and Elektra, or probably even Ghost Rider.

Hellboy is a bit of a different beast because it's creator-owned - Mike Mignola is far more protective of his baby than DC would be of Authority. I don't think Hellboy gets made if virtually anyone other than Guillermo Del Toro was in charge of the project.

And I'd be hesitant to use Constantine as a good example of an adaptation, since that's exactly the sort of watered-down film you'd want to avoid. You really want Keanu Reeves playing Midnighter? :)

The best chance of getting an Authority film would be if some director or producer on a hot streak was really keen on it and picked it for his next project. If Peter Jackson, to pick a name out of the hat, said he really wanted to do an Authority film, it might get done properly. Otherwise I'd be very, very worried about the end project.

anthony devlin
05-08-2007, 08:39 AM
Don’t ask me what happened to my post. I edited it and lost half when my computer when loopy.



And I'd be hesitant to use Constantine as a good example of an adaptation, since that's exactly the sort of watered-down film you'd want to avoid. You really want Keanu Reeves playing Midnighter? :)

Dear god no; just the thought almost brought on a panic attack.



The best chance of getting an Authority film would be if some director or producer on a hot streak was really keen on it and picked it for his next project. If Peter Jackson, to pick a name out of the hat, said he really wanted to do an Authority film, it might get done properly. Otherwise I'd be very, very worried about the end project.

In the realm of probabilities this film could happen… in the hear realm of reality, it’s highly unlikely. DC has too many issues with the title to ever consider this as a movie option – just look at all the controversy the title has caused both on and off page during its run. It would be a sweet idea, and would certainly make this Authority fan-boy happy, but alas, unlikely to ever happen.

Bradpinder
05-08-2007, 09:27 AM
Midnighter : Jason Statham
Apollo: Daniel Craig
Swift:
Engineer:
Jack: Clive Owen
Jenny: Sienna Miller or, kiera knightly
Doctor:


I like the Midnighter change! but I think Heath Ledger is more pretty, and thats kind of what Apollo is (no gay joke, Apollo is pretty), and Clive Owen is perfect! and I forgot the Dr... but Im thinking Steve Bucemmi would work good.

anthony devlin
05-08-2007, 11:22 AM
I like the Midnighter change! but I think Heath Ledger is more pretty, and thats kind of what Apollo is (no gay joke, Apollo is pretty), and Clive Owen is perfect! and I forgot the Dr... but Im thinking Steve Bucemmi would work good.

only problem i have with Heath is that he'd really need to bulk up to convince me as Apollo... plus, if we are going with Jason as Middy, he's a little on the you side. Steve would work for me, but i would worry he might be too old - but i guess it would be child's play to de-age him on screen.

Bradpinder
05-08-2007, 11:51 AM
Give Ledger to the guys who trained the boys for 300... bulked them up to superhero looks. now for a director Id say the W brothers, ya the Matrix and V for Vendetta boys, I think they have the chops to pull off something like Authority.

anthony devlin
05-08-2007, 01:41 PM
Give Ledger to the guys who trained the boys for 300... bulked them up to superhero looks. now for a director Id say the W brothers, ya the Matrix and V for Vendetta boys, I think they have the chops to pull off something like Authority.


Although all watchable in their own right, i didn't like the Matrix sequels, and i really wasn't a fan of the V adaptation. although their style of directing would suit a project like this. personally speaking, i'd like to see someone like Danny Boyle on it, with the same team behind 28 Days later, and Sunshine.

shaxper
05-08-2007, 05:29 PM
It would cost way too much money to do effectively, and studios are unlikely to spend that much cash on a franchise with no virtually no brand value. Authority can barely sell to people who read lots of comics - no one outside the industry has even heard of it.

One of the reasons I suggested beginning with Stormwatch as opposed to The Authority it that the premise is more marketable in general. Even without knowing a thing about the comic (or even that there was a comic) I think the idea of superhero world police on an orbiting space station of the future would attract major attention for a summer action blockbuster. If a studio were willing to gamble on providing an adequate budget, I think the film could sell. The Authority, on the other hand, a bunch of rogue idealists trying to make the world a better place while traveling at the speed of thought through the Bleed on a sentient slideship with two gay protagonists, that would be a hard sell at first. However, a succesful Stormwatch franchise could pave the way for audiences to accept and understand such a film at a later time.



Even assuming someone wanted to spend the money on it, there's almost no way a big-budget superhero movie would get an R rating. It'd be diluted to the point that it just looks like a lame Justice League knockoff.

But the target market wouldn't be the kiddies who ran out to see X-men and Spider-Man. They'd be the action/sci-fi fans that roll out to see the more mature action oriented summer flicks for the 20-40 year old male demographic. After all, the themes of the Ellis Stormwatch and Authority stories are way too complex for kids to appreciate.

anthony devlin
05-12-2007, 05:03 AM
Midnighter : Jason Statham
Apollo: Daniel Craig
Swift:
Engineer:
Jack: Clive Owen
Jenny: Sienna Miller or, kiera knightly
Doctor:

Jenny Sparks: Kiera Knightly
Midnighter: Jason Statham
Apollo:
Jack: Clive Owen
Engineer: Carla Gugino
Doctor: Peter Sarsgaard
Shen: I’d got for an unknown (not a reflection on the character, but I feel the Actress options are the typical ones when casting an Asian female)

rilokyle
05-12-2007, 07:15 AM
I wouldn't be opposed to a Gen13 liveaction film. Teens with powers is always popular.

However, Wildstorm characters are nowhere near as iconic as DC or Marvel heroes. And barely anyone is reading Wildstorm these days, so I think any film would probably bomb unfortunately.

Grazzt
05-12-2007, 10:06 AM
However, Wildstorm characters are nowhere near as iconic as DC or Marvel heroes. And barely anyone is reading Wildstorm these days, so I think any film would probably bomb unfortunately.

I disagree with this argument. Blade wasn't an iconic figure, and he managed to get two sequels to his movie. Popularity in comic book circles isn't a good indicator of box-office success, especially since the number of people who read comics is so small.

anthony devlin
05-12-2007, 10:28 AM
I wouldn't be opposed to a Gen13 liveaction film. Teens with powers is always popular.

However, Wildstorm characters are nowhere near as iconic as DC or Marvel heroes. And barely anyone is reading Wildstorm these days, so I think any film would probably bomb unfortunately.

There have been plenty of movies made from comics that are neither iconic, or attract the same readership as the iconic comics do. Plus, movies are not made to only meet the expectations of the comic community; they are made and aimed at attracting people who have probably never heard of them.

nihil_domini
05-13-2007, 11:10 AM
After seeing that episode of the new Dr.Who involving the zombie gas mask people (takes place in 40's england), I always thought the guys who make that show would do the best job on an authority movie.

They could even have Christopher Eccleston as the Doctor just for giggles.

Anyway, isn't the engineer hispanic? I don't think Mia Jovovich is the best choice.