ultimate age of a Apocalypse

[matt_hatyber]

well ive been thinking about Apocalypse and how he is such a good villian, and i wondered...when will they put in Ultimate X-men. I know they had sinister worshipping him, but he should come to life and destory the world. They should do a ultimate age of a Apocalypse. what uou guys thinkof this idea? do you think that it would be a cool idea???

[The Lucky One]

No. The appeal of the AoA was seeing radically different versions of your favorite 616 characters. The point of the Ultimate line is... different versions of your favorite 616 characters. It would be completely redundant right out of the starting gate.

Plus I don't think Apocalypse is a very good villain. But that's just me.

-D

[Canemacar]

Plus I don't think Apocalypse is a very good villain. But that's just me.

Agreed. He's a complete joke of a villain.

Besides, having a 5,000 year old mutant armed with the technology of gods trying to cull the weak of the world doesn't exactly fit with the tone of the Ultimate Universe.

[Lanowar]

No. The appeal of the AoA was seeing radically different versions of your favorite 616 characters. The point of the Ultimate line is... different versions of your favorite 616 characters. It would be completely redundant right out of the starting gate.

Plus I don't think Apocalypse is a very good villain. But that's just me.

-D

The AoA's appeal was'nt even that it was more watching how people coped in a situation in which your country was virtually a gulag and who would fight or surrender there freedom to serve the ultimate evil.

The whole "radically different versions of your favorite 616 characters" thing was done to death in the dire "what if AoA" sometime ago.

No the general consensus is that Apocalypse is a really bad villain he has the ultimate potential but no one's done it right. Even in the Age Of Apocalypse he's not the main bad-guy

[Omega Alpha]

No the general consensus is that Apocalypse is a really bad villain he has the ultimate potential but no one's done it right. Even in the Age Of Apocalypse he's not the main bad-guy

Louise Simonson wrote him very well in X-factor, and he was written right in AoA.

And Apocalypse wasn't the main villain in AoA? Are you SURE of that?
:rolleyes:

[Lanowar]

AoA was never about Apocalypse it could have been AoS and Mister Sinister could have been in command and the story would have been no different. It was more about the X-teams surviving the harsh reality of a decimated america. People always cite AoA as the ultimate Apocalypse story but in truth it was never about him. It's like trying to say HoM was a great Magneto story.

[Brian M.]

An Ultimate Universe Alternate Universe story on an Alternate Universe.

Awesome.

[Captain Mobra]

I just hate the idea of a Alternate Alternate Universe.

[Omega Alpha]

AoA was never about Apocalypse it could have been AoS and Mister Sinister could have been in command and the story would have been no different. It was more about the X-teams surviving the harsh reality of a decimated america. People always cite AoA as the ultimate Apocalypse story but in truth it was never about him. It's like trying to say HoM was a great Magneto story.

Nevertheless, he was the main villain and the main menace to the X-men, the Magneto of that reality.

[matt_hatyber]

well i think if they can get a good writer it would be a really good idea:):P

[Altraferne]

The best Apocalypse ever done was in X-Men: Evolution.

He was a real threat, had real power, he had dignity and looked awesome. They should try and adapt that version into the Ultimate universe.

The feel of the story arc was just awesome, a cross between Indiana Jones and Star Gate. Get the X-Men, FF and Ultimates all in their together and call it a crossover.

[bbmakdaddycomics]

The best Apocalypse ever done was in X-Men: Evolution.

He was a real threat, had real power, he had dignity and looked awesome. They should try and adapt that version into the Ultimate universe.

The feel of the story arc was just awesome, a cross between Indiana Jones and Star Gate. Get the X-Men, FF and Ultimates all in their together and call it a crossover.

agreed, but except for add ff and ultimates unless they actually have a important role in it, nick was seen in evolution but not that important, plus i don't think they would have an alternate alternate universe when apocolypse comes they may do what evolution did.

[scottv]

I would read it but I can live without it

[Gargus]

No. The appeal of the AoA was seeing radically different versions of your favorite 616 characters. The point of the Ultimate line is... different versions of your favorite 616 characters. It would be completely redundant right out of the starting gate.

Plus I don't think Apocalypse is a very good villain. But that's just me.

-D

Well you cant honestly read like spiderman and tell me its a different version. I mean osborne is still green goblin, still hates spiderman and so on, he just looks different. Kingpin is still the kingpin. Spiderman is still spiderman. Infact all the marvel ultimate charcters are exactly as 616 for the most part. All the UU charcters are practically the same thing. But we havent seen radically different versions, oh boy colossus is gay.....thats not radically different. And the point of it wasnt to see different versions, it was just a side story where you get to see a world made in apoclypses image.

I can see why you dont like apocalypse, he is kind of hard to write. Like dr strange, he needs special handling to be cool. I still like him myself, or atleast the idea of him.

I think AOA would be cool, no one said it has to be a alternate universe either. I mean hell, isnt the UU supposed to be different even if it isnt really? Maybe he could try to bring it to the UU and like take over some low level country and start spreading out. Or apocalypse really does take over everything and at the end cable or something takes some to the past to kill apocalypse and stop it or whatever, I dont know.

AOA doesnt really mean it has to be exactly like 616 AOA, just because the writers steal everything else doesnt mean they have to here.

I just hate the idea of a Alternate Alternate Universe.

If you read marvel zombies then its to late, youve already done it. the MZ universe was a alternate universe set in the ultimate universe. And considering it has bleed over into the 616 universe from ultimate that makes it even worse.

[Thorlief]

Apo isnt a bad villain, he's just written poorly.
He has high potential. Just focus on his Celestials sidestory instead of his usual ridiculous attempt to kill the X-Men and you have a good story

on topic..I don't know if it'd work, but I'd read it

[The Lucky One]

Well you cant honestly read like spiderman and tell me its a different version. I mean osborne is still green goblin, still hates spiderman and so on, he just looks different. Kingpin is still the kingpin. Spiderman is still spiderman. Infact all the marvel ultimate charcters are exactly as 616 for the most part. All the UU charcters are practically the same thing. But we havent seen radically different versions, oh boy colossus is gay.....thats not radically different. And the point of it wasnt to see different versions, it was just a side story where you get to see a world made in apoclypses image.

I'm not going to debate with you that the Ultimate versions of (most) characters are drastically different from their 616 counterparts because I don't disagree with you- most of them are pretty similar. However, when you consider that the entire point of the Ultimate line was to feature streamlined, new reader-friendly versions of 616 characters not weighted down with years of continuity baggage, the AoA really doesn't fit within that framework. I'm not saying it'll never happen; I just wouldn't count on it anytime soon.

-D

[The Master Meglomaniac]

Agreed. He's a complete joke of a villain.

Besides, having a 5,000 year old mutant armed with the technology of gods trying to cull the weak of the world doesn't exactly fit with the tone of the Ultimate Universe.

That may be true, but why should Ultimate Apocalypse be lame as well? Why not revamp him into a good villain in the UU? I say just use the title AoA to tell a completely different story in the UU.