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drwho

05-02-2007, 09:10 PM

This current storyline really has me impressed. I didnt have a clue who Star Saphire was before reading this but it has turned into an interesting villain. I find the whole interaction between Hal and his ex entertaining. The art in this book is awesome. Cowgirl is still possessed and she and Hal throw down Gives the history of the star saphire and reveals there are more than one. The alien ladies that helped propogate the things show up at the end. My complaint tends to he more to do with the gl mythos than everything. All the major threats seems to branch out from oa and create their own version of the corps. We had the manhunters, the star saphire corps, and now the sinestro corps.Little too much if you ask me. The sinestro corp member in the back up tale looks like some zombie wannabe.

Cayman

05-02-2007, 09:15 PM

I like the story and Acuña's art. It's distinctive and usually attractive.

Some of the dialogue was dreadful though. "Don't write checks your ass can't cash, honey" - da fug?

Raker616

05-03-2007, 12:49 AM

My complaint tends to he more to do with the gl mythos than everything. All the major threats seems to branch out from oa and create their own version of the corps. We had the manhunters, the star saphire corps, and now the sinestro corps.Little too much if you ask me. The sinestro corp member in the back up tale looks like some zombie wannabe.

I think there's a good reason for that because from the GL #21 cover it seems that the Sinestro Corp is gonna involve most of GL's rogues and is gonna spand the GL universe. Bang out issue once again by Geoff and Co. but the highlight is once again is the Sinestro Corps backup story both have been amazing can't wait for the next one.

Sean Whitmore

05-03-2007, 04:17 AM

Some of the dialogue was dreadful though. "Don't write checks your ass can't cash, honey" - da fug?

The hell?

That line doesn't even make sense that way.

Unless Carol is calling her a prostitute.

SEAN

General Grievous

05-03-2007, 04:22 AM

You gotta love the Tales of the sinestro corps backups, next we will get the origin of the snail sniper bedovian!!!!

Green Gardner

05-03-2007, 06:43 AM

The hell?

That line doesn't even make sense that way.

Unless Carol is calling her a prostitute.

SEAN
Which isn't entirely outside the realm of possibility, given her initial reaction to learning her call sign.

Anyway, I may need to read this issue a few more times, because I'm just confused. I've never read it, but didn't the Zamarons supposedly leave this plane for awhile with the Guardians in an old story? So were those DIFFERENT Zamarons than the ones who've apparently been secluded in their creepy crystal caves for the past few billion years? Also, what exactly do they target GLs for? Is that just some cold ass way to have them killed, or is a GL needed in some way to begin the process of entombing a planet?

Sean Walsh

05-03-2007, 10:05 AM

Which isn't entirely outside the realm of possibility, given her initial reaction to learning her call sign.

Anyway, I may need to read this issue a few more times, because I'm just confused. I've never read it, but didn't the Zamarons supposedly leave this plane for awhile with the Guardians in an old story? So were those DIFFERENT Zamarons than the ones who've apparently been secluded in their creepy crystal caves for the past few billion years? Also, what exactly do they target GLs for? Is that just some cold ass way to have them killed, or is a GL needed in some way to begin the process of entombing a planet?

I'll have to reread the issue, but didn't the lil' blue guys kinda spur the Zamarons in favor of being Guardians? That would explain why they're targetting the GLs - which are the result of the Guardians' true desires.

Plus, this is post-Infinite Crisis DCU - so nothing's really the same anymore. Continuity that happened in the past..........doesn't have to be quite the same nowadays.

CaptainCanada

05-03-2007, 11:38 AM

Between all the backstory and the backup story taking up space, not much happens in the present, but this issue is a lot more interesting than the previous one.

Speaking of the backup, Johns and Gibbons deliver the Evil Jungle Book (or Evil Tarzan, slightly adjusted) story of Karu-Sil, a girl from a planet of cannibals who was "raised" by a trio of raptor-like things. A Green Lantern kills her "pack", so that's presumably why she hates the Corps so much (and uses her power ring to generate three raptor-duplicates).

As with the last issue, Gibbons' backup art is far superior to Acuna's main story: Acuna's art has appealing energy, but it's washed out and the faces have next to no expression or character.

Infra-Man

05-03-2007, 12:12 PM

I like the story and Acuña's art. It's distinctive and usually attractive.

Some of the dialogue was dreadful though. "Don't write checks your ass can't cash, honey" - da fug?

Yeah, that line made me cringe. That was a big stinkburger in an otherwise fun issue.

Sean Walsh

05-03-2007, 12:41 PM

Acuna's art has appealing energy, but it's washed out and the faces have next to no expression or character.

His art on UNCLE SAM AND THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS looked a lot better. Here, it seems a little washy and not as detailed. It's good, but it could probably be better; I figure he's somewhat rushing to fulfill this arc while Reis catches up.

David Atkins

05-03-2007, 12:41 PM

I like the story and Acuña's art. It's distinctive and usually attractive.

Some of the dialogue was dreadful though. "Don't write checks your ass can't cash, honey" - da fug?

To me, that line makes perfect sense when it preceeds an extreme ass kicking. I actually know people who talk that way.

And no, I'm not one of them.

Normally. :o

Deadpooligan

05-03-2007, 02:37 PM

Still not a huge fan of Acuna's art. He's really more of a great cover artist IMO.

The only redeeming part of this book for me was backup Sinestro Corps. The best part?

"She saw something she'd never seen before... a boy."
*Boy parts her hair, shows lipless face, hits him with the bowl, proceeds to eat him.*

^I couldn't help but laugh maniacally at that. It's so twisted.

Hmm. So this makes origin profiles for... Amon Sur (GL#17), Despotellis (GL#18 backup), Karu-Sil (GL#19 backup), with Bedovian up next, and Sinestro and the S. Corps itself in the upcoming special.

But no space for for Arkillo (and the bearer of the Book of Parallax too?). That's weird...

Will.S

05-03-2007, 04:54 PM

I enjoyed the second part of this story more due to the origins of the Star Sapphire and the Zamarons but the actual story is moving slower than I'd like it to. The art was gorgeous especially with the bright colors but I don't know, the action could be better, especially Hal's constructs which are kind of lame. I guess it's because of the devoted space to the backup tales of the Sinestro Corps (or maybe not) but it should be over within the next issue hopefully.

My big question is if Cowgirl stays stuck with the Sapphire but I'm guessing that it'll move onto another female after Hal takes it off of her. It would be interesting if she actually stayed SS too but it would seem to be a waste to develop a new love interest for Hal to only have her turn into a villain but you never really know these days.

What's crazy is that the upcoming threats to the GLC is now a triple threat with the Zamarons, the Sinestro Corps and Cyborg Superman and his Manhunters. I expect alot of GLC fodder coming but I hope they don't kill off the current GLC members. Count me in on also enjoying the back-up tale, it's short but effective at showing why Karu-Sil was picked and it's indeed a messed up way to get there.

PastePotPete

05-03-2007, 05:11 PM

Sorry, but Acuna doesn't belong on this book. I think he was a poor choice for a fill-in. Green Lantern is classic superheroics and Acuna's style doesn't really fit. I look his art and I think of those posters that depict Parisian streets in the 1920s or I see images of horses riding along the beach at sunset. It's all muted and soft. It doesn't depict action well.

Give this guy a Vertigo book or something, but don't put him on Green Lantern. Bad decision putting him on superhero books.

CMBMOOL

05-03-2007, 05:56 PM

Well, what I can't believe is that the Star sapphire color illustrates Love, so with Green as Will and Yellow as fear, what's next.....

Purple as envy or Red as anger. :p

Will.S

05-03-2007, 06:06 PM

Well, what I can't believe is that the Star sapphire color illustrates Love, so with Green as Will and Yellow as fear, what's next.....

Purple as envy or Red as anger. :p
Makes sense, never thought about the color represenation but it works.

Taskmaster

05-03-2007, 06:15 PM

Loved this issue, well not so much the art in the main story, but the story itself and the back up rocked! Is it just me or does the female who has the evil version of the book of Oa look like the darkness weilding member of the Legion of Super heroes?

Carter Hall

05-03-2007, 08:35 PM

This series is easily the best thing being put out by DC right now. I've loved this book since they restarted it. Johns and Pacheco/Van Sciver/Reis have been a dynamite team. I've loved basically everything about this book and it is in no danger of being dropped from my pull list.

As for this issue, I loved the Sinestro Corps backup story (as well as all the Sinestro Corps stuff we've seen up to this point), and the overall story was great, too- Hal's dialogue with Carol, and the Zamorans rebelling against the Guardians and taking the color pink to represent love was very intriguing. I'm not at all a fan of Acuna's art, though, nor was I of Bianchi's when he was filling in for Van Sciver in issue 6. That being said, it's still a great read.

I hope after this run Geoff Johns is looked upon as one of the greatest Green Lantern writers ever, because he has done a TON for this mythos that has respected what came before him and that plenty of subsequent writers can use after him.

Bored at 3:00AM

05-04-2007, 04:49 AM

I like the tweaks that Johns is making to the Oans here. As much as I liked Englehart's brilliant tweaking of the Zamarons as the long lost female counterparts of the Guardians, it never made any sense to me that they'd look like caucasian humans with Roman Armor. The nose-less blue warrior women looks far more alien and creepy--as does the new motivation and methodology the Zarmarons' Star Sapphire's have.

As soon as Johns introduced his whole emotional color spectrum idea in GL:Rebirth, I figured this was coming with the Zamarons, but I like the angle he's come up with and how it works with the whole "Fear of Love" theme that Johns has been playing around with using Hal. It fits his character perfectly and makes Star Sapphire an even more appropriate archnemesis for him.

I don't mind expanding the Star Sapphire into yet another Corps-like army. The idea that the various Oan immortal tribes create their armies from mortal servants has been part of their shtick for decades now. Having only one Star Sapphire always struck me as a wasted oportunity.

I am loving Acuna's art. I completely disagree that his art isn't appropriate for this comic. I think his color choices and dream-like visual style work perfectly for the story Johns is telling.

Also loved Kari-Sul. The teeth were a nice touch.

Sean Walsh

05-04-2007, 07:02 AM

Still not a huge fan of Acuna's art. He's really more of a great cover artist IMO.

He's a great cover artist, but seeing his interior work.........is still pretty bewildering.

When he was announced as UNCLE SAM's artist, I figured it would be more like pencil art. So when I saw basically his cover art as interior art, I was pretty shocked and impressed that he didn't just go with pencil art.

His art in this arc seems pretty appropriate too. Love, after all, is this weird misty thing (for me at least)...........so seeing someone paint a story about "fear of love" and such seems more appropriate than the usual line art. Looks more "special" this way. I dunno, maybe I'm just totally a woman now or something... :p

DDM

05-04-2007, 07:37 AM

I'm impressed how Johns expanded upon the Zamorans' Star Saphhire; it makes sense they too have a corps to match the Green Lantern Corps & now, Sinestro's Fear Corps. The origin is not what I expected making it all the better read.

There's a big war coming ahead between the anti-matter Sinestro Corps, the Green Lanterns, & Star Sapphire Corps. This book gets better with every issue.

I would like to see Carol Ferris become a Green Lantern though, although she was taken by the Zamorans.

10/10

Mr. Kent

05-04-2007, 08:28 AM

Carol as a GL would be something to see :)

I've been expecting them to make Star Sapphires into a Corps. for a while, and I'm glad that when they finally did it it seemed to make sense in the overall plot.

And I dunno--I like Acuna's art. Green Lantern is a very brightly-colored book, which I think is appropriate due to the use of the emotional spectrum.

Geek Side-note: This is my 52nd Post! Am I going to divide into 52 Alternate Kents?

Cayman

05-04-2007, 08:56 AM

mgs

05-04-2007, 08:50 PM

I like the story and Acuña's art. It's distinctive and usually attractive.

Some of the dialogue was dreadful though. "Don't write checks your ass can't cash, honey" - da fug?

yup. I agree. I really like the Sinestro Tales in the back, as they get into stories that are very interesting to figure out if the characters are going to be part of the whole upcoming war. I have to say, I was getting a religious vibe from the part where the Saphire peeps were talking with the OA peeps, but it all seemed to have too much of a religious vibe to it for me to see the story as is instead of maybe a fable of a religious ideology.

DMike

05-06-2007, 07:05 PM

Now if only there were still some Darkstars left to represent the Controllers all the Oan factions would be represented. I guess they could since Donna and John are still alive and Manhunter is technically using a Darkstar suit in her costume, but that's not much to work with.

Green Gardner

05-07-2007, 06:31 AM

Am I the only one who has some reservations about this? The idea of all these GL caliber armies popping up, I mean. Don't get me wrong, I imagine it will be a lot of fun in the short term; epic war plots always are, so long as the good guys come out on top in the end. But unless the Green Lantern Corps eventually comes out as the clearly dominant faction, won't they be a little busy with the Zamarons and Sinestro Corps at their throats to fulfill their traditional role as interstellar policemen?

Maybe some of you look forward to that. I personally find the idea of the Corps supremely cool, and think it'd be a shame for that kind of force for good in the DCU to fade out or be largely negated so soon after finally returning, but I'll admit that some of the really epic crises the company has come out with were probably rendered much less of a hassle to create without the Corps there to put a stop to it. My feeling is just that if the Lanterns can't, for the most part, make safeguarding their individual sectors from all manner of threats their priority, what are they other than muscle for the Guardians? Certainly, I as the reader don't see that working as their defining characteristic. Heck, many of the GLs we regularly read about don't necessarily even LIKE the Guardians that much. They're not always nice guys.

Maybe I'm over-reacting, and maybe that's a good thing, so that I can properly feel the tension these stories should create. But I doubt the Sinestro Corps or the Star Sapphires are just going to disappear any time soon, and it seems to me that their presence will have to mean a pretty notable shift in the status quo. I sort of like the status quo.

Indefatigable

05-07-2007, 09:52 PM

My only qualm is that I want to see Reis draw blond Star Sapphire.

Cayman

05-08-2007, 08:35 AM

My only qualm is that I want to see Reis draw blond Star Sapphire.

Me too, I've come to be a real fan of his art.

Mr. Kent

05-08-2007, 08:57 AM

I personally find the idea of the Corps supremely cool, and think it'd be a shame for that kind of force for good in the DCU to fade out or be largely negated so soon after finally returning

I don't think the rise of other corps will diminish the GL Corps in any way (maybe numbers, if lots of GLs bite the dust, which I wouldn't like)--in fact, I think the coming of Sinestro and Sapphire corps would make the role of the Lanterns even more important. The GLs now know there are absolutely other armies patrolling space, and the forces of good are fighting an unevenly pitched battle. For the GL Corps to fight in a time of galactic war makes them even more heroic and places more importance on their power, I believe.

Jack

05-08-2007, 09:05 AM

Well, what I can't believe is that the Star sapphire color illustrates Love, so with Green as Will and Yellow as fear, what's next.....

Purple as envy or Red as anger. :p
Blue, of course. I'm even more sure now that the Blue Beetle scarab is a Power Ring equivalent on the blue part of the emotional spectrum than I was when I first came up with the theory a year ago.

The Reach have been introduced now, and we know that they empower one Blue Beetle per planet, and that the scarab is alien technology that bonds with a person. Add that to how they are hostile towards Green Lanterns and the evidence is seriously piling up. All we need to know now is what emotion blue represents. Greed is a possibility, given what the Reach are all about.